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(DIR) Post #APfMZe8yScrN2G2Q6q by EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu
2022-11-16T15:58:31Z
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How do algorithms decide what content you see online? Is there really no way to prevent the misuse of social media to spread disinformation and hate?Online platforms must be transparent and accountable for what their algorithms decide to promote. It's time we make this happen.Starting today, we're setting up a European Centre for Algorithmic Transparency in Sevilla, Spain. This is one of the many measures in our new #DigitalServicesAct.More info: https://algorithmic-transparency.ec.europa.eu/index_en#DigitalEU
(DIR) Post #APfMzwcmN9DbsiWEro by shumann78@mastodon.uno
2022-11-16T16:04:49Z
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@EU_Commission su Mastodon fortunatamente non ci sono algoritmi.
(DIR) Post #APfNDr2nusDmd3KC6i by slamelov@mastodon.social
2022-11-16T16:05:37Z
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@EU_Commission The same could be said of the Western mainstream media - what can be done to stop them from lying?
(DIR) Post #APfNVFnt7APeLFe1A0 by hamishcampbell@mastodon.social
2022-11-16T16:11:02Z
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@EU_Commission ahaaaa... the is bad and only a tiny bit good#fashernista are not going to help, and this is what you will end up with filling your European Centre for Algorithmic Transparency with.#slowtrainwreck #EU
(DIR) Post #APfNfnOf4SpTQOs6dc by ArtBear@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-16T16:12:30Z
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@EU_Commission This is great news! Also you're posting this and I am reading this on a social network that doesn't have an algorithm, a corporate/centralised structure or advertisers to satisfy.So part of me is saying hmmm gee maybe there's some solutions to all this mess?
(DIR) Post #APfNtMmUp8bOvrUW36 by schnedan@social.tchncs.de
2022-11-16T16:14:21Z
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@EU_Commission I really don't like the wording "Algorithms". Its wrong and missleading.In most cases, its not an "algorithm" but a bunch of statistical weights / weighting functions or trigger levels which are either created by man by hand or generated by automated processes... but no matter how far you automate it, at some point humans define the optimization targets (e.g. maximize clicks on advertisement).there are no "mighty and evil" algorithms.
(DIR) Post #APfO3p3aYBIxWWTJei by Saupreiss@pfalz.social
2022-11-16T16:14:29Z
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@EU_Commission With #Mastodon, you simply look into the source code. Ruby is arguably really ugly to read, yet easy to understand.
(DIR) Post #APfO9e9lzRkfSF8qum by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
2022-11-16T16:19:06.670215Z
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@EU_Commission
(DIR) Post #APfONfyW1fgZ9GZ99c by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-11-16T16:21:22.897158Z
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@EU_Commission Soviet tactics are what I expected from you
(DIR) Post #APfOhv3Bga7bhBP6Aq by vve@mastodon.social
2022-11-16T16:24:30Z
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@EU_Commission good to see this finally! We should enforce the opening of algorithms that are relevant for promoting or suppressing content in social media.Meanwhile avoid closed source plattforms (like Twitter, Facebook, etc.) and move to open source (e.g. Mastodon) - anyway the best thing to do...
(DIR) Post #APfP6BlrAfVGVFs0bg by sz_duras@mastodon.online
2022-11-16T16:28:46Z
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@EU_Commission no
(DIR) Post #APfPbHPWFjDeyIFOSm by jobs@social.vekant.com
2022-11-16T16:34:37Z
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@EU_Commission There is already a solution "open source".
(DIR) Post #APfPysKT9lT88I8WCu by miklo@fosstodon.org
2022-11-16T16:38:39Z
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@EU_Commission Do you want (really) support algorithmic transparency in #socialmedia ? The best transparency for algorithms is no algorithms. Are the corpo-media ready for this ? Of course not. So support the #fediverse more.#FuckCorpoGoFediverse .
(DIR) Post #APfRych5UI85Y7iubQ by notbovvered@mas.to
2022-11-16T17:00:39Z
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@EU_Commission how about:“Online platforms must be transparent and accountable for what they decide they’re going to promote through their algorithms. It's time we make this happen.”It’s not the algorithms that decide: it’s the people who write them. Maybe one day we’ll have true AI sentience and the algorithms will make the decisions, but we have not yet reached that point…
(DIR) Post #APfTYVECp47Wm1t2fo by maethorechannen@mastodon.social
2022-11-16T17:18:37Z
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@EU_Commission There's plenty of information out there on how build recommendation systems (it's statistics, not rocket science). And disinformation and hate spread fairly freely long before social media.If you really want to make a difference, support teaching people Critical Thinking and Media Literacy skills.
(DIR) Post #APfUcdZDrP51kVFiee by n_ootpinguwalda@mastodon.online
2022-11-16T17:30:36Z
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@EU_Commission would be great to have an algorithm declaration on every platform, rather like the cookie declaration, that gives a summary of how algorithms are used there - in layperson’s terms. and make it subject to legislation like GDPR.if it’s too complicated or the owner of the platform can’t provide a simple, comprehensible summary because they don’t understand it themselves, it shouldn’t be operating (not talking technical details here, just content level).
(DIR) Post #APfVHadxdQV2YRzr2e by Gordon_DHG@mastodon.scot
2022-11-16T17:38:02Z
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@EU_Commission A modest proposal:One specific proposal for social media transparency - aspects of the algorithm set by statute/secondary legislation, in a specific area of social media postWe need is to clear dark money out of social media, for political advertisingThis is what my modest proposal addresses ⤵️In detailCheap & easy to implementLikely to be welcomed by the major centralised privatised social media platformsAlso available as a Twitter thread https://twitter.com/gordonrlove/status/1445321168727257092
(DIR) Post #APfWdMiUCCIrga3oCe by blastynate@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-16T17:53:11Z
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@EU_Commission Highly important. If only the eli lilly prank as an example, let alone the past 16 years or so of societal extremism upswing that seems to be correlated with social media. Social media is powerful, and needs laws and responsible governance.
(DIR) Post #APfcwvF8eMnRzm2fS4 by Cortexiphan@mstdn.social
2022-11-16T19:03:59Z
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@EU_Commission Nice spirit. But how did you show up in my feed while I’m not following this account nor any of my followings has reblogged this post?🤔
(DIR) Post #APfhYopVLKlqvQNUTw by enriquericos@mastodon.art
2022-11-16T19:55:29Z
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@EU_Commission Wow, thanks for boosting this, I haven't seen anything about it in Spanish newspapers
(DIR) Post #APfipUOueNvERXS8Gm by msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-11-16T20:09:44Z
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@EU_Commission I'd love to see something similar for #Canada ✌
(DIR) Post #APfjaXE7xdWconqCwK by alienboy@aus.social
2022-11-16T20:17:32Z
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@EU_Commission it appears to me that algorithms inevitably produce echo chambers.
(DIR) Post #APfjo2yVEYx530yYvg by RdoPeta@mastodon.world
2022-11-16T20:19:50Z
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@EU_Commission Be careful with this.Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F#watchmen
(DIR) Post #APfsA9BbcVlOJe9b0K by LetUnityBlossom@eupolicy.social
2022-11-16T21:54:30Z
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@EU_Commission Then use Mastodon [:
(DIR) Post #APfsQRmkElaydJIW7E by lilly@toot.community
2022-11-16T21:57:25Z
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@EU_Commission Youtube keeps force feeding me CNN. I don't even have an account and I turned off all personalization.
(DIR) Post #APfsfM5ThhbZIzAWbA by toby@indieweb.social
2022-11-16T21:58:34Z
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@EU_Commission I think Twitter and the EU are about as capable. I'm on Mastodon because I decide.
(DIR) Post #APftEJxHchEmpO0aoq by ilsa@mstdn.ca
2022-11-16T22:06:25Z
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@EU_Commission By definition, it is not possible to stop an algorithm from being abused. Algorithms react to data without any concept of context. They can, have, and will, always be manipulated by anyone who has something to gain from specific results because they are mindless tools. You require true intelligence to step outside the box and go "Hey wait a sec..."
(DIR) Post #APfvmO0JHAeB8gnO7M by npettiaux@mamot.fr
2022-11-16T22:35:01Z
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@EU_Commission Great news for a Great ambition
(DIR) Post #APfzkqAZz9yDjN7LWK by Sop@universeodon.com
2022-11-16T23:19:11Z
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@EU_Commission great to hear, and about time.
(DIR) Post #APg0RGkJZ7FsJo41M8 by lccscotland@mastodon.scot
2022-11-16T23:27:19Z
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@EU_Commission We've not experienced the hate because we can block or mute before it gets that far. And because legalising cannabis is a popular cause.
(DIR) Post #APgD9UbWbJvHUTo3Vo by rpcaldeira@fosstodon.org
2022-11-17T01:49:31Z
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@EU_Commission thankfully Europa is on the right track to prevent abuse from these algorithms
(DIR) Post #APgEc0wU3vExqcm2K0 by kikomayorga@fosstodon.org
2022-11-17T02:05:51Z
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@EU_Commission this reminds me of a project from 2016 by @vecna@twitter.com , called "facebook.tracking.exposed" #fbtrex or simply "tracking.exposed".
(DIR) Post #APgHsLIsQYZtUbj2lk by Freedom4ever@mastodon.lol
2022-11-17T02:42:11Z
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@EU_Commission ?
(DIR) Post #APgYLY4BeUUak0nphI by KompetenzzentrumFuerHeissluft@fosstodon.org
2022-11-17T05:47:02Z
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@EU_Commission great! We urgently need more #rulez and more #BS on #digitalization
(DIR) Post #APglTeRR8HrEEXs6U4 by musictraveler@mastodon.online
2022-11-17T08:14:03Z
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@EU_Commission I don’t like an #Algorithm deciding for me what I will see online. 🤔 I think it’s also not good to see only exactly what you like. It narrows your #Mind Puts you finally inside an #ArtificialBubble not representing the world around us. And killing all kind of discussions. Luckily it seems that #Mastodon doesn’t have such an algorithm “yet”.
(DIR) Post #APgoe8bEA21KWc8w1w by athenamedia@mastodon.ie
2022-11-17T08:49:45Z
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@EU_Commission the algorithm. in twitter has definitely changed in what is is promoting and what is not promoting.
(DIR) Post #APgqcgT7Ss8KtimkG8 by manel@mastouille.fr
2022-11-17T09:11:49Z
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@EU_Commission chère commission européenne. Question simple: pourquoi parlez-nous anglais? Le Royaume « Uni » nous a quitté, ne reste plus que l’Irlande à parler ce sabir. Question complémentaire: quelle est la langue officielle de l‘Union Européenne? Merci!
(DIR) Post #APgqwyWU36J2gS2C9o by clacksee@wandering.shop
2022-11-17T09:15:25Z
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@EU_Commission Transparency and accountability?!?! No wonder the UK did a Brexit.
(DIR) Post #APh00YC8mGHPm4IaOm by fourthoffour@social.vivaldi.net
2022-11-17T10:56:58Z
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@EU_Commission Have to be very careful about discerning the difference between "misinformation" and free speech. What one person considers misinformation, another might feel is factual truth. You don't want another Twitter that targeted conservatives and censored accordingly.
(DIR) Post #APh3nOR899ZFYtI9CK by chinghizm@mastodon.social
2022-11-17T11:39:30Z
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@EU_Commission 👍
(DIR) Post #APh73GpKVTiGSMsCZc by AdmiralNelson@social.vivaldi.net
2022-11-17T12:15:56Z
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@EU_Commission we love us someone to decide for us the truth. Else we might see the truth by mistake.
(DIR) Post #APhUpzmCzC6Yi9cGI4 by KompetenzzentrumFuerHeissluft@fosstodon.org
2022-11-17T16:42:22Z
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@EU_Commission Without fools there would not be wisdom.
(DIR) Post #APhj4haSIN7i011e7c by RichMironov@mastodon.online
2022-11-17T19:21:49Z
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@EU_Commission Randy Farmer co-wrote a great book (in 2010, long before this wave of social media) that addresses this directly. Short answer: trolls and bad actors will (almost) always find a way to work around algorithms. (Especially if we open source or publish our algos.) They are as smart as we are, and more motivated. So some human moderation seems necessary.https://www.amazon.com/Building-Reputation-Systems-Randy-Farmer/dp/059615979X
(DIR) Post #APipWwfCd0t1kY3ZQW by DariaOnTour@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-18T08:08:42Z
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@EU_Commission quite right. I'm sick of right wing ghouls appearing on my timeline rather than the people I have chosen to follow.
(DIR) Post #APjKEYPPAK2rtKNTdo by stickety_pooh@mstdn.social
2022-11-18T13:41:11Z
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@EU_Commission It's a good example of the efforts the EU makes to be at the forefront of regulation of new technologies. I wonder whether there is a more philosophical point, which is that rules based institutions are inherently more likely to appreciate the freedoms that derive from a rules based system?
(DIR) Post #APlKx9AMFiZswxWU0O by andreipetcu@mastodon.social
2022-11-19T13:10:32Z
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@EU_Commission Time and date. No need for a more complicated feed algo.
(DIR) Post #APlNSlZRiNJowfSkaW by skyfishgoo@mastodon.social
2022-11-19T13:38:38Z
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@EU_Commission ppl should be able to choose what algorithms affect their feed with full transparency of what those effects are and how they impact their experience.most importantly, ppl should be able to opt out of ANY kind of algorithmic manipulation of their feed, relying instead on their own filters and block lists.
(DIR) Post #APnCg5clkz0rj25UOW by rjgsousa@masto.ai
2022-11-20T10:47:49Z
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https://algorithmic-transparency.ec.europa.eu/index_enThis is transformational!
(DIR) Post #APrf0QPdiQDWGO6HWi by dapgo@mastodon.social
2022-11-22T14:24:04Z
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@EU_Commission@benjedwards Good news!! Congratulations to Seville/Sevilla
(DIR) Post #AQ4coedhJxsy3gPlaK by devil@mastodon.uno
2022-11-28T20:30:46Z
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@EU_Commission wonderful!