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(DIR) Post #APtUCYdiF8Xa4fBYoa by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:32:46Z
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Sp I wrote a pretty lengthy blog post entitled:Eugen Rochko, CEO of Mastodon, Found to Support Nazi’s AgendaSadly I wish it was clickbait.You can all read it here:https://jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko-ceo-of-mastodon-found-to-support-nazis-agenda/It is the pinnacle of the recent drama. I will also be sharing it on twitter, linking the joinmastodon account there. I tried to include most of the evidence in the article. Hopefully this will have some positive result#fediblock #mastoadmin #mastodon @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtV6C4vJOdsJpRUZM by mguhlin@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:42:52Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Will qoto be around in the future die to this back and forth? Should members move to another instance?
(DIR) Post #APtVDECRp5iyvQJepU by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
2022-11-23T11:44:07Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Seems like a reasonable point of concern. Sweep bad behavior under the rug rather than publicly point it out and invite a community response?
(DIR) Post #APtVKYYSXf5g5A6eAa by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:45:24Z
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@mguhlinSo far it has worked in our favor.. about 20 instances have reversed their stance on us and now support us, there have been dozens of emails to eugen asking him to reconsider his stance. We remain one of the most connected and largest instances in the fediverse.Most likely it wont die, but hopefully thrive.Doing nothing would have more than likely caused it to die.That said, if things do start going south and that trend reverses you always have the option to move at any time and take your followers with you.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtW5bYfC3U50VdUy8 by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T11:53:56Z
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@freemo So, it really is click bait because it's not true that he supports a nazi's agenda. I read the whole blog post and can't see how that's true.Did he handle a situation badly? Maybe. Does he support nazis? Not from anything I can see in your post. Did he support you and your community? No. Sorry about that.Also, it's not clear how delisting from the join site harmed your users. Could you expand on that?I'm really sorry for what you and your community have been through.
(DIR) Post #APtWCxI6mzBmRDOiTQ by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:55:14Z
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@Elephantidae The Nazi's agenda was to get us defederated and delisted, he knew this was his agenda. He then delisted us as a direct result of that Nazi's campaign, therefore,he satisfied the Nazi and appeased his agenda.I'd say that makes it quite literally true.
(DIR) Post #APtWHPSbzvaKxiR0AC by cooplogic@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:56:06Z
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@freemo thanks for the history lesson. I hope it leads to a safer mastodon experience for all.As a side note. That blog was tough to read on a phone. If it’s easy to make it phone optimized, that might be worth it.
(DIR) Post #APtWOusZa9e8Qt9nge by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:57:25Z
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@Elephantidae AS for how it hurt hte community... three ways I can think of.1) It lends credibility to the Nazi's claims, giving the impression to others QOTO was delisted because the claims against it were true.2) It significantly reduces our influx of new users. As a specialty instance it is not easy to find new users as a generalist instance might3) it no longer shows up when trying to connect using the official mastodon app which relies on that list, causing people to have a hard time connecting even if they are already here.
(DIR) Post #APtWQQlOWTl1bqWOY4 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:57:43Z
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@cooplogic ill have to look into that, thanks.
(DIR) Post #APtWSuQ7EMEyARkZlI by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T11:58:09Z
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@freemo OK, that's probably not something we are going to agree on. I think there is a big difference between "supporting an agenda" and "not standing up to nazis." When I read your article I was expecting him to be secretly promoting nazi groups or something.
(DIR) Post #APtWZ3olChKz3DD8ZU by Romaq@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:59:17Z
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@freemo @cooplogic Yup... I'll have to wait until I jump on the PC. Simply not possible to read on my phone at the moment.
(DIR) Post #APtWZfbchzPMFTMBN2 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:59:21Z
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@Elephantidae Well it isnt that he was "not standing up to a nazi".. This isnt a case of inaction... It took a specific action, directly in line with the agenda of a nazi...
(DIR) Post #APtWaduqTeR1ISoNf6 by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T11:59:26Z
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@freemo Thanks. You might want to put that in the article.
(DIR) Post #APtWcNZIEDMnAtYh3w by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T11:59:52Z
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@Elephantidae I will thanks.
(DIR) Post #APtWivSx6tX62niMXw by oligneisti@social.linux.pizza
2022-11-23T12:01:00Z
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I would call this clickbait after reading the whole (confusing and one-sided) post.@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtWqKLN0vCJEChHxA by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:02:23Z
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@oligneisti Feel free to offer any specific objections that are inaccurate or confusing and ill be happy to help clean up the article.One sided, absolutely.. no way to really not make it one sided if I'm the author and Eugen refuses to comment despite tons of requests of him from many people for comments.That said, thats also why I provided links and photo evidence where possible.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtXBObqLiNQXURswq by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T12:06:09Z
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@freemo Right. But he wasn't doing it because he likes nazis or supports the hatred that they spew and the violence that they promote. Again, I'm not saying what he did was right.But the way you are framing it I don't think is helpful for improving the situation, but that's your business. It actually makes me skeptical of your side of the story.I 100% support you speaking up about the matter. And I'm sorry that the nazis have succeeded in sowing disharmony among their enemy.
(DIR) Post #APtXH1NNdvB4DhMlMG by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:07:12Z
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@Elephantidae > Right. But he wasn't doing it because he likes nazis or supports the hatred that they spew and the violence that they promote.Never said or implied he did. I said he supported their agenda, I also made clear he did so out of popularity and not out of support for the ideology. In fact I even point out int he past he opposed the ideology when it was popular for him to do so.
(DIR) Post #APtXK6cCcXWTKylnTk by oligneisti@social.linux.pizza
2022-11-23T12:07:46Z
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How many links in the post point to anything other than your own site?@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtXTdNQBPrRYHOpzU by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T12:09:29Z
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@freemo Yeah, I just don't think we are going to agree on that. But I do hope that after being publicly accused like this he is still willing to work with you. Maybe something good will come from it.
(DIR) Post #APtXWvlaGcOzSIH0yW by colonelj@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-23T12:10:08.675078Z
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@SoyMagnus @freemo @Gargron @khird @p @trinsec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGEYGrkaJQ
(DIR) Post #APtXc9NL63WX6vQEAS by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:11:00Z
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@oligneisti three, assuming we count screenshots of dead links (wince most of the ancient history is now dead). 2 for snow, one for his attempt to get us on fediblock... I am happy to add a few more if you feel that would be helpful. Im sure I could dig up some more links if i search through history enough.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtXeYFhZmwoqNzjRw by cooplogic@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:08:01Z
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@freemo also, is there information on how to use the feature to put someone on your feed without following them?
(DIR) Post #APtXeYbKHOFFvS709g by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:11:26Z
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@cooplogic its next to the follow button, its called subscribe.
(DIR) Post #APtXftNMWbOOeBDWPg by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:11:42Z
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@Elephantidae fair, yes if he was willing to have a conversation im sure much of this could have been avoided.
(DIR) Post #APtXq0cyPxQs2ALLIO by troed@ioc.exchange
2022-11-23T12:13:30Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Thanks - that was a good read. However, I truly believe you'll miss your mark with that headline. "Eugen caves to populist censorship pressure" or the like would probably get a lot more eyeballs.
(DIR) Post #APtXyWEmmDoSO35Tto by oligneisti@social.linux.pizza
2022-11-23T12:15:04Z
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The screenshots in question don't actually have anything to do with the claim you make in the subject of your post.@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtXztb3Ph8B7j9xuS by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:15:16Z
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@troed That could be... I wanted a headline that was true, but also draw in peoples attention.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtY0g6x2PANaYS7I8 by Elephantidae@home.social
2022-11-23T12:15:20Z
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@freemo I re-read the headline and the first paragraph. I think the thing that rubs me the wrong way is that the world knows *very well* what the Nazi agenda is. Killing Jews, gays, trans people, socialists, etc. Anyone can tell you that. So when you say he supports "Nazi's agenda" this is clearly what the readers are going to take the meaning to be.You even go out of your way in the first paragraph to clarify that you mean real live Nazis.
(DIR) Post #APtY3AW6xcnQTBPNtA by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-23T12:15:58.085309Z
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@SoyMagnus @Gargron @freemo @khird @trinsec and to all u corny censor niggers, back to twitter with u Mr safe space
(DIR) Post #APtY5RY6bfAfsCQT4a by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:16:17Z
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@oligneisti Sure it does, it is part of a long chain of events.. Snow created a campaign of misinformation, Eugen knew about it and despite this caved to said campaign because it worked and was popular.. they are directly related.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtYCmUz7A1msHStsW by berkes@bitcoinhackers.org
2022-11-23T12:16:10Z
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@rbe_expert @freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird very reasonable and we'll backed up article.I still very much dislike the title, though. It makes it look personal to you (whereas the article explains very well that it has nothing to do with your personal opinions). As if you have a score to settle, a grudge held.
(DIR) Post #APtYCmwzR2QgH8ZGWu by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:17:37Z
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@berkes There is a bit of a score to settle I suppose... He knew about the misinformation campaign and capitulated to it out of popularity rather than doing what is right. In the process hurting the reputation and standing of the serrver.@rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtYW5duA7OpkZqQT2 by Sioctan@freespeech.group
2022-11-23T12:21:09.614283Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird A short TL;DR for the average twittard might be handy.
(DIR) Post #APtYYyuldKFLki6v6O by oligneisti@social.linux.pizza
2022-11-23T12:21:39Z
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Yes, these are links in a chain but they don't connect to the the claim in subject.@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtYcrbyjBPoGEAom8 by kjr@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:22:22Z
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@freemo @Elephantidae I think you should add that to the article. It will be helpful to understand better parts of the argumentation.
(DIR) Post #APtYftzCM7hAUgU14K by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:22:54Z
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@Sioctan I think ive covered that on many of my public posts lately.@Gargron @khird @trinsec
(DIR) Post #APtYnUvFQTOZ4pG0no by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:24:16Z
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@oligneisti Im not sure i follow... The links seem clear to me, please let me know how i might carifysnow engaged in disinformation to get us delisted/defederated -> instances bought the ruse -> Eugen knew of Snows agenda -> since the agenda was working eugen caved to the intended agenda to remain popular.what am I missing?@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtYtYOzOx0Jbf3Yiu by FetidTrash@noagendasocial.com
2022-11-23T12:23:16Z
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@freemo @troed @Gargron @trinsec @khird Having read all these comments, it looks like OP is attempting a smear operation on the person who runs the BEST and mostly uncensored social media site without a complete grasp of the facts. Which press outlet/ other social media site are you working for? ALL of us are comfortable being ourselves here......maybe you should embrace your "shady moron" persona and just be yourself instead of attempting to "take down" the CEO of Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #APtYtZ33012xbtnYA4 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:25:22Z
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@FetidTrash Funny coming from one of the instances where Eugen insists we have to defederate from if we want to be listed... but ok...@troed @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtYw28foNSOPebhfk by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:25:50Z
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@kjr Yea ill add it.@Elephantidae
(DIR) Post #APtZFgdHTtedVIILTs by oligneisti@kommentakerfid.is
2022-11-23T12:28:42Z
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The chain metaphor is apt because you are showing me one link but only telling me about the others.@freemo @oligneisti@social.linux.pizza @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtZFhO4fv5JqQBiPw by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:29:22Z
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@oligneisti Not sure what you mean by that.. which link am I showing you vs ones I'm telling you?@oligneisti @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtZlomMjCX62JrjCS by oligneisti@social.linux.pizza
2022-11-23T12:35:11Z
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The "link" you are showing me is composed of the screenshots. You are not showing me anything else. The missing links are actual hyperlinks to the rest of your claims.@freemo
(DIR) Post #APta2tlFSTsWPWUHz6 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:38:16Z
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@oligneisti Can you give a specific example of something I said that could be linked to but wasnt? I'll be happy to try to dig up relevant links to any points where such a link exists.
(DIR) Post #APtaCyhzuzdseQm1Bo by Gaythia@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:38:41Z
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@Elephantidae @freemo I am an example of someone who recently found Qoto from the join site. I think that the issue seems to speak to a serious question as to whether or not Mastodon is a decentralized federation or if from a practical standpoint, it has access determined by one person. And of course, I joined this instance because I felt it best met my interests, but also so I could interact with others in different instances. Succumbing to the strategy of an attack by nefarious agents doesn't make Mastodon a safe or a welcoming place. All instances ought to see that as a vulnerability that needs to be combated.
(DIR) Post #APtaHg08to404yV7NA by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:40:57Z
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@oligneisti Perhaps it would help if i quote the text of Eugen's email to me, which is the only response he ever made on the matter and refused to discuss further... but it would still require you to "trust" i am quoting faithfully.I am also not sure if that is legal.
(DIR) Post #APtaQL8XqGrPyXYuWW by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
2022-11-23T12:42:30Z
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@freemo @berkes @Gargron @trinsec @khird This sentiment of not being afraid to call things what they are, to resist the tendency to revere the Founder as infallible, is a very important principle of human behavior as the species continues to grow in awareness.
(DIR) Post #APtaU10GdjiGgtRWHA by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:43:09Z
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@rbe_expert Agreed@berkes @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtanI6HIXZLDaRh3I by tatzelbrumm@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:46:41Z
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@freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird Putt's Law of Insubordination applies here:Rejection of management objectives is undesirable when you are wrong, and unforgivable when you are right.Gagron will double down on his mistaken decision precisely BECAUSE you PROVE him wrong, and you justifiedly put him on the spot for his wrong decision.In addition, social media excommunication is based on the principle that any attempt at defending yourself is seen as admission of guilt.Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, but here we go again.
(DIR) Post #APtb4pNYp0GnLxtLP6 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T12:49:48Z
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@tatzelbrumm I wish I could say Eugen was better than that... his recent actions suggest he isnt :(@berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtcOtnMDE6anN5n0K by Gaythia@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:02:25Z
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@Elephantidae @freemo But isn't this the way that the Nazi's dominated in Germany historically? It wasn't "really" that most petty government officials saw themselves as doing terrible things. But by collective small actions and inaction they did serve the Nazi's goals. So effectively they were part of the Nazi machine. The danger they posed to others was that of real live Nazis.Now, the fascists see the demolition of Twitter as a forum as a step forward for them. Thwarting Mastodon would be a next step. Not actively standing up to that would be a huge mistake.
(DIR) Post #APtcyhAocIMQ4i8M8u by davoloid@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:11:07Z
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@freemo I don’t think they’re on here yet but some of my colleagues have done a lot of work on this sort of moderation, e.g. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2104.11145.pdfhttps://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.12709.pdfhttps://idrama.science/publications/
(DIR) Post #APtdwVHlwb9ca3uGmm by ohuu@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:21:58Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird wow, the internet really can be a cesspit! It sucks Qoto got embroiled in all this! My (admittedly limited) experience of it has been great. It's a very friendly space.
(DIR) Post #APte5IdaL5QpxXIswy by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:23:31Z
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@ohuu The irony is, us being the "good guys" has us hated by all the racist/no rules part of the fediverse... We literally would have been better off and more popular if we had sided with the racists rather than the LGBTQ community... that said, I dont regret my decision. @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APterZuPQaHHQRC5Cq by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T13:32:11Z
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I don't see any relations between some trolls you met and Eugen Rochko. and yes, I had seen that "snow" troll somewhere not that long ago. with the same avatar. I remember I just deleted its posts because they were stupid and senseless. but I see no connection between the trolls activity and the moderators and developers of Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #APtf43jWMpSvOo3Jh2 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:34:28Z
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@iron_bug The connection is pretty straightfoward.. The troll spread disinformation in an attempt to get us delisted and defederated. This worked and caused some people to get angry beleiving the disinformation, Eugene knew about the disinformation and that this misinformation campaign was succeeding and delisted us out of fear of being unpopular as a result.He knew it was the Nazi's agenda, and appeased it.@Gargron @khird @trinsec
(DIR) Post #APtf8Mkpaa9zYBidIu by AaronTheGuy@mk.absturztau.be
2022-11-23T13:28:13.836Z
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@freemo@qoto.org These are some heavy claims. On first glance your argumentation seems reasonable and well backed though. I would be interested what @stux@mstdn.social things about this.
(DIR) Post #APtf8NFJlEXx4jyyp6 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:35:16Z
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@AaronTheGuy Good question, he is a friend of mine, I always welcome his input.@stux
(DIR) Post #APtfRUsdbL6aFqUc88 by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T13:38:20Z
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the troll is spreading its poop all over the Fedivese. and I mad seen thousands of trolls and not on Mastodon only. there's no reason to build up conscypacy theories that trolls are somehow connected with certain Mastodon instances and their administrators.
(DIR) Post #APtg0RsujLv56EHvuq by acjay@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:45:04Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird I read the title and beginning of the piece at saying that Eugen is a Nazi or has a Nazi past. I don’t think this is the message you’re trying to get across and I worry that this will be counterproductive.That’s unfortunate, because I think the body of the piece is very compelling in describing the issue.
(DIR) Post #APtgRRXs6HkVrjJlWi by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:49:54Z
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@acjayI updated the title just now.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtgXTn2fS6mZ5IA64 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:51:00Z
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@oligneisti I have taken your suggestion into considerationa nd updated the title to something more appropriate.
(DIR) Post #APtgZ08Zt1BjB65giO by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:51:18Z
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@FetidTrash I have updated the title to something more appropriate.@troed @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtga3YieNik4zoyzA by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:51:29Z
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@berkes I have updated the title to be more fair.@rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtgaU9TmKZeYXDhtQ by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T13:51:36Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Whoa. It's crazy that Gargron openly admitted that he sided with #Nazis because it was popular to do...
(DIR) Post #APtgjdn7JEBL3f7rtY by kjr@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:53:14Z
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@freemo @Elephantidae Another thing it see as necessary, is to change the mention to the "Support Nazi’s agenda".It sounds me quite populist, and it can be interpreted as a comparison of the facts that you expose with the Holocaust, even if I know that it is not the case. To have a "nazi agenda" or follows a "nazi agenda" means to have a strategy in direction of Nazi goals, not a punctual coincidence.
(DIR) Post #APtgjfqjekGTRSpmoS by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:53:15Z
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@realcaseyrollins He didnt openly admit it, or even say it in so many words... A bunch of people who bought the nazi's misinformation petitioned him to remove us from the list, he did, even though he knew they were responding to said nazi's disinformation... he only responded to me in email and refused to respond to anyone else.His email however made it clear he was responding out of popular demand.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtglu5NhHyeAqkQng by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:53:35Z
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@kjr I already changed the title, it no longer says that.@Elephantidae
(DIR) Post #APtgsfGBDYZsDg1TIu by tatzelbrumm@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:54:53Z
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@freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird Eugen Rochko is CEO of Mastodon.He explicitly writes that “I will take a listing down if it risks endangering the reputation of Mastodon”A lot of the problems in our world is attributable to the typical CEO attitude.In the case of mastodon, Eugen Rochko's attitude is:"Mastodon, c'est moi."So by PROVING him wrong with IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE,you destroy Eugen Rochko's reputation, and because in his mind, he IS mastodon, you endanger not only his reputation, but the reputation of mastodon, and you and your instance MUST be delisted.
(DIR) Post #APth0ckiQMw2l96JqS by modrobert@qoto.org
2022-11-23T13:56:18Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Looks like the Mastodon CEO took the path of least resistance, by doing so he lost integrity. Perhaps it’s better to ignore joinmastodon[.]org than to bother being listed on their site? Lacking integrity might mean they sell out in other ways as well, such as allowing government control, increase censorship, etc.
(DIR) Post #APth52xyu4LvDdPmYy by PawelK@noagendasocial.com
2022-11-23T13:57:08Z
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@tatzelbrumm @freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird Via:Masterbater.antisocial
(DIR) Post #APthA6OjZYjPJFL4DY by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T13:58:03Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Yep. It seemed more direct in your article though, I was referring to this portion in particular
(DIR) Post #APthITQnoplb3xIXzs by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T13:59:08Z
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and there're real fascists, putler supporters and (possibly) kremlin paid bots on your server. not that sham "nazis" like that snow. it's a trifle. but real serious pushers of fascist propaganda like akastargazer that was banned everywhere on Fediverse but is still thriving on your instance. maybe the problem is in this?
(DIR) Post #APthXQ2Oic3Isi0e9o by kjr@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:02:14Z
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@freemo @Elephantidae thanks I think now it describes better the situation.
(DIR) Post #APthdDbZr6VK3mEJKi by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T14:02:41Z
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and such shitty contingent drives people mad. I have them in my blacklists. I didn't block the whole server, had no reasons for this. but having such users is not a positive thing about an instance, it distracts people.
(DIR) Post #APthoiRzVtUKuWEDse by tatzelbrumm@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:00:10Z
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@freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird Ironically, this is all brewing up because of the CEO behavior of one of the two apex predators of USAmerican CEOs, Elon Musk:"Twitter, c'est moi."The other apex predator CEO is Donald "You're fired!" Trump.
(DIR) Post #APthtnV4AO7E1H5cuG by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:06:16Z
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@realcaseyrollins Yea in that sense it is somewhat direct@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APthxnVK5pg7Bt7Kjo by knottedthreads@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:06:58Z
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@freemo @ohuu @Gargron @trinsec @khird Being a Twitter refugee, all of this history happened before I ever heard of Mastodon. I want to both applaud and thank you for giving your marginalized community members something that even the “good guys” are reluctant to give them — agency. Sure, everybody wants to be safe and deny hate a platform, but people who are vulnerable to these kinds of attacks have a right to decide what “safe” looks like. I think you struck the best balance you could under the circumstances. As a member of a couple of marginalized demographics, thank you for offering respect in lieu of a savior complex.For my part, I really enjoy QOTO’s unique features and the fact that, compared to some of the big instances, it runs so smoothly and so fast. Sure, that’s just growing pains, but I appreciate this instance’s ability to handle the influx as well as it has. I like that my local timeline is full of science instead of drivel. I’m grateful that there’s a STEM-focused instance accessible to industrial scientists, who are mostly barred from the scholarly science instances due to our lack of current academic credentials. So, thanks for doing a good thing, @freemo. We’re grateful for you and the mod team.
(DIR) Post #APtiVRntHVzljXqcHw by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T14:13:06Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird The plot thickens when you realize that he is from #Germany 👀 😂
(DIR) Post #APticI0I7FqdMmuVU0 by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2022-11-23T14:14:17.899571Z
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@tatzelbrumm @freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird there should be Fediverse listings instead of Mastodon listings Mastodon ≠ Fediverselet people choose for themselves
(DIR) Post #APtiyyfi9qOu4P6RFI by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T14:17:37Z
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and I think Eugen can read in Russian and he seens the posts of that nazis. they pestered the Russian speaking community on Fediverse very agressively back in times until I blocked them. they created many accounts and the most were deleted by administrators on other servers. but on your server they are still there. I know it's a problrm if you don't speak other languages but if such posts get in public feed from your server people may decide you support nazis.
(DIR) Post #APtjAr4IFlNlxmGSkC by kjr@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:20:36Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird He is not from Germany, he lives there as lots of other inmigrants (myself was one of them too for some years).
(DIR) Post #APtjV0Ifdg16O3b53g by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-23T14:23:39Z
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and besides the joinmastodon.org there're many lists of Fediverse servers. and even if you have some conflicts with Eugen you may have your server listed on other sites. your server communicates with many other servers and people know about it.
(DIR) Post #APtjXeHFyYKcxACGci by SandyKendell@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:24:41Z
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@freemo @berkes @rbe_expert @Gargron @trinsec @khird Is that why can't get the article to load? Can you please share a new link to the post?
(DIR) Post #APtjq4EaCukWfZjG0O by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T14:28:02Z
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@kjr @freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Ah. That's not so bad.He's an assimilated immigrant then!
(DIR) Post #APtkc1Txk4YY2Cn1EW by fu@libranet.de
2022-11-23T14:33:26Z
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@realcaseyrollins why screen shot when you can copy/paste?
(DIR) Post #APtkc25tT2thvqXJM8 by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T14:36:41Z
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@fu It's easier on mobile.
(DIR) Post #APtkeBAQhkYIeQgJOK by curtis@social.teci.world
2022-11-23T14:37:04.370504Z
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Interesting article. I have a few thoughts and opinions.Freedom of speechFreedom of thoughtFreedom of expressionDo not harm othersDo not outsource your securityMake your own way in lifeUsing the above precepts, it indicates that Fediblock needs to go away and that both you and Eugen need to change your approaches to solving problems
(DIR) Post #APtmRaIOANwAjGWhEG by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
2022-11-23T14:51:45Z
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@modrobert @freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Make a new join site that competes with joinmastodon dot org
(DIR) Post #APtmRioaUYRl9ReWWn by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:57:10Z
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@rbe_expert Alternatives exist. But as the official directory this one does have the most impact.@modrobert @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtmVOin8nHfzUh79E by acjay@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:57:54Z
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@freemo @Gargron @trinsec @khird Yeah, I think “caves” seems more congruent to the rest of the piece
(DIR) Post #APtmYQzHAmAzt3qvwW by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T14:58:24Z
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@acjayThanks, its important I convey this honestly.@Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APtnAAL7W6RVG93uE4 by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
2022-11-23T15:05:08Z
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@freemo @modrobert @Gargron @trinsec @khird What are the alternatives?
(DIR) Post #APtnCkyKI0sBS4dTY8 by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-23T15:05:42Z
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@rbe_expert i need to look them up for you, but I recall seeing handful of instance lists and directories before.@modrobert @Gargron @trinsec @khird
(DIR) Post #APu1aBlYEdWiZQjBOi by trinsec@qoto.org
2022-11-23T15:06:33Z
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@rbe_expert https://instances.social is one of them.@freemo @modrobert @Gargron @khird
(DIR) Post #APuBQZtAgtrg23LdL6 by fu@libranet.de
2022-11-23T19:14:35Z
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@realcaseyrollins i highly recommend against it. It's incredibly hard to read, especially for us old folks, its bad for screen readers, it takes a way user freedom to set view as preferred and allow translation, a screenshot it more likely to appear as fake than a quote and a link, particularly with awesome archives on things like the way back machine, and above all screen shots just suck for about everything save discussing bugs related to how something looks on screen.
(DIR) Post #APuBQaSyXmVLp66E9A by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T19:37:09Z
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@fu I personally prefer screenshots, although I admit the readability in this screenshot was poor. Perhaps in the future I'll either also include the content in the text, or describe what's going on in the post.
(DIR) Post #APuBScdHSdcB7XtEhc by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2022-11-23T19:37:33Z
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@fu (I was just being lazy and taking a screenshot from my phone at a time when I was busy at work)
(DIR) Post #APubtlu9h168VMOCrw by Romaq@qoto.org
2022-11-24T00:33:46Z
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@freemo Ugh… one of my friends reports the link doesn’t work. I recall seeing DNS was acting squirrely, but I lost the message and it’s likely buried under the churn on this thread. I can try to get more info if that would be useful. A link to where this problem has happened to someone else would let me continue the conversation there where it may be useful to someone else. The link works for me just fine out in the PNW area.Thank you. :)
(DIR) Post #APucwy0HGZgGqqLAa8 by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2022-11-24T00:45:01Z
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and in addition this sick practice creates absolutely unnecessary traffic load on Fediverse servers and network load.
(DIR) Post #APx4mvsNVVUAOFZLQ8 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-25T05:06:56.168024Z
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@SoyMagnus @freemo @Gargron @colonelj @khird @trinsec Man, ain't nothing that guy write worth a damn.freemo-s_a_glowie.png
(DIR) Post #APxILWqFsHnSHsP3GS by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-25T07:38:51.225074Z
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@SoyMagnus @Gargron @colonelj @freemo @khird @trinsec Yeah, it's kinda lame to spam everyone and then drag fedi drama onto a blog.The screenshots he used to talk about Snow are screenshots I made, actually. Snow's also not a programmer of any sort.freemo_orb.png
(DIR) Post #APxS4sttbft7JtoATI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-25T09:27:53.760594Z
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@SoyMagnus @Gargron @colonelj @freemo @khird @trinsec Ha, yeah, the writing is a bit tone-deaf.