Post ARCgMLlhtEmefLXVxI by DeliaChristina@sfba.social
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 (DIR) Post #ARCgMKz8nnw4EiojFw by DeliaChristina@sfba.social
       2023-01-01T10:13:40Z
       
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       There's a conversation happening on tik tok about what women would do during a social apocalypse and I find it *fascinating* that men don't realize women have already run this scenario and we have our plan.(And no. Our plan does NOT entail exchanging sex for protection.)Without the parameters of society, BIPOC and women know *exactly* who the threat is and it isn't zombies.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMLXsidizyT4TPE by empire@fosstodon.org
       2023-01-01T10:21:27Z
       
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       @DeliaChristina I tend to assume most people like myself have run this scenario, and looked up the degrading returns on photovoltaics in preference of hydroelectric with regard to long term returns... even if maintaining the latter is harder, it's at least possible.I'm not concerned about zombies, or commies, it's guys with red hats who think they're entitled. On that, the apocalypse just exacerbates it.But solar is good in the short term... anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMLlhtEmefLXVxI by DeliaChristina@sfba.social
       2023-01-01T15:32:12Z
       
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       It is SO interesting what happened to this thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMM2MtI6xV1KovQ by datenwolf@chaos.social
       2023-01-01T10:27:52Z
       
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       @empire @DeliaChristina *blink*, *blink* … I don't think, OP was referring to the technological challenges… which in some way exactly makes an example of her point.Anyway, with respect to degradation of photovoltaics, I think you should update your knowledge. There's been a couple of long term experiments going on, some for 40 years, and we now have hard data. It's an asymptotic process (not linear!), bottoming out at about 70% of original peak power output, and then stays there.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMMRtMOWmmBHCi0 by empire@fosstodon.org
       2023-01-01T10:32:30Z
       
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       @datenwolf @DeliaChristina I'm aware, and I agree that one of us missed the point.I've followed solar performance and I still think perovskite will break through, but even at peaks of 23% and the effects of.. well everything silicon photovoltaics degrade from, they aren't really repairable without very expensive and rare equipment.A turbine just needs new windings once in a while...
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMN1hDHASZE1nW4 by datenwolf@chaos.social
       2023-01-01T11:02:24Z
       
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       @empire @DeliaChristina With a turbine you then better make sure, that all of the control systems are purely electromechanical, with no semiconductors technology present in there whatsoever, because anything more complex than a diode is going a lot harder to make/replace than a PV cell.Either way, it's still missing the objective. All this "self sustenance" theory crafting is moot. The planning should be focused on how to implement societal stopgaps preventing large scale collapse.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMNQ9kKjXn5TKds by datenwolf@chaos.social
       2023-01-01T11:08:20Z
       
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       @empire @DeliaChristina if you really care about surviving "social collapse", you should invest in strengthening local communities. Which means: Revitalizing so called "3rd places", maintaining local libraries (also digital and acting as ISP), cafes, bars, restaurants, independent small businesses (also trades, like metal working, electricians, HVAC, etc.), with transportation being focused on walkability and bikes.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMNuduz7VJdjgA4 by zleap@qoto.org
       2023-01-01T15:40:38Z
       
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       @datenwolf @empire @DeliaChristina Fully agree.  Linraries are a grate place to meet with friends, give / receive advice, read, study, catch up with the news, and learn new skills, all under one roof they are a social asset.I run a code club and STEM group at my local library, people don't seem to appreciate what they have locally until it is gone.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgMRXORMtoYgtATg by datenwolf@chaos.social
       2023-01-01T11:13:19Z
       
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       @empire @DeliaChristina w.r.t. repairability of PV, those are a lot more "accessible" than ICs. You've got to be able to make glass, refine copper, aluminium and silicon, and maybe draw single crystal boules (all of which can be done on a small scale).The important part is having everything that goes into these things properly documented and summarized, and people trained.This is where "trades" enter the picture, and what "tradition" actually means.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARCgYhZ6fxqfk5XGfA by HSTG@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-01T15:42:37Z
       
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       @DeliaChristina You see this threat every time you look in the mirror. FYI you are the zombie!
       
 (DIR) Post #ARChsMWKjGyaDeB2lE by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
       2023-01-01T15:57:40.700439Z
       
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       @DeliaChristina