Post AQ6cFe8jZgOagr9sUS by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
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(DIR) Post #AQ6YtrTszZShpkyMLo by catvalente@mastodon.world
2022-11-28T16:03:58Z
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Mastodon, holy shit. You can’t quote-tweet (quote-mast?) AND there’s no dedicated column for mentions so I have to click individual posts and scroll to see replies?Those are some serious barriers to using this site.
(DIR) Post #AQ6Yv6JFLVhg73aRxQ by vitruvianmeeple@dice.camp
2022-11-28T16:07:31Z
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@catvalente The lack of quote-tweeting was a conscious choice. QTing on Twitter lends itself to the quoter interacting with THEIR audience, rather than the person who originally posted it. It's often used as a way to "reply" to a post in a negative manner without making that as obvious to the OP, or to later "I didn't mean anything, I was just saying..." type justifications.By replying publicly, you're still drawing the post to your readers' attention while interacting with the OP.
(DIR) Post #AQ6Yv6kXi1XPTiMFVI by catvalente@mastodon.world
2022-11-28T16:08:51Z
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@vitruvianmeeple it also provides context, though. Especially with threads, that’s vital.
(DIR) Post #AQ6Yv77aKLyAdB8eQ4 by vidar@m.galaxybound.com
2022-11-28T23:34:16Z
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@catvalente @vitruvianmeeple It'd be easy to fix by injecting some JS via a browser extension, for the web anyway, or building into one of the multiple alternative frontends.I agree it's annoying, and just a question of time before support for it becomes a thing.After all just pasting the url to a tweet was the old-school Twitter way too...
(DIR) Post #AQ6Z8o43ycc5a71KIi by Alex@wreck.rocks
2022-11-29T18:59:26.025322Z
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@vitruvianmeeple @catvalente Pleroma and Soapbox have quotetweets and they're almost exclusively used this way, and have been nothing but a negative experience on fedi imo. They also break reply chains in a very annoying way, because it's impossible to see quotetweets of a post from the original post - it's a one way thing
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZRaOX1ccAgfY6oC by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
2022-11-29T19:02:47.492976Z
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@vidar @catvalente @vitruvianmeeple Eugen doesn't care about you, or making a software people can enjoy using.You can always run an instance with Pleroma, I'm running this instance on an old Sun workstation from 2006.https://docs.pleroma.social have fun.
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZZ7tAtPbqawTfuK by vidar@m.galaxybound.com
2022-11-29T09:14:25Z
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@mastodonmigration @catvalente @vitruvianmeeple I've been here on other accounts long enough to know that to me this is broken. It's a bit insulting to get told I don't know what is broken to me.No. I don't like the lack of QT's.
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZZ8ILNpk5r0Fm8e by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
2022-11-29T19:04:07.395492Z
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@vidar @mastodonmigration @catvalente @vitruvianmeeple There's an interesting Mastodon/Pleroma frontend called Soapbox that has those.https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/soapbox
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZinwntD1Pdwn2rg by catvalente@mastodon.world
2022-11-29T15:10:09Z
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@vidar @mastodonmigration @vitruvianmeeple Vidar, I found that message rude and it wasn’t even directed at me. I’m sorry, it sucks to feel condescended to.
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZioxC9EvelRys76 by vidar@m.galaxybound.com
2022-11-29T19:00:59Z
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@mastodonmigration @catvalente @vitruvianmeeple So had to add one more thing: Note that you effectively QT'd in this comment. In the time I've been here, ironically, a large proportion of instances of this I've seen have been in discussion about QT's.This is all a QT used to be on Twitter. The "modern" behaviour was *just* to add a special notification (that doesn't matter to me), and to use a special preview card/chip that includes the full post instead of just a part.3/3
(DIR) Post #AQ6ZipMicLLU2bvFtg by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-11-29T19:05:50.705440Z
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the issue is not the software. the issue is getting the fragmented community to adopt it when there are subgroups that do not want this feature.
(DIR) Post #AQ6aOxU8opHtO1U46S by vidar@m.galaxybound.com
2022-11-29T19:08:32Z
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@fluffy @vitruvianmeeple @mastodonmigration @catvalente The thing is, it doesn't matter. QT on Twitter used to be just putting a link to a tweet (and that still works to create a QT).As such it degrades perfectly - those who don't want it will just see a link to the post and have to click through. Those of us who want it will see the link expanded.If very few people want it, it'd lessen the value a bit, but people *already* do it old-school here anyway.
(DIR) Post #AQ6aSyXyoRJFq2C99k by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-11-29T19:14:13.357123Z
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@vidar @vitruvianmeeple @mastodonmigration @catvalente i suspect that you will still get a lot of hate, even if you do it like this.still, i wish you luck. it's a feature many ordinary and good people want.
(DIR) Post #AQ6aZN2qdvIVYRgOFU by vidar@m.galaxybound.com
2022-11-29T19:05:29Z
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@pawlicker @vitruvianmeeple @catvalente @mastodonmigration Thanks, that's useful. I'll have a look and see if it fits my use. Even if it dosn't, "borrowing" the QT support might be a nice shortcut.
(DIR) Post #AQ6aZNemMtdfS5QgN6 by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
2022-11-29T19:15:23.108864Z
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@vidar @vitruvianmeeple @catvalente @mastodonmigration Yep and just like how there's mastodon forks like glitch-social or hometown, you can easily make a soapbox fork. There's some soapbox fork for example for some guy's instance to allow it to work better with Akkoma (a Pleroma fork) and with modifications for his own site. Rebased is also another Pleroma fork as well. There's also at least two Misskey forks such as FoundKey and Calckey. This is the cool part about the AGPL license used on the fedi. Nobody "owns" the software. Even if you hate the developer, you can fork it and fix features the developer removed for example or add in ones he won't add. While Soapbox did have a stigma due to the people who initially ran instances with it, I know a friend who is running a pro LGBT furry instance with it for example and I know someone else who is trans trying to run an art instance with it. As long as you make sure to specify in your rules exactly what your views are, you'll be fine running one with it blocklist wise. The other thing with Pleroma and it's forks and other fedi software, is they are a lot less resource heavy than Mastodon is IMO.https://gist.github.com/Gargron/aa9341a49dc91d5a721019d9e0c9fd11Recently there was a semi viral post as well about how a Mastodon instance was having to spend 800 Euro a month to be hosted for a 15k user instance, and then SDF needed excessive high-end hardware to run a 50k user instance. https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@aras/109375786255688867
(DIR) Post #AQ6anqHkizCYIQYSW0 by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
2022-11-29T19:18:00.744169Z
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@vidar @catvalente @mastodonmigration @vitruvianmeeple The other thing I'd mention is to change the user agent if you run a Pleroma instance. You can do this easily in settings, and this is because some instances run by sysadmins new to the fedi automatically began to block Pleroma instances in the nginx config because of some harassing instances running it. My friend running the furry server had this issue as well. His fix was to change the user agent to what he called his fork and suddenly he found himself able to federate with instances that had issues federating with Pleroma.
(DIR) Post #AQ6bDJfQcXM0f6mA8e by laincel@clubcyberia.co
2022-11-29T19:15:52.500291Z
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@catvalente I think god should kill you
(DIR) Post #AQ6btj9oEulHseD2zQ by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-29T19:30:12.686Z
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@pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net Fediverse instances should never be that large. It should be taxing and extremely expensive to run single instances that large. That's the entire point of the fediverse---decentealized hosting, decentralized instances, decentralized control.@vidar@m.galaxybound.com @vitruvianmeeple@dice.camp @catvalente@mastodon.world @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
(DIR) Post #AQ6cFe8jZgOagr9sUS by pawlicker@pawlicker.ddns.net
2022-11-29T19:34:15.562899Z
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@kino @mastodonmigration @catvalente @vidar @vitruvianmeeple >looks at poast and masto socialYep, running a centralized fediverse instance is truly a bad idea.