Post AQLBVE2MbnAkyZmWaO by grobmeier@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AQKzu4Ui1iR9AY7ZOy by vbuterin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:05:08Z
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One thing I've wondered about for a long time is why there hasn't been more innovation around faster typing tools. For example, we type " the " much more often than the letter q so why doesn't " the " have it's own key on the keyboard?I think I finally understand why...
(DIR) Post #AQL01u1QqVn50UA3F2 by vbuterin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:06:36Z
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The key (no pun intended) is to notice that on phones there *has* been lots of such innovation. Fancy typing methods, even offering suggestions for entire words that you could type in a single click.
(DIR) Post #AQL0BGwD0zpggXBaGO by vbuterin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:08:14Z
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So why on phones and not laptops?Basically, because on laptops, typing is already *fast enough*. When I write blog posts, I spend much less than half the time actually typing. More goes to thinking what to say, scanning for edits to make, etc etc.But phones are much slower than laptops, and so you need all the clever tricks to get them anywhere close to that "good enough" level.
(DIR) Post #AQL0PKaOFSVU3NgTJo by MarkusZoppelt@infosec.exchange
2022-12-06T18:10:50Z
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@vbuterin Interesting.Why do you think the TouchBar on MacBooks has failed then? Didn’t it provide exactly this feature on a dynamically populated strip of “intelligent” inputs?
(DIR) Post #AQL0U4dkxftC2xWJNo by vbuterin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:11:41Z
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I have not tried https://replit.com/, but I am guessing that this is a big part of why Replit it targeting phones so heavily.AI is best at low-cognitive-effort boilerplate tasks, and on phones it's exactly the boilerplate writing part of coding that is less efficient, and so AI slots in perfectly to solve that issue, and maybe make coding on phones viable.
(DIR) Post #AQL0ac8FLvvFentsdU by vbuterin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:12:52Z
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@MarkusZoppelt I haven't used macbooks much, but doesn't that fit into my line of argument? On laptops, regular keyboards are fast enough that typing is not the bottleneck.
(DIR) Post #AQL0zpfGB02MroMoam by emmz@mastodon.social
2022-12-06T18:17:26Z
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@vbuterin It turns out this “fast enough” speed of information transfer is invariant across languages even!https://www.science.org/content/article/human-speech-may-have-universal-transmission-rate-39-bits-second
(DIR) Post #AQL2GD1FDDktt51TxQ by pedromj@mastodon.social
2022-12-06T18:31:35Z
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@vbuterin I would vote for þ (þorn). It is a nice and simple symbol for "the."
(DIR) Post #AQL44RaxOQdzWlFFdQ by HRHSheriff@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T18:51:46Z
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@vbuterin typing killing the memory highly recommended you to use pen and paper to keep your hand and brain connected. Pen not acting like the buttons and brain respond quite different then then typing.
(DIR) Post #AQL7AMSXhT5hCPp30y by rumblestiltskin@cryptocartel.social
2022-12-06T19:26:26Z
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@vbuterin Any innovation on typing on my desktop would probably make me slower. I have spent my entire life learning to type well on this standard keyboard.
(DIR) Post #AQLBVE2MbnAkyZmWaO by grobmeier@mastodon.social
2022-12-06T20:15:09Z
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@vbuterin Fully agree. I tend to think ppl who don't do the 10-finger system switch to phones/tablets because of the typing support. Ppl who can do the 10-finger system just stay with a keyboard. Me too- nothing faster than a good keyboard and a few shortcuts (shortcuts on phone, think about that)
(DIR) Post #AQLBidD4KQV8oQBJ8y by JediMasterToronto@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-12-06T20:17:35Z
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@vbuterin Excellent synopsis…thank you for sharing.
(DIR) Post #AQLI3TRkQG9UL2MwU4 by 1lyaP@mastodon.ml
2022-12-06T21:28:34Z
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@vbuterin actually, there are such innovations. example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1PhFvNDVEEk
(DIR) Post #AQLU2EKaKq7YcQByIi by VeeSilverball@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-06T23:42:48Z
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@vbuterin The observation generalizes to all HCI: as with "the best code is no code", "the best interface is no interface" by looking for abstractions that can usefully apply more and more convention and context. AI technology has always been part of this process even before ML; searching, sorting, ranking are all algorithmic problems with crossover between AI and CS.Prompting lets me discuss code changes in terms of large-scale, conventional patterns, removing most of the editing.
(DIR) Post #AQM7Z0aeLBoVlqKL0i by fuchs@norden.social
2022-12-07T07:05:43Z
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@vbuterin Macros can help though. I will have a few words on macro keys permanently and will add some temporarily when writing papers. But I am also a below average typer in terms of speed, so my approach might be rendered useless if I were just faster at tft.
(DIR) Post #AQQGrNAqn0b3FHvmRE by corlin@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-09T07:08:42Z
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@vbuterin one of the more interesting areas of mobile keyboard innovation is rotary entry https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328672960_Text_Entry_by_Rotary_Head_Movements_10th_International_Conference_IPC'2018_Bydgoszcz_Poland_November_2018_Proceedings
(DIR) Post #AQiZnjzFQRDyoYlRVg by kiran@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-18T03:05:46Z
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@vbuterin I read some convincing arguments that qwerty has been outdated since even before the smartphone. Things don't change until a 10x improvement comes along. I think that means either brain-computer-interface or the dissolution of words to convey meaning for most things. The latter may seem far-fetched but consider how 90+% of words on the screen are spam anyway. And how "normies" prefer instagram or tiktok to word apps. This is why I believe in immersive as a desktop medium
(DIR) Post #AQicOEyxrWhxHKAE76 by ntnsndr@social.coop
2022-12-18T03:34:45Z
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@vbuterin I have been writing more than I ever expected on phone. And weirdly I find I tend to write faster there, mainly due to a focus that is harder to get on laptop. Maybe because on a phone it still feels like "oh I am just jotting something down, not actually sitting down to write," so there isn't the pressure.But totally: the real limiter is not so much typing speed as having something to say.
(DIR) Post #AQlcThYpcPDGpqQMbY by machocam@mastodon.social
2022-12-19T14:19:25Z
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@vbuterin I find that voice typing has become good enough on mobile to put ideas on paper 📝 Editing after can be done on mobile or laptop
(DIR) Post #AQmIxYDp6IogdLVtwW by nuwtox@mas.to
2022-12-19T22:13:19Z
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@vbuterin Swiping is also still immensely popular on phones!
(DIR) Post #AQoMgl7Kgusvpze6xk by openroomxyz@glasgow.social
2022-12-20T20:38:42Z
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@vbuterinWhy phones if a cheap laptop can be cheaper than phone?
(DIR) Post #AQpc5h4kY2Jb0qkI0e by anils4ever@cryptodon.lol
2022-12-21T12:33:54Z
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@vbuterin i want to meet you i am really impressed when I look at your first ETH proposal made in Bitcoin conference