Post AR4wtIrjkLGerPzUhM by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
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(DIR) Post #AR3Tatg3Z9XxhORFc8 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T05:05:11Z
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@tjgillis I can't chose the correct option because there is no correct option.
(DIR) Post #AR3WWExrIFBG8OEimW by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T05:37:59Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit not with that attitude. Read theory. Practice mutual aid. Encourage community. And stop voting for anyone that would suppress the rights of people for being themselves. Since I believe you're American that would be republicans. Just don't.
(DIR) Post #AR4So74j9tCqDifyoS by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T16:31:03Z
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@tjgillis That's my point.Both US parties are doing that in different ways...One just covers it up better.There's no correct way to vote.As for the people part, well that I'm basically already doing....
(DIR) Post #AR4VUZyCJpXZuG0036 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T17:01:08Z
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@tjgillis Correction:They both just do a great job at convincing the people on their side that only the other side is the one doing the right taking away.
(DIR) Post #AR4VZ3YyEaXmqWKmK8 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T17:01:36Z
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@tjgillis Correction:They both just do a great job at convincing the people on their side that only the other side is the one doing the rights suppressing.
(DIR) Post #AR4Za9YFr2WfWcmHNA by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T17:12:55Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.onlineb oh let's both sides this issue. One wants trans and gay people to vanish by whatever means, the other wants to limit access to automatic weapons.Both want to lock kids in cages and bomb brown people. Seems like a wash eh? Better yet you could vote for "radical" progressive movement that wants to kill less people. It's wild that people consider the life and death of national politics to be important.
(DIR) Post #AR4dSAGNixG7ETrd0y by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T18:02:46Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit oh let's both sides this issue. One wants trans and gay people to vanish by whatever means, the other wants to limit access to automatic weapons.Both want to lock kids in cages and bomb brown people. Seems like a wash eh? Better yet you could vote for "radical" progressive movement that wants to kill less people. It's wild that people consider the life and death of national politics to be important.
(DIR) Post #AR4tUQweGsr2odjoEC by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T21:30:02Z
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@tjgillis No, I'm mostly trying to say that people care too much about it in their personal lives. (Sorry about the tangent, I have reasons, but it would take too long and I don't want to continue a petty argument about nothing)The most people who aren't involved in the stuff for a job should care is who to vote for every election cycle.In any other part of the year you can basically do nothing unless you're a lawyer etc.Being an "activist" by trying to convince other people of one's politics (I don't care what side) is really bad, and people who do that only achieve greater political division and hostility in the world.It shouldn't be a major part of one's personality either, that ends up destroying relationships with the people around you, and that matters almost infinitely more than politics...
(DIR) Post #AR4uE5hda5ygFtUIN6 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T21:38:18Z
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@tjgillis Tell me how you've fixed anything with anything political you've done, be it your vote or anything else.Explain in detail. Go on.Has it ever actually IMPROVED your relationship with somebody?I've never met a good person I want to be around who holds a strong political opinion and forces it upon everybody, have you?Doing that only makes things worse for everyone.And because everyone does it, one's enviornment becomes INCREDIBLY toxic.How do I know this?Twitter
(DIR) Post #AR4uaKfAdkNl1ZwITo by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T21:42:19Z
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@tjgillis Side note:Go and re-read my original post that started this conversion: https://linuxrocks.online/@Linux_in_a_Bit/109588597496965138How did we end up here, fighting over politics, destroying our passing relation?Wouldn't it be nicer if we didn't?This is exactly my point.
(DIR) Post #AR4ucNmK1oZ1GXGIl6 by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T21:41:50Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit what a fucking wild stance. Not only have you demonstrated you know nothing about politics but also reek of privilege. Good luck kid hiding from reality a little longer kiddo.
(DIR) Post #AR4urZLHJgeRTRr0O8 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T21:45:25Z
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@tjgillis Explain why it's true, why anything other than your vote fixes problems you say only votes can fix.Tell me.
(DIR) Post #AR4uxSnwXJSOw34YF6 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T21:46:29Z
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@tjgillis Tell me how being an asshole to people for the sake of tickets in a machine is better than being a good person.
(DIR) Post #AR4v0rSzIf4EI9tINE by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2022-12-28T21:47:10Z
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@tjgillis @Linux_in_a_Bit In my experience, both sides *are* bad though. One side hates minorities, women, and freedom to be gay. The other side hates cishet white men and freedom of speech.
(DIR) Post #AR4wtIrjkLGerPzUhM by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:08:10Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit the issue is in your original post is your stance promotes harmful rhetoric which you are seemingly unaware of.If being called out for posting a stupid opinion upsets you perhaps refrain or be open up thinking about the world critically
(DIR) Post #AR4wxQlYJcQoWN4AbI by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:08:57Z
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@Hyolobrika @Linux_in_a_Bit haha . Americans are fucking wild.
(DIR) Post #AR4xCcETxthMQaq3pw by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:11:31Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit if your take away from this conversation is voting is all that matters, you completely and totally missed the point.
(DIR) Post #AR4xU52Y72eWhCaK5w by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:14:50Z
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@tjgillis WHY is it harmful?If you just came it and said that it would've prevented this whole thing.
(DIR) Post #AR4xcMc4f0svVw9RBo by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:16:16Z
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@tjgillis Explain why.Why can't I get a straight answer?
(DIR) Post #AR4yPPU4m6OcbknUQ4 by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:25:11Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit sure. I volunteer at my local elementary school teaching kids to code. I offer free tech support to my community.COVID stopoed my volunteering with a local group teaching tech to those going for their GED. It seems you need to go out and touch grass kid. Maybe pick up a history book. Pay attention to current events.
(DIR) Post #AR4yZ8JdSfKwFzYAMa by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:26:55Z
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@tjgillis And that's not political.You're an amazing person.But had fighting about politics ever helped anyone?That's my question.
(DIR) Post #AR4ymaNiQO9H49sCVk by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:29:22Z
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@tjgillis I read history books. I know where this kind of disagreement ends up. Not helping anyone or doing anything.Wars still happen.Injustice still exists.Fighting doesn't help.It never has.Oh, and I don't touch grass because it's snowing and it's all dead.
(DIR) Post #AR4zFckIiHk8nSHecK by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:34:34Z
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@Linux_in_a_BitLiterally my first reply explains how it's harmful. If you're still unable to grasp this I'll try again. Normalizing violence against minitorty groups is harmful. Saying both sides are equal in this regard is harmful as one publicly promotes and fervently is trying to surpress minority groups.
(DIR) Post #AR4zcbuA0RL8qgr9KC by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:38:48Z
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@tjgillis And I never said they're equal, I said there's nuances, and just because someone supports a group doesn't mean they believe everything the group believes.Also there is a line and you have to draw that somewhere. That's the nuanced part where you have to look at that individual person among other things.It's not just beliefs, but actions, words, and intent.That's the nuance.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discernment
(DIR) Post #AR4zgFwnaLjfuJpRoW by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:39:04Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit you know nothing of my motives you silly goose. This is mutual aid, a keystone of leftist theory. This is community outreach, showing that we the proletariats can organize and support each other when the systems in place either don't or can't provide for our needs.
(DIR) Post #AR4ziJv7miS4oC1uyW by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:39:27Z
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@tjgillis look at my reply again.I worded it badly.Does it make more sense now.
(DIR) Post #AR4ztKaVdwmw42dbAO by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:40:53Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit sure. Have you never heard of harm reduction?
(DIR) Post #AR506N8pScL9kSuPq4 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:44:08Z
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@tjgillis Another thing I like to tell people is to stop making things political.Community outreach is not political.People should know that's a good thing to do in general.Because you're motivated by politics doesn't mean it's political.Politics arent beliefs.Saying "I support ___" is only a political statement because we let it become one.Now community outreach is political the extremists on three other side refuse to do it BECAUSE of the politics.Another example if it making things worse.
(DIR) Post #AR509mThiRPXCJIZAe by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:44:37Z
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@tjgillis Another thing I like to tell people is to stop making things political.Community outreach is not political.People should know that's a good thing to do in general.Because you're motivated by politics doesn't mean it's political.Politics arent beliefs.Saying "I support ___" is only a political statement because we let it become one.Now community outreach is political the extremists on the other side refuse to do it BECAUSE of the politics.Another example if it making things worse.
(DIR) Post #AR50GTLZFAUJtFgQbY by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:45:54Z
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@tjgillis And why does disagreement help with that?
(DIR) Post #AR50O11CS6H0Lbklpg by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:47:18Z
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@tjgillis All sides still need to do good things to have any need to exist.Pointing to specific examples doesn't change that.There is always also good in the world.A vote doesn't change that either.
(DIR) Post #AR50R0mlm3FSUiQsAC by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:47:32Z
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@tjgillis All sides still need to do good things to have any need to exist.Pointing to specific examples doesn't change that.There is always also good in the world.A fight doesn't change that either.
(DIR) Post #AR50X5NHcpruSqPLHM by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T22:48:57Z
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@tjgillis And I garuntee you that doesn't come about because of a fight like this one
(DIR) Post #AR50nMxg0NVfduC9aa by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:51:51Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit and I'm saying there is no nuance here. A good person with bad politics (like yourself) should be corrected.Once you know better you can do better. Our goal as a collective should be to reduce suffering. The majority of right wing politics
(DIR) Post #AR50yd9W9Dil2l6Sx6 by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T22:53:49Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit and I'm saying there is no nuance here. A good person with bad politics (like yourself) should be corrected.Once you know better you can do better. Our goal as a collective should be to reduce suffering. The majority of right wing politics (this includes American Dems) don't share this stance. They mostly are concerned with capital accumulation
(DIR) Post #AR51luILCZ0SOnj9LU by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
2022-12-28T23:02:47Z
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@tjgillis There is no definitive good or bad.Correction often is harmful for various reasons (https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe)."Our goal as a collective should be to reduce suffering." Exactly. That's why I'm against fighting over politics. It almost always ends in suffering.I am not continuing in this conversion further for various mental health reasons.Thank you.
(DIR) Post #AR52CNr9umuXbzdcwa by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T23:07:39Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit that's your choice to ignore information and continue on your path. We all grow and learn. Hopefully one day it'll click for you :)
(DIR) Post #AR52TUwqnitKWtSecS by tjgillis@mastodon.openbracket.ca
2022-12-28T23:10:03Z
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@Linux_in_a_Bit good luck kid. Keep growing and learning. Hopefully one day youll see like the rest of us that our past selfs was an idiot