Post APwxohfMbwAlDdNYdk by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #APww6WcwC1jEHmcAPQ by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-25T03:25:44Z
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Wow. Folks using Github need to be aware of this: https://blog.freeyourgadget.org/our-dmca-takedown-a-post-mortem.html #gadgetbridge #DMCATakeDown #lawyerUp
(DIR) Post #APww6X4EYXYxeRNxxI by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T03:29:36Z
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@lightweight exactly the reason I moved from github to sourcehut + selfhosted cgit.I dont want this to happen on githubs terms.
(DIR) Post #APww8mQMQkqzrJo6F6 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-25T03:29:32.690077Z
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@lightweight Or any other platform.Shit like DMCA means that you shouldn't host your business on a silo.
(DIR) Post #APwwO8FdYnwBtk6yhM by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-25T03:32:46Z
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@theorytoe I moved to 2 self-hosted Gitlabs... but now uncomfortable with their open core biz model... pondering my next move. And I think it's good to avoid using US-owned/domiciled companies if possible for hosting due to DMCA, US Cloud, and Patriot Acts which are massive overreach.
(DIR) Post #APwwQYIfgLUZGagWFk by alcinnz@floss.social
2022-11-25T03:33:12Z
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@theorytoe Hey, I was just asking @lightweight for SourceHut advice!
(DIR) Post #APwwWRYDgjo24VlafA by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T03:34:18Z
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@lightweight if you're looking for software.gitea is hands down the best choice if you are familar with gitlab.
(DIR) Post #APwwsJNSl2uf5pA99k by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T03:38:15Z
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@alcinnzcool! if you need some pointers, ive been using sourcehut for awhile now and would be glad to answer questions.@lightweight
(DIR) Post #APwx2fwPimKry8S7lY by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-25T03:40:05Z
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@theorytoe I've been eyeing it up, but am a bit concerned it might go the same way as Gitlab give its dev lead's recent blog post...
(DIR) Post #APwxldel3wnFujdOJk by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T03:48:15Z
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@lightweight yeah...I have a bit of concern to. (i dont particularly agree with drew on his takes)but it seems as the whole is open, so theres oppertunity to fork if needed.Also sucks that the debian packages kinda stink.
(DIR) Post #APwxohfMbwAlDdNYdk by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-25T03:48:46Z
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@theorytoe true.
(DIR) Post #APwyHIDKJwEOg6thaq by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-11-25T03:53:54.963697Z
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I agree on the DeVault aspect; he's kinda an asshole. I currently still use Gitlab for newer porjects and have all my older stuff on Github. I've thought about self hosting, but there is a big advantage to people just being able to open up merge requests and issues without registering. Gitea was the one talking about implementing federation, right?The Wikiless project got hit with something similar from Codeberg:https://battlepenguin.com/politics/wikipedia-is-a-source-of-political-propaganda/#the-wikiless-privacy-enginebut to be fair, the Codeberg maintainer did address it with this statement:https://djsumdog.com/@djsumdog/posts/APJyQBQ7EebJEPQLtQ
(DIR) Post #APwydb62nR9zc17uka by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T03:58:00Z
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@djsumdog @lightweight iirc gitea was considering something of the likes. dobt quote me tho.also, seems like drew might turn up to be one of those soy boogiemen. I hope not but only time will tell
(DIR) Post #APwyel6v38doxa5d6u by byterhymer@mastodon.social
2022-11-25T03:43:45Z
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@lanodan @lightweight I think, maybe, the DMCA is just: bad?Moreover, it instigates, bad behavior?I had a deejay mashup/mix of mine removed from a (unnamed cloud provider because they don't even deserve the negative publicity) after purportedly 3 "listens" even while: I was employed by a 501(c)(3) with a Library of Congress granted DMCA exemption.In other words: whatever scripts seem to be "enforcing" such things, are prone to false positives.It's almost as if: the whole thing stinks.
(DIR) Post #APwyelYvN12iMRBzlI by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-25T03:57:38.160338Z
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@byterhymer @lightweight Yeah, it's a mess.And I'm pretty sure that without a proper contract to the platform (which you're not going to get on silos) you can't sue for things like damages due to honoring false DMCA claims.I'm not a lawyer though.
(DIR) Post #APwzSm8ZVTWUchiEiG by neet@refuse2.work
2022-11-25T04:07:13.134575Z
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@lanodan @lightweight @byterhymer I 100% ignore copyright law, licensing, DMCA, etc and have never once in my entire life had a problem occur because of it.
(DIR) Post #APwzpOua1cy9FaxNBo by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-25T04:10:41.105119Z
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@neet @lightweight @byterhymer I also quite ignore Copyright but I self-host, only relevant DMCA I got was one URL (semi-public pirate copy of a movie) getting taken down from Google Search, only saw it via some website that publishes DMCA takedowns.
(DIR) Post #APx0Za0b6BvWzKn6YK by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
2022-11-25T04:19:40.101036Z
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@lanodan @lightweight @byterhymer You can't generally sue the company that is taking down the content because you'd have to prove they didn't take down the material in a good faith effort to honor DMCA and that you actually had financial harm. You could sue the person making the false claim for legal fees and proven monetary damages, but that effectively never happens. The DMCA actually has protections for anyone hosting a site where there is a disputed claim of infringement, but it's easier to remove everything that gets reported instead of getting tied up in frivolous lawsuits.
(DIR) Post #APx0rNdNqTKrp2Q9dw by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-25T04:22:26.731816Z
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@Zettour @lightweight @byterhymer Yeah, it means that the DMCA is a tool for abusive takedowns as there is little to no way to strike back.
(DIR) Post #APx1w843GFOWw2isi0 by ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social
2022-11-25T04:30:56Z
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@djsumdog @lightweight @theorytoe Drew is an acquired taste, but I would argue he is a hugely valuable presence in FOSS. He reminds me of RMS in his moral absolutism about free software, but without the really problematic behaviors and statements of RMS.As much as I *don't* agree with Drew a lot of the time, I feel people holding his opinions strongly is valuable to the community and it keeps the Overton window of FOSS from sliding too far.
(DIR) Post #APx1w8dV8RkchzJBxo by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T04:34:57Z
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@ocdtrekkie @djsumdog @lightweight for sure yeahalthough to say, both stallman and drew probably can be groupes in the same level of opinions, just on different sides.
(DIR) Post #APx2PKZrogJY8rWqae by nawanp@fe.disroot.org
2022-11-25T04:38:09.755274Z
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@neet @lightweight @byterhymer @lanodan But the DMCA creates a safe harbor, or a legal exemption, from copyright infringement liability for Internet service providers (ISPs) and other intermediaries like the Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization that hosts Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects. Without it, Wikipedia will cease to exist. It also protects the Internet Archive.
(DIR) Post #APx2PLPygvzwkTuSoa by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-25T04:39:34.192540Z
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@nawanp @lightweight @byterhymer @neet Yeah, but the DMCA is a vehicules without brakes.
(DIR) Post #APx5982CyywaTCkcmO by mikebabcock@floss.social
2022-11-25T05:10:54Z
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@theorytoe @lightweight more like a reason to stay out of America with your software repo. The DMCA only exists there. Host elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #APx59xcTBvFkSR6nse by mikebabcock@floss.social
2022-11-25T05:11:04Z
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@theorytoe @lightweight more like a reason to stay out of America with your software repo. The DMCA only exists there. Host elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #APx5E3dekp7mHfcKzg by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-11-25T05:11:48.121429Z
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but without the really problematic behaviors and statements of RMS.eh, he’s still a child. I know it was 10 years ago, but he did hostile takeover an IRC chatroom:https://www.omnimaga.org/news/omnomirc-moved-to-new-server/and just two years ago back on my old instance we had several DMs where he ended up blocking me because I had reposed a video by Candice Owens and wouldn’t denounce it. .. I dunno, dude rubs me the wrong way and is arrogant.
(DIR) Post #APx5RyAlsBnZNzjxHk by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T05:14:20Z
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@djsumdog @lightweight @ocdtrekkie Interesting. Ill take note of that.This drastically changes my perceptions of him.
(DIR) Post #APx5gnP4CCHsKSUqem by ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social
2022-11-25T05:16:59Z
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@theorytoe @djsumdog @lightweight I think eleven years is a really long time to hold a grudge on the Internet, tbh. And again, I'm not saying he's a saint, but he isn't Richard "Pedophilia probably shouldn't be illegal, actually" Stallman.
(DIR) Post #APx5ln3qtZVwiQxHd2 by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T05:17:55Z
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@mikebabcock @lightweight Genreally speaking, if you keep it on a small and less publicly known instance, you'll be fine.Its when you host stuff on more public infstructure that you run into issues. Im also 50% sure that you can still run into DMCA outside the us. then again I could be wrong.
(DIR) Post #APx6FNKF90M9aMjGng by theorytoe@mstdn.starnix.network
2022-11-25T05:23:16Z
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@ocdtrekkie @djsumdog @lightweight Its not that its a grudge, its an example of past behavior. It wouldnt be to far from the truth to say that its a reason to be wary. Sure people change, but past actions still stain one's reputation and give insight on to what they might do in the future.as for stallman, the accusations thrown on him were 99% corpos trying to get rid of his presence in the foss community. Sure, what he has "claimed[1]" is weird, but they are words, not actions.[1]: With a suprising lack of evidence coming from the accusers. Makes you think huh?
(DIR) Post #APx6g1gLipd2HJmFc0 by ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social
2022-11-25T05:28:03Z
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@theorytoe @djsumdog @lightweight My own behavior has changed drastically in the past 11 years. I would say it's not a useful signal at that point.I won't go deeper into RMS tonight, but I think it's deeply problematic the FSF allows him to remain involved for numerous reasons.
(DIR) Post #APxHDwIlERhWyjYO7k by mikebabcock@floss.social
2022-11-25T07:26:13Z
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@theorytoe luckily as a Canadian, the DMCA is an America-only silliness. That said, other countries *may* comply because of their own Copyright laws. But no DMCA and its weird traps. See also: https://www.copyrighted.com/blog/dmca-guide
(DIR) Post #APxI1UeyHGnPjDZVFA by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2022-11-25T07:35:13.174Z
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@djsumdog@djsumdog.com If you want the barrier to be low, and don't like Drew himself, you can just self-host #Sourcehut or #cgit, and let people submit patches by email. No requirements for registering new accounts, people won't even need to open their browsers!
(DIR) Post #APxT8IYskv5DjHAepc by dushman@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T09:39:42.629936Z
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@lanodan @nawanp @lightweight @byterhymer @neet The DMCA is just a suggestion to me
(DIR) Post #APxTENrLyGrhtjiESm by dushman@shitposter.club
2022-11-25T09:40:48.696923Z
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@lanodan @nawanp @lightweight @byterhymer @neet Intellectual "property" isn't real :max_stirner: