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(DIR) Post #APukpQ025phwzp8afo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:13:50Z
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ThreadHow could Trump have constrained Biden?A black hole theory exploration.
(DIR) Post #APul1NVBCluaj0PQbA by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:16:00Z
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I have been an ardent fan of the work from #17SOG and their theory that what Trump was working to accomplish was a deconstruction of the Imperial Presidency that reached an apex in response to 9/11 and has operated with extraordinary emergency powers ever since.Their theory, called Reconstitution, is a description of the deconstruction of the unconstitutional emergency powers and a return of the presidency to its constitutionally defined norms.
(DIR) Post #APulDk9Op7EARZ7MdU by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:18:14Z
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This is a theory that I find to be consistent with the version of Trump that I currently hold, i.e., a law and order guy with loyalty to the Constitution and its original intent.#17SOG puts forward compelling facts and arguments that show a great deal of progress was made I this direction. It is clear that the Presidency that Biden took hold of was/is not exactly the same unrestrained imperial office that Obama occupied (for far too long).
(DIR) Post #APulPlYfPr6aHffYx6 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:20:24Z
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And it is also clear that Biden is strangely constrained. He is not (apparently) wielding the Obama-era pen and phone model of the office. He can certainly do a lot of damage, but he has not been able to achieve a great deal of what he set out to do a couple of years ago.But how can this be? #17SOG plainly document that a great deal of the emergency powers remain in effect. May of the empowering Executive Orders have been extended by the Biden administration.
(DIR) Post #APulaI9l4UBKHW2OHo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:22:19Z
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Why has the Biden administration not been able to act on a whim and a fiat like Obama did?Why have his attempts to introduce radical changes collapsed so easily?I theorise that there is something(s) holding Biden back, things that I cannot see or otherwise detect, except by seeing that Biden seems unable to escape the gravitational pull of some invisible object. A black hole, if you will.
(DIR) Post #APulpS62OfjlSBWgzY by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:25:03Z
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I have conversed with the #17SOG team and others and have a limited understanding of military matters such that I can wrap my head around the notion of a limited number of officers and enlisted soldiers being involved in Top Secret/SAP programs that can do things like monitor and perhaps influence elections (this is how I think it may be that Trump was able to win in '16 and how the House was narrowly won in '22).But this is very narrow in scope, indeed.
(DIR) Post #APum1Nttp3irupXRoG by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:27:12Z
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I have further theorised that Trump left behind a legacy of very strong legal opinions with JAG, the military lawyers, that have significantly narrowed and defined the meaning of 'lawful orders' such that combatant commanders are well equipped to resist wild military adventures that may be ordered by Biden.But this is narrow too. It pertains only to the military and there are many tens of thousands of government employees that Biden (or more properly his puppet masters) could use...
(DIR) Post #APumAzri2Y6UGd678q by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:28:57Z
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...to accomplish his neofascist agenda. But he has not been able to do so, at least not in the aggressive and wide reaching manner I'd have expected, especially during and immediately after the intense phase of the covid mandate nightmares.What could be restraining him even now?
(DIR) Post #APumNohwpnfdQZe2ng by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:31:16Z
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There is the possibility of secret action before SCOTUS via its shadow docket. I cannot exclude this possibility but I do not see this being able to restrain Biden by itself. It would be perverse for an Originalist Court to secretly impose retractions on another co-equal branch of government. Were SCOTUS to do something of the sort on its own, I'd expect to see it out in the open where the American people could see and react to it.
(DIR) Post #APumTyMBs9FD5iP3vE by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:32:22Z
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We have not seen any legislation that directly challenges the emergency powers of the President, so I do not see that Congress has somehow restrained Biden.But yet, it does seem to be happening.
(DIR) Post #APumj8BNch81uOZhZo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:35:07Z
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This puzzle caused me to ask myself the question of just what is an Executive Order, anyway?Fundamentally, it is a grammatical/lingusitic construct that fits into a a wider context, i.e., the body of law, precedent, etc., that operates within the federal legal framework. They are words, sentences, clauses, etc., that are assembled to have a particular purpose and meaning with the intention of delivering specific results.
(DIR) Post #APumrfAcrJqcXFI4LQ by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:36:39Z
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Those writing and executing these documents do so to enable certain powers to be welded in a certain way. They are very technical and precise documents that are intended to mean exactly what they say, and nothing else.
(DIR) Post #APun5JFV9uQUbM4uOm by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:39:07Z
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When wielding the powers enumerated in these orders, the President and his staff will be guided by very technical legal advice. In much the same way as I theorised that Trump may have restrained Biden's ability to embark on military adventures by nailing down the scope of orders that he may legally issue, I think that Trump and a team of very smart lawyers did the same thing with ALL of the emergency powers that remained on the day that Trump left office.
(DIR) Post #APunBcA1l5NAzbWYeO by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:40:15Z
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Words matter. Definitions matter.Do you remember Clinton's famous quote when challenged about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky? He came up with this:"It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is."
(DIR) Post #APunKe8zknHzkZLdmy by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:41:54Z
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And he was entirely correct. Being utterly precise about the meaning of each and every word in each and every Executive Order is how I think Biden, at least in large part, may well have been nailed down before Trump left office.Let us imagine that all of the emergency powers were examined and reinterpreted in the context of Reconstitution and in terms of a law and order Originalist view of the Constitution.
(DIR) Post #APunRUi5EBI2WB1eLY by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T02:43:07Z
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@Andre Is this Alternate Universe fiction?
(DIR) Post #APunXavz010dYkR5UW by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:44:14Z
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Let us further imagine that these reinterpretations were given some teeth, as in, any attempt to subvert or pervert the proper Constitutional understanding and use of these powers could be a felony and perhaps capital offence. As in Treason, or the like.
(DIR) Post #APunli4lFAwNlMGx9c by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:46:47Z
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These reinterpretations, these legal opinions, would be a perfect stealth mechanism. I am almost certain that they would be completely shielded from scrutiny by other branches of government via Executive Privilege. Were Biden thusly constrained, I am utterly confident that he'd have no desire to disclose anything that would reveal the limitations on his power.And because the legal opinions were produced during the Trump Administration, Trump could have declassified them and taken copies...
(DIR) Post #APunwk2cHDe72mWtm4 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:48:47Z
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...with him as he left office.The Biden Administration would be trapped. If they acted in contravention of the legal opinions (presuming they were as airtight as I think they'd have to be), they would fear that Trump could drop them on them at any moment, which the could do since they were no longer classified. The Biden administration would keep them utterly secret lest they reveal just how weak they really are.Trump would keep them secret because to prematurely release them...
(DIR) Post #APuo8OOYaACDNuLcDA by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:50:53Z
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...could give the Biden administration the opportunity to try the matter in the press/public in the hope they could brazen their way back into the imperial presidency enjoyed by Obama. Or perhaps to try to find a dirty judge that would provide some sort of injunctive relief that gave the Biden administration time to act before SCOTUS could get its hands on the matter.
(DIR) Post #APuoFVplK6zaTzT4LI by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:52:10Z
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Executive Privilege would shield the legal opinions from FOIA requests too.
(DIR) Post #APuoP9WH8sj4AiwwzY by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:53:55Z
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I can further imagine that some aspects of the legal opinions could well have been tested before SCOTUS on its shadow docket. Success in this regard would validate the strength of the full body of legal opinion, even if SCOTUS ruled only on a narrow piece of the body of work. Perhaps, if this took place, it would be enough to discourage any further legal wrangling on the matter by the Biden administration.
(DIR) Post #APuodw65KRdot2kTyq by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:56:35Z
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Thus, in addition to the secret military intelligence stuff that I think happened and is ongoing, especially with regards to monitoring and perhaps influencing the elections, and in addition to the overt actions that Trump took which have been well documented and analysed by #17SOG, and in addition to to the work of litigants of all sorts who have pushed back against Biden's unlawful attempts to act as an Imperial President, I still feel the gravitational tug of a black hole which...
(DIR) Post #APuorzVjQwgnWoRlNg by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:59:07Z
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...continues to have an effect on Biden and his agenda/ambitions.I think this black hole is was assembled by a relatively small number of incredibly bright, talented, and trained legal minds in both the military and civilian legal universes. This team of legal, linguistic, historical, and philosophical heroes reinterpreted the entire remaining apparatus of the Imperial Presidency and placed Constitutionalist limitations on all of these vestiges of unconstitutional and totalitarian...
(DIR) Post #APup04lflu7s9Kl4Hg by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:00:34Z
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@Andre None of this is remotely how the law works, just sayin'. There are no secret "airtight" "legal opinions" that Trump could "drop on" anyone.
(DIR) Post #APup5Pg7SFMGRxho5A by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:01:33Z
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...usurpations of the Constitutional Rule of Law.I may be utterly wrong, just as the brilliant Aristotle was wrong about the multitude of hard, crystal celestial spheres with Earth at their center. But just like Aristotle who imagined the university in these terms, I currently cannot imagine how Trump could otherwise have placed highly effective and yet utterly invisible fetters upon the incoming degenerate President.
(DIR) Post #APupIun95TJEi8Qjjs by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:03:59Z
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I can imagine these legal warriors crafting iron clad legal opinions that enabled whatever secret machinations that may be operating at present. I can imagine their reinterpretation, their reinvention, of the powers of the President putting the fear of God and swift punishment into the hearts and minds of those who came in 2021 to plunder the bauble of office as Obama had done before them.These opinions would have had to preserve the genuine constitutional powers of the presidency.
(DIR) Post #APupVFQED4WkAaajj6 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:06:13Z
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And Biden is wielding the levers that he can reach with devastating effect. But each time he or one of his minions reaches for a lever that is outside the bounds of law, I think they scorch their hands and yank them back, reminded of the heat that the Rule of Law can bring to even the highest office in the land.
(DIR) Post #APupkp8vgMfbIfvYsS by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:09:02Z
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So, that is my long-winded way of saying something simple, i.e., I suspect that a body of privileged civilian and military legal opinions are constraining Biden and his cabal, and will continue to do so until they leave office.I simply cannot come up with another mechanism that explains Biden's inability to act like Obama. I cannot explain why he has extended certain Executive Orders that seem to be contrary to his agenda and interests.
(DIR) Post #APupsUNukFtREhajgG by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:10:25Z
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And Trump would be the perfect President to use exactly this mechanism. He is a legal wrangler from WAY back. And he has worked with the brightest lawyers available for decades.I look forward to hearing your thoughts, critique, etc.!MAGAMEGAWe caught them all.END.
(DIR) Post #APupvTdvxVdBnxVdpo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:10:58Z
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@ceoln Legal opinions are sought and used EVERY DAY.
(DIR) Post #APuq1dktH6Aou9haiG by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T02:53:14Z
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@ceoln @Andre Says the man who finds it necessary to post his pronouns :)
(DIR) Post #APuq1eIZFt70abSUCm by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T02:55:50Z
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@Bryan @Andre Heh, I guess that's a no!
(DIR) Post #APuq1eetuqybhruK12 by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:06:54Z
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@ceoln @Andre LOL - it is simply a person expressing their ideas. I see that you are from another site, so I should explain that FA is a place where we are all free to express our thoughts and we have a mutual respect for each other in our discussions. If you disagree with something Andre is saying, you are encouraged to offer rational counterpoint, but discouraged from attacking his ideas in an other than rational manner.
(DIR) Post #APuq1f1EZoqCp8M9pI by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:09:14Z
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@Bryan @Andre Okay... I think what I said was pretty much completely rational, though? The theory that seems to be in operation here has no basis in fact; it's just wrong.But that's fine, there was really no reason for me to enter the discussion. Apologies. :)
(DIR) Post #APuq1fV0n6f0JUHwEy by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:12:03Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Give an example of a major federal office of any sort that operates without abundant legal advice and legal opinions for pretty much each and every significant action?
(DIR) Post #APuq2KUOOJWhRRJWT2 by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:12:11Z
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@Andre Sure; but there are not secret airtight ones that would keep a president from doing something for fear they would be in some sense dropped on them. How would that work?
(DIR) Post #APuq9lLouzaUmLqgbo by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:13:31Z
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@Andre @Bryan Not relevant; I didn't suggest that legal opinions don't exist, or that they do not influence actions. It was the idea that there might be a bunch of secret airtight ones that could be "dropped on" someone.
(DIR) Post #APuqDRZAQ3jmZlqZ4C by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:14:12Z
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@ceoln @Bryan They were not 'dropped'. They were (in my imaginings) there when Biden entered the White House.
(DIR) Post #APuqOEy7b4CsgtfRLM by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:16:08Z
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@Andre @Bryan I was just quoting you: "they would fear that Trump could drop them on them at any moment". Again, that is not a thing.
(DIR) Post #APuqVk3sOQ6Z9Ow6N6 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:17:31Z
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@ceoln @Bryan "it's just wrong"Please explain this.I closed this thread by saying I could be utterly wrong, just as the Ancient Greeks were wrong about the celestial spheres. But I am trying to find some explanations for things I see with my own eyes and I welcome superior theory.If you could expand on your statement, it'd me more helpful than just saying nope to it.
(DIR) Post #APuqXVJwAcia0mHy2S by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:16:13Z
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@ceoln @Andre Its OK - I was simply responding to your "Is this Alternate Universe fiction?" comment. You are welcome to question Andre's statements and I'm sure he will answer if you ask a good question and I'm sure you might gain some insight as to his thinking if you don't dismiss it out of hand before understanding it better. Please stay and have fun...
(DIR) Post #APuqXVnMPEFnU23Sts by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:17:49Z
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@Bryan @ceoln This.
(DIR) Post #APuqiYsLIGFoDqecGe by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:17:53Z
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@Bryan @Andre Ah, I see! That was a bit snarky, I suppose, but frankly I thought maybe it was. Trump does not in general work with "very smart lawyers"; they run screaming from him. But an alternate universe with a smart Trump could make for some good fiction.Thank you for your polite replies, despite the pronouns and all (hem hem).
(DIR) Post #APuqiZKLc8ehchkyv2 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:19:49Z
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@ceoln @Bryan I live in the universe with a smart Trump. There are other universes with various versions of Bumble Trump. We will have to see, eh?
(DIR) Post #APuqkHDxtKX83baNge by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:20:08Z
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@Andre @Bryan Okay... I've tried to do that, by calling into question the idea that there could be secret legal opinions that Biden might be restrained by the fear of having "dropped" on him. A legal opinion, in this sense, is just one person or group's suggested interpretation of some law. Someone writing a legal opinion of this kind about how EOs ought to work, for instance, does not actually change how EOs work, until a court rules on the subject.
(DIR) Post #APuqll9C7jNl9S3s1Y by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:20:25Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Pronouns?
(DIR) Post #APuqqUjqYhnPhySmKe by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:21:15Z
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@Andre @Bryan Fascinating! Do you think that all the apparently idiotic things he's done were in order to mislead the bad guys? Or were made up by the press? Or don't exist at all and it's just his enemies pretending they do?
(DIR) Post #APuqsUygdjLT1uMNg8 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:21:38Z
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@ceoln @Bryan What are you speaking of specifically?
(DIR) Post #APuqv21GlLhK5NmA08 by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:22:05Z
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@Andre @Bryan Yes, that was addressed to Bryan, sorry! In re https://freeatlantis.com/@Bryan/109396518117215236
(DIR) Post #APur6cf8rgDOuxx8pk by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:24:11Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Legal opinions can and do affect people's behaviour. If they believe that interpreting an Executive Order in a particular way is likely to get them in trouble, they may be incentivised to take a more cautions approach to interpreting/implementing the order.
(DIR) Post #APurBMirYZsgvdxGS0 by SkatyG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:25:02Z
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@AndreExcellent. I have often watched in amazement of the Trump EOs(?) that Biden has extended in lieu of expiration. I've also watched his inaction on some things that Obama would have swiftly taken care of with his magic pen and phone. Trump has maneuvered Biden into a corner with invisible restraints and steered him with riding crop precision into executing some actions that he would never have taken on his own accord.Thank you for expressing your thoughts on the matter.
(DIR) Post #APurHEOZQjvoq7GCMC by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:23:18Z
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@ceoln @Andre Thank you - "Snarky" is the very word that I was looking for and couldn't think of. I too live in the universe with a smart Trump and I would highly recommend that you would take a few moments to entertain the possibility that mine is the real universe since there is only one reality and contradictions (by their very definition) do not and cannot exist.
(DIR) Post #APurHEqvjIcIG4WqYq by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:26:06Z
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@Bryan @ceoln But to put a finer point on it, I suspect very strongly that BumbleTrump/BuffoonTrump is a persona that Trump uses to encourage his enemies to underestimate (misunderestimate?) him and/or to pull attention towards him for whatever reason.
(DIR) Post #APurPzl1DtWs2ywIEa by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:27:41Z
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@SkatyG Cheers.I am NOT saying I am correct or even that my ideas are plausible. I simply cannot explain a lot of what I see (especially extending certain EOs) and am struggling to imagine mechanisms that can explain it all.I genuinely invite these ideas to be torn down and replaced with superior thought.
(DIR) Post #APurTnxF31X8bETO3E by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:25:13Z
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@ceoln @Andre What my friend Andre is trying very hard to do is what I would think is everyone on earth's responsibility to do. He is trying to understand reality. He has seen all of the same apparent contradictions that I have to believe you have noticed and he is trying desperately to understand reality by theorizing a fact pattern that explains what he is seeing.
(DIR) Post #APurToN7UoEXtUa3O4 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:28:22Z
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@Bryan @ceoln And we must never forget that #AndreIsFullOfShit
(DIR) Post #APurstn6U7yJwNhGHA by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:32:54Z
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@Andre @ceoln Yes - please be specific - I am not aware of any self-evidently idiotic things that Trump has ever done. He is clearly a man in utter control of his actions and communications. Have you ever watched him speak? (as in listened to an entire speech, not just select sound clips)
(DIR) Post #APurzLJr34FT3V5YDg by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:28:38Z
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@ceoln @Andre "Not a thing"?? Since when is understanding a metaphor not a thing? Did you really think that he meant literally "dropped" as in lifted the rulings above their heads in a big heavy binder and dropped them on their heads, or could he perhaps have meant something more feasible such as "showed them"?
(DIR) Post #APurzLv4og1SuwVHEm by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:34:04Z
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@Bryan @ceoln I certainly did not mean that Trump was holding them in secret to be revealed at some opportune moment. I am imagining they were all there in nice binders on the appropriate people's desks when they showed up for work.
(DIR) Post #APus1Ml8fJLW6JobbM by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:34:25Z
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@Andre @Bryan Specific examples of things that suggest that Trump isn't smart? Well, the "disinfectants" thing, the thing about shining light on COVID, the "very stable genius" thing, the "man woman person camera TV" thing, the secret plan to defeat ISIS, the "grab them by the pussy", the dictated Harold Bornstein letter, Michigan Man of the Year, "Frederick Douglass is getting recognized more and more", people having to put his name in briefings so he wouldn't lose interest, etc, etc. And that's aside from the policy stuff, which would take up more characters.
(DIR) Post #APusANhwVZwBeHcRjE by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:36:04Z
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@ceoln @Bryan You gotta do some deeper digging on ALL of that stuff. If you are accepting the mainstream interpretations of any/all of that stuff, you have a LONG way to go, my friend.
(DIR) Post #APusHkPeURqe5tZnAO by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:37:23Z
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@Andre @Bryan Well, no. The flat statement "you have to dig deeper!" has no evidentiary value whatever. That's what Flat Earth people say, for instance. Only actual evidence is interesting.
(DIR) Post #APusRcE7mQGbbMtEAK by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:39:10Z
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@Andre @Bryan So what were you suggesting that Biden might be afraid of Trump doing? I assumed it was a metaphor for something, obviously not a physical reduction in elevation. :)
(DIR) Post #APusRjfK7hBOfkfY24 by Bakerfiend@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:39:12Z
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@Andre EXCUSE ME! I beg to differ. You are one that puts thought into things as if he were a protege of Socrates. @Bryan @ceoln
(DIR) Post #APusuucMTwgp2QCE4G by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:44:28Z
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@ceoln @Bryan The disinfectants thing is correct. Aerosolised hydrogen peroxide and other compounds are very effective when inhaled at proper doses. Certain blood born diseases are responsive to UV light treatment (there are a number of patents on this). Trump commented that the groupies around billionaires were willing to let rich guys do anything, you could, if you wanted to, just grab 'em by the pussy. He did not say he wanted to do or did do this. And he was correct in this regard. Etc.
(DIR) Post #APut1eZIYGbjHxygKG by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:36:29Z
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@Bryan @Andre I don't know why you would assume that I haven't spent at least a few moments considering that I might be wrong! :) But the preponderance of the evidence seems very convincing to me; I see essentially nothing on the other side. If you have some evidence for a smart Trump, I would be interested, although of course you are not obliged to bother.
(DIR) Post #APut1ezsxPsIcQPulc by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:45:41Z
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@ceoln @Bryan 1. Billionaire2. #1 TV personality3. President on his first tryStupid people do not have this record. Especially if they have to start in the NYC real estate development game.
(DIR) Post #APut66krhFr1rlVofo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:46:30Z
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@ceoln @Bryan I am suggesting that Biden may be afraid of legal repercussions associated with acting outside the bounds of law.
(DIR) Post #APut9fEZxaLJfd6eX2 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:47:08Z
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@Bakerfiend @Bryan @ceoln Ha! You are very kind.But ask my wife. I am full of crap a lot of the time.
(DIR) Post #APutA3WTegv705fHlI by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:47:11Z
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@Andre @Bryan If that is all you are suggesting, then I take no exception to it. :)
(DIR) Post #APutE3y1weJjXMSn8i by Bakerfiend@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:47:56Z
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@Andre One always needs someone to keep them humble among mortal men. @Bryan @ceoln
(DIR) Post #APutEnp5SEUnkwdIaO by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:48:04Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Well.Um.Fine then.
(DIR) Post #APutHFqQF3sbF6QVlo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:48:30Z
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@Bakerfiend @Bryan @ceoln I got heaps of the humble pie served up on a regular basis!
(DIR) Post #APutLOQQHUmt0tEsQS by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:43:57Z
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@ceoln @Andre I am not familiar with everything on your list, but the fist 3 things are hilariously still for you to have mentioned. He never told people to drink disinfectants - I watched the briefing in question - that is not what was said. Sunlight does kill Covid, which was an overhyped hoax to the extent that they advised people to do the opposite of what they should have done - stay inside, wear masks, etc. when sunlight is the reason that viruses don't spread as much in the Summer.
(DIR) Post #APutLPCdOFLtQPnNZY by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:45:01Z
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@ceoln @Andre And the "stable genius" line is obviously just there to tweak people - he is an expert at getting people worked up and distracted while he accomplishes what he sets out to accomplish.
(DIR) Post #APutLPYG5qeKVTueHI by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:49:15Z
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@Bryan @ceoln VERY stable genius.You can literally hear the liberal tears hitting the floor.
(DIR) Post #APutd8FTAFcu3SZf4S by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:52:27Z
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@Andre @Bryan "He did not say he wanted to do or did do this." In context, he absolutely did, he was exactly discussing (bragging about) the things that he was claiming to do. "I just start kissing them, I don't even wait."The fact that there are patents on an idea does not mean that the idea actually works in any practical sense.And so on. :)
(DIR) Post #APutpD2FC35eNL9Awa by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:54:39Z
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@ceoln @Bryan He did say that about kissing. Have you seen him kiss women? He does it often, is welcomed by the women, and does so in a restrained and appropriate manner.I have many French relatives. They kiss each other and pretty much anyone they can get their hands on. All the time.He never said he DID grab them by their bits, he said that one could do so.
(DIR) Post #APutqRxzAGR4yQkMUq by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:54:52Z
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@Andre @Bryan 1. He is probably not a billionaire; given his debts, he probably has a very negative net worth.2. He was never "#1" TV Personality in any reasonable sense of "#1".3. Smart people can arrange for stupid people to get elected, now and then. :)
(DIR) Post #APutucDUzq8zvFzOUq by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:55:37Z
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@Andre @Bryan I don't understand the second line. Reasonable people don't cry at that line, they just roll their eyes at the stupidity.
(DIR) Post #APutvn0aMIBpgLVc0G by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:55:50Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Seriously. Have you never heard of Google?https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/
(DIR) Post #APutywf4vPRiUOxCgy by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:56:25Z
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@ceoln @Bryan 757's do not just buy, fuel, maintain, and fly themselves, bro.
(DIR) Post #APuu1QFBuQF6oi1hiq by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T03:56:52Z
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@ceoln @Bryan Are you serious or are you being deliberately obtuse?
(DIR) Post #APuu8T51lMlpdjdG3E by ceoln@qoto.org
2022-11-24T03:58:07Z
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@Andre @Bryan I don't know what you mean by that, "bro" :) but apparently you're more into snark and less into rational discussion. That's fine. Enjoy your beliefs!
(DIR) Post #APuuzviI2HIVnBUPLc by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:07:47Z
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@Andre @Bakerfiend @ceoln And the obtuse snarky liberal pseudo-intellectual with pronouns leaves the game and turns over the playing board in 5..4..3...2..1...
(DIR) Post #APuvcLSikaBcegWbmi by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:14:44Z
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@Bryan @Bakerfiend @ceoln They don't like facts and logic.
(DIR) Post #APuvoKN4dI9AkKb5dY by 17thSOG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:16:54Z
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@Andre this is the best analysis of the constraints that we believe Trump imposed on the Biden admin. Not just the Biden Admin but any that may come into office. Trump is a rule of law guy, as you said. And in order to be effective in making the branches of government and the military more constitutional, you need both civilian AND military law experts. You need to use the highest courts in the land, and you would need to use SAP programs to protect the process of reconstituting to our original…
(DIR) Post #APuvqF4PJSvIstmMYy by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:17:15Z
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@Andre @Bakerfiend @ceoln the ability to even know that facts and logic exist has been bred out of them by universities and reinforced by pop culture. That man’s ability to think was nonexistent. The only good news is that we have seen met enemy and seen that they are utterly impotent…
(DIR) Post #APuwQtjlahzPR6bTSi by 17thSOG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:19:09Z
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@Andre constitutional structure. Many angles were needed. And we believe there is still more that Trump needs to do in regards to dismantling the imperial, president king system. Well done with this analysis sir… well done..
(DIR) Post #APuwQu9e2UgojMi8nY by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:23:52Z
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@17thSOG Thank you very much!I look forward to living in a world with a truly Constitutional President.
(DIR) Post #APuxkWPC9Dgwosu0XY by Bakerfiend@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:38:37Z
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@Andre Chaos ensues…my work is done here 😜 @Bryan @ceoln
(DIR) Post #APuxpACk7Kr7PfI87E by Bryan@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T04:20:48Z
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@Andre @Bakerfiend @ceoln and I now see that he has a degree in philosophy- I should have mentioned that I like Ayn Rand to him and watched his head literally explode. She is like Kryptonite to lost philosophy major losers…
(DIR) Post #APv0v6BoG2sgYoNPnM by Rumblestone@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T05:14:09Z
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@Andre @Bakerfiend @Bryan @ceoln "But ask my wife. I am full of crap a lot of the time."Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own household.”- ᴹᵃʳᵏ ⁶:⁴ ᴺᴬˢᴮ
(DIR) Post #APv18eHWoaZK3nVqKW by HeyLiberty@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T05:16:35Z
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@Andre @Bakerfiend @Bryan @ceoln Humble pie is mandatory, not always satisfactory eating!Props to your wife keeping you grounded. 💪
(DIR) Post #APv6pZbcZiwrmUCLzc by nchia@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T06:20:22Z
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@Andre I wonder if one might be able to reverse engineer any of these legal constraints to support this view.And if the Stable Genius™ truly caught them all, I think it's about time for the reveal. Not sure holding anything off till 2024 is going to make any sense.
(DIR) Post #APv8MWV7EwhHf5Qmfo by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T06:37:32Z
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@nchia Perhaps, but it'd need to be a lawyer with specialist training to do a proper job of it.My take is the most likely path to relief from this all is a #ResignationCascade leading to a caretake Executive and a Republican Senate. This paves the way for Trump/Trump anointed candidate in '24.
(DIR) Post #APvAoBAgKuRxWfBjmq by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:04:57Z
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@Andre I think the primary force constraining Biden is the Constitution... law and order.As I've said before, people often view "The Military" as some monolithic force.It is not. Neither is law enforcement. And neither is ANY institution in the United States.Every military person and every law enforcement person have their own opinions, political leanings, and limits as to what unlawful orders they will obey if ordered.As widely infiltrated as our institutions are...
(DIR) Post #APvB6blMCyLLD789VA by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:08:16Z
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@Andre with lawbreaking fascists and foreign enemies, there are still a sufficiently large number of people who - although they might actively FIGHT it - will not participate in it.Despite how superior a position we might think the fascists hold, they are not in a strong position.I learned something very valuable in my years of military service.The enemy is often given far too much credit for its capabilities...
(DIR) Post #APvBXgvL7yxd2HiKfI by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:13:10Z
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@Andre I often witnessed, for example, U.S. military intelligence being given credit for knowing far more than it actually did.I think it is natural for people to imagine the enemy as more capable than it is. It's better to overestimate than underestimate when making war plans. And the enemy certainly will be happy to embellish any misperceptions its opponent might have.There are things our enemy doesn't have that will ensure their defeat...
(DIR) Post #APvC1wG4gAdfHYprnc by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:18:38Z
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@Andre - They don't have truth. They must always obscure it to have any success.- Even if we were to grant them the authorities they stole through fraud, they don't have the legal powers they are attempting to assert. All we (The People) have to do is say no.- They don't have the sufficient control of the flow of information to prevent the truth from being communicated. Even before Twitter was "transformed," they did not have the power or authority to prevent alternative...
(DIR) Post #APvCTUri7RbkQta2am by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:23:37Z
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@Andre avenues of information sharing. Almost NOONE I know is even on social media, and especially Twitter.- They don't have any way to control the very heavily armed population of the United States. This is where the non-monolithic nature of the U.S. military and law enforcement makes them useless as an enforcement arm for their fascism.Forget military and LE members' own political leanings. They have to consider their own family members, too...
(DIR) Post #APvCxg4qzupvtT7SL2 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:29:04Z
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@Andre This is a long-winded way to say that Biden is very naturally constrained by law and order, in addition to Trump ripping the lid off of who these people are so the American People could see it.Plenty enough have seen it.There is no need for "reconstruction" that is theorized.The "deep state" perpetrated the steal. "Devolution" is an element of the deep state apparatus. The deep state is not monolithic either.There are internal battles going on within it...
(DIR) Post #APvDOxaY01x21Rx90a by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:34:00Z
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@Andre There is an element of the deep state managing the chaos of Trump vs. the stolen political offices.This is who is managing our foreign policy to prevent war with Russia. There are high ranking people in the military frantically adapting to what the know-nothing politicians are doing to escalate tensions - for their own selfish ends (power and wealth).It's very complicated.The devolution element of the deep state is MUCH more comfortable...
(DIR) Post #APvDsXQhozoFa1SBI8 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:39:21Z
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@Andre with Biden as POTUS, even if fraudulently, than DJT.They have a tiger by the tail, however. Because the people are awakening. Too slowly for us, of course. But the deep state, every element of it, is fully aware of what has happened. Their fate is beyond anything Trump can do now.They CAN'T make a martyr out of him. Too late. So, they must try very hard to destroy him in the eyes of the country.This is what Garland is up to. This is what RINOs are up to...
(DIR) Post #APvECFMih4iDLWzFjc by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:42:55Z
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@Andre They are attempting a game of attrition.Attrite as many of his supporters as possible over the next two years.Not so much to take Trump down, but to dishearten and destroy the morale of the movement. This is what we will be dealing with for the next two years.They have to be very careful not to overstep their legal authorities. That counters their effort to destroy the awakening force that is at work.So, this is a very delicate balance they are running...
(DIR) Post #APvEQ5voZ8aq8q0OYa by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:45:25Z
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@Andre THIS is what limits Biden and the entire deep state.They are REALLY pushing it in Arizona (and other states). They are dangerously close to blowing the effort to discredit Trump over the next two years.The outcome in Arizona is going to be interesting.Will they pull out the cheat and delay the inevitable for a while longer?Or have they finally gone too far?Fun times.Ok... done... I think😂 😂 😂 😂
(DIR) Post #APvEnXDnGhK1RMalo8 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:49:39Z
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@h53pilot Great comments.I do think that Reconstitution, i.e., a return of the Presidency to Constitutional norms (as opposed to permanent states of emergency) is a necessary component of a resolution of our current crisis.It may happen in a way that is different to what has been imagined, but it needs to happen. The Imperial Presidency must end.AZ and Brazil.VERY interesting.
(DIR) Post #APvFH2iXFLfjWM2e9Y by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:54:59Z
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@Andre I would argue that the Imperial Presidency is just another element of the failing deep state. If I understand that concept correctly, POTUS actually has no power, but is the office through which the bureaucracy publicly takes executive action - unbeknownst to the public.Simple law and order - along with their fear of the awakening public - is constraining what actions that element of the deep state can get away with.Because of Trump, they are walking on eggshells right now.
(DIR) Post #APvFRFhLq3qIfzM8gq by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T07:56:50Z
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@Andre Or I should say, because Trump ripped the lid off their cozy arrangement and exposed the rot for all the world to see, law and order is, all of a sudden, a concern to them, whereas before it was not.
(DIR) Post #APvFlDVng2CVgfTOYy by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T08:00:26Z
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@h53pilot As I perceive it, the Imperial Presidency is an amalgam of the Administrative State, the Pen and Phone Presidency, the unrestrained corporatist media, etc. It is a many-headed monster. Each of us perceives it differently. And we are all correct. And a bit wrong.But a return to the Rule of Law, a Return to the Constitution, a return to Virtue, is something we should all support and fight for.
(DIR) Post #APvFnNBuf1ugHnCPAW by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T08:00:50Z
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@h53pilot Rule of Law. Petty and Grand.
(DIR) Post #APvLoNAQpnnEE6MlYO by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T09:08:14Z
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@h53pilot Because We DEMAND it!
(DIR) Post #APvPai2epHS4jLTD4C by AnotherStag@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T09:50:35Z
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@Andre 6 hours later...Still no reply from the academic troll...And me, sitting here with fresh popcorn and 3d glasses!Le sigh...@ceoln @Bryan
(DIR) Post #APvVEy7Sy8Z7wqjgUy by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T10:53:53Z
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@Andre Two elements in place. The fundamental, structural reforms enacted, as you described. Agreed.And contingent, situational measures put into place in anticipation of the return of a DS agent to the WH. "Spy vs. Spy", if you will. Oh, and Trump's judicial appointments. Those have been crucial.
(DIR) Post #APvdYBzUQ2kc6YgN0K by SkatyG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T12:27:00Z
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@AndreYou have a way of expressing what many of us have a hard time putting into words. I love the live threads! 🙂
(DIR) Post #APvf3lqZFz3qF38AcK by icare4america@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T12:43:55Z
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@Andre @SkatyG I cant get on board with most of it. Biden and his doles are just flat out incompetent... Biden's handlers and others are having a hard time controlling him.. and getting him to do anything..Our Military is doing nothing behind the scenes... and involved in nothing. One thing I know is that unlike 2016 when Trump felt/knew he would lose and was deeply surprised he won, in 2024 he is utterly Confident (1000%) he will Win and Return.
(DIR) Post #APvgF245OmeRgGO6HA by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T12:57:09Z
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@icare4america @Andre @SkatyG I also think Obama got away with stuff that most would not because people were afraid of being labeled racist so he often went unchallenged and took advantage of it. The pen and phone should not work like they have.
(DIR) Post #APvn65RKBIjPDiwGi8 by SkatyG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T14:13:59Z
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@Phil I also think that is why many voted for elpreZero... to prove that they were not racist, however, now knowing how pervasive the cheat has been for years, I have to wonder if he won it honestly. @icare4america @Andre
(DIR) Post #APvna80TCbDDrvhd0C by icare4america@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T14:19:24Z
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@SkatyG @Phil @Andre He did not win 2012 !!!
(DIR) Post #APvolDDEHsex9bWIS0 by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T14:32:37Z
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@Andre Reasonable question that I don't think we will ever be able to answer.IMO though, it appears that looking in the closet when we should be looking in the garage can lead to conjecture that turns out to be irrelevant to the solution.In other words, Devolution & Reconstitution could both be in play, or only one could be, maybe a combination, or none.The point is, neither answer the question of election fraud, and solving the 2020 insurrection.
(DIR) Post #APvpyW1Hm0LNCcqBYO by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T14:46:13Z
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@Andre Lets say you have a 'valuable safe' in your house and it got robbed. Now you put secret mechanisms in place to keep 'new safe' secure. Now the thieves continue to steal from you when your away, but can't get to the new safe. Does it matter what kind of mechanism that you have put in place, if lets say after 4yrs, they are able to rob that 'new safe' again?President Trump made it clear- "Solve the 2020 election, it's the MOST IMPORTANT thing to do"
(DIR) Post #APvqjWFCkwvRVdlRoW by GCIslander@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T14:54:43Z
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@Andre I'm going to put together a thread that will have us looking in the direction of what is 'most important', and that is election fraud.First, off to see some family.
(DIR) Post #APvyjF6NI53ryb0sdc by Janh@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T16:24:18Z
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@Andre I am just not seeing this! I have read 17sog and I think the Biden admin did a masterful job with the mandating of the vax through private companies and federal contractors! All their EO's have been followed even the illegal ones like open boarders. So his hands tied? Maybe but I can't see it anywhere!
(DIR) Post #APvzq9eo22x14TyhPM by Janh@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T16:36:46Z
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@Andre I have no idea what he set out to do other than what he has done, do you? Was there a written Biden game plan I am u aware of? He accomplished the 4 most important things: jab as many as they could through what ever means possible, to pass green new energy infrastructure, open boarders to build a antifa ARMY, and no more domestic fail fuels which was the key component in inflation, which is taking the wealth away from middle class Americans faster than the the crash of 2008!
(DIR) Post #APw0AUzePjtB2IQeTA by Janh@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T16:40:26Z
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@Andre I have no idea what he set out to do other than what he has done, do you? Was there a written Biden game plan I am unaware of? He accomplished the 4 most important things: jab as many as they could through what ever means possible, to pass green new energy infrastructure, open boarders to build a antifa ARMY, and no more domestic fossil fuels which was the key component in inflation, which is taking the wealth away from middle class Americans faster than the the crash of 2008!
(DIR) Post #APw4Yajf7GxTbyh5gu by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:29:36Z
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@SkatyG @Phil @icare4america Nope. Stolen too.
(DIR) Post #APw4iJKgfsGyX8e9yq by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:31:22Z
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@GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 @h53pilot There is going to have to be some sort of tribunal or commission that reviews and reveals what happened. Necessary, just like in Germany after WW2.
(DIR) Post #APw4vYVjYNvtN984gK by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:33:46Z
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@Janh This is one of those ideas that conveniently appeal to their own invisibility as confirmation! I completely accept that my notions are nonsense. I am struggling to explain what I see and this is merely my latest conjecture.I offer it on those terms.
(DIR) Post #APw4znm8k4KHsBpOGe by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:34:32Z
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@Janh I agree that bien has wielded what authority that he could with devastating effect.
(DIR) Post #APw5fTcw2mKZXvOWfY by agitatedman@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:42:03Z
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@Andre @Janh I wonder what Biden's mental degradation, ego, and anger plays into this. Can you imagine trying to manipulate an idiot who is in further mental decline who's fuse is non-existent?He's the President, and no matter what they cannot just bypass him. There ARE people involved that will not allow that. I'm sure they've tried, his wife is probably in the mix. But imagine all the dynamics involved that a mentally healthy idiot without the short fuse wouldn't have
(DIR) Post #APw66jthetubpKEmR6 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:46:59Z
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@Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 The reinstitution of law and order must be demonstrated on those who have escaped it for so long.It will be. When the truth is comprehended by enough people, it will take a strong and morally grounded leader to barbarism... to prevent lynchings and tarring and featherings (the real kind).Trump is that man to get both done.
(DIR) Post #APw6ZB6m5CuaKOuc4m by HunDriverWidow@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:52:07Z
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@h53pilot @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776
(DIR) Post #APw6mSx13WiDQkgSGW by HunDriverWidow@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:54:32Z
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@h53pilot @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 When the peoples of the world realize their loved ones & friends were murdered & by whom for power & control, what do you think they will do to those responsible? Those responsible will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide ever including their families.Stew Peters Documentary - Died Suddenlyhttps://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html
(DIR) Post #APw70LhApQdAywtSbo by HunDriverWidow@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T17:57:02Z
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@h53pilot @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 When the people of the world realize their loved ones & friends were murdered & maimed by whom for power & control, what do you think they will do to those responsible? Those responsible & their families will have nowhere to run & nowhere to hide ever. Stew Peters Documentary - Died Suddenlyhttps://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html
(DIR) Post #APw8TCcJlCmDB6wcb2 by h53pilot@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T18:13:27Z
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@HunDriverWidow @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 Exactly. That is why we will need a strong and moral leader to prevent our society from becoming barbaric. History will not judge us kindly if we act that way.Death penalties? Yes.By vigilantism? No.
(DIR) Post #APw9bD8HpL6J33HQy8 by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T18:26:06Z
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@agitatedman @Janh And he is an egomaniac. Lots of eggshells getting trod upon in that place.
(DIR) Post #APw9e4BbXvvQAbC5DM by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T18:26:38Z
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@agitatedman @Janh And you have been on fire elsewhere, OC.
(DIR) Post #APw9n0T8jh83FPeuSe by Andre@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T18:28:14Z
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@h53pilot @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 Given what has accumulated in terms of human suffering, and given he long term effects, especially in terms of fertility, Lynch mobs and woodchipper courts are not merely theoretical.If I was a jab-enthusiast GP, nurse, etc., I would be pretty anxious right now.
(DIR) Post #APwAMZeju3a0Vv2oAi by Nobody@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T18:34:41Z
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@h53pilot Justice must be swift, and appropriately harsh. As more wake to the horrors of what they've done. The mob seeking retribution will not tolerate anything less.
(DIR) Post #APwCx82JksvtTYdBsu by agitatedman@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T19:03:41Z
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@Andre @Janh Did you expect anything less of me?
(DIR) Post #APwQOaliKv23oHI5nE by SkatyG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T21:34:19Z
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@Andre @Phil @icare4america
(DIR) Post #APwWP6R3CRk5kPFi76 by cully45@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T22:41:38Z
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@icare4america @SkatyG @Phil @Andre He didn't get my vote.
(DIR) Post #APwb6Jjm1DgTGts6SW by SkatyG@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-24T23:34:16Z
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@cully45 Mine either! @icare4america @Phil @Andre
(DIR) Post #APwolTGQnn3S5y6Jsm by HunDriverWidow@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-25T02:07:22Z
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@h53pilot @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776 Death penalties meted out in public would be a good first step as a deterrent in the future. Start with Pennsylvania Ave & every state Capitol through the nation, Coast to Coast.
(DIR) Post #APwpqaxthHDVNjRHpA by HunDriverWidow@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-25T02:19:30Z
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@h53pilot @Andre @GCIslander @nchia @Missustruth1776
(DIR) Post #AQ517cE0v304yMyXAG by Janh@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-29T01:03:32Z
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@agitatedman @Andre I would really like to be a bug in the room of the oval the residence the Medical doctors office COS office & the oval!