Post APkxnEQ5ZBsLP1BSym by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
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(DIR) Post #APk6ssqrNHGSg1W3Cy by taylorlorenz@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:15:12Z
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People are saying I want to bring "clout chasing" and "toxicity" to Mastodon bc I said it should add quote posts. Not true! Let me explain my thinking 1/
(DIR) Post #APk6stNTQ1LuJAm62i by taylorlorenz@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:20:26Z
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In my opinion, quote tweets don't lead to harassment any more than replies lead to harassment or tagging leads to harassment. The feature was born out of organic user behavior and users manually typing "RT" in front of stuff they were quote tweeting in order to share. Not having native QTs and forcing people to manually type "RT" with the text they were quote tweeting led to confusion and misinformation spreading as ppl would often alter the manual RT text! 2/
(DIR) Post #APk6stsJZM1RqpCj7A by taylorlorenz@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:23:21Z
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In my experience, people are far more likely to harass in the replies than in the quote posts bc quote posts posts to their own timeline. And regardless, I think having a native way to amplify and comment or add to content on a platform is really important. This is why TikTok has the Stitch and Duet function. 3/
(DIR) Post #APk6suSTOuwhey7bTU by taylorlorenz@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:25:41Z
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Even on Tumblr, the Reblog feature includes the original post. Do Tumblr reblogs lead to harassment? No!! This is natural user behavior and makes the sharing of ideas, information, commentary, etc easier. It's what users will do anyway whether or not you facilitate it. By refusing to acknowledge this and making it harder for ppl however, the platform will be less useful and re-shared information will be less reliable 4/
(DIR) Post #APk6susLqhe6xEEGoK by taylorlorenz@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:46:47Z
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I think if people want Mastodon to be a place where news media thrives, where ppl can openly and freely exchange ideas, amplify content etc we need a quote post/Tumblr reblog-like function. The way to curb harassment isn't to refuse key features imo, it's to give more control. For ex, giving users the ability to turn quote posts on/off, etc. And I just want to reiterate again that this is all simply my own personal perspective! I know many disagree and that's fine :D 5/
(DIR) Post #APk6svMq1M24TmUcKW by skepteis@skepteis.social
2022-11-18T22:59:06Z
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@taylorlorenz For me, the lack of a thriving news media is what I really like about the platform. We have of course different opinions on this, but if I want news, I go to my news website(s) of choice where they don't come loaded with bias-inducing additions (who shares it, what they think about it, etc).
(DIR) Post #APk85mChVAWZmIRYMS by rochelle@fenetre.dev
2022-11-18T23:12:39Z
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@skepteis @taylorlorenz EXACTLY. I don't want thriving news media here. I want people.
(DIR) Post #APk8jlWFT08hEnefVA by jbaert@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:19:21Z
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@taylorlorenz let's start by having some news media host their own instances and verify their reporters
(DIR) Post #APk8kureCuRYVjDGDI by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-18T23:20:06.683390Z
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Haven’t they literally already started doing this though?
(DIR) Post #APk9l3nd5PcAB1xxNg by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-18T23:31:19.719Z
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@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social Uhhh.. you can get quote posts if you just opt to not use Mastodon. Quite simple. With the plethora of instance softwares and multitude of instances out there, this problem of yours is wholly self-inflicted. You choose to use software and instance that are feature-nerfed.
(DIR) Post #APk9udnqayjWRidWBk by liamwilson@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:32:35Z
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@taylorlorenz quote posting is one of the more annoying features of twitter that crowds my feed with hot takes and irritating clickbait one liners. Personally I think if you have something to say to a person/post, say it to that person and post. That's much more natural an interaction. Mastodon still allows you to share posts.It seems what you're looking for is instruments for virality, which as others have noted, doesn't seem to be the ethos here.
(DIR) Post #APk9yPKAMw1uhQY7Pc by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-18T23:33:43.131796Z
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Someone suggested making quote posts a feature that can be disabled in the settings. I like that idea.But @Gargron will probably never implement quote posts, bothering him about his decision is a waste of time.
(DIR) Post #APkA8qLGlwLfOD2dSS by ryan@rebased.io
2022-11-18T23:35:29.328895Z
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She came here with a list of demands for Mastodon, and Soapbox already does all of them, so she could have them all now but some people don’t really want to be helped.
(DIR) Post #APkAEejqpJuv8hJLkm by jbaert@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:35:31Z
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@realcaseyrollins @taylorlorenz looking for some good examples then!
(DIR) Post #APkAEfK0esqAwqEE76 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-18T23:36:40.306782Z
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Journa.host and Newsie.social are the two biggest ones, IIRC
(DIR) Post #APkAbU18qzW4Y5Hdei by liamwilson@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:40:02Z
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@realcaseyrollins @Gargron @taylorlorenz i would probably end up blocking them, but I suppose optionality of seeing them in your feed or allowing quoting of your post is a good compromise
(DIR) Post #APkAhkLn2aZkwTvbhw by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-18T23:41:55.729321Z
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The #Fediverse already has quote posts BTW if you use other software. This instance already has it, it’s running a software called #Soapbox.So on my instance, a quote post will look like it does here:https://social.teci.world/notice/APk8j9kvfrvuCZm3DUBut on your end you’ll just see a link.
(DIR) Post #APkAiOAUzzJMR2x9f6 by moth@husk.site
2022-11-18T23:42:05.072672Z
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@taylorlorenz We kinda hope that after years of getting everything consistently wrong, you'd take the hint and shut the fuck up.
(DIR) Post #APkB6SqxETn9umI7yi by bushgrad@zov.oti.st
2022-11-18T23:46:24.968354Z
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Stenographer of fascism leaves Twitter because ‘free speech’.Joins fascist segment of fediverse that proudly defederated soapbox because ‘soapbox’
(DIR) Post #APkB8v05YJPjn7jZJo by moth@husk.site
2022-11-18T23:46:52.793646Z
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@ryan @kino @taylorlorenz "Don't tell me..." *rips out wires*"...how to run..." *mutes all helpful advice*"...my mastadon!" *goes back to twitter.*
(DIR) Post #APkBaU0BWdwuAJvHEm by itzpaquet@novo-atlantis.null.media
2022-11-18T23:51:45.153585Z
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@rich @taylorlorenz mastodon doesn't want quote-boost, but many other fediverse server softwares *do* support it. the great thing about open federation is that nobody can force their views or roadmap on the network. i get the toxicity argument, but ultimately the right choice is to let people make their own choices.
(DIR) Post #APkCboJ3cTo1Nkwmie by bushgrad@zov.oti.st
2022-11-19T00:03:16.664148Z
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That’s a lot of aggression. More padding!
(DIR) Post #APkDzCUnwwnx1F9v1M by bushgrad@zov.oti.st
2022-11-19T00:18:43.234585Z
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Let me see:DelusionProjectionRageAssumption
(DIR) Post #APkEAtHlCQ9WujdEqO by bushgrad@zov.oti.st
2022-11-19T00:20:50.272463Z
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Can you put that feeling into an “I statement”?
(DIR) Post #APkHbpblHOY7BqWcuu by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T22:58:18Z
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@taylorlorenz I've been on Mastodon for over three years. People didn't express much desire for Mastodon to be a place "where news media thrives", although they bemoaned the fact that news media didn't reflect the reality that it offered a very different model of social media....
(DIR) Post #APkHbq95HVCirC7ErA by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-18T23:03:08Z
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@baslowwho does mastodon belong to?@taylorlorenz
(DIR) Post #APkHbqbnYkAmIFYAc4 by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:10:22Z
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@cobordism @taylorlorenz I trust that you are not asking that question seriously but rather as an ironic commentary on the lack of knowledge some people have brought to Mastodon...
(DIR) Post #APkHbr4Vpz8pjIz6My by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-18T23:31:06Z
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@baslow@taylorlorenz No, I meant that ultimately these decisions (is this meant as a space for news media?) are up to the current members, not the original OGs. The mere fact that people didn't express that desire before does not invalidate it now.Especially after such a massive influx.If you've been here longer, this can feel like an invasion of your space. I've been through such transitions before too.But at the end of the day, it is an open network and thus norms must be able to change.
(DIR) Post #APkHbrXE7E6tAMQ27s by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:37:23Z
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@cobordism @taylorlorenz Sure. My argument is with the *presumption* that people want what Lorenz seem to claim they want. My point is that there were a lot of people who were happy with Mastodon the way it functioned and that she has not made a deep enough case as to why people should value something different.She's calling for a bunch of technical changes that will require her to enlist help from the people who built this thing.
(DIR) Post #APkHbs3q9yCKnVg4xc by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-18T23:45:00Z
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@baslowI agree. Except that she can also implement the changes with other people :)Indeed I'd welcome experimentation with ActivityPub servers. The great thing about everyone moving to open source world is we no longer need to request features and depend on silicon valley to implement them.And we don't depend on mastodon GmbH either.We can all just do it ourselves. No permission required.@taylorlorenz
(DIR) Post #APkHbsUQZ7Su7y7JOy by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:48:23Z
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@cobordism You might want to ask @taylorlorenz whether she feels even remotely as if "she can also implement the changes with other people". She's also free to form her own spacefaring company but I doubt that she has the wherewithal, so it is a very abstract, theoretical sense of the word "can". In effect, I believe she is asking a lot of anonymous other people to implement the changes she is suggesting. She'll have to persuade them.
(DIR) Post #APkHbsvMwx13TWipOa by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-19T00:00:35Z
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@baslowExample: I have already consulted with a team to implement a mastodon server that stores its data in the ethswarm p2p network.I can't do that myself - I don't code - but I also don't expect mastodon OGs to ever even consider doing this (judging by the hostility I have encountered here over any hint of "crypto" (blockchain) systems.)But I don't need to beg for it and I don't need to ask permission either. Same goes for quoting. Anyone is free to implement it.@taylorlorenz
(DIR) Post #APkHbtY0dHvNPMngci by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-19T00:04:43Z
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@cobordism @taylorlorenz True, but you may find that many of the people who have set up Mastodon sites before you refuse to call your new site "Mastodon". You will have forked something new, something no longer "Mastodon". You are absolutely free to do so but you may find yourself needing to call it something else.The question of "owning" mastodon is irrelevant; it's a question of what people think Mastodon *is*.
(DIR) Post #APkHbtvPEIdiZvkN5k by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-19T00:22:01Z
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@baslowIt was purely my instance's 500 character limit that precluded me from using the more accurate phrase of "an ActivityPub server forked from the Mastodon codebase".
(DIR) Post #APkHbuLHg5L7sBr2Qa by baslow@mastodon.social
2022-11-19T00:53:25Z
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@cobordism Well, okay, but you opened with the question "Who owns mastodon?", leaving you plenty of characters left to use ...
(DIR) Post #APkP92FfzTZFdhyVcW by zoomgoboom@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-19T02:23:46.878158Z
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@ryan @kino @taylorlorenz "Hey there's this technology that does this""No, that's fascist tech"Why are women?
(DIR) Post #APkRJXyh5XSuqAAi24 by jbaert@mastodon.social
2022-11-18T23:45:03Z
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@realcaseyrollins @taylorlorenz no, i mean like the NYT hosting their own instance
(DIR) Post #APkRMPr3kL7gW1y7qS by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-19T02:48:34.894044Z
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I see.We’re a ways from that; we should probably wait for the majority of journalists to join the #Fediverse first–or for #Twitter to die.
(DIR) Post #APkRf7Z5yI0NIEU9tQ by panamared27401@mstdn.social
2022-11-18T23:58:25Z
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@realcaseyrollins @jbaert @taylorlorenz Started, yes, but the practice is still a long way from widespread.
(DIR) Post #APkRgKdGsAuQ6u13JY by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2022-11-19T02:52:10.980104Z
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It’s in its early stages, we need to give them time.
(DIR) Post #APkxnEQ5ZBsLP1BSym by LexiconDevil@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-18T23:36:10.020817Z
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If you want Tumblr then go use tumblr. Why the fuck do you think your opinion on any topic is worth acknowledging, let alone implementing? You are the perfect example of why journos are human waste. While you’re at it, why don’t you stop lying about your age. You seriously look like something out of “Evil Dead”. Go fuck yourself cunt 😎🖕
(DIR) Post #APkzNkEarFwmS8mX44 by JoeK@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-19T09:09:48.694519Z
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Nobody cares what you think. You’re a clout chasing crybully, you ruin people’s lives without a second thought. Die in a fire you scum.
(DIR) Post #APlcxJFOZLDzOK6eVE by moffintosh@berserker.town
2022-11-19T16:33:13Z
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@taylorlorenz You can use soapbox or pleroma. They use ActivityPub too and already have quote posts and more
(DIR) Post #APm4tgdCU2ctTQIlw8 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-19T21:45:59.560942Z
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Nobody cares whore. Your opinion is worthless
(DIR) Post #APm5OXPsnHe1s5meGm by HitlerIs6_4@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-18T23:40:36.467694Z
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Hello friend, just a tip but if you want to write a long post about your personal opinion on some topic people aren't very interested in, you should make sure to include a a cute anime woman or two in every post. This will grab people's attention better and is pleasing to the eyes so will inherently bias people in favor of whatever you are saying.
(DIR) Post #APm5SL8gNo74x5YFE0 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-19T21:48:50.560102Z
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You globalists cant die fast enough. You think you can flood a space and "democratically" change culture to your whim.
(DIR) Post #APpUT1OcJkolGJ8Sem by KalashRifleman@poa.st
2022-11-21T13:04:22.853426Z
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@taylorlorenz No one asked you anything, retard
(DIR) Post #APu5TuMERhHqet959M by ImperialAgent@mugicha.club
2022-11-23T18:30:33.712940Z
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Have a happy Thanksgiving, Taylor. Don't purge your dinner after. You're at a healthy weight for a woman in her mid 40s.
(DIR) Post #APuMIvYZLW9gPdGXuS by Aworntyr@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-23T21:39:03.593697Z
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welive inyour head.please clean up the cobwebs, it's been years now tay-tay.
(DIR) Post #APuML67d2DotlAhRA0 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-23T21:39:23.630Z
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@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social For ex, giving users the ability to turn quote posts on/off, etc.You have no idea what you're talking about.
(DIR) Post #APuMYV9THo3l9Wx8u8 by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-23T21:39:46.303832Z
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(DIR) Post #APuMYh1P9cjlxzGrzs by matty@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-23T21:41:25.553193Z
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(DIR) Post #APuMgRGDdZnLOvtTjE by Hoss@shitpost.cloud
2022-11-23T21:43:14.236602Z
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Please stop ignoring my letters, Taylor. I won't let you give up on the beautiful future we're going to have together.
(DIR) Post #APuNH4JxtBBCyC72MS by Hoss@shitpost.cloud
2022-11-23T21:49:53.756805Z
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It amuses me to no end that these "educated" elites can't seem to figure out that everyone they're worried about brigading them already has quote posts.
(DIR) Post #APuNlkn8Y6eLNSOBtY by Honksaw_Duggan@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-23T21:55:19.259645Z
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Perhaps you should consider suicide
(DIR) Post #APuOKADoVSNc5sH76u by SIC_Guy@poa.st
2022-11-23T21:57:10.584628Z
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@taylorlorenz
(DIR) Post #APuOjzJrfDVRoGQ3Jg by Suzu@varishangout.net
2022-11-23T22:06:18.640251Z
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@taylorlorenz "I think if people want Mastodon to be a place where news media thrives"That's the funny part, thoughWe don't
(DIR) Post #APuP0qoUXfvSLrmldY by David@varishangout.net
2022-11-23T22:09:24.008008Z
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@taylorlorenz Don't care. Do the world a favor and fuck right off....
(DIR) Post #APuP3fisEWPip7VFg0 by DarkMahesvara@varishangout.net
2022-11-23T22:09:48.697408Z
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@taylorlorenz >not clout chase>w*menpick one
(DIR) Post #APuPJHFwy0RjZjPozA by KidKnievel@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-23T22:08:31.993353Z
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(DIR) Post #APuPpCVIAjbc6OoW9Y by Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net
2022-11-23T22:18:30.163507Z
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@taylorlorenz piss of back to twitter and tumblr you clout chasing cunt.
(DIR) Post #APuQBDxVRWEWzBVp8i by KiKi88@nicecrew.digital
2022-11-23T22:22:09.613465Z
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(DIR) Post #APuQPsZ9GNrSys6hsG by rainignterror1080p@varishangout.net
2022-11-23T22:25:07.970649Z
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@taylorlorenz yes your a clout chasing whore that actively doxxes people and the only reason you get a pass is because your a shit eating journalist fuck off back to twitter or go visit Chicago and scream nigger