Post AQgORX0nUwCwOGmCJs by bVork@raru.re
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 (DIR) Post #AQfsZpluR66MMAjBK4 by drewharwell@mastodon.social
       2022-12-16T18:55:50Z
       
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       One point I do want to make clear: Twitter is Elon Musk's website. He paid all that money and can ban whoever he wants. It's his right, just like it's our right to point out when he's spreading bad information and contradicting himself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQfsZqJaPt2Y2cU4oa by drewharwell@mastodon.social
       2022-12-16T19:13:22Z
       
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       Because Elon has continuously misrepresented this:The data used for flight-tracking accounts like ElonJet - called ADS-B data - are transmitted from nearly every plane in the sky.The signals are unencrypted, and anyone with a $20 RTL-SDR radio can pick them up. Aviation hobbyists gather the data and put them on websites like ADS-B Exchange.It's publicly available, legally acquired data of the kind Elon Musk said he'd allow, until suddenly he no longer did.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQfsZqsgJP73nSu6W8 by drewharwell@mastodon.social
       2022-12-16T19:32:55Z
       
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       How The Washington Post has used flight data:* To track a former president's emergency landing (in 2022): https://wapo.st/3HGp8IA* To map out how military helicopters flew over George Floyd protests (in 2020): https://wapo.st/3V3WRie* To raise questions about Elon Musk's flights (in 2019): https://wapo.st/2RmjE7X* To investigate The Post's owner Jeff Bezos (in 2018): https://wapo.st/3YmLt3M* To document extravagant trips on the taxpayer dime (in 2017): https://wapo.st/3HMh9d0
       
 (DIR) Post #AQgORW9yfJxNkS40zQ by derekbruff@mastodon.social
       2022-12-16T20:02:05Z
       
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       @drewharwell Honest question: The data may be public, but knowing which plan belongs to a specific person, that's not public is it?
       
 (DIR) Post #AQgORX0nUwCwOGmCJs by bVork@raru.re
       2022-12-17T01:49:09Z
       
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       @derekbruff @drewharwell You can work backwards through public data.Here's the FAA registry of N628TS: https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResult?NNumberTxt=628TSYou'll notice that the owner is FALCON LANDING, LLC in Hawthorne, CA.We then go to the Business Search provided by the government of California and punch that into the search tool:https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/businessYou'll get 4 entries, one of which is still active. Click on View History and you'll be taken to a list of filings and statements. Click on the Statement of Information from May 25, 2021, and download the PDF.Open the PDF and you'll discover that the manager of this company is Elon MuskAnd there you have it: Elon Musk is the manager of the company that owns this jet, derived entirely from government sources.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQgbk8rIp0msO3XWaW by derekbruff@mastodon.social
       2022-12-17T04:18:09Z
       
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       @bVork @drewharwell Huh. It's all public data, but that amount of sleuthing makes it feel a little like doxxing. You can track down my home address through public data (since I bought my home), but that wouldn't make it cool to post online. I mean, Musk is definitely a bad actor in all this and knowing a plane's location isn't the same as knowing a person's location, but I can see why some people might find this worrisome.
       
 (DIR) Post #AQgg0lKHy48E8rHKUa by bVork@raru.re
       2022-12-17T05:06:01Z
       
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       @derekbruff @drewharwell I'm not sure they are comparable. I did this exercise solely through corporate records. I'm not sure I could work backwards through publicly available property records to acquire your address, even given that you are using your real name and I can make an educated guess on what city you live in - and definitely not easily-accessible online sources like the ones I used.Aren't most property title searches based on address, not name? I guess if you have a landline, I could probably find you in what remains of the phone book, but that requires actually acquiring a physical phone book from your presumed area.I think if I were to try doxxing you via legal, public methods (and I want to reiterate I would NEVER do this, I'm just laying out the most logical approach), I'd do it with a public records request of registered voters in Mississippi.But you do raise several questions (that I don't really have the answers to):What level of information counts as doxxing when it gets posted online without your consent? I mean, you'll notice I'm not using my real name here. Is it doxxing if somebody posts that, even though most people in this thread are using theirs?And do public persona (celebrities, politicians, or high-profile businesspeople) deserve lower expectations of privacy?And what information is worth disclosing in the public interest, like (just FOR EXAMPLE) a private jet making a bazillion polluting trips every year?I'm not sure it's possible to develop a solid line between doxxing and posting public information. I think the closest I can get is "is this likely to cause extra-legal harm to the subject over a matter that is not of the public interest?"