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(DIR) Post #AQ1aUzlqGM2GQDqHWC by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:19:30Z
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Even if you don’t care about animal feelings, when you purchase meat it must have been slaughtered, and slaughterhouse workers suffer some of the worse PTSD and mental health conditions from working in a horrible environment killing animals all day. “violence against animals has been linked to psychological health problems in humans”The only way to stop this violence is to go #vegan - do it for humans if not for animals!
(DIR) Post #AQ1aV0M05uxWEMl9sW by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:19:30Z
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The same is true for milk, cheese, eggs - none of those products are possible without animal cruelty and slaughter. The baby calves are slaughtered soon after birth, to make veal. The cows who stop producing milk are turned into mincemeat. The hens that can no longer lay are killed for KFC. And millions of male baby chicks are put into meat grinders 🐣The fishing industry employs actual slaves, and is a horror show of its own. The only way to opt out is to go #vegan
(DIR) Post #AQ1aV0rYCcCDoDWM3U by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st
2022-11-27T09:21:05.088589Z
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@shauny chimken is delicious
(DIR) Post #AQ1aZDYQxOzCKVaGzg by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st
2022-11-27T09:21:51.489732Z
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@shauny a74f96425b199269247bdf49365657e69f2e35819fa8c4a50028e3991da42f1b.png
(DIR) Post #AQ1ad9qGhYETyTnxfU by eee@poa.st
2022-11-27T09:22:34.139155Z
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@shauny @shauny you're vegan btw
(DIR) Post #AQ1ae3tOJ80LoNhFJI by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:22:20Z
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating incredible contribution, well done 👏
(DIR) Post #AQ1ae4hjHyGqKVFRlw by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st
2022-11-27T09:22:43.866381Z
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@shauny Thank you for your agreement that chicken is yummy.
(DIR) Post #AQ1asu4X6LZ5hLz8PA by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:23:32Z
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating is it worth the animal suffering, the human suffering, the planet-killing effects of climate change, the pollution runoff into our rivers?
(DIR) Post #AQ1asunYOxZrwz35Zw by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st
2022-11-27T09:25:24.734777Z
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@shauny Relative to how much of those things it produces: yes.It's not wrong to point out that agricultural runoff needs to be mitigated, but that's a problem regardless of what you need to farm.
(DIR) Post #AQ1b1cgT7SliNNt3VQ by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T09:26:59.617158Z
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“Slaughterhouse workers suffer some of the worst PTSD and mental health conditions…”Citation pls
(DIR) Post #AQ1bR5jwE8l3jOecdM by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:28:18Z
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@LexiconDevil it’s such an obvious and well-documented fact I didn’t think I’d need to cite it. Google it, you’ll find hundreds of results and articles. Or start here Confessions of a slaughterhouse worker https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986683
(DIR) Post #AQ1bR6K63hgJXXZUzg by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:28:39Z
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@LexiconDevil https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4841092/
(DIR) Post #AQ1bR6nsGzV71tVHPM by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T09:31:35.684334Z
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“The study was conducted in a South African commercial abattoir setting. Thirteen slaughterfloor employees and two managers of the slaughterfloor section participated in unstructured interviews.”Nice sample size
(DIR) Post #AQ1bs8EN4ex3H7maky by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:32:26Z
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@LexiconDevil there are many studies. Read the whole article. Would you like to volunteer working in a slaughterhouse then? Would you send your children to work there?
(DIR) Post #AQ1bs8exToDcbaDpCK by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T09:36:28.952314Z
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I’m simply pointing out that your assertion that slaughterhouse workers suffer from a higher rate of PTSD and other mental illnesses is shaky at best. Would I want to work in one? No, but somebody has too. Thinking that everybody is going to adopt a vegan lifestyle is silly lol
(DIR) Post #AQ1cpTeT4ip8nRHshs by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:40:37Z
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@LexiconDevil “somebody has to do it”. No. Eating meat and other animal products is a choice, it’s not required for health, and it’s vastly inefficient compared to eating plant proteins. 80% of global agricultural land is used for livestock but it only products 20% of the calories. Vegan proteins use less land, less water, make less pollution, and are linked to improved health outcomes - lower rates of heart disease and cancer. It’s a no-brainer.
(DIR) Post #AQ1cpU7XKe4mFat612 by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T09:47:09.570518Z
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I’m talking pragmatically. How would you realistically achieve this? Vegans are awful at disseminating their ideas without sounding like pretentious assholes. Working on that would be a good first start
(DIR) Post #AQ1dzqTz93XGSHtMoq by DerLeere@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:00:16.597671Z
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@shauny beat it loser
(DIR) Post #AQ1eS19V4MBbeekAvw by Halo@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:05:18.010649Z
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@DerLeere @shauny :thumbs_up:
(DIR) Post #AQ1f53U4KkYqBEylyS by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:12:12.497707Z
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@shauny You can get PTSD from any job requiring sanitation and sewage toobut someone has to do it
(DIR) Post #AQ1fB8ywnyGeyBKFwe by Cara@miruku.cafe
2022-11-27T09:54:28.522Z
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@shauny@veganism.social that's among the weakest appeals for veganism I've heard yet, you do realize none of the people there are slaves, right? they can choose to stop putting themselves in those places if they believe the compensation isn't worth it...
(DIR) Post #AQ1fXtmJUxYMTbGaeG by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:04:15Z
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@LexiconDevil well animal agriculture farms need to switch to producing vegan proteins - beans, legumes, etc. As we’d need far less, most would shut down. They could get other jobs. I’m not an expert in farm management but it can be done. Many farmers have already switched from making dairy milk to plant milk for example. There are programs to help them. https://ensia.com/features/plant-milk-dairy-soy-almond-rice-oat-hemp-farmers/
(DIR) Post #AQ1fXu42R3jPMZYkHA by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:17:37.693437Z
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>they could get other jobs Your idea would not work for this exact reason. If agriculture farms are switching their entire process for how they produce their product, then there needs to be some kind of incentive for them.Laying off employees and telling them to “figure it out” because you’re “saving the animals” is not a great idea for business.
(DIR) Post #AQ1fk1iPoXGCZHE5ya by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:13:47Z
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@ehhh the point is no-one HAS to eat meat or dairy. There are alternatives which are cheap and healthy. “Vegan Diet 'Appropriate for All Stages of the Life Cycle' Says Largest Group of Nutritionists”https://www.organicauthority.com/buzz-news/vegan-diet-appropriate-for-all-stages-of-the-life-cycle-says-largest-group-of-nutritionists
(DIR) Post #AQ1fk29iB35vvvztWS by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:19:46.612400Z
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@shauny >no-one has to eat meat or dairy.debatable.>There are alternatives which are cheap and healthy.Prob tastes like shit(((nutritionists))) said that? sounds like they're just enforcing a globohomo agenda tbh. humans are omnivores though so like... yeah if you wanna be weak and meek (which is what globalists want) by cutting out half of the food available to us (while the elites keep their animal farms) then sure
(DIR) Post #AQ1fxs9i9au2yOb0ds by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:20:57Z
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@ehhh ok now you’re just jumping into conspiracy theories and I don’t have time to argue with all that
(DIR) Post #AQ1fxsaIYkAcIr2F5E by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:22:10.116877Z
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@shauny You can't argue it because it's the truth nor do I expect you to.I'm not telling you to eat meat though.
(DIR) Post #AQ1gDcHwunPmOZxMzA by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:18:57Z
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@LexiconDevil so you were against the printing press, cars replacing horse & cart, the Internet replacing many jobs, etc etc?Or are you only against progress when it affects farmers?
(DIR) Post #AQ1gDcouwDmo2pNhNA by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:25:09.718820Z
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It’s not progress, it’s regression lmao. Everything is about efficiency, and your line of thinking is not efficient.
(DIR) Post #AQ1gRtF2gFwP1qP2p6 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:23:46Z
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@ehhh “weak and meek”Vegan athletes disagree: https://www.greatveganathletes.com/
(DIR) Post #AQ1gRtoUYSIUnmzM4u by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:27:43.652930Z
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@shauny it's literally easier to achieve that with a good combination of plants and animal.
(DIR) Post #AQ1gkrEKNq80IB74ym by 80085@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:31:10.795959Z
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@shauny @ehhh no-one HAS to be as much of a faggot as you are either but here we are
(DIR) Post #AQ1gwZSyFrDYfpY1b6 by Halo@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:33:11.554042Z
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@80085 @shauny @ehhh that was quick
(DIR) Post #AQ1h20eIcLWEQYRKXg by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:33:50Z
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@Halo @80085 @ehhh ok, reporting your whole server
(DIR) Post #AQ1h218QoJcbw0XOVc by Halo@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:34:11.653094Z
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@shauny @80085 @ehhh suck a cock faggot :doge_laugh:
(DIR) Post #AQ1h5k4WC0kQAlU1yq by Halo@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:34:41.307534Z
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@shauny @80085 @ehhh go back to twitter. i promise you we won't miss "veganism social" on our timelines.
(DIR) Post #AQ1hFPk2dQsU10W9Me by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:26:26Z
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@LexiconDevil do you think it’s efficient that livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world’s supply of calories?
(DIR) Post #AQ1hFQBgycznOlSESm by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:36:42.896372Z
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“The HALF index asks and answers the hypothetical question: if everyone in the world adopted the average diet of country ‘x’, what percentage of the global land area would we need for agriculture?”Good luck getting different cultures all around the world to agree on a similar diet lol
(DIR) Post #AQ1hFQRe1JkwCEuyKO by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:26:45Z
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@LexiconDevil https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-land-by-global-diets
(DIR) Post #AQ1hFRMMcR7t29SGjg by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:28:27Z
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@LexiconDevil do you think it’s efficient that with beef for example, the ratio of protein output versus input (how much we feed the cows) is only 3.8%???https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/protein-efficiency-of-meat-and-dairy-production
(DIR) Post #AQ1hXBu4p7h6JFgj0C by rainignterror1080p@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:39:51.067730Z
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@shauny @ehhh you'll end up malnourished due to lack of protein and you'd have to start eating bugs or taking supplements to make up for it. Being a vegan is retarded
(DIR) Post #AQ1hmXYMc1zHnaqpKS by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:38:50Z
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@LexiconDevil it’s inevitable I’m afraid. We literally can’t support the number of people we have now and also protect the environment. Sooner or later we are going to have to drastically alter our diets. The sooner we do it, the better for the outcome of the planet, and also for the animals and our health.And just because certain countries won’t do it, isn’t a reason for us not toPlant-based diet can fight climate change - UN https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49238749
(DIR) Post #AQ1hmY4cg5n9Pdwabw by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:42:41.858917Z
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It looks like the nasty patty homie. If I had the choice between eating that shit or bugs, I would probably just kill myself 😂
(DIR) Post #AQ1hqDuDbSwW1OpV32 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:42:59.110537Z
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Bunch of literally who's that are hard to find info on until I saw Alex Morgan. She eats a "mostly" vegan diet that she details in interviews and only started in 2017 as an already successful adult athlete as opposed to vegan from childhood. Where are those athletes who went through puberty on a vegan diet?
(DIR) Post #AQ1i1Tv4PAMasAb2HY by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:45:11.888540Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh lmao to who? God you're a fucking retard. Kill yourself.
(DIR) Post #AQ1iIMdCktBLBxI3IO by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:43:48Z
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@LexiconDevil well you’re clever aren’t you.
(DIR) Post #AQ1iIN21Gd20QutryS by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:48:27.173526Z
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*Extremely clever. Ta ta retard. Enjoy your bug diet 👍
(DIR) Post #AQ1is4KII3ZiqRTDCS by 80085@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:54:53.749850Z
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@shauny @Halo @ehhh lol
(DIR) Post #AQ1iuDrtmgTx1BDQXo by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:52:01Z
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@LexiconDevil vegans don’t eat bugs… 🤦🏻♂️
(DIR) Post #AQ1iuEKc3vS0SEeMIi by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:55:17.513840Z
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I can see why someone would be a vegetarian, but adopting a vegan lifestyle is completely retarded
(DIR) Post #AQ1j0XEQhjpWoHlRRo by Saber@shortstackran.ch
2022-11-27T10:56:20.606370Z
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@shauny factory farming is extremely jewish and cruel but you can fight back against this by simply farming chickens and goats indoors. Veganism is a slave diet that stunts endorphin production and makes you meek, compliant, and gay. You're a faggot and a nigger.
(DIR) Post #AQ1jAnSFF8mU1J7SHQ by VersVlees@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T10:53:26.761725Z
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@Kyonko802 @shauny @80085 @Halo @ehhh Well to the twitter trust and safety council that's how it works right? :laugh:
(DIR) Post #AQ1jC8WMP8OFe6gPia by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T10:58:31.613215Z
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@shauny Humans need to eat meat and fish to be healthy. Veganism is not an option.
(DIR) Post #AQ1jbzSYiUp94WEVqS by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:58:47Z
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@LexiconDevil why is it better to be vegetarian? The animals are still suffering all their lives and they are still slaughtered and turned into meat at the end, whether you eat it or not. And stop using the word “retarded” like that it’s rude.
(DIR) Post #AQ1jbzzAlEuahfUYgC by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:03:12.334569Z
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Being a vegetarian is way healthier than being a vegan.>stop using “retarded” like thatI’m an adult 😂 I’ll say whatever I want. If something is retarded then I’m going to call it fucking retarded. For instance, right now you are being an uppity faggot as well as acting like a fucking retard. Take your shit opinions back to reddit nigger
(DIR) Post #AQ1l5TGH5pCVqw6nAW by SpudChucker@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:15:23.146081Z
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Good luck on your war against animal farms. Just watched a Business Insider video on mushroom farms and lack of workers in all sectors including transportation. Lots of waste and revenue loss from mushrooms going bad. Almond farms in California requiring tons of water in a perpetual drought state, bees suffering from hive collapse and worker shortages in farming to your stores. My personal opinion on vegan stuff: Almond “milk” (without thickeners) is good on a hot day. Vegan cheese is garbage and should be called spread. Tofu sucks and fake meats have a wet cardboard texture and horrible flavor. Stop making things look and “taste” like meat to trick normal people into that slop, it’s disgusting. I’d eat (and make often) vegan chili because I like peppers and beans before an Impossible/Beyond burger. Reducing meat intake or going vegetarian is a more viable option than jumping into the vegan cult.
(DIR) Post #AQ1lHUKyv0dEfH2ZRA by smugumin@bae.st
2022-11-27T11:21:51.183705Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh i have just reported your heckin server to the owner of the fediverse and basically you're gonna be in big trouble mister!! :soy_cry:
(DIR) Post #AQ1lMkdLkz1oee8qKO by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:00:14Z
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@CatLord incorrect. “Vegan Diet 'Appropriate for All Stages of the Life Cycle' Says Largest Group of Nutritionists”https://www.organicauthority.com/buzz-news/vegan-diet-appropriate-for-all-stages-of-the-life-cycle-says-largest-group-of-nutritionists
(DIR) Post #AQ1lMl2WFPA3uhuwYi by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:22:51.527631Z
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@shauny I don't care what some group of ideologically motivated nutritionists say. You need to eat meat and fish to maintain a healthy fat balance, get various vitamins and minerals, nourish your organs, and keep a healthy hormonal profile. It is possible to not eat meat and fish and get these things but you have to be supplementing meat and fish products, which is basically the same thing.Good luck replacing organ meat nourishment with plant matter. Good luck having a healthy hormonal profile while not eating animal fats and fish fats. Do you know why predators can spend most of the day chilling or socialising? Because the energy expenditure of grazers (prey) is far higher than predators. Humans are omnivorous predators. We have canines. Our hormonal levels cannot be right without eating meat and fish. You cannot get enough carnitine, manganese, zinc, Carnosine, DHA, and vitamins D, K2, B12, B6, and B3 without eating animals and animal products.Substituting local sustainable ranching and fishing, with the exploitative, neoliberal, capitalist system of international shipping and foreign unsustainable growth of environmentally expensive foods like avocados, to fuel a morally conceited and idiotic diet, is a bourgeois luxury.I don't have a problem with those who say "I love animals and I can't bear the thought of killing them, so I'm vegetarian" but veganism is fucking stupid. You can have good moral and environmental criticisms of industrial farming without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Farming and ranching at their best are a symbiosis of man and the natural world.youtube.com/watch?v=8JqDES1Ptjw
(DIR) Post #AQ1lWOf8Ifm9PLZi88 by MiketheLeaf@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:12:23.236747Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil Veganism is far more devastating to the environment and only the agriculturally illiterate think you can grow crops sustainably without animal husbandry.
(DIR) Post #AQ1lWP6QfBbsm0LVg0 by alfaniner@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:24:36.043101Z
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Vegans do the weirdest shit. Vegan Gains sticks dildos up his ass on OF for glory against the meat industry I guess
(DIR) Post #AQ1lcBJErMZdjP5nLU by DuckKingLoow@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:25:39.053739Z
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@MiketheLeaf @shauny @LexiconDevil Large scale adoption of veganism would also lead to a mass die off of food animals, since cows now cost money and provide nothing in return, and mass starvation. Not all land is arable. A lot of it is only good for growing grass, but not tillable for crop without artificially enriching the soil with petrochemicals. So it will result in a significant reduction in food production which will basically stop all food aid world wide and result in the largest famine the world has seen. In particular in Africa whose massive population relies on food from NGOs to survive......... wait ....... hold up. I'm seeing some positives here.
(DIR) Post #AQ1llNR58vX1wn96hs by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:24:54Z
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@CatLord ok well you just posted about a half a dozen myths and incorrect information which I haven’t got the time to go into at the moment. I suggest you do some more research because you are so wrong on many levels.
(DIR) Post #AQ1llNzp3lJxgXOqrA by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:27:18.600267Z
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@shauny Show me a historical human population that was vegan.
(DIR) Post #AQ1lwZ8dyP95QZrBJo by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:28:02Z
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@CatLord how is that a good argument? Show me a historical human population that all had iPhones. Does that mean iPhones are bad for your health?
(DIR) Post #AQ1lwZfG19EX3j7E9Y by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:29:19.911821Z
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@shauny No but it means that iPhones are a modern invention. There is no historical population that practised veganism because it's an unnatural diet of modernity.
(DIR) Post #AQ1lyqRebB8DgMpr1c by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:29:14Z
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@CatLord ah my bad just realised you’re an actual Nazi?! Bye.
(DIR) Post #AQ1lyqu0tjoh6K6VEG by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:29:44.680142Z
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@shauny Yeah, and Hitler was a vegetarian. But he wasn't a dumb vegan like you.
(DIR) Post #AQ1m7NSfjDGiOiNdYW by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T11:31:17.534514Z
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@shauny I'm vegan btw.
(DIR) Post #AQ1m8ZMswebpcCF3oG by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T11:31:27.604590Z
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@shauny @CatLord too scared to post your pedophile funded biased studies in response to these "myths"
(DIR) Post #AQ1mEGluzxNbg3fXKy by MiketheLeaf@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:32:22.526461Z
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@DuckKingLoow @shauny @LexiconDevil wtf I'm vegan now.
(DIR) Post #AQ1mF2516laEOtxx8C by SaltWraith@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:32:40.366312Z
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@alfaniner @MiketheLeaf @LexiconDevil @shauny Vegan Gains secretly wishes buckbreaking was real and he could live on a plantation with a closeted massa with a giant pickle for Gains
(DIR) Post #AQ1mJkZxbTpvZQgmu0 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2022-11-27T11:33:30.257739Z
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@PonyPanda @shauny Meth is a vegetable.
(DIR) Post #AQ1mOiSqtR9uSZjSaG by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T11:34:25.546559Z
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@Humpleupagus @shauny meth is neither animal based nor plant based. But no animal was killed for it.
(DIR) Post #AQ1mY2Pe5y20w0g3pg by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:36:06.302138Z
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@CatLord @shauny Veganism is unnatural and can't really sustain a healthy body or mind. We are meant to eat a wide variety of food including fish meat grain and veg for a healthy lifestyle
(DIR) Post #AQ1mqZyo23s8Fmxreq by Bunny@comfyboy.club
2022-11-27T11:39:26.599783Z
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@shauny @CatLord it is so idk what point you’re trying to make with that
(DIR) Post #AQ1msJwkc8Or6gpkRs by FarcryFuhrer@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:39:46.395551Z
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@CatLord @shauny You show me a vegan civilization and I will show you a dead society
(DIR) Post #AQ1mzS6GhKdqQCgaeG by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T09:58:41Z
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@Cara not everyone has a wide choice of employment options. Those working in slaughterhouses tend to be very low paid low skill workers who don’t have many other options. “most of his colleagues were illiterate, unable even to fill in the job application forms by themselves. Their prospects of getting work elsewhere were next to nothing.”Not many people would choose to work there!https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/how-killing-animals-everyday-leaves-slaughterhouse-workers-traumatised-7175087/
(DIR) Post #AQ1mzSdahRIS5YHCaW by schw0reismus@ryona.agency
2022-11-27T11:40:16.259352Z
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@shauny @Cara > US being the greatest country in the world> low literacy rates
(DIR) Post #AQ1n2vczN3Z2rweG00 by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T11:41:41.264762Z
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@Dan_Hulson @shauny I have an uncle and an aunt who are vegetarian and they both have difficulties every now and then because of it but they are mostly healthy. Veganism is a whole other deal. I don't even know where it came from, man. Who came up with the dumbass idea that a family having a cow or goat to milk is abusive? Even field donkeys, horses, and mules can be very happy and well cared for.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZnqLi0rSQg
(DIR) Post #AQ1n4ICKwPkb9tpfl2 by Inginsub@clubcyberia.co
2022-11-27T11:41:54.365907Z
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@shauny >slaughterhouse workers suffer some of the worse PTSD and mental health conditionsthey’re just whiny bitches
(DIR) Post #AQ1njO2s6c9lAP05ku by kakkerel@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T11:49:21.990767Z
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@shauny But very little of what you've said is actually true. Milk producing animals do need to reproduce to continue the lactation process. And indeed the offspring they produce can either be kept, sold, or slaughtered. But slaughter of a lamb, for example, usually takes place at about a year of age, or right before whenever they would begin consuming forage. Half the reason this is done is because the taste of mutton of so off-putting. Old layer hens are basically no significant part of the meat production process. After a few years of life, a chicken's meat becomes tough and more strongly flavored than is suitable for the typical palate. Meat chickens are grown specifically for their meat and usually slaughtered at between 10 and 16 weeks.Frankly, if you have some land you can raise your own animals and conduct their care and slaughter as humanely as you want.That's the actual fucking solution.Vegan diets wouldn't even be possible without a highly industrialized agriculture that simply didn't exist one hundred years ago. And in a pinch I can return to living off the land with as few inputs as a dozen chickens and a pair of goats. I don't need to import artificial industrialized fertilizers to grow any of my crops either. The manure these animals produce is more than enough to support my needs.You don't know anything about animals. You don't live close to animals. You don't understand the typical life of an animal. You're not an authority. You're an aberration that won't exist in another hundred years.
(DIR) Post #AQ1nvFS7sY57zZT8fA by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T11:46:10.696398Z
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@CatLord @Dan_Hulson @shauny it's a fucking psyop to get people to turn on each other. A few elite-run factory farms don't follow the rules and mistreat their animals? Yell at the guy who buys steak at the supermarket
(DIR) Post #AQ1oyBhwMIuVCTpcGG by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T12:03:14.282246Z
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@shauny The hens that can no longer lay are killed for KFCAfter about a year, chicken muscles are too developed to just simply batter and fry. You can get away with chicken soup, but no one is going to enjoy the toughness of an adult bird. The fishing industry employs actual slaves, and is a horror show of its own. sent using my IPhoneHonestly the modern meat industry is an ethical nightmare, but not for the reasons you mentioned. If you want to avoid supporting the horrid factory farming practices of the modern market, grow your own meat. Kill your own prey, and do it in a way that you find ethical. My chickens feel no pain when they die. They are given an opportunity to live a beautiful chicken life before hand. If I don’t kill them, something else will do it in a much more vicious manner. Have you ever heard the expression “fox in a hen house”? It’s terrible what a fox will do to a flock of birds without the farmer’s protection. And it does it for the pure sport of it (not just to eat).
(DIR) Post #AQ1pOMfEFK6Ei42rrc by krang@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:07:58.165691Z
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@Dan_Hulson @CatLord @shauny Good for losing weight if you need to tbh
(DIR) Post #AQ1pUarINr6eTGexGK by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:09:05.858150Z
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@krang @CatLord @shauny Yes, for sure mate but still it ain't sustainable or healthy in the long run
(DIR) Post #AQ1pmL45qIwahV6hvc by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T12:12:18.604567Z
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@DerLeere @shauny khokhol cremation
(DIR) Post #AQ1psV17knXxIuejKq by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T12:13:25.406952Z
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@shauny if animals don't want to be eaten then why are they so tasty?
(DIR) Post #AQ1q3XvpG3K7WqRfg8 by krang@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:15:24.957624Z
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@Dan_Hulson @CatLord @shauny Like George Clooneys idea of going vegan 1 day and normal the next, definitely helps with blood flow giving yourself a break from meat, I've noticed #Q
(DIR) Post #AQ1qByc3wRGwb0Dlz6 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:07:08Z
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@thatguyoverthere “if you want to avoid supporting it, grow your own meat”Yes that’s a great way to create loads of new vegans because most people couldn’t stomach killing the animals themselves.And do you think most people have acres of land available to create their own farm?The other way to avoid supporting it is to go vegan. Which is what I did. Way easier.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qBz1wODyLtGKRJw by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T12:16:55.788961Z
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@shauny The fact that people can't stomach what is necessary to maintain their way of life says more about them than the things that are necessary. Modern man is weak. Eschewing our predatory nature while still enjoying the harvest.You don't need acres to grow some chicken. I currently live on less than an acre and have plenty of room for my birds to be quite happy. They get more room to enjoy life than they do on those big factory farms that are hundreds of acres in size.It's funny that you think veganism is morally superior to me. What do you think, no animals are killed in the farming of plants? Just another demonstration of how disconnected modern man is from reality. The truth is that veganism is almost impossible to do without a ton of environmentally damaging inputs. Unless of course you have acreage of your own and can be sure it's done in a way that doesn't harm the wildlife around you, but even then you're going to find it quite difficult to grow enough variety to suit your nutritional needs.We are predatory animals by nature. That's why our eyes are pointed forward like a cat or a dog instead of out to the sides like a sheep or a deer. Our bodies are tuned for eating meat.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qHBXzHOvw9tnZya by krang@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:17:52.579834Z
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@Dan_Hulson @CatLord @shauny Obviously the globalists want us eating bugs and suger grass and shit
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKJteh1XMvHQcgS by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T11:21:07.289610Z
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@shauny I care too much for humans to want to take away their dietary choice and agency.There is a case to be made about slaughterhouses, to kill the animal in a more efficient and painless way, and overall improve the infrastructure so animals don't just breathe each other's sweat and shit so employees don't feel bad.I think the best recourse to reduce meat consumption is to teach people how to farm with animals (say a chicken run) and how to cull the animal properly. It would make people more conscious of the stakes that come with meat production and perhaps buy meat from places that respect their own livestock. The complete disconnection between the product in stores and what it took to make it sure enables awful treatment of livestock. And I doubt a simple government message on the label is enough. It takes seeing it.My mom loves animals, and I even mentioned to her what it takes to kill a whole chicken for meat and the difference of methods between a family owned coop and a meat industry. Because she never had to do the killing herself, she doesn't mind buying those from the store and would never take the knife to cull it the painless way. That's the disconnect.Another thing is, Veganism is not always the most ethical way, despite what I constantly hear. If you are Utilitarian and Anti-specieist then I guess the lives of the many outweigh the lives of the few, but it's a position not everyone adheres to.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKKMiwwn0NR1pzc by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:23:21Z
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@Wopu why is veganism less ethical?Also I think “but people choose to eat meat” is not a good argument. People choose to do other terrible things and we have laws against that. What about the animals rights?
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKKtgyNA21gSANc by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T11:47:41.507455Z
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how do you want to sustain 8 billion people. plants ?? bugs ?? meat is literally the best source of nutrient please forget about this nonsense we NEED meat
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKLFJfyST6kZR5M by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:49:31Z
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@fartkart @Wopu meat is inherently inefficient and we can sustain far more people with far less land using just plants. No bugs please 🙅🏻https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/food-drink/climate-impact-meat-vegetarian-vegan-diets
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKLlDlLykhhUuoa by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T12:02:55.040980Z
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@shauny @fartkart I'm not making a case about sustaining overpopulation, because the answer lies between genocide, eugenics and forcing people to live in pods to free agricultural land. Denmark is trying to force farmers out of their lands and pressure them with Climate goals to take their livestock away: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/21/emotion-and-pain-as-dutch-farmers-fight-back-against-huge-cuts-to-livestockMost often, vegans pretend to have the moral high ground because they care about animals more than us. Either because they claim to reduce pain or death.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKMgeJpurZoMmKO by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T12:09:08.204206Z
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they saw one slaughterhouse video and it really shocked them to the levels of zombifying themselves and going through 80 mental and physical hoops just to not hurt a chicken. they really are something.animals are living creatures and we kill them, it is a fact of life. but somehow that didn't get to them until they were adults. veganism in general is a meme that's out of trend a decade ago. most vegans quit a year later
(DIR) Post #AQ1qKN3gwALcjH9BFA by schw0reismus@ryona.agency
2022-11-27T12:17:38.557604Z
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@fartkart @Wopu @shauny vegetables are suprisingly living creatures, too
(DIR) Post #AQ1qVe2S97gsZqwYrI by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:20:29.565734Z
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@krang @CatLord @shauny and I want them faggots to eat bullets so it's swings and roundabouts, mate
(DIR) Post #AQ1qhOtSHUeV53LAXo by Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T12:22:35.303075Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh bro. Kill urself and good luck u soy fag
(DIR) Post #AQ1qowTloCBTGuvGU4 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:45:05Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh well it will take a few generations to find out. Unfortunately not enough people are vegan since birth. Weird argument from ignorance though.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qowu0EfASaHCDNA by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T10:46:48.202768Z
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Doesn't have to be from birth. A lot of people I knew (mostly female) went vegan in high school for ethical reasons and I am gen x.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qoxJAj5IhqKyJbU by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:53:16Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh ok well in a few years time when they have enough training there will be some added to this list I’m sure. But as vegans make up only 1% of the population you can’t expect there to be many yet. I share the list only to show that it’s possible.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qoxqqhsEtWmjD60 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:54:27Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh watch the Netflix documentary called “The Game Changers” it’s about vegan athletes.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qoyPEe1kFFQofh2 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:02:23.128001Z
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I am aware of it's claims. Once again those are not people who went through puberty while vegan. My argument is the effect of the structure, thickness and density of the bones and skeletal muscle will be different enough with a vegan diet to have a much greater effect on athletic performance than any maintenance diet in adulthood would.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qoymzDikAR5vdiK by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:05:57Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh you’re basing this very scientific opinion on what exactly?As opposed to the world’s largest nutritionist organisation who disagree with you?Vegan Diet 'Appropriate for All Stages of the Life Cycle' Says Largest Group of Nutritionistshttps://www.organicauthority.com/buzz-news/vegan-diet-appropriate-for-all-stages-of-the-life-cycle-says-largest-group-of-nutritionists
(DIR) Post #AQ1qozGlR0YxvRrQ80 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:07:04Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh all protein comes from plants in the first place. There’s nothing magical about animal protein you can’t get from plant protein.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qozgHu6ynCbnnua by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:35:37.836938Z
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Well B12 comes from algae but I bet you take a supplement rather than the plant source. The fact is that just because there is protein in grass doesn't mean we can absorb it, while a cow can followed by me absorbing the cow. Regarding proteins humans can absorb the protein quality index shows the bioavailability, digestability etc. You already know whey and eggs come out on top.Finally regarding the link, have you read the actual statement in the journal?"Bone studies have reported that vege-tarians have either similar or slightlyreduced bone mineral density levelscompared with omnivores, withvegans typically having the lowestlevels"Remember this is in adults, not people who are developing where the diet will have a stronger effect.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp11wt3ttO4wcJU by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:38:54Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh I’ve read many studies on bone density and low BMI is linked to lower bone density. Vegans simply aren’t as fat as non-vegans which explains the link. My B-12 comes from supplements as does yours. The animals you eat are fed B-12 supplements. It doesn’t form naturally in them. Like I said do some proper research because you’re firing cliches at me like a sniper using dung for ammunition.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp1StGtS2jdY8J6 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:50:34.015788Z
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Farms use cobalt pellets or cobalt pasture sprays so that the livestock make their own b12 (if there isn't enough cobalt in the soil). B12 Supplementation is only ever a temporary measure if a problem is identified.With all the vegan ready made meals and fast food you won't need to worry about that low BMI problem for much longer...
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp1xjQE7aHHylNY by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:52:11Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh wrong. Research animal feed. It’s packed with supplements, growth enhancers, hormones, antibiotics 🤮And I have an extremely healthy vegan diet with whole foods. Even ready meals and fast food are lower in calories than meat versions.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp2LpybP5U3G0x6 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T11:55:44.945143Z
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What are you talking about? You are moving the goalposts by talking about other things in food. B12 supplementation is used if necessary but not long term, if for no other reason than there are cheaper, easier options. Simply saying "Wrong" like you're the vegan Trump isn't an argument.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp2lMRhoulDCOjg by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T11:58:14Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh animal feed contains vitamin B12. Chicken feed contains it as standard. They can’t produce it themselves.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp3EQhd4YDMnc2q by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:00:19Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh The Framingham Offspring study found that 39 percent of the general population may be in the low normal and deficient B12 blood level range. Most interestingly there was no difference between those ate meat, poultry, or fish and those who did not eat those foods. The people with the highest B12 blood levels were those who were taking B12 supplements and eating B12 fortified cereals.https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp3ctEgddREF9Ae by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:00:59Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh so I probably have better B12 levels than you do.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp437f9cckaW63k by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:02:40.990549Z
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You want to be sufficient, not high.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-92945-y
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp4Ti4ItC52xKV6 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:04:17Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh yes. My supplement gives me the exact requirement. You’re probably deficient according to that study
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp4rSdzt7Gi4IWO by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:05:06.773967Z
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Most supplements are overdosed. What's yours?
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp5HL5maWYyAxrE by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:07:34Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh https://www.vegansociety.com/shop/veg-1-supplements
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp5fncq9bmpcUz2 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:13:29.466606Z
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Veg 1 says it is 1000% of the RDI.
(DIR) Post #AQ1qp62UGUImvCEcLY by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:18:28Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh suddenly you’re concerned about cancer? You’d better stop eating red and processed meat then. https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat
(DIR) Post #AQ1qsbL6Ld84rlc2zI by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:10:16Z
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@fartkart @Wopu actually veganism is rising all around the world, in the UK alone it’s huge now. Every supermarket and restaurant is full of vegan food. It’s a huge emerging market
(DIR) Post #AQ1qsbr0R0eMSiXWiW by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T12:12:26.003686Z
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UK LOL. the British people are subjugated dying breed who are getting replaced at an incredible speed. who gives a shit about that irrelevant island
(DIR) Post #AQ1r1D4vuzUQEG9fvM by Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T12:26:08.372369Z
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@shauny @fartkart @Wopu and the weak will die. Lol people don't learn from history. Eat great. Be weak. Get conquered by those that eat yet.Soy fags need to learn to read a damn book.
(DIR) Post #AQ1r2fY7YAJUoqVFui by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:04:58Z
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@Wopu @fartkart you’re pro eugenics and genocide?*backs away slowly*
(DIR) Post #AQ1r2fvW9B1pzPRwNk by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T12:09:56.340722Z
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what's so bad about eugenics ? i want better looking ppledit: nvm if eugenics were a thing then ur faggot ass wouldn't be here cuz it takes 2 braincells to figure out that veganism is a meme
(DIR) Post #AQ1r32pH0YhT0hhmLI by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T12:09:23.635371Z
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*rapes u*
(DIR) Post #AQ1rF7pAFaehzGPley by Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T12:28:42.093187Z
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@shauny @Wopu @fartkart I'm pro genociding all soy fags, feminist, commies, simps\cucks, and npcs. You all deserve the kiss of two the the back of the head and a shallow unmarked mass grave.
(DIR) Post #AQ1rJwWNhaI8NavUOW by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:21:02Z
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@thatguyoverthere Disinformation purveyor. You got that right.
(DIR) Post #AQ1rJx91NvCSJR0Lce by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T12:29:34.414271Z
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@shauny sick burn bro. point out the disinfo. Show me the error of my ways. I suspect you've never been on a farm, and your understanding of human physiology probably stops at a high school level.https://quetre.pussthecat.org/Is-it-true-that-eye-placement-in-mammals-determines-what-they-eat?share=1https://quetre.pussthecat.org/How-many-small-animals-are-killed-when-harvesting-crops?share=1
(DIR) Post #AQ1rtSrnQzoMpfsgUK by Neigh-Sayer@poa.st
2022-11-27T12:35:39.722005Z
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@shauny Meat always wins in the end. Don't be a faggot and try some.
(DIR) Post #AQ1sAo69kV2nbVrpcO by DarkMahesvara@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T12:39:05.226765Z
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@shauny @Wopu @fartkart >you’re pro eugenics and genocide?pretty ironic coming from someone who presumably is pro abortion :heh:
(DIR) Post #AQ1sMkQHEwplgCyLia by jeff@federated.fun
2022-11-27T12:41:17.574893Z
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@Neigh-Sayer @shauny humans eat meat for a good reason
(DIR) Post #AQ1uPTz11E75TCeXBo by krang@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:04:12.021022Z
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@shauny @ceo_of_monoeye_dating Climate change is 99% natural, stop trying to shut down family farms like the Soviet Union for your personal diet
(DIR) Post #AQ1uWUTrZEfD2YQIWe by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:05:27.581780Z
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@shauny @CatLord > you're wrong but I can't back it up.You might be able to sustain a proper balance if you bring inputs in from all around the globe. If you live in an area where avocado, coconut, and other high fat plants don't grow you will need to import those goods to replace the easily available nutrition in your local area. Eating locally (and in season) is much better for the environment than shipping food all around the world and letting huge amounts of food go to waste because it can't reach it's target consumer in a timely and economic fashion.
(DIR) Post #AQ1uaCenmE4kv5JHVY by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:06:08.227935Z
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@shauny @CatLord I phones are terrible for your health. They make you stupid and weak.
(DIR) Post #AQ1unsOTuat682CDnk by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:08:36.587313Z
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@shauny @ceo_of_monoeye_dating grow it on your own and the cycle of input to output can be a more or less closed loop. Much more ecologically friendly than shipping food from Guatamala to Massachusetts
(DIR) Post #AQ1v6tJygipIVU9ly4 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:12:02.763230Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil > it’s vastly inefficient compared to eating plant proteins.Yeah peas (a fairly common supplemental protein) are loaded with protein bro. And all proteins are created equally right?
(DIR) Post #AQ1vDz89UIo6YE0Xce by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:13:19.544098Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil > They could get other jobs. The vegan equivalent of learn to code
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNupgK2367K6UM4 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:22:03.323256Z
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Intentionally lumped in with processed meat to make it look bad.Evidence against unprocessed red meat is weak.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01968-z
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNvGchrbFSsi0Lg by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:31:54Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh it’s still a carcinogen. B12 supplements are not a carcinogen, as the elevated B12 could be a result of another issue, not the cause of cancer, more study is needed https://www.natureword.com/can-vitamin-b12-cause-cancer/
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNvsYQpwPMWSITI by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:33:42Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh also:Vitamin B12 is a water-soluble vitamin, which means that when we ingest too much of it, the excess amounts are flushed out of the body through urine. This makes it nearly impossible to overdose on the nutrient. On top of that, we know that only a small percentage of vitamin B12 taken orally is actually absorbed.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNwPWSGJR0lscrI by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:38:02.858117Z
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The RDI is based on oral absorption, not injections as that wouldn't be *dietary*. Obviously it is being flushed out, but if you're taking 1000% every day it will be constantly kept at a higher level than necessary. Too high? I have no idea.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNwycLmNwlcIeYq by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:41:38Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh anyway this is a distraction from the fact that most people are B12 deficient, so everyone should take supplements. Plus your animals are fed them anyway. So your argument against supplements is wrong. Same goes for vitamin D unless you live somewhere very sunny
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNxSkXkUKH4OiWm by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:53:02.002667Z
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Well Vitamin D is another story altogether. I get plenty of wild caught fish and because my diet is high in magnesium and probiotics from yoghurt I have never needed to supplement with vitamin D. Tested at the end of winter a couple of years ago 96 nmol/l.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNxsczXBjZKVNrc by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:54:50Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh ok but you’re not typical of the western diet so what is your point exactly
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNyM3E8ix2aGsj2 by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:58:03.768981Z
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Do you think the articles you share saying a properly managed vegan diet is healthy is representative of people actually taking up veganism? Why do you think so many people end up in such poor health and quit being vegans including people who initially push it? It's not easy to be healthy long term on *any* diet and creating huge restrictions makes it even harder.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNyrFM9g4bKrnLk by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T12:59:28.472402Z
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(DIR) Post #AQ1vNzOZMGKgGgSPI0 by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:02:22Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh you’re getting nutritional advice from Bear Grylles, he says you shouldn’t eat veg? You think that’s healthy lol! You know he drinks his own piss, do you do that too?
(DIR) Post #AQ1vNzo5pMkVXqOn4a by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:03:55.261546Z
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I literally said after this that I'm not saying the carnivore diet is healthy but if this guy can't do it healthy while writing cookbooks, the average Joe Sixpack isn't going to be able to.Edit: By it I mean a vegan diet.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vO090ZbTmaiBUfo by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:04:39Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh come on this is just a terrible argument.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vO11FJwrfIvYoDI by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:05:55.028487Z
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Are you seriously suggesting there isn't a surprisingly large community of ex-vegans who experienced health issues and either chose other ridiculous diets or moved back to a normal omnivorous diet?
(DIR) Post #AQ1vO1Q3pgiKXtActM by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:07:39.402841Z
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Vegans are not healthy. We need meat of one form or another. Eggs are good too, but you flippers don't even accept that on a vegan diet, do you? It might be nice as a temporary cleanse, but not long term. End of story IMO
(DIR) Post #AQ1vO1t85bxy02lqCW by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:15:06.668859Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington @ehhh @shauny The coward blocked me lol. Maybe that's another symptom of poor vegan health. The inability to deal with criticism.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vVVpz8Z9Suersie by CatLord@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:16:29.546791Z
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@thatguyoverthere @shauny Naturally vegans don't understand environmental and ecological health.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vXHcIypZLO5JVfU by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:16:48.844164Z
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@shauny @ehhh you mean people with professional nutritionists on the payroll manage to build a diet from plants that competes with the simplicity of eating meat? Wild. Too bad not everyone can afford such luxuries.
(DIR) Post #AQ1vjIwFtLC2xhNShE by DickMolesterson@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:18:58.908184Z
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Lol the faggot reported you
(DIR) Post #AQ1vpnWf59AzZ1VDFo by willynilly@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:19:36.406558Z
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I love hate speech
(DIR) Post #AQ1vx4RGb9py2tRlxY by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:21:27.973217Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil I've slaughtered animals, it's not that big a deal.Do I believe people working in the industry have to endure shitty conditions under penny-pinching scumbag ownership? Yes. Working in a sweatshop sucks no matter what you're doing.
(DIR) Post #AQ1w3ekAWxNqNfQd4C by Frankurino@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:22:40.041109Z
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(DIR) Post #AQ1w6HLJzTMMfo3aT2 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:23:08.396740Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil cows eat grass (something we humans do not eat). You don't need to load them up on grains and in fact it's not particularly healthy for them or the downstream consumer. Omega 6 fats cause inflammation and grain fed cattle are much higher in this than a cow on their natural diet. I would imagine humans similarly should avoid a grain heavy diet if we want to keep inflammation down.
(DIR) Post #AQ1wF9LL6QAsT8IMr2 by NotImportant@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:24:44.193692Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil I wish I joined Ag class when I was in highschool. They would raise a cow from a baby for the whole year and then slaughter it at the end of the year for a big class meal.
(DIR) Post #AQ1wLDVyVQ5v90AAdM by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:25:50.332433Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil you do realize that we need protein because we need specific amino acids and that very few plants have an amino makeup that complements our needs right? There are also different kinds of fats.Seed oils are not a good source of healthy fats. Plant proteins are rarely complete for our needs.
(DIR) Post #AQ1wY2HbZnyW4eYQ6q by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:28:09.341948Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil my animals are quite happy actually, and when I cull them out of the flock they feel no pain.
(DIR) Post #AQ1x8e8uIBoNv1wWhs by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:34:46.440339Z
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Vegans-0 Chuds-1
(DIR) Post #AQ1xE2RvLdTqkjPQie by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T13:32:45.341738Z
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@thatguyoverthere @ehhh @shauny Conveniently doesn't mention supplements too.You could technically skip eating meat, vegetables and mushrooms by just getting the right amount of supplements for your daily needs.
(DIR) Post #AQ1xcNCVqWm43unvhQ by Seigesthetic@poa.st
2022-11-27T13:40:08.763146Z
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@deprecated_ii @shauny @LexiconDevil I absolutely agree, especially when I have to be careful to ensure the cuts are done fast and well by hand.
(DIR) Post #AQ1xfswQIBR5N8x9t2 by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T13:40:16.497911Z
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@thatguyoverthere @LexiconDevil @shauny Vegetable oils have unsaturated fats that are highly unstable and can cause tissue inflammation. The cause of it is a acid that forms following the exposure of the oil to high temperature. That's why you always change frying oil after use.
(DIR) Post #AQ1xo7ixDLHzXLa7Ky by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:42:16.085485Z
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@shauny @fartkart @Wopu you will eat the bugs and be happy
(DIR) Post #AQ1xsZm0rxjLgl8SQK by fartkart@zztails.gay
2022-11-27T12:00:58.290369Z
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there are way less farmable land overall in the world. plus livestock animals eat alot of vegetables and vegetable leftovers that we humans cannot consume or digest. it is the total opposite it is the most efficient method of feeding people
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI5b3gixrcuB2zA by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:08:34Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh people who treat it as a diet and do it as a fad don’t last, they hop from one fad diet to another or just go back to omni. And sure people post online that “I am an ex vegan” and make up health problems for the clicks. But those who do it for the right reasons and who see the truth about animal agriculture don’t go back. I’ve never been healthier since I went vegan.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI647weDV53mGIK by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:12:09.836274Z
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I find it pretty hard to believe that these people are all lying to get ex vegan internet clout. I wonder if your love of animals will force you to pretend you're not unwell if your lifestyle ever starts affecting your health.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI6W8GWcOTuscwi by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:13:02Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh how would it affect my health though? When all experts agree that you can thrive on a vegan diet. Unless I suddenly get allergic to beans, I’m good
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI71gNDr63ldp7g by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:14:36.633016Z
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Certainly a possibility if your body starts to overreact to the lectins in them.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI7RYp0YVM1kUSW by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:17:09Z
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@Herman_Hetherington @ehhh well I’d be screwed because animal protein contains lectins too.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI7ud4vo8oBLhlg by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:18:58.791625Z
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People can become allergic to particular meats as well. That's why it's good to have a large range of foods to choose from.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI8KVWiVY6RSN6W by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:21:28.054291Z
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Leaky gut is a big problem ignored by most doctor hacks, could be a source of your food allergies. The lining of your entire digestive system could cover 2 tennis courts, and is only 1 cell layer thick. Destruction of the tight junction cells leads to food particles slipping by, getting into your blood and the body responds with allergy-like symptoms. Repair with ... like you said, and wide range of foods (FOODS, not cancerous "products")
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI8l5vrm7QttbXs by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:22:43Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington @ehhh “Leaky gut syndrome is a hypothetical condition that’s not currently recognized as a medical diagnosis.”You eating animals in case of a hypothetical syndrome?
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI9GI3sjEzeUWAa by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:23:02.409902Z
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Keep listening to (((modern medicine))) and see where it gets you.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yI9hERiHOLD62AC by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:23:37Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington @ehhh what do you do? Blood letting and witchcraft?
(DIR) Post #AQ1yIA8WoE77hrrpi4 by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:24:43.064631Z
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That would be superior to the current pharmaceutical interventions that are so prevalent in our culture. Stop being such a spastic nigger. I gave you the fundamental basis for the condition, whether google and wikipedia recognizes it, is of ZERO concern to me.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yIAYPG0oX07yV2u by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:25:39Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington @ehhh ok one too many hate speeches on your instance. Goodbye enjoy the leeches.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yIAyHhnVwIO5ANk by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:47:40.442621Z
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This isn’t a movie shithead. Stop trying to sound like a badass.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yKGYvtATkDPDkum by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T12:02:55Z
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@fartkart @Wopu We don’t need more farmable land - we already create far more soybeans than humans need (it’s all fed to animals at the moment). We’d actually need far less agricultural land if everyone went vegan. We can rewild the spaces currently used for animals and sequester far more carbon, restore natural forests and wild animal habitats, start to restore the planet to what it once was
(DIR) Post #AQ1yKH1IBjADdMUP7Q by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T13:48:04.584402Z
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@shauny @fartkart @Wopu soy protein is not complete. Consumption of large amounts of soy protein can have a negative impact on hormone balance. That's why plant based protein supplements these days tend to rely on peas which have almost no protein, but the protein they do have is closer to a complete protein than soy and doesn't have the same negative effects as soy.
(DIR) Post #AQ1yLkKwfpxGqfNssy by chinwaa@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:42:22.406458Z
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Did somebody say hate speech?!!
(DIR) Post #AQ1yLkmF2Ln0DK9gQq by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:44:54.681871Z
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Just in case he's deaf:
(DIR) Post #AQ1ypkJrIsGVTvBHQO by demitasse@pleroma.narrativerry.xyz
2022-11-27T13:53:44.974800Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevil yeah but that is from the bbc and we already know brits are fags and pedos who allowed themselves to be disarmed
(DIR) Post #AQ1znP0bfFkKlNcdSy by LordWillington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T14:04:32.887354Z
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Even this soy filled bitch has the (tiny) gonads to eat bugs.
(DIR) Post #AQ1zuCkvcPwymxX4cK by Darb@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T14:05:46.696480Z
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Hate speech isn't a real thing. It's on you not to get offended by literal words.
(DIR) Post #AQ1zzwJxdVuLYPeZ0a by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T14:06:04.594031Z
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More steak for me 😋 If these 'tards cared about animals as much as they claim, they would realize the proper way forward is to raise and butcher (the animals they do eat) by themselves and with love.
(DIR) Post #AQ206Z4EUWXHSeSJ3Q by LordWillington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T14:08:00.725661Z
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I just love grass fed, 98% lean hamburger meat. It’s the tastiest out of them all. Humans were meant to eat meat, hence why we DEVELOPES IN NATURE THE TEETH TO DO SO.
(DIR) Post #AQ20tMP4MdbaNGTA0W by ThatMushroom@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-27T13:09:56.465309Z
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My waifu is on a carnivore diet.
(DIR) Post #AQ24GIUzLZNcmsrnhQ by bane@www.banepo.st
2022-11-27T14:54:33.366458Z
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@shauny @CatLord Including the stage when the retard scum parents (like you might have been if you weren't a sterile faggot) go to jail after killing their children with a vegan diet?
(DIR) Post #AQ24SyuLUsgtn8m9Lc by bane@www.banepo.st
2022-11-27T14:56:52.000641Z
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@shauny @fartkart @Wopu Every retarded thing you post is completely incorrect, you disgusting pedophile kike.
(DIR) Post #AQ25zIMsmOhdMq605w by DildoSwaggins@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T15:13:55.715564Z
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If you're so healthy why do you take so many supplements, and why do you have to eat so much pea powder protein?
(DIR) Post #AQ2G1KHhclnlQqHQK8 by karabin@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-27T17:06:07.356260Z
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@shauny I guess I should be shooting my food instead then, thanks for the tip :smug5:
(DIR) Post #AQ2OXeYyZ0f1E0Hjv6 by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T18:41:49.161049Z
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@shauny I breed and behead my own chickens then. I rather put that motherfucker myself than becoming a vegan, and losing my mind, my teeth and my family for following something that had been condemned as a doctrine of demons.
(DIR) Post #AQ2OgaDW5kfkLsVQO0 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-11-27T18:43:24.053563Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh what's your favorite smiths album
(DIR) Post #AQ2P92rZBEqXIuoJiS by bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club
2022-11-27T18:48:33.726923Z
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@shauny I will continue to eat meat and drink milk. I will cook my food with tallow instead of seed oils. There's a reason meat and dairy based diets produced people like the Scythians and Mongols, while veganism produces faggots like you.
(DIR) Post #AQ2PAyQQeORO7V2L4q by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T18:48:55.690637Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh I forgot something.
(DIR) Post #AQ2PmVYiQIjRb3oJYu by D00B@seal.cafe
2022-11-27T18:55:40.787470Z
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@bronze @shauny bronze just ignore you know like 500k years of humans eating meat and dairy and listen to *checks notes* a bunch of inbred faggots.
(DIR) Post #AQ2PpPFoJyYwuYLl5M by bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club
2022-11-27T18:56:12.641011Z
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@shauny oh and as for the seed oils, that shit is disgusting! And no, this is how organic seed oils are made too, so you can't get away from it.But you can get away from it by using animal fats :blobfoxthinksmart:
(DIR) Post #AQ2PvGJEUTzKuHk7Jg by Subject24@poa.st
2022-11-27T18:57:18.007543Z
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@shauny I support the murder and/or rape of innocent animals
(DIR) Post #AQ2QmXtbpmfenbAJ5U by moth@husk.site
2022-11-27T19:06:54.851598Z
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@bronze @shauny I don't even like the taste of meat, but it's important to assert dominance over lesser species.
(DIR) Post #AQ2TPSa1jRqPVwgnR2 by bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club
2022-11-27T19:36:21.080018Z
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@shauny btw your false report has been deniedI do this not as an act of hate but as an act of love. I genuinely believe veganism is evil and part of a globohomo agenda dead set on nutritionally stunting the goyim masses. Its no wonder you come off as emotionally stunted when your diet literally stunts your development. Face it, we all crave animal meat, bone broth, tallow etc. and it doesn't take a genius to notice the fruits of an artificial diet vs a normal and time tested diet.
(DIR) Post #AQ2TmF9Hpr2CWC2tQe by bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club
2022-11-27T19:40:27.931189Z
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@moth sounds like you haven't had slow cooked, well seasoned marinated in beer meat!@shauny
(DIR) Post #AQ2Txju1pjTv5LOH8S by Tactical@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-27T19:42:13.424257Z
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Faggot jew nigger
(DIR) Post #AQ2VtO1HS4vbxxpoJc by LovecraftEnthusiast@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-27T20:02:21.349984Z
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It took you ten post to see the swastika in the user name???
(DIR) Post #AQ2WXXFWYUF4AudpZo by book@sleepy.cafe
2022-11-27T20:10:29.273528Z
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UOOOOOOOOH! CHILD EROTIC! 😭😭😭😭
(DIR) Post #AQ2XeMF1ysDy12EBiS by bane@www.banepo.st
2022-11-27T20:23:51.645701Z
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@shauny No, you brain dead pedophile, everyone has to eat meat. It is a biological fact. Without animal products, especially animal fats and complete animal produced protein, a human will die. Step one will be acquisition of chronic mental and physical illnesses, step two will be quick degradation of mental faculties, and step three will be death. You are a child murderer. You are the reason that there are dumb fucks, just like you, killing children by forcing them to be vegan.The only people being scarred by slaughtering animals are women and faggots like you.Stop attempting to subvert society with your retarded garbage, you disgusting kike.
(DIR) Post #AQ2cBsp0GjrOQzIN0a by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T21:14:46.058015Z
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@shauny Hot garbage. I've killed dozens, scores, hundreds of animals and while I didn't revel in it, it didn't leave me with any lasting psychological scars.@kakkerel is quite right. Very little of your self-righteous trash is true. As for your #vegan cult, you don't get much of a crop without pest control - and how do you think you control pests? A consensus-building hugathon? No. There's a reason Jains don't generally do their own farming.
(DIR) Post #AQ2e718u6WPWhZPYSe by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T21:35:51.546933Z
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@shauny @aceattorneybot render
(DIR) Post #AQ2e71ZqULxg3814SG by aceattorneybot@gameliberty.club
2022-11-27T21:36:15Z
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@Wopu @shauny Here's the court session
(DIR) Post #AQ2eNlcv2rBJVFRBM8 by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-27T21:37:48.683678Z
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@aceattorneybot render
(DIR) Post #AQ2eNmJ6W0vRc5As6q by aceattorneybot@gameliberty.club
2022-11-27T21:39:18Z
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@Wopu @bane Here's the court session
(DIR) Post #AQ2ekglDIt9L4TFN4K by D00B@seal.cafe
2022-11-27T21:43:25.632763Z
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@book @Wopu @shauny @fartkart look what I found
(DIR) Post #AQ2jFjnYSVyRHoP2CO by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-27T22:33:53.962707Z
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@shauny @LexiconDevilIn today's lesson: it's easier to believe in veganism if you don't understand anything about agronomy or agricultural economics.Leaving aside such teeny-tiny details such as how you keep your crops free of pests (even integrated approaches involve mayhem, whether chemical or physical, depending on the pest and conditions) and how you square those with vegan principles, your basic problem is the same in every form of agriculture: every single input (sunlight, nitrogen, carbon, phosphorus, iron, sulphur, etc. etc. etc.) comes around through natural cycles unless supplemented by other (i.e. not sustainable) means. In your hydroponic and aeroponic and similar systems, nearly everything is artificially supplied, filtered, pumped, treated and delivered but out in rangeland it's pretty much up to Mother Nature.Now, this means that for proteins (of which a key element is nitrogen) you are either doing something unsustainable (modern bulk farming techniques as per Borlaug's Green Revolution), or you're constrained by natural cycles. For sustainable methods, this means that the maximum throughput that you can get is capped by the nitrogen cycle, or you're effectively strip-mining your soil.Cutting a long, sad story short (if you're curious about fallow periods, the limits of legume supplementation and so on, feel free to ask) you need around one hectare (about 2 acres) of prime arable (i.e. not marginal) land per person to feed them a complete protein diet including those amino acids that are tough to get through plant sources. This usually comes through a blend of a legume and a cereal - say, oats and soybeans. A straightforward calorie count is not good enough, because calories don't reflect the dietary needs of human beings. You can get this up to about four people per hectare with modern supplementation (think sacks of NPK), but the real reason for the massive production of apparently-viable vegetable crops is that we generally supplement them with meat, rendering their comparative paucity of vital amino acids unimportant.Veganism is, in fact, a choice. And for a blessed, privileged few sitting on top of a globalised food supply pyramid, it is a comforting blanket available to those who close their eyes to what it takes to produce row crops. On a global scale, it's a recipe for mass starvation.@JillsStar you might be interested in this too.
(DIR) Post #AQ2mKhVWhefpUZ1ou0 by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:26:20.063361Z
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Learn to think for yourself, faggot
(DIR) Post #AQ2mWTeI3TR9z8k7ua by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:10:29.928738Z
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@Wopu @thatguyoverthere @shauny Nowadays veggies are actually losing their nutrition tho so unfortunately even if you're not on some special diet you may still need supplements anyway :akko_weary:
(DIR) Post #AQ2najNJcwlDs6OZmq by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T10:33:19Z
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@ehhh@varishangout.net but worse for the planet, for the animals, and for human health and well-being.
(DIR) Post #AQ2ne8SaolM2XZUGo4 by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:21:06.478906Z
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@shauny Literally only 1/3 of that is true 😆
(DIR) Post #AQ2o4LuRR8B3mW0xJw by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:26:52.907916Z
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@smugumin @80085 @Halo @shauny That would be me!I am the self-declared owner of the fediverse!
(DIR) Post #AQ2of0ZniNFAKiq4Dg by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:34:26.613941Z
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@Neigh-Sayer @shauny I was kinda forced a vegetarian diet when I was a teenager. I only got meat from school cafeterias and mcDonald's.
(DIR) Post #AQ2p2mXdY1KzkrA9UO by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-11-27T23:38:46.870756Z
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@shauny @Halo @80085 @ehhh You're a special kind of faggot, huh? Thank fuck your diet will kill you before your 50s.
(DIR) Post #AQ2qHXP0DX956CixFI by 80085@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:52:18.452337Z
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@Xeraser @Halo @ehhh @shauny god i would kill for a tender and fatty smoked rack of ribs :awoo_hyper3:
(DIR) Post #AQ2qQYBsehnU9Nsrtw by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:09:36Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol @ehhh@varishangout.net are you an expert nutritionist?If not, then listen to them. https://www.organicauthority.com/buzz-news/vegan-diet-appropriate-for-all-stages-of-the-life-cycle-says-largest-group-of-nutritionists
(DIR) Post #AQ2qQYkcZXaPt88c3E by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:10:12.227508Z
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I am an expert of my own body. I didn't attend a traditional brainwashing program.
(DIR) Post #AQ2qQzacmodJ7wfVia by shauny@veganism.social
2022-11-27T13:11:08Z
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@DigitalPylon @Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol @ehhh@varishangout.net even if you are an expert of your own body (you’re not), that doesn’t mean you can speak for anybody else
(DIR) Post #AQ2qQzzRIYTyMuHKOe by DigitalPylon@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:11:20.441430Z
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True.
(DIR) Post #AQ2qc7PU3DhuZClM9I by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:55:56.988229Z
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@ehhh @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere my main diet is meat, fruit, and yogurt. As soon as I started eating like this I became much less tired and more motivated.
(DIR) Post #AQ2qe1tLXThy1zds4u by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-11-27T23:56:43.063131Z
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@80085 @Halo @ehhh @shauny Same. Don't have the space for a smoker but I do have a chimney (and even if I didn't they're extremely common here so I could just go to my best friend's house) and I used it quite a bit during the last two years :Think: Methinks it's time to start dropping by the butcher and order tomahawks again
(DIR) Post #AQ2qi1fmIKDCVjCXMO by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:24:09.587616Z
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"Hypothetical"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4637104/
(DIR) Post #AQ2qkvJgNrUTfKFQuW by Cayhr@varishangout.net
2022-11-27T23:57:51.587260Z
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@Kyonko802 @ehhh @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere I love veggies as sides. Fiber is important, especially for your stool! While you can get fiber from fruits, I also like particular vegetables for their other benefits (does maringa count as a veggie :yoko_think: ) Okra is one of my favorite vegetables, the other being winter squat or similar gourds (asian species are good too).
(DIR) Post #AQ2qmdb3EkMpHtBnhQ by Herman_Hetherington@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-27T13:26:14.286391Z
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Dang it, you've scared off the mastodonger before I had a chance to full own him.
(DIR) Post #AQ2r2lomRBX1Q3Isvw by bane@www.banepo.st
2022-11-28T00:01:10.454743Z
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@aceattorneybot @Wopu It's been a few minutes now and I'm still laughing.
(DIR) Post #AQ2rGaBkTMWZPAdJZo by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:03:36.461841Z
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@Cayhr @Wopu @ehhh @shauny @thatguyoverthere i have an almost unhealthy obsession with green beans
(DIR) Post #AQ2rIyo9uPBiL9k4zg by 80085@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:04:03.388980Z
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@Xeraser @Halo @ehhh @shauny the perfect mix is they have at least a bit of a layer of fat so it mixes with the meat and spices and cook it just enough so it starts to melt, my grandparents would make it like that and holy fuck :awoo_hyper2:
(DIR) Post #AQ2rQho30MiDvWNFp2 by Cayhr@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:04:51.752761Z
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@Kyonko802 @Wopu @ehhh @shauny @thatguyoverthere Stir fried with a bit of oil (your choice) chopped onions and garlic. :snum_sneezeandcum:
(DIR) Post #AQ2rSvYYqwK19SBpqK by Xeraser@poa.st
2022-11-28T00:05:54.918202Z
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@80085 @Halo @ehhh @shauny Yeah I always ask them to avoid trimming the fat if possibleMight just ask them to smoke them in the morning before I go pick em up then just immediately grill them at home
(DIR) Post #AQ2rUfiYiCUUbjhLQ8 by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:05:09.043678Z
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@Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere I used to just have 2 marinated eggs and evaporated milk for breakfast. I have a small appetite so the combination of that gets me full pretty easily.
(DIR) Post #AQ2sMbYwNPk9MGusgy by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:15:39.256334Z
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@Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere I really like zucchini so I'm trying to grow them myself. Eggplants too. They're not doing so well though. I hope they don't die on me bros.
(DIR) Post #AQ2sWxtiBrp7WbZXCS by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:17:47.993115Z
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@Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere I get those for take-out! The Chinese supermarket near me makes them
(DIR) Post #AQ2sZDtBhmadhWP5ou by DarkMahesvara@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:18:13.831879Z
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@ehhh @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere zucchini :antichrist:
(DIR) Post #AQ2tApWSkQ2t8LhsA4 by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T00:24:53.643820Z
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@Tamamo I think the best meats are from either steakhouses or korean/japanese bbq
(DIR) Post #AQ2w1DcyZREerQrUbw by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2022-11-27T21:21:48.130177Z
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@shauny @CatLord I’ll go vegan for a month if you get that kike that trump pardoned for running a illegals only slaughterhouse locked back up.
(DIR) Post #AQ30SLn2jMqxoMlOXw by Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T01:46:38.799975Z
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@LoliHat @shauny @ceo_of_monoeye_dating damn tree humping hippies.
(DIR) Post #AQ317qIWD0GgInGqgq by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T01:54:06.797908Z
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@LoliHat @Yakotarun @80085 @Halo @shauny It's just survival mang
(DIR) Post #AQ34IXzkthuQaMI4fo by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:29:42.756850Z
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@Koekepan As with many things in life, I believe others can eat what they want so long as they don't force me to join them. If a person only eats fruits & vegetables, they will need to add other nutrients. If a person only eats meat, they also will need to add things. A couple years ago I went on an all meat diet and added in various foods over several weeks. First 3 weeks was only beef. Then added fish because I craved sushimi. Then chicken, pork, etc. Eventually added potatoes and other vegetables. After 2 weeks of only beef, my joints were no longer inflamed and I was able to jog without pain and with smoother motion. I was shocked and I felt great. But I did need to take additional potassium and increase my salt intake. Honestly, I need to do it again but it was not an easy task and only eating meat can be boring.The real enemy is processed foods!If I drop everything that is processed by someone else, I would feel tons better. No crackers... no cookies... no F'ing soda!
(DIR) Post #AQ34iYpaPbBuhuwEGO by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:34:24.834279Z
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@JillsStar I'm pretty happy with the idea of a balanced general diet. My beef with the vegan things is their refusal to address the practicalities of agriculture. They apparently have no idea how much slaughter comes with plant agriculture, and then try to pretend that they're working from a basis of science in the service of their morality of ignorance.Then they see fit to hector people who actually do it, without whom they wouldn't be eating in the first place, and the gloves come off.
(DIR) Post #AQ34zlvqxJCGGL4nfU by lina@eientei.org
2022-11-28T02:37:30.670521Z
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@shauny do 50 pushups and then we'll talk, if you fail - you're not allowed to speak
(DIR) Post #AQ35muwaErFsOxquKu by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:46:24.376600Z
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@Koekepan It's an interesting subject and one I admittedly know little about when it comes to the cause and affect of plant agriculture along side the raising of animals for food. From a much smaller point of view, the raising of my chickens provides the beneficial supply of manure that I mix with in my compost which also consists of existing dirt and vegetation. When I grow plants and veggies using the dirt from a bag... it struggles, wilts, & dies. When I use the compost turned dirt from my backyard, plants are happy. If I had the space, wherewithal, and knowledge... I would raise a few cows/bulls and toss in a few goats and pigs. Not sure that will ever happen but I'm not afraid to learn.
(DIR) Post #AQ360AxjzcbBqaiRGK by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:48:48.147704Z
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@JillsStar I'm not a professor of agriculture, but I've been around the block. Happy to share ideas - and not at all surprised to hear that your hens are contributing to plant health. If you ever plant a tree, you can mix their manure in with the earth at the bottom of the hole to get the tree a quick boost while it settles itself.
(DIR) Post #AQ36Egcx3qjY6juXoG by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:51:25.494264Z
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@JillsStar I should also add that as fuel prices rise, and automation gradually reduces its price advantage, there is increasing interest in alternative approaches, many of which involve animal activity if not outright labour such as oxen in harness. Goats for weed control are just one famous example.
(DIR) Post #AQ36nZfCwYkse6bO7s by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:57:43.797330Z
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@Koekepan I did that with a new apple tree. One of the hens died a few months ago and I planted a shrub on top of her. This is my first flock so they are considered pets that happen to lay eggs so we didn't eat her. But she's helping out in other ways.:laugh:
(DIR) Post #AQ36tMTat1mDU2vgMi by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T02:58:46.551656Z
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@Koekepan I thought about a goat but those beasts will eat a hell of a lot more than my weeds!:bloblul:
(DIR) Post #AQ379u9XRhMiYxR9Y8 by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:01:45.943119Z
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@JillsStar There are so many aspects to this whole thing. For example, people observe that there isn't much plant agriculture in the highlands of Wyoming and Montana, and somehow conclude that there should be plant agriculture there if only in a brief growing season to deal with the climate, not realising that the altitude itself is a problem owing to reduced atmospheric density. Ironically, increased atmospheric CO2 has slightly mitigated this at the margins by providing an increased partial vapour pressure of CO2, which improves plant growth. However, low density crops in what would otherwise be fruitful rangeland are not the big win that the worshippers of row crop eating would like to imagine.They also have never used a scythe in real life, and seen how easily the blade cuts through small animals sheltering in the vegetation. There's a reason for crows keeping a sharp eye on newly harvested land.
(DIR) Post #AQ37FAnB0am9cIUPaq by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:02:43.071672Z
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@JillsStar You could consider geese. They're good watchdogs, they're grazers, and you're already familiar with poultry.
(DIR) Post #AQ37ovaP1OrOsgZ0ym by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:09:10.779880Z
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@Koekepan Lets see if I'm following what you're saying... the altitude was a problem but is overcome due to increased CO2 but... they don't want to plant what would actually grow there. That's another thing I find amusing... somehow they believe that no creature will ever be harmed if all we do is eat plants. I opened a box of cornbread mix the other day and found a couple dried up worms so I shook it through a sifter and tossed the suckers out. Still gave me the willies. If you plant it... creatures will come.
(DIR) Post #AQ38A0UDztW0A0j2J6 by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:12:59.353195Z
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@Koekepan I'm not sure I want geese. They can be very loud and wander around dropping the largest poops ever. My chickens are mostly contained so I can collect their droppings easily. If ducks weren't so loud, I would consider them... although... I heard there are some ducks which are actually quieter than chickens. I might do that!
(DIR) Post #AQ38ULsy95ZYJv06Rk by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:16:39.966249Z
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@JillsStar Quiet ducks: muscovy ducks. They're omnivores, rather like chickens.High altitude is a problem for plants, as well as other living organisms, because of the thin atmosphere. The less atmosphere, the more radiation, but also the greater climate extremes, and the lower the atmospheric pressure which helps to drive respiration.The increase in CO2 by volume in the atmosphere increases the availability of CO2 (a bit, not vastly), which means that there's a slight observed increase in plant growth (a factor important enough that climate scientists try to estimate it to include in their models) and this does help plant agriculture a little bit.The vegan crew has no apparent objection to planting whatever, but does have real difficulty acknowledging that the low fertility of many areas isn't something that can just be overcome by throwing sacks of granules at it (and often wants to ignore the sources, and prices, of those granules) because atmospheric pressure matters. A lot of the productive rangeland that supports ranching in the US is completely hopeless for row crop agriculture, or at least doesn't financially justify it (not to mention the effects on things like biodiversity) because they want to declare that all agricultural land should simply be planted with things that they could eat - nice idea, but the sums don't actually work.
(DIR) Post #AQ38dsWk9dxKA89CM4 by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T03:18:22Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar https://justicewarrior.social/@js290/108642121296399283
(DIR) Post #AQ39ERgMvRfPcT5Ob2 by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T03:24:58Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar Mark Shepard on Restoration Agriculture - Observation vs Concept... off base concepts... make mgmt decisions in wrong direction http://bit.ly/1lM3PFS
(DIR) Post #AQ39XiA5satkEQAzhI by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:28:28.693546Z
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@js290 @JillsStar I'm familiar with those calculations - and it's only a surprise to the #vegan crew that they won't be able to magically get enough of their favoured crops out without huge quantities of fossil fuels going in that direction.Mind you, not everything there has stood the test of time; there's a lot of work done on soil recovery and so on. That said, these processes again depend upon animal involvement, which makes the #vegan guys sad. If I were to look for a quick fix for a big percentage of food energy inputs going away, I'd first look at preservation systems. Refrigeration is an expensive way of keeping food wholesome.
(DIR) Post #AQ39nv5Dbd9SwKcn7w by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T03:31:22Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar Mark Shepard on Restoration Agriculture: "permaculture yard not enough" http://bit.ly/1mjR6rt
(DIR) Post #AQ3ANLTFUPCMumkzSq by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:37:48.591030Z
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@js290 @JillsStar Permaculture's a bit of a fraught concept. Regardless of what you're doing, you're dealing with the throughput of many parallel cycles. The question then becomes: how much can you take from a given set of cycles on a given acreage while staying at replenishment rate? As long as you're under that level, you're golden (sustainability-wise) but beyond that, external inputs are a requirement.
(DIR) Post #AQ3BOEofoe3OWJlefw by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T03:49:09Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar Mark Shepard on Restoration Agriculture - "Annual agriculture is all about living through our concepts... our idea we've imposed on reality & when reality doesn't behave according to our idea, what do we do? We input... we can never input enough to make our false concept correct." http://bit.ly/1GnbtAA
(DIR) Post #AQ3BgIwBETXiVvtSs4 by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T03:52:26.476849Z
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@js290 @JillsStar OK, that's all very well on a philosophical level, but I'm a practical agricultural economist. What do you want me to do with that assertion?
(DIR) Post #AQ3C6hbY8uiWXzpbUG by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T03:57:11Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar "agricultural economist" knows neither agriculture nor economics? you must have very clean fingernails, like Greta... Mike Bloomberg School of Farming..."What a tragedy it would be to think of these as fools who know (non-discriminating knowledge), yet are unaware (scientifically). To the remark that 'any fool can farm,' farmers should reply, 'a fool cannot be a true farmer.'" -Masanobu Fukuoka, The Natural Way of Farming, Life in the Farming Villages of the Past
(DIR) Post #AQ3CpkNyeKPcChxhb6 by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T04:05:21.172387Z
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@js290 @JillsStar Clean fingernails?Speak for yourself. You don't know me, and you don't know what I do, and have done.That said, if you're such an all-knowing guru of cosmic wisdom, perhaps you can explain what you're trying to get at in teeny-tiny words, so that we poor ignorant peons who are far beneath your spreading wings can understand what you're trying to convey with:"...Annual agriculture is all about living through our concepts..."Agriculture is a primary industry, involving extraction of production from land, with some possible secondary functions such as transformation and preservation. What does this have to do with living through concepts? How does one live through a concept? What are you trying to say?
(DIR) Post #AQ3FrC1TgG0I4Soq48 by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T04:39:12Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar https://justicewarrior.social/@js290/108804818299779328
(DIR) Post #AQ3GIJ5rV3KboqnZmS by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T04:44:07.764247Z
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@js290 @JillsStar Could we have fewer links to woo-woo voodoo economics and voodoo agriculture, and more specific engagement with well-defined ideas?Please, and thank you. (By the way, your shorthand description of the relationship between capital and primary producers leaves a lot to be desired.)
(DIR) Post #AQ3QMMqQUj5s9X9aW8 by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T06:36:50.479574Z
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@Immahnoob @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere Tomatoes are good, I've grown them.
(DIR) Post #AQ3QRmXEPDNvHIl0FM by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T06:37:51.331904Z
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@LoliHat @Immahnoob @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere So trueI didn't show in my photo but my rosemary are actually flowering!
(DIR) Post #AQ3QUIHhKheUKIgnh2 by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T06:38:15.860023Z
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@LoliHat @Immahnoob @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere I used to have ornamental peppers!
(DIR) Post #AQ3QZKY8L4BSncmKcy by iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org
2022-11-28T06:39:13.244237Z
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@shauny
(DIR) Post #AQ3TtS88AD2Jxqu1PE by ehhh@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T07:16:27.533535Z
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@LoliHat @Cayhr @Immahnoob @Kyonko802 @Wopu @shauny @thatguyoverthere oh shit, that's lit!I can't do that to mine though because it's in an assorted pot lol.
(DIR) Post #AQ3UEz0r6NS01slYuW by 80085@varishangout.net
2022-11-28T07:20:21.292119Z
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@shauny look what you've done retard, you've made so many people happy and discussing much more helpful things than veganism. you should be proud of yourself for being the punching bag that got these pleasantries going :flan_think:
(DIR) Post #AQ3Zy6tN9YAvGibU6y by sapphire@shortstackran.ch
2022-11-28T08:24:23.859633Z
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@shauny @Herman_Hetherington @ehhh Morphine is also water-soluble and excreted through urine, so you're telling me opioids are completely safe and impossible to overdose on, right?
(DIR) Post #AQ3xopOrDW0nJMRAYq by branman65@poa.st
2022-11-28T12:51:49.147292Z
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@shauny Veganism is unsustainable. Eat meat. Everyone eats meat. It’s healthy and nutritious. Veganism is to starvation what waterboarding is to drowning. Also plants can feel pain
(DIR) Post #AQ4Bh8P84eKVIHn2nI by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2022-11-28T15:27:11.122635Z
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@LovecraftEnthusiast @CatLord @shauny such is life with a protein deficient brain
(DIR) Post #AQ4C5uOtHEnr6LUXfk by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2022-11-28T15:31:36.998451Z
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@shauny MAYBE THEY, AND YOU, SHOULD STOP BEING SUCH WHINY FAGGOTS
(DIR) Post #AQ4Dk8jxTtaH745rRg by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-28T15:50:10.453Z
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@shauny@veganism.social lol nah
(DIR) Post #AQ4YMwPTG1Y9FQI2AS by yaboisugoi@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T19:41:22.108971Z
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@JillsStar @Koekepan i committed to a keto diet starting 2021 and lost 14 kilos over 3 monthsI felt great mentally and physically for the next 6 monthsThen after that i started to be unable to sleep, because it turns out your brain needs some carb intake in the afternoon to burn it while you're sleeping/going to sleep, and without any you'll still feel exhausted but never really fall asleep. And in that state if you try to drink one of those herbal teas intended to make you sleepy, instead you'll get a massive headacheSo i had to start eating 1 spoon of honey in the afternoon (with tea or lemonade or w/e to make it a nicer experience) and then my ability to sleep got fixedNowadays i allow myself alot of cheat days but i still stick to keto diet because it generally pushes you to aim for healthier protein and fat rich foods by default as opposed to junk food and all kinds of sugar soda. Not to mention the clarity of thought that comes with it
(DIR) Post #AQ4oD2OPkyTeAs5yAi by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2022-11-28T22:38:47.528463Z
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@shauny I SAID STOP BEING A WHINY FAGGOT NOT DOUBLE DOWN ON BEING WHINIER AND FAGGIER
(DIR) Post #AQ4oaSdsKPb6FIUorI by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T22:43:05.541967Z
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@yaboisugoi @Koekepan It sounds like that was about 10 pounds each month which is pretty much what I lost. In about two months I lost 20 pounds.I did not have problems with sleep, but needed a supplement that helped me get rid of waste a little easier. Turns out fiber is an important part of my diet. 🤣 One option is slippery elm.Adding potatoes helped me with the carb intake. One huge benefit I had was the ability to fast for two days. Without being hungry. I woke up one morning and didn’t eat and didn’t get hungry for the longest time. I really need to do that again! Although a couple weeks ago, I woke up and wasn’t hungry and didn’t eat for a day and a half and I am not doing an all meat diet right now. Maybe that means I’ve trained my body that it’s OK not to eat for a while.
(DIR) Post #AQ4pgKCOjTwDke0IFM by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-28T22:55:20Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar is an "agricultural economist" anything like a "whale biologist?" https://youtu.be/sbpjPRoSvLYThe Four Principles of Natural Farming 1. No cultivation2. No fertilizer3. No weeding4. No pesticides https://www.motherearthnews.com/sustainable-living/nature-and-environment/masanobu-fukuoka-zmaz82jazgoe/
(DIR) Post #AQ4v7GJRn037HtxtUe by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-28T23:56:15.030221Z
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@js290 @JillsStar An agricultural economist is an economist with a focus on the processes, inputs, outputs, markets and related functions of agriculture. It is someone with knowledge of, for example, seed sources, futures markets, logistics of perishable crops and so on.Basically, an economist with a specialty.
(DIR) Post #AQ4wpJFCLqOt4jXqD2 by sapphire@shortstackran.ch
2022-11-29T00:15:14.305306Z
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@skylar @shauny vegan can't handle the banter what a shock
(DIR) Post #AQ4xNi78OMLE3PB1H6 by yaboisugoi@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T00:21:37.991180Z
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@JillsStar @Koekepan niceYeah at the very start (after the initial 2 weeks of struggle) i started losing 1 kilo per day for 2 days, then the amount i lost halved for the next 2 days and so on until i lost all the fatI did have a significant loss in appetite as well, which was good for me because i've been skipping breakfast my whole life (meaning i've been doing intermittent fasting without even knowing it) and its much easier to do on ketothere was one day when i had just a couple slices of butter and that was enough, but i probably would get exhausted easily if i tried fasting for multiple daysLuckily i dont have the fiber problem haha
(DIR) Post #AQ4xUdrkaJXAuDHnzk by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T00:22:53.152690Z
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@js290 @JillsStar OK, so I looked at the article.1. No cultivation. Except for planting. That doesn't count because of ... reasons that totally matter and you'll explain any time now.2. No fertiliser, except for the nutrients in the mulches that he explicitly expects to go into the soil, and of course the nitrogen fixing of wild legumes. That doesn't count as fertiliser because of ... more reasons that you'll get right on explaining as soon as you get off the not-cultivation explanation.3. No weeding, except for cover crop and mulch choking, which is totally not a weeding approach because of ... more reasons you'll get to, real soon now.4. No pesticides, because anything that succumbs to pests clearly had it coming.Based on his own reporting, from my perspective, he's cultivating (in some cases by using biological ploughs such as daikon), fertilising, and weeding, just not by usual methods. If he's using push-pull at all, he's doing pesticide work as well, just doing it differently.You'll be amazed to learn that I use damn near the same processes - for an introduction, find out what an obstwiese is, then come back.
(DIR) Post #AQ4xXw25Uv147LgwQi by branman65@poa.st
2022-11-29T00:23:28.675195Z
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@skylar @shauny Mastadon users are retarded
(DIR) Post #AQ4zEUBmzkGeAW5DTk by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T00:42:21Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar "Nature can never be understood or improved upon by human effort. In the end, to become one with nature, to live with God, one cannot help others or even receive help from them. We can only walk our paths alone." -Masanobu Fukuoka, One Straw Revolution
(DIR) Post #AQ4zPSmUZPfczGU85w by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T00:44:20Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar “Think before you speak. Read before you think. This will give you something to think about that you didn’t make up yourself – a wise move at any age, but most especially at seventeen, when you are in the greatest danger of coming to annoying conclusions.”— Fran Lebowitzhttps://twitter.com/TalebWisdom/status/1501959626765611011
(DIR) Post #AQ4zuhh9AfKIDbsiBc by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T00:50:00.358800Z
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@js290 @JillsStar Groovy. If you happen to share his religion, bully for you.There are other approaches to life, and to agriculture, and to sustainability. There are also more complete ways of looking at things, such as understanding how to use a biological plough to break up hardpan on abused soil, and understanding that it's just as much an aspect of cultivation as using goats to control kudzu is an aspect of weeding.Turns out, this stuff is complicated, and religious devotions add more heat than light because they don't reach people who don't have the same creed.
(DIR) Post #AQ4zvMiedxtTS9tzjE by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T00:50:07.535052Z
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@yaboisugoi @Koekepan Intermittent fasting is very beneficial and helps me with my struggles with process food start to finish. If I can go longer than 18 hours,I do.
(DIR) Post #AQ50WmuwCcDrQ5UYyG by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T00:56:53.326745Z
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@Koekepan @js290 I enjoy conversations about many things especially when a person can speak for themselves and not just rely on quotes of others or links requiring me to figure out what they want to say. It’s okay to provide such details as a small part of the overall conversation but not as the full argument. They should be used to show source material or back up a claim but not as the conversation itself. At that point they become talking points and a way of trying to dumb down the other person. If you want to debate, okay. If you want to try and show superiority, I’m not interested. Copy/Paste is not a sign of superiority.
(DIR) Post #AQ50xqcAZ2FQhncGgK by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T01:01:46.740729Z
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@JillsStar @js290 I like to think that I brought up substantive points, beyond what one might find in Mother Earth News, or for that matter Mother Jones.
(DIR) Post #AQ50zTnKNaBaVec6b2 by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T01:02:03Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar https://twitter.com/TalebWisdom/status/1578625853109555200?s=20lol, your "economics" religion... https://freespeechextremist.com/objects/88b0f9a5-b76b-40d0-b76b-e7e4015a19fd
(DIR) Post #AQ515Jr4FQGtQ59CgS by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T01:03:06Z
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@JillsStar @Koekepan fedi users can't find "source material" if it a link and/or author are in the toot 🤣
(DIR) Post #AQ51ZoWulOkZFBGJJA by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T01:08:37Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar sure for a "agricultural economist" 🤣
(DIR) Post #AQ521BXzIGw6Rvod5E by Koekepan@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T01:13:35.244767Z
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@js290 @JillsStar I shouldn't feed the troll, but what the hell, in the interests of public education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_economics
(DIR) Post #AQ5340qNe2fU4oKZEG by js290@justicewarrior.social
2022-11-29T01:25:16Z
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@Koekepan @JillsStar ok, you convinced me to enroll in Mike Bloomberg's School of Farming... 🤣
(DIR) Post #AQ53LHwnJ9AU2qZJQ0 by yaboisugoi@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T01:28:25.529187Z
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@shauny @fartkart @Wopu if living green requires the government to force feed me chicken fodder, then the planet can go kill itself
(DIR) Post #AQ54MgQRsq1gCsfUGG by yaboisugoi@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T01:39:52.951471Z
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@JillsStar @Koekepan I've noticed that if i eat at fixed hours in the day the digestive system learns to expect it at those hours, so you could try picking eating hours like 1pm and 6pm (or some hours closer closer) and see if your body will get used to jt over some weeksAlso for the same reason eating in the early hours of the day when you usually sleep is a very bad idea - its how you can speedrun getting acid reflux during sleep
(DIR) Post #AQ54gf5MZkLrqHKdua by JillsStar@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-29T01:43:29.599722Z
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@yaboisugoi @Koekepan I used to be good at it. Eat between noon and 6pm but then I convince myself, like right now, to eat a turkey sandwich 😎But if I don’t eat after 6pm, I almost always wake a pound lighter than the morning previous.