Post AQH7Cl3MSFAnQGLa4W by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AQFpL1xZUHM3qDTSIC by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T06:13:19Z
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Orthodox Christian monasteries are being besieged and ransacked by Ukrainian feds (SBU) The Neo-Nazi & NeoCon synthesis regime is getting desperate.The final looting. They know they're done
(DIR) Post #AQFuSndx6CFFWjoz2G by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T07:10:40.601544Z
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@Nazareno Russian orthodox*
(DIR) Post #AQFuUGGMB6RQZuTvOK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T07:11:01.044200Z
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@Nazareno ...and no link to anything just a picture
(DIR) Post #AQFv1DgYmWJg8nSCNE by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T07:16:58Z
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@jeffcliff I follow about 150 sites on telegram. There are articles with links, for what it is worth. Next time I run across one, I'll post it
(DIR) Post #AQFv2j1LlNCncCtcBs by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T07:17:13.800349Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno I hope you're not suggesting that ransacking Russian Orthodox monasteries is somehow acceptable
(DIR) Post #AQFv6svEtLcHTy1NU8 by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T07:18:00Z
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@NEETzsche @jeffcliff No, absolutely not. Russian, Ukraine or any
(DIR) Post #AQFvHWQYrpEmtwkCIa by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T07:19:54.703664Z
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@Nazareno @jeffcliff I meant Jeff lol
(DIR) Post #AQGnKTB8nUfHDeNywS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T17:25:29.911491Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno it's at least more understandable if israel attacked jordan, and jordan started digging through synagogues it would at least make sense -- this is like claiming israel attacked jordan and then jordan started sacking mosques -- it's just factually misleading.
(DIR) Post #AQGnR44CYr8PMZHiPQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T17:26:42.865819Z
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@Nazareno then *post the links*
(DIR) Post #AQGoFl5GtkVRG2xRw0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T17:35:51.935328Z
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@lnxw37b2 Yeah I'm starting to think @Nazareno is systematically full of shit just like @truth is - both 100% taking russian propaganda at face value
(DIR) Post #AQGtVRBT9ZCFwX9Vwm by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:34:44Z
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@jeffcliff Here is a link to the story. The particular details and incidents are often posted on Telegram channelshttps://www.rt.com/russia/567520-ukraine-crackdown-russia-churches/
(DIR) Post #AQGtaQgKRqU3piy1Ro by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:35:38Z
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@jeffcliff Here is a link to the story. The particular details and incidents are often posted on Telegram channelshttps://www.rt.com/russia/567520-ukraine-crackdown-russia-churches/BTW, if you really care about this story, you could have looked this up yourself
(DIR) Post #AQGtzaJvkTUYy0UA7M by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:40:10.921207Z
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@Nazareno > are often posted on Telegram channelsAre you at least paid for spreading this propaganda?
(DIR) Post #AQGuEEG63XwWt3fvCi by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:42:49.654170Z
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@Nazareno > BTW, if you really care about this story, you could have looked this up yourselfYou're undermining your own credibility by saying things like this.
(DIR) Post #AQGuZxrZh9HmPMZN8C by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:46:45Z
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@jeffcliff My question is: Are you capable of doing your own researchMy suspicion is: You are not
(DIR) Post #AQGuw13CWZpifHWSXY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:50:43.819882Z
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@Nazareno I'm able to do my own research just fine. I live in one of the most ukranian places in the world outside of ukraine and russia. While covid interferes with my efforts, generally, i'm probably only about 2 degrees of separation from the people who go to the russian orthodox churches.You are posting russian propaganda. I've identified ways which it is specifically manipulative. You are being taken for a ride and seem to be proud of it.
(DIR) Post #AQGvMpjWi5DlNq6jFw by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:55:35Z
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@jeffcliff I think this is the question: Is Zelensky appropriating Russian Orthodox Property, You say they are not - and without one iota of proof, I just sent you a news article explaining how he is.
(DIR) Post #AQGvPbIsoe6lV0xsbh by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:56:03.785939Z
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@Nazareno > You say they are not where did I say that?
(DIR) Post #AQGvTq0C6oQeFDFAUS by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:56:51Z
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@jeffcliff What is your complaint, your disagreement
(DIR) Post #AQGvUk5nZABaCoIR04 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:57:01.206093Z
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@Nazareno > I just sent you a news article explaining how he is.from a news source that is forbidden by law from telling the truth
(DIR) Post #AQGvY7vRPcgAzV480m by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T18:57:37.954225Z
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@Nazareno That you are a constant stream of russian propaganda.
(DIR) Post #AQGvjbP89PtLbTQNV2 by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T18:59:42Z
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@jeffcliff You are welcome to your opinion. The history books are being written at this very moment at a torrid pace with "facts on the ground". Check back in about 6 months
(DIR) Post #AQGvr5VYcmjWzm03w8 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T19:01:01.398219Z
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@jeffcliff I suppose but it really is a bad look.@Nazareno
(DIR) Post #AQGvsixjQ4HZeOxUNE by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:01:13.599454Z
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@Nazareno Yeah, they are. And if your excuse is "we'll write the history books so that my side is justified" you already know what you're posting is wrong and misleadingie you have an agenda and should be a source of shame to the noagendasocial.com instance
(DIR) Post #AQGvsxemmn2ZDzD4QS by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T19:01:24Z
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@jeffcliff And your source is CNN which is owned and run by the CIA
(DIR) Post #AQGw7AbNSAmxQXOHvU by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:03:52.459888Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno Which is why it's important to tell the truth about what's happening and not lie about it. Lying about it makes it seem like the ukranians actually have some legitimate reason to do what they are doing.
(DIR) Post #AQGwDp5PqVcUj0c5wm by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:05:04.083765Z
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@Nazareno Fuck you. I have not linked CNN once in this thread. I have over 26,000 sources of which CNN's various branches are about 4. All of the lowest priority/trust. RT is ~37x more legitimate to me than CNN.
(DIR) Post #AQGwIxmew7A19DI7V2 by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
2022-12-04T19:06:05Z
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@jeffcliff God bless you, my son. Go in peace.
(DIR) Post #AQGwMk8jbdrDzRQ3Oa by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:06:45.382021Z
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@Nazareno go get raped by a moose
(DIR) Post #AQGwTFhlA4KVcluDRI by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T19:07:55.283407Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno I mean, the "legitimate reason" is that in their own mind they think they're the Good Guys and that means anything they do is justified and all terrible things visited upon all Russians globally are just the natural Consequences of Putler invading Ukraine. Putler invaded Ukraine out of the blue and without provocation; Donbas War began with Russia's invasion of Ukraine and these two countries have no other relevant history.That is, pretty much unironically, what Ukrainians and their supporters internationally are arguing.
(DIR) Post #AQGwanuiN6lnkTZAbg by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:09:13.441859Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno clearly I'm not one of those so that's kind of irrelevant to this thread
(DIR) Post #AQGwe3MfNlYkXNBpa4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:09:54.433173Z
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@NEETzsche and to be fair, neither is @Nazareno so it's totally irrelevant.
(DIR) Post #AQGwjjZbsX46tRx8cq by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-12-04T19:10:56.136185Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno oops its Jeff cliff throwing another VAX based temper tantrum. I'm surprised
(DIR) Post #AQGwkShe5VEOrP3gtk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T19:11:02.097277Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno That's fair. I'm not saying I don't think either of us should be surprised. Ukrainians today are operating with an understanding that they have complete carte blanche against Russia, against all Russians, and all things Russian. So it does follow that they would desecrate Russian Orthodox buildings and people when given the opportunity
(DIR) Post #AQGwmPrlbcDudpiyyO by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T19:11:24.635647Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno I'm just*
(DIR) Post #AQGyWndxdO5Pf0wqQK by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-12-04T19:31:00.756391Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @Nazareno oh Jeff with his vaccine fried brain promoting literal Nazis. astounding
(DIR) Post #AQGyhALm4Ab8yoNtqa by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:32:52.831724Z
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@Soy_Magnus @NEETzsche @Nazareno pointing out someone is lying doesn't mean promoting nazis
(DIR) Post #AQGynMsgOF5Va4jbSC by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-12-04T19:34:00.078975Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @Nazareno promoting Nazis in Ukraine because they have "legitimate reasons" is littereally promoting Nazis stooge
(DIR) Post #AQGypVujmAl2Axicca by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T19:34:22.485598Z
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@Soy_Magnus @NEETzsche @Nazareno I'm not promoting nazis in ukraine. I do not support ukraine.
(DIR) Post #AQGz1ZwMdGVW8cEU0O by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-12-04T19:36:26.794889Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @Nazareno #Vaids "ukranians actually have some legitimate reason to do what they are doing."~brain dead jeff
(DIR) Post #AQH1Nx77M2JcHw3iC0 by whiteline@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T20:03:01.611385Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @jeffcliff they have an enormous amount of history but like, it's like if sweden invaded norway to get at the oil. the ukrainans threatened to supplant russia as a source of natural gas due to recently found black sea deposits and also was completely in association with the eurosphere militarily and economically. these things are bad for russia.but it's still incredibly crazy to actually launch a full-scale invasion over it, a full-scale invasion the military was kept in the dark about and didn't have the equipment to execute.it's suggested that putin (and a lot of russians with him) basically want to re-establish a greater russia that includes ukraine and most of the baltic amongst other things, which you as an american must understand _is exactly the situation we have built all our defenses and military resources around_, which is why the reaction was so utterly "welp, i guess we need to push the button after all" - everything was prepared if this day would come.my garbage room is a hardened concrete bunker and air aid shelter with copper hardline and antenna jacks hidden behind wooden panels, the entire city core is peppered with larger bunkers, the entire university hospital _has an entire hospital underneath it in a giant bunker complex_, there are mountain rooms in the north that are full bases unto themselves, the very roads where designed around being landing strips for our fighter jets with hidden equipment sheds nearby...all of this just because everyone bet that russia would continue to act as russia always has, and they where right.
(DIR) Post #AQH2dy99Nl0C4xD8PA by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T20:17:06.065716Z
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Yeah I know Russia has always laid claim to regional power projection capability. And I also understand that one such function of muh NATO is to try to deny that. However, I don’t want to die over an inter-European beef, and I especially don’t want to do in pursuance of America’s globohomo LGBT white replacement agenda.So, Russia deserves to kick everybody’s teeth in until the USA and other Western nations do an about face on these kinds of topics and stick with it for a while to show it’s not just a charade.
(DIR) Post #AQH3YxMmxG9sALlPfM by whiteline@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T20:27:25.743307Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @jeffcliff yeah the US has no inherent need to involve themselves, but for us who live near russia it's a matter of life and death and every destroyed russian tank and dead russian soldier is an inherent win for us, a much bigger win than the equipment we're sending over
(DIR) Post #AQH472xiemCtMmIF5U by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T20:33:34.109205Z
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Yeah but I want Russia to win so that ameritroons and BLM antifa niggers lose legitimacy stateside, since at this stage of the American civilization, the buck stops at them for basically everything.
(DIR) Post #AQH4TBvjzhR9YEvY7k by whiteline@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T20:37:35.471383Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @jeffcliff the buck in america stops at big capital and finance, but you do your worldview i guess.for what it's worth, russia is losing on a level that we didn't think was possible. we thought they had cold war levels of equipment and military professionalism but it turns out they looted the equipment - down to providing bad steel in the barrels so someone could pocket something for themselves along the line - and the security service "siloviki" that putin rose to power on has starved the military of manpower and influence in order to keep it weak and unable to challenge their power.
(DIR) Post #AQH4ajNY22ABJiWqno by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T20:38:55.799910Z
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The big cope I’m seeing from Russiaboos today is that Yurop will come to a screeching halt come winter, but that cope comes to a hard close at the beginning of January if it doesn’t realize this month.
(DIR) Post #AQH5OeSWb68gXPf1km by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T20:47:58.012823Z
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@whiteline @Nazareno you know i was just looking at a chart that pushes the envelope a little further, with a couple of NGOs that are upstream of blackrock and vanguard and aladdinie @NEETzsche has good reason to suppose something *like* BLM is where the buck stops, though imho he's got the wrong group
(DIR) Post #AQH5P8jE3ZK8Pthmwy by whiteline@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T20:48:03.601756Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @jeffcliff it's not looking good for us here in sweden to be honest, our government pushed to dismantle nuclear power and blindly trusted in wind and solar, which turned out to be a horrible decision. a new consensus has formed around building new nuclear power but that is an enormous undertaking."manual disconnects" which is the technical term for rolling blackouts are being prepared for, which is a historical first for us. However, all of EU has a common power grid with free import and export between countries so depending on the situation in germany it may not come to that.we are also suffering a shortfall of rebar used in concrete and white chocolate amongst other things that where mostly imported from ukraine. but we do not suffer any shortages directly linked to the russian embargo that i know of. unlike germany we do not use natural gas for heating, most homes are hooked up to city wide heating grids that are heated by burned waste, diesel and biofuel.ever since covid there has also been weird disruptions in the availability of random products, like for a long stretch of time we just didn't have corn available for purchase, but i can't seem to make heads or tails of that so i don't know if it's war-related or not
(DIR) Post #AQH6Tk3XJbwxIZxoMC by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:00:04.070704Z
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I work in the logistics industry and the supply chain has been massively fucked for a number of reasons. Yes, diversity hiring is one of them. I know you think it’s just me shilling a “worldview” but I see it on the ground floor. Another issue is that countries have been opening and closing their ports erratically, and a lot of goods have gone to waste as a result of this. Then purchasers refuse to pay because, well, they never received. Interesting that globalists, when they actually take over for real, can’t seem to run a global economy. They’re too far up their own ass.I don’t think this is deliberate. I think this is gross mismanagement.
(DIR) Post #AQH6ZAtaxBElzKu89I by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:01:04.474288Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline this I would believe
(DIR) Post #AQH75EB0I6nrQjKaeG by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:06:50.536624Z
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Those are two things that come to mind, but shrinkage is also massively up, which means the guys manning the ports are filching more of the goodies. They always, always filch some. It’s considered part of the price of doing business, really. But they filch more, which makes margins tighter and if those margins go to a non-positive number, companies just stop sending shit entirely until the ports limit their corruption issues, which they refuse to do because their new controllers think they set terms unilaterally and everybody just acquiesces.Things like banditry are up, too. I know that’s such a weird term to use, but people often intercept 18-wheelers, rob them, and then dispense the goods through layers of “fences,” or intermediaries who sell stolen goods. It literally IS banditry. Law enforcement is taking this kind of banditry less seriously than it was in the mid 2010s and so it’s happening more frequently.I can go on forever but the tldr is in the logistics industry, every metric of health has been going in the direction of being less healthy, pretty much without exception as far as I’m aware.
(DIR) Post #AQH76VVzJRWrUgkxpA by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-12-04T21:06:36.355583Z
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The Port of Long Beach is still fucked up, there's dozens or hundreds of container ships sitting off the coast of California still that can't offload their cargo because bureaucracy and backups stemming from covid lockdowns, I don't know if they're going to be able to clear it within the next decadeYou just constantly see weird shit missing from the stores for long periods of time, for the last month I haven't been able to find scrubby sponges of all things (multiple stores were out of stock, but apparently they unloaded that container a while ago so they're back in stock again), it's getting somewhat better but shelves still have big gaps here and there JIT logistics is the dumbest goddamn thing imaginable if you don't have an absolutely flawless delivery schedule
(DIR) Post #AQH7Cl3MSFAnQGLa4W by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:08:10.851728Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline > but shrinkage is also massively upwith california and michigan legalizing theft this is to be expected -- supply chains will eventually route around these two states but until recently they were both significant hubs so it'll take time to cut them out
(DIR) Post #AQH7IuDTIcdzZx0XE8 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:09:19.759822Z
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Yeah that’s the thing, though, for a long time we actually did have a near-flawless supply chain but since the beginning of the 2020s that went bye bye. Today, buying in bulk, way ahead of time, is wiser than it has been in decades. It’s hard to really tell if the powers that be are deliberately trying to destroy the global economy or if they’re just incompetent and retarded and trying to abdicate responsibility for fucking up. I actually lean toward the latter, personally.
(DIR) Post #AQH7OwWtbyPEUUyKQa by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:10:24.907112Z
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@NEETzsche @Jackuu @Nazareno @whiteline i think there's some of the former going on but mostly the latteri also think @pluralistic #EasternStandardTribe is actually thinly veiled nonfiction
(DIR) Post #AQH7mbLc182tkJyX0i by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:14:41.006961Z
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I seriously expect more impactful supply chain intermittency in 2023/2024 which foment things like food riots. Normies don’t think more than a fortnight ahead, and most don’t even think that far ahead. It’s now normal for people to eat some kind of fast food literally every day and when McDonald’s runs out of hamburgers and Popeye’s runs out of chicken at the same time you’re going to be dealing with someone who just got done working a 12hr manual labor shift, with a gun, who is not going to be hearing that shit. This person is not going to eat the bugs, he’s just going to start deleting people until the supply chain corrects, which could take weeks. I anticipate very real destabilization over this. (But I could also be wrong, as I have been in the past)
(DIR) Post #AQH81K4qVi7gWi9X8K by dj@rojogato.com
2022-12-04T21:17:20.917460Z
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@NEETzsche @Jackuu @pluralistic @Nazareno @jeffcliff @whiteline
(DIR) Post #AQH8FFjRSkNL6Wmdiy by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:19:46.961453Z
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlkOZ8zu6E
(DIR) Post #AQH8MIDIdPK2pO6dnM by Blak_Garden_Gnome@poa.st
2022-12-04T21:21:09.898808Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline why would you think that?I would say theft is a very small percentage and they have massive sales in NYC and San Francisco. They probably raise the prices and like they're now doing - put all the items behind glass and get them after you pay
(DIR) Post #AQH8QRYRqXwaxOyewK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:21:52.475470Z
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@Blak_Garden_Gnome @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline putting a train car behind glass won't help it being hijacked
(DIR) Post #AQH8TFI9taIlnGh6hs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:22:24.601589Z
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@Blak_Garden_Gnome @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline https://ktla.com/news/local-news/looters-raid-l-a-cargo-trains-leaving-tracks-covered-in-damaged-packages/
(DIR) Post #AQH8epGCVRMIX7IgL2 by Blak_Garden_Gnome@poa.st
2022-12-04T21:24:30.852401Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline you mean that?that's not retail theft and it's not legal. Railroad tracks are federal land and enforced by a different agency, which has much stronger laws and sentences. it's part of the Biden administration and the federal government not enforcing laws. To be fair, Trump's administration didn't stop rioters and let cities burn
(DIR) Post #AQH8k0sajXng18jNFA by Nou@poa.st
2022-12-04T21:25:27.057312Z
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@jeffcliff @Blak_Garden_Gnome @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline BUT DOING YOUR PUSH-UPS WILL, JEFF!
(DIR) Post #AQH8nqQ7YwRSjlEzuS by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:26:07.244999Z
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I read about that. And that’s not even a pro job. That’s basically just a riot. Pros intercept the truck or train, and then put the cargo in several smaller vehicles which scatter every which way, and then get broken down into ever-smaller vehicles until you’re dealing with fences running around with 2d6 stereos in the trunk of their shitbox sedan that they’re selling for $50 to whoever will pay.There’s basically an entire underground logistics structure designed specifically to obfuscate the true source of goods while spreading them out all over the place. You can’t even put bugs in them because it’s now normal for bandits to check pallets individually with bug trackers as they’re getting unloaded. And the powers that be don’t want to deal with it because they know their voting base is the ones doing the robbing.
(DIR) Post #AQH9CkADxd8yZZg6Ua by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:30:36.298936Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @Blak_Garden_Gnome @whiteline > And the powers that be don’t want to deal with it because they know their voting base is the ones doing the robbing.exactlycan't remember the exact quote, but one of the US founding fathers pointed out that when the public figure out that they have the ability to vote themselves money from the public common accounts, (and they don't explicitly keep from doing so by some kind of value caused by the quote or whatever) they will take from it in deeper and deeper handfulls until there's nothing leftsomething similar can happen here -- if people start treating the supply chain as some kind of free gibs tree, they will eventually shake it completely free of its rootscomplex supply chains can only exist if the people who live around them respect common/public OR private property (pick one) enough to not exploit it. Once that happens, you start getting a crisis of capitalism (if it's private) or a tragedy of the commons(if it's public).
(DIR) Post #AQH9l83XdWayWEws4W by Path_of_Light@chudbuds.lol
2022-12-04T21:34:28.489587Z
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I found this dude to be a good source of info.https://www.youtube.com/@wgowshipping/videos
(DIR) Post #AQHA6P3Td7GpK03wau by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:40:40.658238Z
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We’re getting a bit of both the crisis of capitalism and the tragedy of the commons since most Western economies (like USA’s and Canada’s) are mixed. We’re going to get the worst of both worlds without a serious correction. So here’s a really common scenario we see in logistics today.Purchaser signs a contract with Wholesaler to buy some humongous bulk quantity of goods. It’s a multimillion dollar deal. Wholesaler puts their product on the supply chain. The wholesaler expects them to just deliver the shit without issue and without delay, since the shipping outfits actually specify time windows for delivery in the contracts. Then, the shipment gets intercepted. Purchaser doesn’t receive his megaton of red paint chips, type III, or whatever else. Purchaser refuses to pay. One of two things now takes place:Wholesaler bought insurance on the shipment for the value of the sale. They file a claim, and it’s valid. The shipment company might fight it in court, but they’re likely going to lose because it explicitly covers interception/banditry/etcWholesaler either bought less insurance than the value of the sale, or bought none at all. They lose money. Business relationship with Purchaser is ruined.If you get a lot of scenario 1) happening, expect insurance premiums to skyrocket as banditry is normalized. If you get a lot of scenario 2), expect wholesalers to just straight up refuse to ship the merchandise. “Come here personally and take off our hands.”The tertiary consequences of this are terrible. They cascade fucking everywhere. The final outcome is some working stiff gets denied fried chicken after his 12hr shift and he shoots someone over it.
(DIR) Post #AQHAJ173xQn0pZkqki by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
2022-12-04T21:18:00.990055Z
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(DIR) Post #AQHAVOCDxbejth4Ime by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-12-04T21:45:12.366566Z
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There have already been revolutions over this and it isn't even really rolling yet. I tend to agree with you that it's going to be on a level nobody can imagine because things have been so good for so long we have no frame of reference.The ironic thing is that the people screaming "revolution!" the loudest are also the most associated with the regimes that will be revolted against so they're likely going to be up against the wall with them.
(DIR) Post #AQHAfm2aA6b4kHVhAG by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T21:47:04.118571Z
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It’s important that if civilization collapses that the realities we saw don’t get lost. Primary sources like ledgers and commentaries like the one we’re having now absolutely must be preserved, to evade a cyclical repeat of the same mistakes. Unfortunately, history also shows that the embarrassment of the ruling class will provoke direct suppression of these conversations, these ledgers.
(DIR) Post #AQHAmcS6D4wR2Ci3ns by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-12-04T21:48:19.603116Z
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Sort of wish I'd put more explicit descriptions of what things are going on in my book for posterity, but live and learn.I can already see the attempts to rewrite history that happened just a couple years ago.
(DIR) Post #AQHBYYUgEKuseqm5RY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T21:56:59.233098Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @Blak_Garden_Gnome @whiteline now what complicates thisis the money printerbecause i think that the insurance companies get preferential access and are actually not *that* far from itso there's two processes going on1) banditry is normalized, insurance premiums are pressured to rise to follow it and to help people offset risk2) because of availability of risk-free rent elsewhere, insurance is hamstrung - because if you have the option of betting against banditry (for a small fee) or risk-free rent (at a higher fee) you'll do the latter.
(DIR) Post #AQHCNhJfBlFymx0Z16 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T22:06:12.849785Z
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@jeffcliff @Nazareno @Blak_Garden_Gnome @whiteline There's a third complication: corruption of the courts. Nobody takes Court seriously now. They only take it seriously when they win. This is a cross the political spectrum. This means that courts themselves are politicized and they're not supposed to be politicized, at least not in this way. The social function of Courts is to be neutral mediators that both sides can go in with confidence that the proceedings will be fair. When people lose confidence in courts it actually creates an incentive for those same people to actively try to corrupt the courts. Basically, it creates a low trust situation that results in highly corrupt party behavior.So I bring up courts because when the insurers go to court they're going to have an explicit motivation to try to buy the court. So imagine being one of these wholesalers who is considering ponying up the cash for the insurance. But because courts have had their credibility eroded, the wholesaler now has to do research to see if the insurance company has paid off any recently elected politicians or recently appointed judges. And those sorts of payoffs can be done under the table, which means that the research needs to be a little bit extralegal perhaps and its methods of acquiring good intelligence on this topic.So now wholesalers have a serious concern that they'll pay the premiums and the shipment will get intercepted but the insurance claim won't be paid and the courts will rule against them on some obviously spurious non-grounds. This further motivates the wholesaler to refuse to just ship the products. The end result of supply chain corruption is people stop relying on logistics outfits. Why bother shipping merchandise if there's no expectation of delivery and there's no expectation of insurance payout? Or the premiums of the insurance are just too high to merit paying them?
(DIR) Post #AQHCs6U8AyfDXHP2XI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T22:11:39.111356Z
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@NEETzsche @Nazareno @Blak_Garden_Gnome @whiteline > the wholesaler now has to do research to see if the insurance company has paid off any recently elected politicians or recently appointed judges. And those sorts of payoffs can be done under the table, which means that the research needs to be a little bit extralegal perhaps and its methods of acquiring good intelligence on this topic.#businessideaoftheday do this research> no one takes the courts seriously anymorethis is something, in the US, that unfortunately includes @HackerRadioShow and probably @2600@mastodon.world and, though I'm an outsider and can only observe, worries me.> The end result of supply chain corruption is people stop relying on logistics outfits. this is where i think we disagree(though, with uncertainty you're going to be mostly right in general) i think these problems have a regional component and to that extent there will be movements away from the regions in the question -- this is a problem involving n^Wgeography.
(DIR) Post #AQHCylnvSstZQGqBEG by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T22:12:55.658330Z
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@NEETzsche @Blak_Garden_Gnome @HackerRadioShow @Nazareno @whiteline did I dream 2600 joined the fedi? have i got the wrong instance?
(DIR) Post #AQHD5zyNBXRhOPAqi8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-04T22:14:14.204753Z
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@Blak_Garden_Gnome @HackerRadioShow @NEETzsche @Nazareno @whiteline i doit's @2600
(DIR) Post #AQHDA9djBYEMX5V0Lo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-12-04T22:14:58.425837Z
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@jeffcliff @HackerRadioShow @Nazareno @Blak_Garden_Gnome @whiteline I think so. I haven't touched 2600 in well over a year now because I wanted to listen to their podcast for some sort of hacking related topic and they didn't really have anything like that. Instead they gave me a COVID sermon. You know, like implying anybody is changing their mind on if getting covax is a good idea, even in mid 2021. It was ridiculous and I left irritated.
(DIR) Post #AQHGwLkVlXBdqsLRo0 by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-12-04T22:56:58.237157Z
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Years ago? They rewrite history on a weekly basis, sometimes even as it happens
(DIR) Post #AQHGwMCs45s7Gpc60e by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-12-04T22:57:17.386457Z
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True. :/
(DIR) Post #AQThLRWeM5XziC0SZM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-12-10T22:49:42.994424Z
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@Nazareno 1 week later; ukraine is still not done