Post APzzq95WvO2dwHJUIq by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
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(DIR) Post #APzYedV7KNFW1bZKfg by governa@fosstodon.org
2022-11-26T09:44:16Z
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wish #sokpop :netherlands: games introduced native #linux support... 🤞 :linux: :steam: :steamdeck:
(DIR) Post #APzYedyXYymjUrKpX6 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T09:50:57.576649Z
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@governa Why are you begging for proprietary software to be ported and corrupt GNU/Linux more than it already is? I wish they stay far far away unless they're looking to release their games as free software (as in freedom) and in that case they're welcome.
(DIR) Post #APzgP7v1GafJMcnevw by governa@fosstodon.org
2022-11-26T10:04:24Z
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@Suiseiseki Wouldn't that be great? Who knows, maybe they'll make it happen. I am a big #FOSS proponent but proprietary software isn't inherently evil in my humble opinion. For instance, #Steam is great! So are #Vivaldi, #GOG, #inSync, #Plex, #Authy, etc. I am Ricardo, not Richard. 😉 :thinking_rms: In the end I'm for choice, whatever floats your boat.
(DIR) Post #APzgP8MfbmmckNjk24 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T11:17:46.573690Z
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@governa >I am a big #FOSS proponentGNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!!!>proprietary software isn't inherently evil in my humble opinionYour opinion is wrong, proprietary software is evil incarnate.Imagine a chef that prepares food.This chef refuses to tell you the recipe and usually even what ingredients he uses - because the food is proprietary. If you're allergic to anything, or prefer it without the salt - too bad.Half the time the chef slips in poison - usually not enough to kill you, but enough to cause you harm.With hard work, you can reverse engineer the food to figure out what ingredients the food is made out of and if it's poisoned - but the potential poisoner often demands that you agree to not reverse engineer, so you don't find out which ingredients he uses.You can keep eating the food with blind faith in the chef and get poisoned 50-100% of the time, or you can stop being a sucker and go to GNU/Cafe and get some decent food that is checked to be free of poison.>#Steam is great! So are #Vivaldi, #GOG, #inSync, #Plex, #AuthyThose programs are great at taking the users freedom and being proprietary malware.Sure they're really convenient, but only a fool values convenience above all else.>In the end I'm for choice, whatever floats your boat.Where did I say I'm going to stop you from shooting your foot?I'm here recommending that you stop shooting your feet, but you're telling me you like shooting your feet?
(DIR) Post #APzkyb3XKHEfgSx7jM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T12:09:00.326045Z
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@governa I can't believe I forgot the image.
(DIR) Post #APznxIFA5JWCuXSb9E by governa@fosstodon.org
2022-11-26T12:26:31Z
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@Suiseiseki well... if Richard Stallman is the #FOSS chef, I'll have no problem visiting a #proprietary Restaurant instead, that's for sure. :linus: 👉 https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQEnjoy your weekend, take it easy.
(DIR) Post #APznxIuHcQPay4hRFA by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T12:42:22.703194Z
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@governa >well... if Richard Stallman is the #FOSS chefrms is the free software chef: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.htmlrms's foot cheese is a once in a life time delicacy that I wouldn't pass up - absolutely delicious.>I'll have no problem visiting a #proprietary Restaurant instead >Linus photoLinux is proprietary software, so Linus would be a chef in a proprietary restaurant.>Enjoy your weekend, take it easy.I'm make sure to take it twice as hard.
(DIR) Post #APzoNf8daKmvRlyyTQ by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T12:36:40.893427Z
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@Suiseiseki @governa I actually like this take, can't wait for you to grow up and start hating RMS thou
(DIR) Post #APzoNfXo4kvAhpl4hk by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T12:47:08.270731Z
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@cafkafk >can't wait for you to grow up and start hating RMS thou Hate is not a thing you "grow up" to do - you grown down when you hate.I see a goal to strive for unflinchingly with enemies to eliminate on the way - there's no need to hate.I have done extensive research on what rms has done and has allegedly done and I cannot find anything he has actually done to hate him for.There's many nasty allegations, but if you actually look for the facts, most of those allegations are untrue.
(DIR) Post #APzp4tnkwY5XNNpeds by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T12:49:19.400792Z
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@Suiseiseki yea not having this debate anymore lol, what free software are you writing, how much money do you give to the FSF, what are some actions you are taking to promote free and open source software?
(DIR) Post #APzp4uIb5sl4v2GHiK by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T12:54:56.889544Z
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@cafkafk >what free software are you writingPlenty really, I have a fairly large cgit repo.>how much money do you give to the FSFThat's not important, but I am a member.>what are some actions you are taking to promote free and open source software? I'm focusing on eliminating "open source", as that just leads to proprietary software: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.htmlI also sometimes look into {L}GPL violations and document the violations so the copyright holder can get in there and ensure freedom.
(DIR) Post #APzpdbE208BztlfVjM by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T12:58:20.573712Z
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@Suiseiseki > I'm focusing on eliminating "open source"based> Plenty really, I have a fairly large cgit repo.based, you should make it easier to find> That's not important, but I am a member.valid> I also sometimes look into {L}GPL violations and document the violations so the copyright holder can get in there and ensure freedom.validguess I'll hope you change your mind then
(DIR) Post #APzpdbkI4BzrVolH0q by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:01:13.238772Z
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@cafkafk Why do you want me to change my mind?Going against rms entirely, would be going against free software really.What did rms do that you hate him for?Please tell me and I'll soon be able to determine if it is the truth.
(DIR) Post #APzqIUaLarIPB4bcxc by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:05:53.888631Z
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@Suiseiseki > Please tell me and I'll soon be able to determine if it is the truth.I have done so many times to people in bad faith so it's a bit tiring but here you go (this is just a fraction of the criticism that can be raised):https://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYfTW84yJdg9Sw0sShttps://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYpyEpGM3sf0LQAL2https://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYijLTgdovdc2HSIShttps://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYivxozuEcs0aGW5A https://techrights.org/wiki/Look_How_Many_F%27s_They_Give
(DIR) Post #APzqIUzA6b94Q2DRdg by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:08:37.600249Z
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@cafkafk >https://techrights.org/wiki/Look_How_Many_F%27s_They_GiveThose are allegations against the FSF, not against rms, but I'll look into them.As for the rest, well:>To use Pleroma, please enable JavaScript.So you need to give me a date range, so I can look up your posts.
(DIR) Post #APzrFqTrpWhiAdsPlw by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:10:13.948047Z
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@Suiseiseki >To use Pleroma, please enable JavaScript.fixed it here you go (consider using https://jshelter.org/)
(DIR) Post #APzrFr07taVZmgyB3Q by iska@mk.starnix.network
2022-11-26T13:19:23.567Z
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@cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com librejs is such a meme FSF made jshelterit doesn't even accept its own website (hurd.gnu.org)
(DIR) Post #APzrQONQey9KC3tVXE by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:21:05.841804Z
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@iska @Suiseiseki librejs is kind of a meme, but also it works fine for me just now
(DIR) Post #APzrRMM5f4jIDHjHmK by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:21:26.387744Z
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@cafkafk >OctoGNU timelineThese are complaints about GNU programs being developed on github.I don't like that either, but you can really clone and view most of github still without running any proprietary software, so there's no grave software freedom issue for me.I did leave a mental note to look into such projects later.>Telemetry in Mozilla FirefoxTelemetry is nasty, but telemetry code and even GPLv3'd malware can be free software - but that doesn't mean the software does good things.GNU icecat has the spying removed.>The Future of LinuxLinus is not a GNU project, so I have no idea why this is listed.I'm pretty sure the "monitoring" things are disabled in GNU Linux-libre.>* Clownflare Breaks the Web-- one of the greater scourges online- think the FSF is up to fighting it? The FSF does not use clownflare.rms has posted about it as well: https://stallman.org/cloudflare.html>* The Web is Broken Anyway-- thank Mozilla and Google. >Don't expect a lot of criticism of Google https://stallman.org/google.htmlhttps://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-google.html>https://techrights.org/2020/08/30/fsf-censorship-mailing-list/Seems to be about censorship on the libreplanet mailing list, which is organized by the FSF, but in that case a mailing list volunteer would be doing the censorship and not the FSF.The page mentions a lot of things that are not really relevant to software.
(DIR) Post #APzrUzOKyxDa9PVl1E by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:22:06.140463Z
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@cafkafk A sandbox doesn't fix the problem of arbitrary code execution sorry.
(DIR) Post #APzruOgC6CL5osyl16 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:26:41.386291Z
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@cafkafk >https://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYivxozuEcs0aGW5AThis is about the FSF, not rms>Hmm, librejs is on github?That's a mirror, the source is here: https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/Anyone can upload free software to github.>Hmm, Gnu-IceCat is on github?That's a mirror, the source and binaries are here: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/
(DIR) Post #APzsS8jNtxvACaYqQq by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:32:47.146838Z
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@cafkafk >https://pleroma.cafkafk.com/notice/APYpyEpGM3sf0LQAL2I see nothing insulting or wrong in that email.It's rms noting his opinion about how he would like components of emacs to be structured.He makes a polite request for facilities to be separated and I see nothing wrong with that. lxo explains why your complaints are invalid.In conclusion, I see a bunch of hate for seemingly no reason and you are wrong.
(DIR) Post #APzskVCT6JMh6Kv8l6 by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:30:45.197913Z
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@Suiseiseki > This is about the FSF, not rmsso you agree he is nothing more than a puppet head that could be gotten rid of anyways?
(DIR) Post #APzskXTYdkDu9uvofo by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:36:05.706935Z
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@cafkafk The FSF has no sense of direction without rms and it would be utter foolishness to get rid of someone who fights for freedom without wavering.You want to see him gone because of issues you made up - I'm quite disgusted with you.
(DIR) Post #APztJKTSyGnlyGThUu by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:42:24.191725Z
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@iska >it doesn't even accept its own website (hurd.gnu.org)The JavaScript on hurd.gnu.org doesn't list a license and is nontrivial, so obviously librejs won't load it.I would suggest you report the issue of the unlicensed JS.The site works just as well without JavaScript as it should.
(DIR) Post #APztVfDdfVgtmhxMXI by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:41:54.021451Z
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@Suiseiseki because you're not using javascript it didn't automatically scroll down to the actual point lol> In conclusion, I see a bunch of hate for seemingly no reason and you are wrong.ohh such a suprise that you would come to that conclusion
(DIR) Post #APztVffI0hoDAStRdQ by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:44:29.968528Z
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@cafkafk >it didn't automatically scroll down to the actual point lolYou made a few different posts, so I replied directly to the post I was replying to.
(DIR) Post #APzts2z5zQmbrXpLZQ by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:43:43.294173Z
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@Suiseiseki > You want to see him gone because of issues you made up - I'm quite disgusted with you.you didn't respond to my actual critiques only critiques of others and your answers never actually engaged with anything,so you 1. haven't even addressed any of my concerns2. called me disgustingyet you keep calling me hateful?now get lost, I saw this coming when we started
(DIR) Post #APzts3Q2NGKlD6QrZ2 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:48:40.082166Z
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@cafkafk >1. haven't even addressed any of my concernsI analyzed each of the sources you provided to me and listed what my conclusion was.For that long post, lxo addressed all your concerns, so I have nothing more to add than to what he wrote.>2. called me disgustingI didn't call you disgusting, I noted that I was disgusted by the sort of comment you made about wishing to cancel someone over nothing.>yet you keep calling me hateful?I'm attacking your points rather than you.I'm not actively trying to cancel someone and you're the one who wrote about hating rms.
(DIR) Post #APzts4W6ICmIcCHDea by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:44:08.340908Z
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@Suiseiseki like ffs you didn't even read my arguments because you don't use js and didn't realize you had to scroll down
(DIR) Post #APzujYG8RQJgCwJI92 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T13:58:20.835686Z
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@MischievousTomato Nice proprietary malware: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi.html
(DIR) Post #APzvY9zeQ9fviWjR7A by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:50:42.273746Z
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@Suiseiseki > I'm not actively trying to cancel someone neither am I> I didn't call you disgusting, I noted that I was disgusted by the sort of comment you made about wishing to cancel someone over nothing.< You want to see him gone because of issues you made up - I'm quite disgusted with you.the mental gymnastics on display here mirrors those of RMS defenders in general, I'm not interested in engaging with people that don't reside in reality enjoy your narcissistic cult
(DIR) Post #APzvYAWyQGKXNsK33Q by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T13:57:52.349696Z
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@Suiseiseki > I noted that I was disgusted by the sort of comment you made about wishing to cancel someone over nothing.And let me be clear I never said I wanted to cancel him, you're still projecting this strawman social justice warrior thing over me but it just doesn't fit with the reality. You're literally just fighting strawmen and being defensive to the laughter of everyone onlooker which is excactly my problem with the FSF in general, at this point it's just a narcissist cult making a laughing stock of free software, and even your whole larpy “gnu jihad” is just another aspect of that.GNU is largely over at this point, the only interesting projects have made very clear their stance against RMS, ultimately I think many important people have left the FSF and GNU related projects over the FSF childlike antics and inability to take responsibility. Not to speak of all the women that find the FSF reprehensible that the FSF have scared off from free software entirely because they try to position themselves as the only vanguards of a movement they continually fail to propegate.The FSF and RMS have censored, have ignored the wishes of the community many times, have held no respect to the members by electing RMS without a vote, and those that were censored when they were sad of his departure now think that the FSF is reformed just because the chief coward is back. RMS is little more than a walking embarasment, living of speaking engagement money and spreading fear of free software from his absolute deranged world views and inability to take responsibility. The FSF and RMS are a sad joke that I hope fade to obscurity, if I was a microsoft employe I couldn't have constructed a better false flag than the FSF and RMS, it's shameful.
(DIR) Post #APzvYB3aT0Pz11a5tA by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:02:36.345642Z
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@Suiseiseki The FSF has become the PETA of free software, a sad joke corrupted by greed, hubris and narcissism, and a nostalgia for a time when they still had relevance (a time that never really came). They also reject that obvious truth that the linux kernel has been the flagship model of free software, and in their incompetence managed to sour that relationship till it sank.
(DIR) Post #APzvYBaCVkVQeAq8iu by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-11-26T14:07:29.631505Z
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@cafkafk @Suiseiseki if the flagship of free software is being surrounded almost exclusively in big corpos i think the plot has been a bit fucked beyond recognition :blobcatgoogly:
(DIR) Post #APzvuyHy6WVA4oB1yi by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:11:36.129362Z
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@cafkafk >let me be clear I never said I wanted to cancel himYou were implying you wanted him removed from the FSF, which is cancelling.>You're literally just fighting strawmenYes, it's good fun.>at this point it's just a narcissist cult making a laughing stock of free software,You don't seem to understand what a cult or narcissism is.There would be nothing more based than GNU/Cult, but there sadly isn't one.>GNU is largely over at this pointYou wish, but too bad, we're here and this is just the beginning.>the only interesting projects have made very clear their stance against RMSI don't care about proprietary software projects.>I think many important people have left the FSF and GNU related projects over the FSF childlike antics and inability to take responsibility.I don't know of a single "important" person who has left the FSF and GNU.>Not to speak of all the women that find the FSF reprehensible As far as I am aware, that is because they're told to find the FSF reprehensible, which most people then will do without checking, male or female and not because the FSF is reprehensible.>the FSF have scared off from free software entirely because they try to position themselves as the only vanguards of a movement they continually fail to propegate.The FSF has scared off people from free software by not faltering when it comes to free software?The FSF is really the only vanguards of the movement - most of the other foundations I know of love their proprietary software.We won't sacrifice the whole point just to become popular.>The FSF and RMS have censored, have ignored the wishes of the community many timesYou haven't provided any hard evidence of censorship.>have held no respect to the members by electing RMS without a voteThe FSF is rms, so a vote would really be a complete waste of time.>just because the chief coward is back.I don't thinks he's the coward sorry.>spreading fear of free software from his absolute deranged world views and inability to take responsibilityHis world views when it comes to software are correct.If spreading the truth is spreading fear, so be it.>The FSF and RMS are a sad joke that I hope fade to obscurityYou wish, but too bad, we're not going anywhere.>if I was a microsoft employe I couldn't have constructed a better false flag than the FSF and RMSYou seem to be using the meaning of "false flag" incorrectly.
(DIR) Post #APzvyjkO6ygA8QGW7k by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:08:31.007979Z
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@icedquinn @Suiseiseki I agree, literally, and it happened on the FSFs watch, they were to busy eating stuff from their toes and circlejerking over the purity of debian to get anything done
(DIR) Post #APzvykNNlzs45MVeu8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2022-11-26T14:12:18.289753Z
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@cafkafk @Suiseiseki people like to hate on them but one has to observe that the GPL license has always been maligned ... by corpos.they only spoke positively of it during a twilight where they learned they could cheat it with a proxy server or a DRM chip. suddenly when that option is gone, the GPL was bad again.there's not a whole lot a think tank can do when an infinite supply of neoserfs happily sell themselves to everyone under the sun.
(DIR) Post #APzw5oBU0sbXvIJLAO by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:13:34.378944Z
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@cafkafk >They also reject that obvious truth that the linux kernel has been the flagship model of free softwareLinux is proprietary software, so that's the flagship of proprietary software, not free software.>in their incompetence managed to sour that relationship till it sank. There was no relationship to sour - people went out of their way and started attacking for not much reason.
(DIR) Post #APzwhXtJ2US4OXnrhw by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:20:23.104007Z
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@icedquinn >one has to observe that the GPL license has always been maligned ... by corpos.There is not just one GPL license, there's the GPLv1, GPLv2 and GPLv3.Corpos love violating the GPLv{2,3} and getting away with it, but I'll get every last one eventually.>they learned they could cheat it with a proxy server or a DRM chip. suddenly when that option is gone, the GPL was bad again.In the case of SaaSS, the software is not running on your computer, so no conveying has been done, so copyright law doesn't apply.The AGPLv3 uses contract law I believe to try and prevent the SaaSS problem.As for digital handcuffs, no version of the GPL forbids implementing those - you just need to provide the source code of the software and thus allow the digital handcuffs to be unlocked.If you're referring to tivotization, the GPLv2 doesn't permit that - enforcing it is just hard, as you would need to get lawyers and judge to understand what an executable is.The GPLv3 actually has more exceptions that the GPLv2 - so it's a less restrictive license, rather than a more restrictive one.
(DIR) Post #APzxHwJXiBukZDQfoW by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:24:37.659350Z
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@Suiseiseki > I don't care about proprietary software projects.guix
(DIR) Post #APzxHwoNrWaI6rrIsy by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:26:57.450052Z
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@cafkafk Yes, one person who managed the Guix website made a nasty post and I'm not sure if it's removed now or still up.I wouldn't extrapolate that to all developers though, as if that was the case, why would Guix still be in the GNU project then?
(DIR) Post #APzxX7U2T0R5YGZqJk by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:26:49.865698Z
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@Suiseiseki > The FSF is rms, so a vote would really be a complete waste of time.earlier you said I was criticising the FSF and not RMS, not you think they are the same thing.Reality is what you need it to be isn't it?How awfully convenient, enjoy your fantasy world with the rest of the larpers
(DIR) Post #APzxX7tuun8UqWgVea by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:29:42.399348Z
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@cafkafk >use a search engine I have used a search engine and found plenty of lies and also the truth.>earlier you said I was criticising the FSF and not RMS, not you think they are the same thing.Yes, I slipped up.*The FSF is made to be headed by rms - no other head makes any sense and so voting on who should be the head makes no sense.There are other parts of the FSF that do other things, as those parts are controlled by other people.
(DIR) Post #APzydoRpjsIMUlIig4 by iska@mk.starnix.network
2022-11-26T14:42:10.879Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com have you looked into the javascript sources? it's extremely trivial and even has comments, yet librejs still false negatives.furaffinity is even simpler and it's still blocked.
(DIR) Post #APzymId1PdmiPma58y by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:43:33.578560Z
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@cafkafk I was writing from memory and just because I remembered wrong doesn't mean I lied.So it was 33 losers and not 1? Okay.Are they still Guix maintainers?
(DIR) Post #APzzq95WvO2dwHJUIq by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:49:00.786687Z
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@Suiseiseki If the amount doesn't matter why would you mention it, except if you were in bad faith and just trying to win.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
(DIR) Post #APzzqAQTwyOa5Y7jbE by cafkafk@pleroma.cafkafk.com
2022-11-26T14:49:39.050159Z
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@Suiseiseki > So it was 33 losers and not 1? Okay.each of them have done more for free software in a day than you will do in a lifetime, calling them losers is a bit delusional but not surprising given the level of debate that you operate on. Please fuck off now.
(DIR) Post #APzzqBBd7g6qRmBO5Y by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T14:55:32.390443Z
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@cafkafk >each of them have done more for free software in a day than you will do in a lifetimeYou sure like to make big claims.The scaling doesn't really work out.I'm sorry, you're a loser if you put your name in a defamatory joint statement, as why wouldn't you be?
(DIR) Post #AQ00lumEI8xsLhpeWe by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-11-26T15:05:58Z
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@icedquinn @Suiseiseki @cafkafk it's really sad to see the free/nonfree sides turn into the anticapitalism/procommerce war. it's really dumb. you can be commercial and respect freedoms. the agpl (nonfree!) is a great example of this damage spreading in the foss world.
(DIR) Post #AQ01q5YyENI0ukBUzw by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-26T15:17:56.989014Z
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@sneak >the agpl (nonfree!)Which version are you referring to? There's the original AGPL and the AGPLv3.Can you quote parts of the AGPLv3 that violate one or more of the 4 freedoms?: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#four-freedomsYou don't need to share the modified source of AGPLv3 programs if you don't convey them nor make them available over a network service.>a great example of this damage spreading in the foss world."open source" alone is greatly damaging to the free software world.
(DIR) Post #AQ05omfXOPZ1qHtDDE by Ceyal@social.ceyal.me
2022-11-26T15:33:21.562979Z
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@sneak @icedquinn @Suiseiseki @cafkafk I am curious on why you say AGPL is non free? Do you have a link to an article/explanation? A quick search returned nothing
(DIR) Post #AQ05onDZLsmnXpoOG0 by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-11-26T16:02:28Z
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@Ceyal @Suiseiseki @icedquinn @cafkafk the agpl restricts my rights to privacy depending on whether apache is running or not.
(DIR) Post #AQ05sHWr72YaQCUqJ6 by Wopu@freethinkers.lgbt
2022-11-26T15:21:16.961610Z
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@sneak @icedquinn @Suiseiseki @cafkafk Is the AGPL license a problem in and of itself or is it the conversation that it brought up?
(DIR) Post #AQ05sI0HLe5ntSGLAW by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-11-26T16:03:08Z
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@Wopu @icedquinn @Suiseiseki @cafkafk both, actually. the fsf is a bunch of anticapitalist zealots who mott-and-bailey about "but we think you can and should make money with free software!". the agpl is also a nonfree license, separately.
(DIR) Post #AQ05w7L2wUWfyUnlwW by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-11-26T16:03:50Z
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@Suiseiseki agpl violates my rights to privacy depending on whether or not httpd is running. it's insane that doing network compute should expose you to having to publish files on your own disk.
(DIR) Post #AQ084x5CdpXWgMjPgu by lxo@gnusocial.net
2022-11-26T16:06:33Z
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I wouldn't go that far. the FSF could and should be able to run without RMS, but it would be far worse off. our community, the FSF included, would benefit from lot more people's having RMS's vision, strategy, political skills, determination, dedication, altruism, kindness and resilience to withstand all the hatred that defying established powers brings on, but getting all of these together in a single person has proven to be an extremely rare feature set
(DIR) Post #AQ08IQ8bvXPMYjkQQi by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-26T16:30:16.512Z
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@lxo@gnusocial.net I personally would also be very concerned if the FSF could not operate without RMS. People don't live forever and he will be gone one day, the free software movement can't end there.
(DIR) Post #AQ1kvjJaYGxukJ0uTg by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
2022-11-27T11:17:48Z
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@Suiseiseki it violates freedom 0, the freedom to run modified private copies on a webserver. freedom 0 specifically indicates "for any purpose", and that means running a private modified version for profit.agpl disrespects developer rights to privacy. there is a material difference between offering a network service and distributing software. there is no ethical framework in which i should have to give you source to code that runs on *my* hardware.