Post AR7qV3B0PZ1bMTMPQm by lpil@lor.sh
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(DIR) Post #AR670jKwv2f3gbnL7o by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-28T19:04:25Z
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@lpil btw, I noticed that you're on the mastodon instance of linux.org.ru. Can you, in a couple of words, explain the choice?They're friends[1] with the @drq@mastodon.ml guy who uses nationalist slurs against Ukrainians (while declaring that he's "against the war", whatever that means).In general, linux.org.ru is known for having a lot of right-leaning #russians on it.They're also running and hosting @rf bot, the profile of which I've dissected in another toot of mine[2].When I called them out for using slurs and anti-Ukraine sentiment while declaring the "pacifist" values (as if you can be pacifist in the face of nazi germany or putin's russia), they really have revealed their true colours. I have a set of screenshots where #russians are barking at me for calling out the slurs and pro-soviet-alignment / usage of soviet symbols in their community.I strongly suggest people to defederate mastodon.ml, and after looking at the "devil's advocate" in the profile of lor.sh's admin @dump_stack, I wouldn't be surprised if I'll have to defederate it as well (and strongly suggest fellow Western instance admins to follow suite). [1]: https://v.lor.sh/w/oG6Fqe3JJdD5xaCmYNSdUx[2]: https://social.doma.dev/@jonn/109582283625353670
(DIR) Post #AR670jvohy9TWx2mae by dump_stack@lor.sh
2022-12-29T11:36:18Z
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@jonn, I don't even have an account on linux.org.ru, lol. So, nothing than an old historical connection.We also are not friends with drq, neither we run rf bot.We've never talked so you cannot have any such screenshots of me using any slurs towards you.And even the screenshot with nazi on mastodon.ml shows an account that doesn't exist and has joined date 1932. Means the screenshot is fake.So, the purpose of your message is unclear to me.@lpil
(DIR) Post #AR67cSGYptwZkKjMWG by lpil@hachyderm.io
2022-12-29T11:42:58Z
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@dump_stack @jonn thanks for clearing that up 💜
(DIR) Post #AR6iWqsq5pAyf7pJ44 by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-29T18:36:41Z
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@dump_stack I don't think you have read anything wrote. I'm just explaining how your bot looks for non-russans. Sorry if the analogy (or my text) got lost on you. Also, your peer tube instance promotes @drq, who is using slurs towards Ukrainians.People should support Ukraine, give Ukrainians platform. Mastodon.ml deplatforms them.
(DIR) Post #AR7p5SOLwHhE58psiu by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T01:06:09Z
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@dump_stack *but*, I"m very-very happy that you personally aren't affiliated with LOR. And I'm very-very happy if you give a platform to those who raise the awareness of the criminal war.And I'm even more happy that you're not affiliated with mastodon.ml, but you have got to do something with @skobkin and your #peertube front page, it is in a very bad taste.I'm not going to lie, I was *excited* to see LOR-outcasts or post-LOR community do better than LOR itself, but when I opened your peertube, which your account and kofi pages advertise, I got to the assumptions I got.
(DIR) Post #AR7p5Sy9nAKtsBaTWy by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T07:24:52Z
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@jonnAre you suggesting @dump_stack to do another collab with me?
(DIR) Post #AR7qV1v15WdnSas7s0 by lpil@lor.sh
2022-12-28T19:10:32Z
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@jonn I'm using it because it's a technically well run instance with a strong code of conduct, a clean local feed, and a short name.I don't know anything about linux.org.ru. Not sure I understand what the video there is showing, it doesn't feature the lor.sh admin and wasn't uploaded by them either?
(DIR) Post #AR7qV2ZQfGy1TvmOrQ by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-28T19:14:44Z
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@lpil sorry, I thought that it features a lor admin. I'm surprised that they *have* a CoC to be honest! Linux.org.ru is very toxic (I read Russian and was hanging out in ru-net a lot until 2014 and a bit until Feb 24th).It does seem very-very shady. I think I'll just wait for @dump_stack to explain how are they related to *the* LOR and why they promote videos with rushists on their peertube. If I were you, I'd brace for disappointment.
(DIR) Post #AR7qV3B0PZ1bMTMPQm by lpil@lor.sh
2022-12-28T19:15:53Z
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@jonn I'm judging only by the description of the video, I could be wrong.I'm planning to move over to my own instance of gotosocial at some point, so no big deal if I have to move :)
(DIR) Post #AR7qV3bwnOZki1xvQO by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-28T19:23:58Z
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@lpil sorry to disappoint :(During the war there is no grey area. If one participates in "fun projects" with rushists, one is rushist. If one is getting government grants in putin's russia, one is putinist.There are only two exception — sabotage and intelligence work.
(DIR) Post #AR7qV49GnVEMNNYXMe by lpil@lor.sh
2022-12-28T23:27:34Z
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@jonn well that’s annoying. Thanks for notifying me
(DIR) Post #AR7qV4X1NCEHZ2fVNw by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T07:40:42Z
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@lpil @jonnThe "fun" fact is that author of this post either doesn't understand or knowingly trying to twist the facts.I'm not going to argue with that nonsense, but I'd suggest you to check the facts yourself if it's relevant to you at all.Sorry for bothering.
(DIR) Post #AR7sTrtF5YW1yYcFTE by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:02:54Z
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@skobkin @lpil skobkin, you are rushist and a mod on lor.sh. You are a rushist because you advertise projects of @drq, who is an pretend-liberal, an enemy of Ukraine and an enemy of the West.There is no grey area during the war. If you're friends with rushist, you are a rushist.
(DIR) Post #AR7sza2Qzq1zsO2LkO by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:08:38Z
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@skobkin @dump_stack I hooe that dump-stack didn't do any collabs with you. I hope that your channel won't be advertised at v.lor.sh because dump-stack is raising money for it.The facts are: mastodon.ml is anti-Ukrainian despite their advertised values, you are affiliated with a rushist guy and aren't ashamed of it, thus you are a rushist too and the enemy of West. You are, at the moment, a lot.sh official and lor.sh is fundraising to, among other things promote your channel.
(DIR) Post #AR7t1nT62DlG6kZ4pE by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T08:09:03Z
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@jonn @lpil @drq > You are a rushist> because you advertise projects of @drq> who is an pretend-liberal, an enemy of Ukraine and an enemy of the West
(DIR) Post #AR7tHqrHCNJZFsWw9g by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:11:56Z
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@skobkin @lpil @drq there is no grey area when it comes to war. Take off the video, apologise and declare your support for Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #AR7tqMTAAxZp8nhtg0 by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T08:18:12Z
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@jonn @lpil @drq I'm not planning to take off that video because I don't see any problem with it.I'm not planning to apologize because there is nothing to apologize for.Regarding the support of the Ukraine, if you're trying to look like you know things, you should also know that supporting the Ukraine is a criminal offence in Russia.
(DIR) Post #AR7ttXD0hei5JkfHLk by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:13:53Z
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@skobkin @lpil @drq while we're at it, stop using @rf@masodon.ml bot.https://lor.sh/@skobkin/109302922919306390
(DIR) Post #AR7ttXcXAl7uaubf8K by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T08:18:46Z
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@jonn @lpil @drq Why should I do that?
(DIR) Post #AR7wUCJpXBoj9RSsPg by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:47:46Z
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@skobkin @lpil @drq because it's immoral, offensive to those who suffered from the soviet union and russia. Your logo is like having symbolics of Weimar Republic mashed together with a flag of Nazi Germany.Your logo is actually illegal in many European countries.The "criminal offense" excuse is literally what will NOT pass once #russians will be prosecuted after the defeat of #russia. Helping Jews was also illegal, so was poles.You are a hypocrite.
(DIR) Post #AR7wjWXqcHVGE1KU9g by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T08:50:34Z
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@jonn @lpil @drq You're trolling too hard, man.
(DIR) Post #AR7yr3hjvbyT0Fg2Gu by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:54:59Z
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@skobkin @lpil @drq if you think that we only won't forget simonyan and vetcherny mudozvon, think twice.If you read my posts, you will see good and relevant historical surveys by people who have dedicated their lives to study of totalitarian regimes.Finally, I work regularly with actual #russians who actively help Ukraine, who coordinate aid.You don't have to advertise it.
(DIR) Post #AR7yr4NvOlib75Pj1c by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T08:59:32Z
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@skobkin @lpil @drq and finally, your logic is absolutely flawed.Even if you're too scared to do the right thing (even without advertising it), you don't have to do the •wrong• thing and promote a person who is using slurs against Ukrainians. You don't have to smear the symbols of genocide (hammer and sickle and white blue red flag) all over your bloody feed.If it's ok with you, you probably should not moderate any West-facing society.
(DIR) Post #AR7yr4n5tBqqN9BpFw by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-12-30T09:14:20Z
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@jonn @lpil @drq Stop trolling, or learn something about irony.If you don't understand why @rf is comprised of clichés, then you shouldn't try to teach other people what to do.Sorry. This is the last time I'm replying to you unless you stop baselessly accusing random people.
(DIR) Post #AR80H8caMzgLjgGWum by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T09:30:14Z
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@skobkin stop spewing nonsense. To me, a Latvian, кто говорит по-русски. Хочешь помериться орфографией? Your bloody bot looks exactly like this: https://social.doma.dev/@jonn/109582283625353670Mastodon.ml *silences* Urkainians. @drq uses russian nationalist slurs.*You* are affiliated with mastodon.ml becuase you are affiliated with @drq. You are using the bot.Вы, русские, не можете даже на миллиметр представить себе как ваша империалистическая хуйня заставляет себя чувсоввать ваших соседей. If you can't, stay the fuck in your russia and enjoy being scared to help Urkaine and Ukrainians. Хотя, как я тебе уже сказал, у меня есть куча знакомых и друзей, которые не ссут в компот, а делают это так же как и я, каждый день. So yes, stay in your bloody ru-net, but don't try bring your imperialism to the West. Do you understand? Can you try to understand?Я уже молчу о вашей узурпации русскоязычности. Какого, спрашивается, хуя, вы меня вписали в описание вашего бота? Literally my first interaction with totting in Russian was your fucking bot popping up in my feed, tagging me, disrespecting #nobot. It was before full-scale invasion, but already cringe.If you don't understand these things, if you don't understand why using slurs against people of smaller countries is inappropriate, if you don't understand that *genocide is not a joke*, you can fuck yourself.And trust me, me and my people are keeping track on people like you. We track russian leaks and mine a ton of data from bigger fish. The fact that we defederate you doesn't mean that you won't have a hard time when you're gonna be fleeing another #RussianCivilWorld.The fact that I defederate your servers doesn't mean that you're off the hook.Slava Ukriani, death to occupiers!
(DIR) Post #AR80KzPOZ48mJyvs2K by jonn@social.doma.dev
2022-12-30T09:30:57Z
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@skobkin stop spewing nonsense. To me, a Latvian, кто говорит по-русски (хочешь помериться орфографией) your bloody bot looks exactly like this: https://social.doma.dev/@jonn/109582283625353670Mastodon.ml *silences* Urkainians. @drq uses russian nationalist slurs.*You* are affiliated with mastodon.ml becuase you are affiliated with @drq. You are using the bot.Вы, русские, не можете даже на миллиметр представить себе как ваша империалистическая хуйня заставляет себя чувсоввать ваших соседей. If you can't, stay the fuck in your russia and enjoy being scared to help Urkaine and Ukrainians. Хотя, как я тебе уже сказал, у меня есть куча знакомых и друзей, которые не ссут в компот, а делают это так же как и я, каждый день. So yes, stay in your bloody ru-net, but don't try bring your imperialism to the West. Do you understand? Can you try to understand?Я уже молчу о вашей узурпации русскоязычности. Какого, спрашивается, хуя, вы меня вписали в описание вашего бота? Literally my first interaction with totting in Russian was your fucking bot popping up in my feed, tagging me, disrespecting #nobot. It was before full-scale invasion, but already cringe.If you don't understand these things, if you don't understand why using slurs against people of smaller countries is inappropriate, if you don't understand that *genocide is not a joke*, you can fuck yourself.And trust me, me and my people are keeping track on people like you. We track russian leaks and mine a ton of data from bigger fish. The fact that we defederate you doesn't mean that you won't have a hard time when you're gonna be fleeing another #RussianCivilWorld.The fact that I defederate your servers doesn't mean that you're off the hook.Slava Ukriani, death to occupiers!
(DIR) Post #AR87hCYb3ix99Nm6oy by pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb
2022-12-30T10:53:20.509908Z
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@jonn @skobkin @lpil @drq