Post APxg2EErDM8lzLEyGm by liaizon@social.wake.st
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(DIR) Post #APsikWs0X5WQdH0MnQ by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-23T02:39:55Z
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You have to take care to recognize all the other software and protocols in the fediverse. You can't just call it all "Mastodon".
(DIR) Post #APsnX0LedVuBm3F5Qe by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-23T03:34:06.883536Z
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@evan Strong agree for software but I would say that Fediverse is basically a loose ActivityPub profile for the past few years, others like Diaspora being doing their own things.Even more for XMPP clients with microblogging like Salut-À-Toi and Movim.
(DIR) Post #APtZHRCRpZxMDdZxI0 by cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site
2022-11-23T12:29:43.860419Z
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I'm a "GNU/Linux" and "not real socialism/egoism/anarchism/individualism" guy so… Yeah, I'm a bit biased here.
(DIR) Post #APtZjMmnpmZCdetvmK by cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site
2022-11-23T12:34:47.819135Z
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I'm a "GNU/Linux" and "not real socialism" kind of guy so… Yeah, I'm a bit biased here.
(DIR) Post #APtdPnr5siPEcKpqHg by eloquence@social.coop
2022-11-23T02:41:42Z
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@evan It's kind of like people calling Wikipedia "wiki". I think it's fine if folks discover the breadth of the fediverse over time. :)
(DIR) Post #APtdPoFCR5gjp675rE by smallcircles@social.coop
2022-11-23T13:15:11Z
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@eloquence @evan No, it is like people calling wiki's "Wikipedia".And calling all email software "Gmail".
(DIR) Post #APtdfgVswli8TnUJTk by dick_turpin@mastodon.org.uk
2022-11-23T13:18:16Z
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@evan Given that nearly three-quarters of computer users still do not understand the difference between a Web Browser and the Internet, I'm not convinced they would understand the distinction between the Fediverse and, effectively, the client, Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #APtoUKDoaJMfecp040 by cwebber@octodon.social
2022-11-23T12:29:43Z
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@evan Babe, you have to take care to recognize all the other software and protocols in the fediverse!! You can't just call it all "Mastodon"!!!!
(DIR) Post #APttmQPAplJLoYaIwi by trobador@mastodon.social
2022-11-23T13:10:36Z
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@cwebber @evan I'd like to interject for a moment: what you're referring to as "Mastodon" is in fact ActivityPub/Mastodon :AngeryCat:
(DIR) Post #APtzKbmjWsPuj2ivlQ by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-11-23T17:21:37Z
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@evan Funny how we never stopped to say "Let's meet over IRC" and I never heard "Let's meet over ActivityPub" :p
(DIR) Post #APtzLxu4mMCZc8nys4 by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-23T04:58:04Z
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@matoakit /me builds time machine/me goes back to Paris in 1817"Congratulations Baron Cuvier! You've identified an extinct species! I propose you name it 'The Fediverse'."
(DIR) Post #APtzWeCkMKU9hkdEsi by a1ba@suya.place
2022-11-23T16:19:20.569884Z
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@evan I don't like to throw random words at people. I feel like if they don't know at least two, they stop listening to me.Therefore, I call it just Fedi, not talking about the underlying implementation. And not explaining what it is instead of just "decentralized social network", telling that I host my own, and have no ads, brands or feds (can't say fediverse without the "fed" *wink wink*) here.They will understand how interoperable software is in Fediverse only when they try it. Not when I invite them to join.
(DIR) Post #APtzc5cxpShECeUR28 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-23T17:23:41.187750Z
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@a1ba @evan "Hey, what's your email? Here's mine" instead of "so there is this federated electronic messaging protocol, I host my own server, … anyway that's my email"
(DIR) Post #APtzkUDSIErQmPYv6e by Relected@shitposter.club
2022-11-23T17:26:12.957892Z
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@cwebber @evan “just google it”
(DIR) Post #APu1qdAc7A2wCFI5R2 by a1ba@suya.place
2022-11-23T17:26:26.248189Z
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@lanodan @evan at some point I stopped comparing Fedi to email because people don't use email for something more than just a spam box.
(DIR) Post #APu1qdf6HoQtinYQxE by a1ba@suya.place
2022-11-23T17:26:52.644398Z
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@lanodan @evan it creates false expectation, even if they understand what's common between fedi and email
(DIR) Post #APu1qe7oZ3Ox9qzMi8 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-23T17:49:19.259489Z
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@a1ba @evan Yeah, it's just imagine if s nerds would also explain email, instead of basically just demonstrating it, specially as fediverse accounts are just URLs so they can see what's up.
(DIR) Post #APu1wn1cO3pQUy1IRs by StarCrashr@mastodon.lol
2022-11-23T04:38:25Z
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@evan If you've ever called a generic medication by its brand name, don't judge anyone for calling the Fediverse "Mastodon."
(DIR) Post #APu1wnTchwEJtp7f6G by clacke@libranet.de
2022-11-23T13:56:29Z
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@StarCrashr @evan I'm assuming many people on the Fediverse are like me and do in fact take care not to call concepts by the first-mover brand or dominant brand's name. 😅I know my assumption is a bit wrong, as apart from individual traits there are also differences between the Swedish culture I grew up and the dominant US culture on Fedi.For whatever reason US people seem much more prone to e.g. wiping their face with Kleenexes and Xeroxing their papers, whereas Swedes tend to use paper tissues and photocopiers. There is no Velcro in Sweden, only "burdock straps".
(DIR) Post #APu1wnxOvE37OB3RVw by cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site
2022-11-23T17:50:55.061495Z
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@clacke>many people on the Fediverse are like me and do in fact take care not to call concepts by the first-mover brand or dominant brand's name>LinuxNah, that's what most people do nowadays.@StarCrashr @evan
(DIR) Post #APu241ko1YAUCqbi52 by cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site
2022-11-23T17:52:16.265580Z
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@clacke>many people on the Fediverse are like me and do in fact take care not to call concepts by the first-mover brand or dominant brand's name>Linux>googlingNah, that's what most people do nowadays.@StarCrashr @evan
(DIR) Post #APuWqOJAT68igKepIO by Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
2022-11-23T23:37:05.918Z
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@evan@prodromou.pub but its funny
(DIR) Post #APuoPMggBVlx0kuwVs by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-24T02:52:51Z
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I am a qualified disagree. There's a time and place to call out all the great services, protocols and software in the fediverse. That time and place are not the first 5 minutes someone has heard of the network. If people say "Mastodon", just say "Mastodon". And then help them along as the learn more.
(DIR) Post #APuoPN3Mp9v897X3sO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-11-24T02:53:57Z
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@evan Get them posting and reading, then let them gradually absorb the details.
(DIR) Post #APupCHD7KtHUDNPf1M by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-11-24T03:02:46.342664Z
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No. :blobcatstop: Say "Fediverse" .. this whole thing was around long before Eugene and will be here long after. Even ActivityPub isn't honest either because we had OStatus and PumpIO and GNUSocial and an entire fucking plethora of glued together garbage to get here. It's not "The Mastodon Network." Over 25% of us don't run Masto. That's like saying the Web is "Google Chrome" ... (I also hate it when people say they "Google" something .. say "Search for" .. you don't jizz into a fucking kelnex, you use a tissue).
(DIR) Post #APupUnKaeRNd2zjq3E by meowski@fluf.club
2022-11-24T03:06:05.855072Z
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@evan the time and place is as soon as you hear someone call the fediverse Muh Mastodon Network.same as if someone called the web "chrome" "view a web page on chrome" -> "view a page on the web"just help your friends sound less clueless and open their minds. it's ok.
(DIR) Post #APupv49whrmyliHq7c by coyote@pl.lain.sh
2022-11-24T03:08:09.947147Z
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@djsumdog @evan "all of fediverse is called mastodon" reminds me of "all portable media players are called an ipod"
(DIR) Post #APuqdhQc4EDxIgMiky by newt@stereophonic.space
2022-11-24T03:18:12.658562Z
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@djsumdog @evan no no no! Let’s call it “google something” instead of “searching”. This erodes Google’s trademark to this word. Sooner or later they won’t be able to enforce it, because it becomes a generic mark and those public domain.
(DIR) Post #APuqzRe1QnuMid0So4 by book@sleepy.cafe
2022-11-24T03:20:58.437169Z
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UOOOOOOOOH! CHILD EROTIC! 😭😭😭😭
(DIR) Post #APur0lTvAAYEX2uYRk by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-24T03:23:07.772889Z
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Early and often
(DIR) Post #APurVbEnIeWnjoXTJw by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2022-11-24T03:27:27.295358Z
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@djsumdog @evan calling the fediverse just mastodon is like calling email just gmail or outlook, which is what a lot of boomers do tho
(DIR) Post #APuwBMnhlXwSwS2WP2 by elnach@novoa.nagoya
2022-11-24T04:21:04.241Z
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@evan@prodromou.pub those who call the fediverse 'Mastodon' must be considered infidels alhamdulillah, they shall perish by the hand of god allahu akbar سيف الله سوف يخترق قلوب الكافرين / الجهاد الآن
(DIR) Post #APuwJSXQJnCL3KHbii by CryptoBlok@outerheaven.club
2022-11-24T04:22:30.970035Z
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@coyote @djsumdog @evan "All of America is California."
(DIR) Post #APuwL9aDlMpCqPOp9s by WeissenSocken88@poa.st
2022-11-24T04:22:50.775468Z
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@djsumdog @evan just call them niggers
(DIR) Post #APuwVCLYLMGeJKKPI0 by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-11-24T04:24:38.492977Z
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California has a brand ... like New York ...
(DIR) Post #APuwgd69DqDiSrZcDA by Earmuffs@bae.st
2022-11-24T04:26:41.214532Z
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@matoakit @evan @matoakit @evan You're a guy pretending to be a woman, pretending to be an animal... I think I have high chances of finding that time machine tbh
(DIR) Post #APuyNEem4SBx4CeL1k by coyote@pl.lain.sh
2022-11-24T04:45:29.163337Z
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@CryptoBlok @djsumdog @evan I'm fine with "all of america is texas/the south"
(DIR) Post #APv0oGfws93X3VDUuG by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-11-24T05:12:54.369611Z
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minus Atlanta ... but the rest is cool :blobcatblush:
(DIR) Post #APvWexxAJEBYursUvQ by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-24T11:09:44.127Z
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@evan@prodromou.pub I think it's best to call things what they are from the start. You shouldn't encourage the spreading of misconceptions.You can really leave all the talk about protocols out of it, it's not important. Even my grandma can understand that you use "Thunderbird" for "Email". So everyone should be able to understand that "Mastodon" uses the "Fediverse".
(DIR) Post #APvWl9l3Kgf9GVAFMG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-24T11:10:51.383Z
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@evan@prodromou.pub But my grandma doesn't know what SMTP or POP3 is, just like how users shouldn't have to know what ActivityPub is.
(DIR) Post #APvqk6NyNpKVbG8xTk by judahsshadow@fe.disroot.org
2022-11-24T14:37:19.725105Z
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@djsumdogYay someone finally remembered to include #pumpio @evan
(DIR) Post #APwWlKB4mpkQjuNPWq by Baa@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-11-24T22:45:10.860812Z
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@evan I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Mastodon, is in fact just one of many implementations of the Activity Pub Protocol which enables federated social media, or as I’ve recently taking to calling it, The Fediverse. Mastodon is not a social media unto itsel-
(DIR) Post #APwXcllSwwNne9ski0 by KaitoCross@futuregadgetlab.cc
2022-11-24T22:51:54Z
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@Baa @evan
(DIR) Post #APxUpxIPHZOUTEqV9s by enigmatico@mk.absturztau.be
2022-11-25T09:58:41.594Z
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@evan@prodromou.pub Calling it "Mastodon" is purely sugar coated (although missleading) marketing for the normies and the mass media. The real term should be "ActivityPub", which is the common protocol for all the services in the network.
(DIR) Post #APxbs6mrfG2wAK49Me by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T11:13:33.991608Z
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@djsumdog @evan evan made pump.io so i suppose he knows.my position is: one guy is trying to co-opt the space for his personal gain. knowing that it is deliberate, are you just going to let him?
(DIR) Post #APxfxO6f6BKX936BqS by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T12:03:22.565548Z
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@evan >If people say "Mastodon", just say "Mastodon". And then help them along as the learn more.>lets help digitally illiterate people by letting keeping them digitally illiterateYou can't except people to learn if you wipe their bottom 24/7.It doesn't mean that you can't make pedagogical work, it means that you have to make pedagogical work that is beneficial for them long term.
(DIR) Post #APxg2CeJ7lJH3h8Gf2 by liaizon@social.wake.st
2022-11-23T14:26:40Z
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@mattl @evan ooof this. I hate the .social tld its cringey
(DIR) Post #APxg2Dpgiw0WjHSs2S by clacke@libranet.de
2022-11-24T00:34:03Z
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@liaizon http://cringe.social/(parked. booh.)@mattl @evan
(DIR) Post #APxg2EErDM8lzLEyGm by liaizon@social.wake.st
2022-11-24T00:35:29Z
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@clacke @mattl @evan the fediverse is giving a serious use for all these parked domain names people have sitting around
(DIR) Post #APxgBDcAu4kgexQxRg by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T12:05:53.119716Z
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@djsumdog @evan >this whole thing was around long before Eugene and will be here long after.And it was there before weeber.>Even ActivityPub isn't honest either because we had OStatus and PumpIO and GNUSocial and an entire fucking plethora of glued together garbage to get here:this: > Over 25% of us don't run Masto. Over 25% of us don't run :furry_trash: I call that an improvement.>(I also hate it when people say they "Google" something .. say "Search for" .. you don't jizz into a fucking kelnex, you use a tissue).People were raised to see brands, not functions sadly.
(DIR) Post #APxgJQxNBN9CM6GZea by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T12:07:21.358431Z
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@dirb @djsumdog @evan I HATE PROPRIETARY BRANDS ! I HATE PROPRIETARY BRANDS !! :trollfaceburnedeyes:
(DIR) Post #APxgLCRy5XO1wYQ2yW by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T12:07:42.119662Z
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@elnach @evan :gnujihad:
(DIR) Post #APxgUP3aaOADeIP8ka by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2022-11-25T12:09:21.473653Z
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"playstation?" No this is a Nintendo switch"Playstation!" No this is a PC"PlayStation!" No this is a cell phone"NINTENDO?" No this is a playstation
(DIR) Post #APxlq62wRk0cpZGVNY by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2022-11-25T13:09:17Z
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@elnach @evan Gnuxtremists International Inc.
(DIR) Post #APxr0sN87xG9NPfRzc by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-25T14:07:13Z
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@djsumdog @evan The argument to just call it all "Mastodon" cause it's easier is the equivalent to arguing to call all Linux distributions Ubuntu for the normies. It's dumb.
(DIR) Post #APxz0r1lvQsgq9B6Vk by ayy@noagendasocial.com
2022-11-25T15:36:55Z
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@djsumdog @evan They call it fediverse because it was put out by the feds for all of you rats to out yourselves.
(DIR) Post #APznIFzxWll24gmXFw by besserwisser@shitposter.club
2022-11-26T12:34:57.164715Z
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@lucifer @evan https://xkcd.com/2108/