Post AQ8j65N2Z3PEFD9rAO by discordian@nerdculture.de
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(DIR) Post #AQ8fWJyWUJNZFgwdc0 by woozle@toot.cat
2022-11-30T15:52:50Z
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Acid test for any social network or fedi instance:If you say "fuck you" to a Nazi, who gets banned?
(DIR) Post #AQ8glprGKXDEQuVhXE by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T19:34:15.444Z
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@woozle@toot.cat Nobody?
(DIR) Post #AQ8gxghmBdLfWKj0IC by woozle@toot.cat
2022-11-30T19:34:56Z
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@SuperDicq That's the "seems fair and open-minded, but actually really bad policy" choice.
(DIR) Post #AQ8gxhLpmhOJWZSzjM by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T19:36:22.816Z
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@woozle@toot.cat What's bad about this policy?
(DIR) Post #AQ8haXpX7JwHHzsiKu by woozle@toot.cat
2022-11-30T19:39:58Z
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@SuperDicq It results in the continued presence of a Nazi.
(DIR) Post #AQ8haYIFOYuKj3Je5o by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T19:43:22.034Z
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@woozle@toot.cat As soon as the nazi says anything hateful or calls for violence they are banned.
(DIR) Post #AQ8hf3TvNb1cc3vPWq by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T19:44:18.332361Z
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Fuck you, Nazi
(DIR) Post #AQ8hnYz08u1Ad3WAdM by zleap@qoto.org
2022-11-30T19:45:46Z
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@woozle Maybe it is best to not say anything to them, just block / mute them so they can't use what you say to further their cause / arguments.
(DIR) Post #AQ8hqQgNSYsvkqAoJk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T19:46:22.258246Z
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It’s literally some spinster with her cats. Opinion discarded.
(DIR) Post #AQ8iVmM9mWC6qcQrlw by sanctionedanya@toots.matapacos.dog
2022-11-30T19:53:47Z
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@zleap @woozle nowt wrong with hurting nazi feelings
(DIR) Post #AQ8iwu4FDhHUa8zJNA by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T19:58:40.134Z
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social Edgelord who hopes people will see him as an intellectual by identifying with a philosopher. Opinion discarded.Let's not resort to ad hominem.
(DIR) Post #AQ8izM97nLV6FIRM5A by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T19:59:10.539807Z
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Cope.
(DIR) Post #AQ8j315m10hQ6dcNsG by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-11-30T19:58:55.125112Z
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I thought y'all were about diversity of opinion :devilish:
(DIR) Post #AQ8j644DPYkmCXLJBY by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-11-30T20:00:20.734837Z
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Ideally, neither.Outside of spamming or illegal content, merely expressing your displeasure with someone should not warrant a ban by your friendly local moderation staff.
(DIR) Post #AQ8j65N2Z3PEFD9rAO by discordian@nerdculture.de
2022-11-30T19:56:37Z
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@SuperDicq @woozle it's a nazi, their opinions are violent in nature. The fact that you know the person is a nazi is because they said nazi shit
(DIR) Post #AQ8j65zKGi1y9x4QqG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T20:00:19.573Z
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@discordian@nerdculture.de @woozle@toot.cat If that was the case they would've already been banned and you couldn't say "fuck you" to them.
(DIR) Post #AQ8j7CTpcIpwaFrkpc by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T20:00:36.318203Z
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@woozle @SuperDicq On DRC, neither user gets banned, but the anti-Nazi cuck probably ends up bullied off the instance :smug6:
(DIR) Post #AQ8jCKjQMiG9chbhHk by zleap@qoto.org
2022-11-30T20:01:31Z
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@sanctionedanya @woozle I understand that.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jHximpW7RzmzcFE by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T20:02:32.461910Z
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It’s @NiggaCat
(DIR) Post #AQ8jIb7cL89eC5uUrY by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-30T20:02:34.724Z
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social Seethe.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jNrN9LeHa2fgVKi by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-30T20:03:35Z
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@woozle does saying "fuck you" to someone get them banned?
(DIR) Post #AQ8jOPbW4jycD4fSRk by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T20:03:42.677702Z
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So anyway, this tranny started with an ad hominem and so it’s reasnoable to blow him off with an ad hominem. Thanks for playing, bitch nigga.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jWVPqLqv2YF4Dwm by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-30T20:05:10Z
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@SuperDicq @NEETzsche mold 😋
(DIR) Post #AQ8jWYik42oonivrJw by dj@rojogato.com
2022-11-30T20:05:07.747930Z
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@NEETzsche @SuperDicq @woozle It's not the cats fault the caretaker is a faggot.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jZqFNMGXe1ilHs0 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T20:05:47.640533Z
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@woozle Nobody, but the whiny antifa faggot gets pointed and laughed at.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jaDuHOLvXPF4mJs by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2022-11-30T20:05:50.348697Z
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I agree.
(DIR) Post #AQ8jlBTAnGHx25cjTc by dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-30T20:07:31.587876Z
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pretty much this
(DIR) Post #AQ8jtzccDEGUtUEyzw by Admin@suedi.club
2022-11-30T18:49:03Z
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@woozle the nätzi!
(DIR) Post #AQ8ju09wDKv6YppawC by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T20:09:23.688100Z
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@Admin @woozle "Nazi" is a meaningless term anyways. All it means is "scary badthinker." Almost nobody in far-right circles is particularly interested in "muh racial hierarchy," they just want to be free of hostile and parasitic entities.
(DIR) Post #AQ8k05zNS74cNXnUxM by rlier23@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T20:10:32.277741Z
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@ArdainianRight @woozle Nobody gets banned for saying "fuck nazis"Now if you say shit like TOTAL NIGGER DEATH then you're as good as gone in most social media :shrug: Why are the npcs larping again as revolutionaries?Shits cringe yo
(DIR) Post #AQ8k1C2ESVlHQ5ejqa by ImperialAgent@mugicha.club
2022-11-30T20:10:43.771690Z
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The jew.
(DIR) Post #AQ8kqcAH4KRrEDwAzI by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2022-11-30T20:19:46.015Z
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@woozle@toot.cat @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo banning it just closes your eyes to it, if you want something to happen you need interaction and change, banning, silencing and defederating people is the opposite of that.
(DIR) Post #AQ8loi2eLaH0pZ1hOy by MangoRanch@poa.st
2022-11-30T20:30:53.662741Z
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@woozle @SuperDicq LMFAO. You think people stop existing when they're banned on social media?
(DIR) Post #AQ8mxYOTgfNpT719Bg by make_it_so_Number1@poa.st
2022-11-30T20:35:00.095601Z
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@MangoRanch @woozle @SuperDicq They probably do. Why else do you think they were so surprised to find the people they hounded off of Twitter were there to greet them when they fled to the Fediverse the moment it looked like Musk was taking away their safe space?
(DIR) Post #AQ8qvg60Tnpiarjs12 by dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-30T20:08:21.237088Z
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HALE HORTLER
(DIR) Post #AQ8zE6B52ukSKZPGvA by woozle@toot.cat
2022-11-30T20:26:07Z
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@sarvoPunching Nazis is both interactional and transformative: one's fist interacts with their nose, and causes a change in that their nose is now painful.It is hoped that this will help shift the framing of the discussion towards not going around advocating killing people for no good reason, but of course I'm always open for further interaction in this regard. 🍿
(DIR) Post #AQ8zE6gz8IGjvWKkeO by elnach@novoa.nagoya
2022-11-30T23:01:03.043Z
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@woozle@toot.cat @sarvo@novoa.nagoya >It is hoped that this will help shift the framing of the discussion towards not going around advocating killing people for no good reasonPunching Nazis is both interactional and transformative: one's fist interacts with their nose, and causes a change in that their nose is now painful.
(DIR) Post #AQ8zE7JcodB3rMPbsW by woozle@toot.cat
2022-11-30T22:45:00Z
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@sarvo To be fair, I escalated to "punching" (I was reading another thread where that was brought up) while you were still just talking about defederating/blocking, which is what I originally posted about.So let me answer what you actually said.The thing is, that kind of ideology does not respect facts and evidence. You can't have a reasoned debate with someone whose goal is to use manipulative tactics to fool others into going along with them....and tolerating their presence just gives them more opportunity to use those tactics.
(DIR) Post #AQ91GlFtUViKDb3VC4 by zoomgoboom@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T23:24:01.171469Z
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@woozle You're not revolutionary when you have the government and corporations behind you. What you are is someone who hasn't been touched below the belt since Jesus ignored you when he was healing the sick and wounded.
(DIR) Post #AQ91K65QUvKvh4kZ7I by zoomgoboom@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-30T23:24:38.331799Z
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@NEETzsche this woman could be used to convert lesbians. @SuperDicq @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ99znqDWU1iu229su by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-01T01:01:46Z
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@discordian @SuperDicq @woozle The numter of legit Nazis on the fediverse can be counted with one hand, unless you're looking for extremist instances, and I've only ever known of one of those which was so cartoonishly dense I couldn't take it seriously. If you're seeing Nazis everywhere, they may not be the problem.
(DIR) Post #AQ9A8Wqy3L50p1XtfE by woozle@toot.cat
2022-12-01T01:03:18Z
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@sullybiker @discordian @SuperDicq I agree with your assessment.I think a lot of people -- especially recent Twitspace refugees -- needed to hear it, though.
(DIR) Post #AQ9AGSUe9BYxcGt1BA by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-12-01T01:04:44.565Z
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@sullybiker@sully.site @discordian@nerdculture.de @woozle@toot.cat I do agree that there's a large difference between online Nazi edgelord larpers and real actual Nazis that act upon this ideology in real life. I also understand why a lot of people don't wish to see these larpers on their timeline and especially not in their mentions if they are part of a minority.
(DIR) Post #AQ9B2RasnJFCj7gVQu by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-01T01:13:26Z
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@SuperDicq @woozle @discordian There's a certain subculture that says they rock free speech but what they mean is they like to use racial slurs because they know it gets a reaction. This is an extremely hopeless and pointless existence, but they have *always* been around. They're mostly just a nuisance.
(DIR) Post #AQ9bT0qmvoYsPVSC5g by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:09:35.057994Z
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@woozle nobody, but the Nazis will think you're an idiot and will be right
(DIR) Post #AQ9bWy43ERkGvaXkHI by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:10:17.912751Z
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@ChristiJunior That's the best outcome@SuperDicq @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9baLUAbnp2R7N3VQ by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:10:54.495277Z
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@NEETzsche Her? I'm not convinced@SuperDicq @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9bamtGiawRQmJysK by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:11:01.143134Z
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@Leyonhjelm @woozle those guys were the first to block our instance, so my hypothesis: the toot cat loser says "fuck you" to a nazi AND then fediblocks the instance
(DIR) Post #AQ9bg0V1Y23z5PTC4G by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:11:56.047377Z
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@lina I'm probably already instance blocked, but I don't give a shit@woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9bkGC18riwuubk5w by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:12:44.503061Z
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@Leyonhjelm @woozle fba's giving me a 504 rn, but i think it's a given
(DIR) Post #AQ9bn61TPVrkFB1o5w by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:13:12.848079Z
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@lina Same, but I think they were on my list of blockers@woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9btMF21TFoHaM760 by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:14:22.155419Z
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@Leyonhjelm @woozle you bet, i'll check once it's up again, also @mint be aware that it's down rn
(DIR) Post #AQ9bzAdG6AXU0ySXq4 by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:15:21.388709Z
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@Jackuu @Leyonhjelm @woozle oh trust me, it's actually a pretty accurate termmisos is greek for HATE, so transmisia is tranny hatred, they outright admit that you're not afraid
(DIR) Post #AQ9c4N8b1yvuFPb7OC by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-12-01T06:14:38.823704Z
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damn, you right, they blocked us day fuckin one lmaotf is "transmisia" use real words you fuckin clowns
(DIR) Post #AQ9c8bFkUaKXBSxWue by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:17:05.652348Z
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@lina I don't hate them, I just think they're insane and should be locked away never to be seen or heard from again.@Jackuu @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9c8xTJsoG25vTg7U by Jackuu@beefyboys.win
2022-12-01T06:16:30.085971Z
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imagine tryharding to come up with some term like this though
(DIR) Post #AQ9cDVlUKALlbw9Aae by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:18:00.842330Z
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@Jackuu @Leyonhjelm @woozle i'm a-okay with it, if anything it shows that they can't even cope that you're secretly afraid of em and completely makes them look like losers
(DIR) Post #AQ9cEvVw4iCJlBXzZA by D00B@seal.cafe
2022-12-01T06:18:15.187070Z
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@Leyonhjelm @Jackuu @lina @woozle speak for yourself I hate them with perfect hatred
(DIR) Post #AQ9cGeOAiWZ5E5jnou by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:18:35.815268Z
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@Leyonhjelm @Jackuu @woozle i say send em as fodder for human experimentation so there's actual use for them
(DIR) Post #AQ9cVglSAQxwwBnYVE by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:21:16.246595Z
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@lina I'm unconvinced this would be a good equivalent of human for the tests. Especially if they've damaged themselves with artificial hormones and surgeries@Jackuu @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9clzfNeppKC7jTto by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:24:14.879411Z
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@Leyonhjelm @Jackuu @woozle there'll be a lot of people who had their hormones messed up by microplastics and other shit, you could use the trannies to find ways to fix the imbalancesnot to mention that plain homosexuals are gonna be used for that too, everyone who's a faggot will be sent as fodder, and if not suitable enough - into the oven
(DIR) Post #AQ9cuni5TqPpidCLvE by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T06:25:48.229187Z
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@lina To put it another way, if you did, medically, to a pig or cow what they do to trannies for a couple of years, I think it would be immoral the sell its flesh as pork or beef in the market.@Jackuu @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQ9czJs1qojscY0FI8 by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:26:39.480833Z
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@Leyonhjelm @Jackuu @woozle it's equivalent to lacing the meat with soy to skimp out on costs, so yeah
(DIR) Post #AQ9eLwh8HehNMCG8H2 by Sir_Ivissia@chudbuds.lol
2022-12-01T06:41:11.939493Z
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Dunno about the States, but you tried that on a pig or a cow here you'd be looking at a heavy fine and possibly a couple years inside for animal cruelty.
(DIR) Post #AQ9eLx6Im4pccG2EVM by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T06:41:57.889901Z
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@Sir_Ivissia @Jackuu @Leyonhjelm @woozle not unless you make so much money off that so you can pay off the feds on that
(DIR) Post #AQ9hnYsOjV3xSNO8Yq by mint@ryona.agency
2022-12-01T07:19:29.020153Z
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@lina @Leyonhjelm @woozle Restarted, investigating.
(DIR) Post #AQ9hsF4pm3K7UvRACu by lina@eientei.org
2022-12-01T07:21:24.984475Z
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@mint @Leyonhjelm @woozle works now
(DIR) Post #AQACbnBsmg3ixJN0gy by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-12-01T13:05:44.005672Z
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@Sir_Ivissia The castration would carry no penalty, and the hormones wouldn't be questioned most likely. Giving the animal implants or zippertits might, but odds of actual trouble would be super low@Jackuu @lina @woozle
(DIR) Post #AQCWUnty82qyX7r8DI by potatogunkelly@hachyderm.io
2022-12-02T15:57:57Z
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@sullybiker @SuperDicq @woozle @discordian and this one too
(DIR) Post #AQCZIpd2BMXKHCuxqS by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:29:29Z
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@potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @woozle @discordian Well done, you
(DIR) Post #AQCZRapCajuWyBmqhM by woozle@toot.cat
2022-12-02T16:31:00Z
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Not sure what @potatogunkelly is saying, here...@sullybiker @SuperDicq @discordian
(DIR) Post #AQCZVZxvjCehSmlo5w by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:31:46Z
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@woozle @potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @discordian If I read it right we're being blocked because of 'bad opinions'.
(DIR) Post #AQCZyetgTJZP9jeNIO by potatogunkelly@hachyderm.io
2022-12-02T16:33:23Z
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@woozle @sullybiker @SuperDicq @discordian sorry. Bad at threading. I’m saying “let Nazis stay as long as they are polite” is a position unworthy of respect, and anyone holding that opinion isn’t anyone whose other opinions I care about
(DIR) Post #AQCZyfJutmYOT5vKBU by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:37:01Z
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@potatogunkelly @woozle @SuperDicq @discordian I've no problem with the opinion here, it is up the invidual where their line is. That being said I've not actually encountered this scenario. Most of the trolls provoke blocks anyway.
(DIR) Post #AQCaSEfaY61eV7A0wq by woozle@toot.cat
2022-12-02T16:34:31Z
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@potatogunkelly I don't think that's what @sullybiker was actually saying, though I can see how it could be read that way.I agree with what you're saying, tho.@SuperDicq @discordian
(DIR) Post #AQCaSF7EtI8xss662y by potatogunkelly@hachyderm.io
2022-12-02T16:39:12Z
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@woozle @sullybiker @SuperDicq @discordian ah, sorry, I muted two of the participants. One was the “let them stay if they are chill” and the other was “you’re seeing Nazis everywhere” and I am super cool with never hearing any opinions from either of those camps again :D
(DIR) Post #AQCaSFX7L4qNB8ClNo by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:42:22Z
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@potatogunkelly @woozle @SuperDicq @discordian You care enough to be incredibly dreary about it.
(DIR) Post #AQCaSHhpGEb7uvELLs by potatogunkelly@hachyderm.io
2022-12-02T16:40:46Z
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@woozle @sullybiker @SuperDicq @discordian I don’t remember which was which but, fortunately, I also super don’t care
(DIR) Post #AQCamg86ACezSRFAn2 by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:46:04Z
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@woozle @potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @discordian Classic bad faith actor, imho
(DIR) Post #AQCbfbvRUoK2LVW9w0 by sullybiker@sully.site
2022-12-02T16:55:59Z
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@woozle @potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @discordian To be clear, that wasn't what I said, and it wasn't what SuperDicq said either, but when someone rolls in out of nowhere and starts yammering on about who they're not listening to, cherry picking and engaging in Twitter-esque behavior, I am confident tin assuming that person is a waste of time.
(DIR) Post #AQCbggXfoi7SxBucgi by woozle@toot.cat
2022-12-02T16:56:05Z
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@potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @discordian I agree with "you see Nazis everywhere" being a problematic take. It assumes things I didn't say in the original post, and it's an appeal to "you're being too emotional" / tone-policing.There was certainly a comment or two (maybe not in this branch of the thread) advocating to "let them stay as long as they don't advocate violence", which I believe I dealt with individually (Naziism is advocating violence, you can't be one without the other).I think @sullybiker was just noting that some of them have more loyalty to the lulz than to actually hurting people -- but that doesn't imply they should be allowed on that basis; the effects are the same.
(DIR) Post #AQCbvKoOtL17u0inp2 by woozle@toot.cat
2022-12-02T16:58:49Z
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@sullybiker @potatogunkelly @SuperDicq @discordian For now, I have a general policy of assuming TwitspaceTrauma (curable) when I see bad behavior, and engaging as sympathetically as possible as long as the person seems to be willing to listen.