Post AR1sduotsp18eKBvRg by fvehafric@union.place
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(DIR) Post #AR1sdtVike56aYD5ua by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T06:49:07Z
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in school, they taught us to use *more* adverbs to improve our writing."he carefully lifted" vs "he lifted""X, she said dismissively" vs "X, she said"several style guides tell you this is a bad thing. who was right? my teachers, or the style guides?
(DIR) Post #AR1sdtxN5qCPyJ9B0i by fvehafric@union.place
2022-12-27T06:57:53Z
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@thor Depends on whether or not you are getting paid by the word. If not, then the style guides. Also what @vincent said in an earlier comment about using dialogue, action or gesture to indicate what the adverb was trying to do.
(DIR) Post #AR1sduPjOOstOGPpDM by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T07:01:23Z
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@fvehafric maybe our teachers were just helping us pad our school essays...
(DIR) Post #AR1sduotsp18eKBvRg by fvehafric@union.place
2022-12-27T07:04:18Z
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@thor I think there are styles which go in and out of vogue. My main objection to adverbs is that they are a kind of shorthand. My short post aside, you might well end up using more words to show what is happening in a scene rather than just tagging it with an adverb, but you will gain precision and an opportunity to develop pacing and your own voice.
(DIR) Post #AR1sdvDMPsaDsBdSZU by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T07:08:35Z
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@fvehafric i have a tendency to write more like a reporter than a novelist, but i'm interested in developing a better ability to write long form.
(DIR) Post #AR1sdveIni8NDkEyZ6 by fvehafric@union.place
2022-12-27T07:11:41Z
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@thor I think genre matters a lot, obviously, when you make those choices. My default is to write everything and then start cutting. I read with my minds eye - if I can't see what the writer is telling me than I'm not fully engaged in the work. "No." She said dismissively. vs She rolled her eyes. "Piss off" she said.
(DIR) Post #AR1sdw0HTziOJuWWp6 by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T07:14:49Z
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@fvehafric haha, drama time
(DIR) Post #AR1sdwKUGrsVKZyfJo by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2022-12-27T10:36:27Z
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@thor @fvehafric some of the best writers are those who are willing to ignore the rules whenever they feel it necessary to do so.
(DIR) Post #AR1sjh5xpBNrouvbkG by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T10:37:31Z
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@Phil @fvehafric this is true of any art form. i've worked within music, writing and art, and this is said for all of them.butbefore one can ignore the rules, one needs to know the rules well.
(DIR) Post #AR1uq9MxoYjL9n5O8e by thor@berserker.town
2022-12-27T10:38:12Z
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@Phil @fvehafric before an expectation can be creatively thwarted, the expectation must be understood clearly
(DIR) Post #AR1uq9nuCOHUVLgu8G by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2022-12-27T11:01:05Z
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@thor @fvehafric this is a good point. Hard though because they change. I found that different professors and teachers espoused different and sometimes contradictory rules.