Post AQuglo9E105giSyXo0 by h_albermann@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AQtAGPW09ouNeQebU8 by austinkocher@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T04:51:17Z
       
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       For me at least, getting onto @Mastodon and appreciating the structure of the platform and the tone of conversation has made these other pop-up social networks (Twitter replacements) totally unattractive. No, I don’t want to move up on a wait list by “referring 5 friends”; no, I don’t want to be part of another Jack Dorsey project; no, I don’t want to be part of something with weird completely top-down control. Mastodon broke me for other platforms.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQtbf1Mnm7Hkl4JJOS by Bro666@social.tchncs.de
       2022-12-23T10:34:09Z
       
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       @austinkocher @Mastodon Maybe it is the other way around. Maybe the other platforms were broken and the truly social, community-controlled network which is Mastodon (and the Fediverse at large) is what social media should've been like all along.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQtbf1vXgx4gUoZ3Xk by post@qoto.org
       2022-12-23T10:48:29Z
       
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       @Bro666 @austinkocher @Mastodon Or even better: everyone with its own domain like it was with blogs you can follow with RSS feeds.Do you know what Mastodon did wrong? Too many users on instances that blocks entire other instances for ideological reasons and their users are not aware (or fooled into thinking their instance is kindly blocking "bigotry", "fascism" etc).#UFoI This is why the "United Federation of Instances" initiative recently started: https://ufoi.org/To understand the size of this "war" between people fragmenting the Fediverse and people trying to stop this trend, be aware the a person from the latter side was harrassed by people from the former to the point of having a seizure when was messaged with the image of a man violently killing a woman and the text "kill yourself".Is this whole thing worse than Twitter? If you consider the impact of Twitter on the whole society maybe no, but from a human point of view what these Mastodon pioneers did is much worse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQugljuBmxgdYfuToW by eirliani@home.social
       2022-12-23T14:19:19Z
       
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       @austinkocher @Mastodon Austin, I hear you. For someone who resigned from #Twitter's Council, it has been bittersweet leaving the bird app. But I'm very happy here on #Mastodon. Good peeps and such a healthy climate. Good for our collective #MentalHealth.I'm curious to see how this decentralized #fediverse develops further. Props to all the amazing #moderators!
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglkPjtevL8WffzU by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T15:35:52Z
       
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       @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon Yes, the whole thing is incredibly fascinating at the moment. Personally, my usage always depends heavily on the availability of the "right" client app. And there are some promising candidates in development for iOS/Mac. Successful clients will then also influence how Mastodon as a whole develops.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglkztjDqawfaYLo by eirliani@home.social
       2022-12-23T16:11:40Z
       
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       @h_albermann @austinkocher @Mastodon Horst, indeed. I'm excited to see how things develop. #Mastodon
       
 (DIR) Post #AQugllO0Hb869QrnvM by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T17:37:28Z
       
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       @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon From my perspective, the formation of mastodon communities is also an interesting development. People consciously choose an entity whose rules correspond to their own values. That is, the individual can rely to a certain extent on consensus within his chosen group when it comes to protecting his dignity in the social network.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQugllsUSFW3fz89RY by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T17:41:22Z
       
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       @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon For me, Twitter has always been a strange place in this regard. A town square with access for almost everyone. But one in which the local leader led the group of rockers past the radical vegans to put on a show for the bystanders. To protect the individual there was the equivalent of headphones ...Eirliani, you should know much better than I, which dynamics play a role there. ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglmIMu2DSyFEomO by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T17:45:01Z
       
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       @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon What I find interesting is that Mastodon instances can and do block other instances. Whereby blockades are also removed again when a consensus is found. I.e. social interaction on group level is possible. The social acceptance of a group is equivalent to their reach in the Fediverse ... It will be interesting to see which strategies of which user groups successfully achieve their goals. Everything from the digital hermit to the puffer or demagogue ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglmiFLousGVLU7E by hankteford@mastodon.online
       2022-12-23T18:57:41Z
       
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       @h_albermann @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon For myself, I'm most apprehensive about problems of scale - moderation at scale is a Very Hard Problem™, and even at relatively small group sizes is an effectively endless stream of unpleasant and typically uncompensated labor.  Similarly, impersonation, abuse, and bad actors become much thornier problems with greater scale.  It will be interesting to see how these things are addressed as the #fediverse grows.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQugln5Hy9LdPy7t20 by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T20:03:15Z
       
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       @hankteford @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon I see similar to you Hank. As with any human attempt to organize in a new environment, much or all can go wrong. The model of the voluntary moderators in Mastodon has already led to ideas whether an outsourced, professionalized moderation would not be the right idea. Would not rule that out for certain like-minded communities. But with the current size, we need to get the basics right first.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglnbY2D9V21DeJU by hankteford@mastodon.online
       2022-12-23T21:10:02Z
       
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       @h_albermann @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon For the very worst content, moderation is trauma-inducing, so I have real concerns about the ethics of outsourced professional moderation. Even in a hypothetical situation where those concerns are ethically addressed (well-paid moderators with adequate recovery time and mental and emotional health care?), how would such moderation be funded and overseen in the #fediverse?  What kinds of structures and governance would be required?
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglo9E105giSyXo0 by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T21:22:37Z
       
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       @hankteford @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon I am very skeptical myself about "outsourcing" moderation. But you make good arguments why professionalization could be beneficial: Can volunteers really be expected to go through these experiences? But our society also leaves other potentially traumatizing tasks to volunteers: Firefighters, disaster relief, refugee workers …I don't know the answer, but the discussions about it are necessary and probably we will have to try things out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQugloZ6Smn60j5D8q by PennyOaken@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T22:01:43Z
       
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       @h_albermann @hankteford @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon I volunteered to moderate on Reddit - helped to run r/AgainstHateSubreddits. I was doxxed, my life threatened, every conceivable harassment angle aimed at me. I’ve seen ISIL propaganda and worked to take down domestic terrorists, white supremacist groups, and sex traffickers.Asking volunteers to field any of that is unconscionable. Moderators need to be supported, not just thanked.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQuglod0EHuUCouKDg by h_albermann@mastodon.social
       2022-12-23T20:05:03Z
       
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       @hankteford @eirliani @austinkocher @Mastodon I also find the changes that Mastodon brings here interesting: Banning a troublemaker on a personal level or by the moderators of the instance. Banning of entire instances if they are considered toxic or poorly moderated. As a multi-layered approach. This should allow for a certain inherent resilience that conversely keeps the moderation problem manageable. My hope…But it may be that moderators  have quite different stories to tell ...
       
 (DIR) Post #ARbO5XzGnMYEOCxxya by AnonymooseGuy@mas.to
       2022-12-25T02:06:16Z
       
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       @Bro666 @austinkocher @Mastodon The web was designed to be decentralized. #CorporateGreed carved it into walled gardens.None of those gardens are attractive anymore. Anyone with an IP address can run their own [whatever], housing (and protecting) their own data.We can build the #SmallWebhttps://ar.al/2020/08/07/what-is-the-small-web/
       
 (DIR) Post #ARbO5YcyPkJINLXfrU by radix023@noagendasocial.com
       2023-01-13T13:43:43Z
       
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       @AnonymooseGuy @Bro666 @austinkocher @Mastodon well as Parler demonstrated, to have protection from DDoS the only game in town is cloudflare so if cloudflare cancels you you are defenseless