Post APwRnr6Kqi3ResXx20 by evolbug@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #APwFFfgxYzEWyebvcG by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T19:29:22Z
       
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       So aparantly me and @koyu along with one other have been banned from teh #mastoadmin e-mail list.I wont say much other than to judge for yourselves, I think what I said and the evidence I presented speaks for itself.Here is the full transcript, including accusation of being alt-right in the moderator ban.. all emails, unedited.These are your admins people, these childish morons.https://jeffreyfreeman.me/more-lies-from-the-fediverse/#fediblock #LGBTQ #nazi
       
 (DIR) Post #APwG0NVOzuk0BRTafQ by obi@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T19:37:51Z
       
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       @freemo love @koyu . I have an account there too. Always the best to get f*&%ed!
       
 (DIR) Post #APwG3nLTNklVC2Seci by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T19:38:27Z
       
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       @obi @koyu is one of the best people on this godforsaken fediverse :)
       
 (DIR) Post #APwGY4061TwjXHtaOe by obi@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T19:43:58Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu agreed.  Also, the theming over there is 🔥
       
 (DIR) Post #APwMA3hg4jILODDXBg by plenartowicz@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T20:46:51Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu You are a pain in the ass Jeffrey. And you made a lot of unwanted contact about that situation. So I understand that many people and admins are fed up with that. But... (it's my opinion)The right to be emotional about, and fight against false accusations, defamation, and unjust treatment, is far more critical than other people's "feeling of peace".Women can be angry and it's not 'reverse sexism'Non-cis people can be angry and it's not 'anticisideology'.POC can be angry and it's 'reverse racism'And QOTO admin can be angry about unjustified accusations and it's not 'harassment'.(It's my opinion)
       
 (DIR) Post #APwN1G3KtKEX2QiOp6 by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T20:56:25Z
       
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       @plenartowicz Thank you@koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwOTGjS3jSbCvKpAO by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T21:12:42Z
       
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       @m1k3 Agreed, I appreciate it.@plenartowicz @koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwPD7yewPszNNJc4u by lucifargundam@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T21:21:01Z
       
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       @freemo @m1k3 @plenartowicz @koyu apparently transparency is hard.what's harder than that is communicating with others.hopefully the civil dialogue grows and more people get involved until a resolution results.
       
 (DIR) Post #APwPHI1PXRNzgcaSBc by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T21:21:44Z
       
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       @lucifargundam Yes, that sounds like how things tend to progress on the internet... I dont know what your smoking but I want some.@m1k3 @plenartowicz @koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwPb1HfTk4jZCbCoy by lucifargundam@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T21:25:20Z
       
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       @freemo @m1k3 @plenartowicz @koyu i mean, it's _supposed_ to be that way- but clearly isn't always the case.
       
 (DIR) Post #APwRnr6Kqi3ResXx20 by evolbug@mastodon.social
       2022-11-24T21:50:01Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu so many questions even just from a technical standpointwhy'd they suspend Koyu? they sent just one email didn't they? why is a supposed technical list so aggressive (from all sides) instead of being collected and factual?why is does it appear that for a seemingly vital mailing list that can bully broad moderation policy onto the fedi, its own moderation policy isn't an evidence based multiparty vote?i'd want to see receipts in such a list, am I misunderstanding something?
       
 (DIR) Post #APwSc79bRK8nvM2YjY by evolbug@mastodon.social
       2022-11-24T21:56:44Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu also "one of the moderators"isn't that person the sole moderator? i don't see any moderator list, and he's named the only owner, who's policing this list, how can we trust that person?
       
 (DIR) Post #APwSc7bFmWG7J6ydpg by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T21:59:09Z
       
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       @evolbug No clue to be honest.@koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwURvZnpTeN1uZ7Bo by evolbug@mastodon.social
       2022-11-24T22:14:13Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu hmm, i looked through the archive, i have to admit that the mailing list doesn't seem very influential/popular, and actually this was indeed way off topic from the typical (entirely technical) conversation. i do think that banning koyu off a single email is rather harsh, i probably wouldn't have started a moderation topic on an infra/tech list, sounds like most people in the topic would be warranted for temp suspension due to behaviour
       
 (DIR) Post #APwURw2A82KqRrplOS by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-24T22:19:40Z
       
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       @evolbug I could care less about their shitty mailing list... the accusation from the mod however are both damning and rediculously exagerated.@koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwVUGACMGMZPeGUam by evolbug@mastodon.social
       2022-11-24T22:31:20Z
       
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       @freemo it is indeed a problem that the mod didn't simply close the convo but also had to add vitriol to it. Interesting that Johansen also had to be dragged in and labeled a nazi too, when he just said (in an albeit lengthy way) that the list isn't for mod problems lol@koyu
       
 (DIR) Post #APwyQs1qWzzaMW5vAO by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
       2022-11-25T03:55:39.206762Z
       
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       @freemo @koyu Has Gargon even said his "side" of the story? 🤔 I mentioned it in a thread he was in and he responded once, asking what I was talking about, and then didn't say a word after I explained the situation. Most #Fediverse drama has two sides to the story. This one has one side, and bashful silence.(I'm not tagging him because I don't wanna badger him lol)
       
 (DIR) Post #APxlxbvGKWktihFx6e by theo@qoto.org
       2022-11-25T13:10:38Z
       
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       @freemo feels like Twitter here
       
 (DIR) Post #APxmBnkNAEvQRkvgJ6 by freemo@qoto.org
       2022-11-25T13:13:13Z
       
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       @theo Sadly it didnt always, but it is strting to become worse in some ways.