Post AQ97sMLHAKHdgFssnA by RedNirgal@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AQ6sMNkeVG6L9k7zsm by RedNirgal@mastodon.social
2022-11-29T22:31:18Z
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Very interesting.Especially when the census is about a country which only a few decades ago was a global empire.England and Wales now minority Christian countries, census revealshttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/29/leicester-and-birmingham-are-uk-first-minority-majority-cities-census-reveals?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
(DIR) Post #AQ7qYvwvB0RPwZgSsS by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T09:10:38Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgal I wasn't sure if I should post a reply here because I won't have time to interact today, but I saw this and really think the views you express need to be challenged.The decline in people declaring themselved Christian had nothing to do with Islam or Muslim people in the UK. People who identified as Christian previously stopped identifying as such. That's all. It became a talking point for the far right yesterday & they tried to link this to Islam and 'multiculuralism.
(DIR) Post #AQ7qYyUJjoLLojKAD2 by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T09:25:56Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgalSome of your points are what the far right has been saying for years: e.g. the 'right to offend', which of course ignores hierarchies of power & racism in the UK. Extremism: no idea about statistics, but how do you define it? There's a surge, in the US & elsewhere, of far right attacks, often claiming to defend Christianity against minority populations.The 'rape gangs': that framing was far right & rooted in racism, specifically anti-Muslim racismhttps://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
(DIR) Post #AQ8TQDjdZoQ8iAJ4l6 by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T17:02:59Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgal Because the 'mockery' - or offensive statements in general - is more often than not addressed at groups that are minoritised or socially marginalised, & already face discrimination & racism in the UK. When the far right (and not only) defend their right to make such statements, they in essence want to be free to make racist, homophobic, transphobic statements etc. It's not the same as mocking people in positions of power or privilege & reproduces social hierarchies.
(DIR) Post #AQ8VQlScNz5HDXjWJU by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T17:14:12Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgal As for the questions re: framing: a quick search online comes up with plenty of examples:https://www1.cbn.com/content/easy-meat-britains-muslim-rape-gang-coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3th9uEGnvshttps://fullfact.org/online/starmer-muslim-grooming-prosecution-crime/
(DIR) Post #AQ8WGMYwCXvf3WIEnQ by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T17:27:24Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgal Yes, it's always others who are subjected to multiple forms of violence that have to 'deal with it'. Not for you those perpetrating it to question the harm they might to do to others. Or what consequences what they say or do has on others. I'm not going to continue the conversation.
(DIR) Post #AQ8WzjLOLZWqk6adiy by lk2015r@mastodon.online
2022-11-30T17:30:47Z
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@corfiot @RedNirgal Just posting this for info,, maybe you'll understand some of the issues underlying your question.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/19/home-office-report-grooming-gangs-not-muslim
(DIR) Post #AQ97sMLHAKHdgFssnA by RedNirgal@mastodon.social
2022-12-01T00:36:20Z
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@lk2015r, I have the impression that @Corfiot either deleted their posts or somehow hide them from me, because I can see your posts (LenaK) but I can't see any of them (Corfiot).Any chance you can tell me what was said?
(DIR) Post #AQ9EaXVNcf3ali3nOa by RedNirgal@kafeneio.social
2022-12-01T01:24:34Z
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@corfiot, you use far-right rhetoric. I don't know if you are a far-right person, but your arguments are certainly the bread-and-butter of the fascists/racists.The census has nothing to do with what you mention, but you use it to point to a direction which doesn't help in any way to analyse the results of it. @lk2015r @RedNirgal@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #AQ9EaY7fKJgKgRyN4S by RedNirgal@kafeneio.social
2022-12-01T01:25:03Z
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@corfiotAlso if you are really interested, you can check what systemic racism is and how powerful it is in every Western/Christian country, and why is not the same when a white person expresses "freely" their opinion and when a minority member does the same, just by readingWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33606119-why-i-m-no-longer-talking-to-white-people-about-race @lk2015r @RedNirgal@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #AQ9EacemT8Y0kJUsF6 by RedNirgal@kafeneio.social
2022-12-01T01:25:12Z
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@corfiotAndNatives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36352480-natives @lk2015r @RedNirgal@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #AQAmhA6AdZhhniYf2G by RedNirgal@kafeneio.social
2022-12-01T19:47:37Z
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@corfiot, Mastodon, like every microblogging platform is not very inviting for a long discussion in depth, but I will make this final remark (on my behalf at least):We didn't brought up racism, we just answered to your underlying racist comment about the census result. Because it is racism (discrimination/bias) when you characterise in a certain way members of a racial, ethnic, religious, etc group.And you did that in your very first comment under my post about the census@lk2015r @RedNirgal@mastodon.social