Post AQpcAXMs4J46LvWzuC by thomasf@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AQpbE5c967xxTqo1Zo by stux@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T12:24:39Z
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Wow.. I just read that pawoo has been taken over by the Mask Group that also runs mstdn.jp and mastodon.cloud đ¤ So.. they own now 3 of the largest instanceshttps://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/109550858784792605
(DIR) Post #AQpbMQX3D45CflOkue by Christopher_Salazar@mastodon.social
2022-12-21T12:26:15Z
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@stux What "Mask Group"?????
(DIR) Post #AQpbSQJmuyVfkM3Pt2 by RememberUsAlways@newsie.social
2022-12-21T12:27:19Z
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@stux They have large benefactors who will hire OS programmers. #Competition drives #capitalism
(DIR) Post #AQpbizF0qJuogwibWi by Natanox@chaos.social
2022-12-21T12:30:13Z
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@stux We need a warning displayed for instances not run by people but profit.
(DIR) Post #AQpc0djJYmBpBjJFdw by prawntech3d@mastodon.online
2022-12-21T12:33:30Z
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@stux I read that as another name that has the same consonants...
(DIR) Post #AQpc2DT4AlQGJiSevI by ccunning@mastodon.world
2022-12-21T12:33:48Z
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@stux Wow - wasnât expecting consolidation so soon...
(DIR) Post #AQpc9ov1KUdwUoA8O0 by bks@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T12:35:11Z
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@stux youâve got pawoo on the suspended server list, I think, right? Iâm assuming some other instances do also? Do you think the acquisition might change their moderation rules?
(DIR) Post #AQpcAXMs4J46LvWzuC by thomasf@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T12:35:19Z
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@stux thatâs the reason I was asking this: https://mstdn.social/@thomasf/109546637035619071
(DIR) Post #AQpcDU9kSwItGDnbMG by Facts__Matter__@mastodon.social
2022-12-21T12:35:50Z
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@stux That was to be expected... Thank you for your promise of not selling!
(DIR) Post #AQpcEjlfuJORy98TfE by sreedevkkumar@journa.host
2022-12-21T12:36:03Z
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@stux As the fediverse grows, we can expect to see many for-profit enterprises coming in and attempting to buy the large instances or set up their own. The good thing about the Fediverse is that people can easily move their instances and not be beholden to any one entity. The bad thing about people is that many might simply not bother. And if these servers become bigger than others due to their financial resources, we will see a repeat of many of the problems with traditional social media.
(DIR) Post #AQpcsDCYPLrIY7Wzmy by lucas@fitt.au
2022-12-21T12:43:08Z
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@stux it seems the secret to being bought/sold is to run old versions of mastodon!
(DIR) Post #AQpcwPTuh2ERnFeWwa by Lsquare28@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T12:43:58Z
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@stux I originally read that as âMusk Group!â
(DIR) Post #AQpdixiWi0PVsDdhc8 by AlisonW@fedimon.uk
2022-12-21T12:52:38Z
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@stuxThat's... very worrying. If they have an intention to grow and corner the market (as it were) that would be bad for everyone.
(DIR) Post #AQpdq90J8w2quENgbw by alaric@ioc.exchange
2022-12-21T12:54:01Z
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@stux Yikes...that's quick and they have a "token" offering as wellđ"centralization" around large instances is one thing, not great but acquisitions to happen this soon is bad.....https://ioc.exchange/@alaric/109416615779706197
(DIR) Post #AQpe3UQ6pV4Z5joT8y by stux@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T12:56:21Z
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@bks Only Pawoo yes, it's a very nasty instance..
(DIR) Post #AQpeejluiPTvQ0lzCS by anamckellar@mas.to
2022-12-21T13:03:09Z
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@stux Oh dear. I thought it was too good to last đŹ
(DIR) Post #AQpetjUM3C1esri5wm by thomasf@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T13:05:54Z
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@stux since some have asked about Mask Group: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mask-network-acquires-pawoo-net-070000858.html
(DIR) Post #AQpf7r6CYHD2Xd9Av2 by mrgeneration@soziale.cloud
2022-12-21T13:08:25Z
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@stux all three of them also run on outdated versions with existing security advisories.
(DIR) Post #AQpfv7e9oh0K3KWPqa by mathlover@qoto.org
2022-12-21T13:17:22Z
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@stux Aren't the biggest of these two almost exclusively Japanese language?
(DIR) Post #AQpg2QkXBuGnKHzPBA by leslore@mastodon.social
2022-12-21T13:18:37Z
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@stux it is so easy to be on big & small instances at the same time while supporting eachas one who is not particularly interested in the nuts & bolts of decentralized networking, I can still support by being present & payingI prefer to mix with many rather than be mashed by mob
(DIR) Post #AQpg4BK3WGr63jRIXY by OneMargaretx@mastodon.world
2022-12-21T13:18:58Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AQpgJBhyMqZnbDmWw4 by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2022-12-21T13:21:40Z
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@stux I wonder where they think the profit is
(DIR) Post #AQpghEYdQQ27O1scsq by the_skotts@mastodon.social
2022-12-21T13:26:01Z
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@stux Would it be possible for them to merge all of the instances and users together into one instance?
(DIR) Post #AQph5E155ZKwercqAa by mathlover@qoto.org
2022-12-21T13:30:25Z
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@stux Aren't the biggest of these two almost exclusively Japanese language?I ask this because it's rather interesting that it's Japanese language instances that are the focus of consolidation here, and I wonder if there's a causative reason for this.
(DIR) Post #AQpheVDn73ys9bON72 by jrod3737@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T13:36:45Z
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@stux Sadly this kind of thing is inevitable
(DIR) Post #AQphqnDo0wl9SJG8vY by ken@shigusegubu.club
2022-12-21T13:39:00.758913Z
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@stux mastodon.clout
(DIR) Post #AQpiF7etgKSPn1X4W8 by micha2k@mastodon.online
2022-12-21T13:43:20Z
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@stux ist this the Mask Group from maskgroup.org? I donât know anything about them but their mobile landing page seems rather shadyâŚ.
(DIR) Post #AQpifsARNyqNYz2fs8 by MaxGuthier@digitalcourage.social
2022-12-21T13:48:09Z
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@stux Let's be real. Profit is far from the most nefarious motive people can have on the internet. We should be wary about any corporations running instances but for that matter we should be wary of any large scale instance owner that we don't know. Drawing the line at corporate yes/no is so misleading that it is downright harmful.
(DIR) Post #AQplPIY2Ll0mJwrpyK by YourNeighbor57@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-12-21T14:18:48Z
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@stux @SDF what is your take on this?
(DIR) Post #AQprwRKlIwfAqoqQAi by loud_noodle@techhub.social
2022-12-21T15:32:02Z
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@stux this shit is what makes people uncomfortable of mastodon. We all say that the instance doesn't matter, but there's just no way to evaluate these kinds of things. Now imagine your parents choosing an instance.
(DIR) Post #AQpsKyLkCiCUCK0BN2 by loud_noodle@techhub.social
2022-12-21T15:36:28Z
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@stux it's not clear what the important parameters are when choosing an instance. Even less so measuring these parameters.
(DIR) Post #AQpxWroUpaIdAhwRPc by pkw@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-12-21T16:34:39Z
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@stux In a sense they don't own shit, because the definition of "instance" can be a federated activitypub based platform, which they arguably won't be much longer.Does anybody consider truth (or whatever the trump one is that is based on mastodon code) a real server? I don't.
(DIR) Post #AQq0dIAe32c6W83aEa by cdnirene@mstdn.social
2022-12-21T17:09:27Z
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@mathlover @stux Itâs really not surprising that two Japanese language instances are the focus of consolidation. The potential user base is huge. Japan had the second largest number people using Twitter at 59 million in January. U.S. was first at 77 million. Other countries were much lower.https://www.statista.com/statistics/242606/number-of-active-twitter-users-in-selected-countries/
(DIR) Post #AQq21T3HLMRFAWhe2y by BruceToman@urbanists.social
2022-12-21T17:24:55Z
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@stux Here is context, on why pawoo got so big and why it is widely defederated. (it's about "lolicon"):https://ethanzuckerman.com/2017/08/18/mastodon-is-big-in-japan-the-reason-why-is-uncomfortable/
(DIR) Post #AQq2p4eUKsJVyOlHSi by sjw@bae.st
2022-12-21T17:33:57.640432Z
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@stux @stux Interesting. This is literally Pawoo's 3rd owner.
(DIR) Post #AQqHWMloFPTtyYiv2W by SuperSluether@techhub.social
2022-12-21T20:18:38Z
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@stux and all 3 running older versions of the software. Interesting...
(DIR) Post #AQqRJjnyIBLDC6Ls0m by miblo@mas.to
2022-12-21T22:08:23Z
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@stux I like how those three instances are the very ones lagging behind with their updatesâŚ
(DIR) Post #AQqRftYYiXQ3oBhxkO by harald@mstdn.bitwalker.eu
2022-12-21T22:12:24Z
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@stux looks like they donât like to update and upgrade.
(DIR) Post #AQqScyo8pvNHBGAd5U by mandaroza@qoto.org
2022-12-21T22:23:01Z
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@stux I donât want to know details but can someone explain why pawoo is blocked, Iâve never heard of it before. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #AQqWqTBPc2sKy9k89I by maid@lounge.dtzbts.xyz
2022-12-21T23:10:25.556Z
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@mandaroza@qoto.org @stux@mstdn.social pawoo was started by pixiv as a place for Japanese manga and anime artists. Some of the Japanese anime art offends western sensibilities so some instances block pawoo straight away.
(DIR) Post #AQqWwGbNInxFgdeQxU by mandaroza@qoto.org
2022-12-21T23:11:14Z
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@maid @stux Ah I see, thankyou
(DIR) Post #AQxJPbuX7GrSvCQhrk by ryo@social.076.moe
2022-12-25T05:37:43Z
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Maintaining 3 different versions of the same soyware, all of which being outdated versions on top of that.Clap clap...