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(DIR) Post #APfd2isDYMMrMw5Rho by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T19:03:23Z
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For an organization that uses a primary domain name <name>.<tld> for Web and email, what's the best domain to use for their Mastodon instance?
(DIR) Post #APfd2jY32ppPSfequG by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-16T19:04:53.414270Z
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@evan social.<domain> because migrating between software is a thing that exists and has been done.
(DIR) Post #APfdA8qLOeC1wKkReK by TheTallMan@poa.st
2022-11-16T19:06:39.177062Z
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@evan faggot.nigger
(DIR) Post #APfdBZwo6pFGI9SMa0 by Mackiavelli13@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-16T19:07:32.886143Z
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Nigger faggot Glowie Kike.
(DIR) Post #APfidauGdWUp94RkgK by spacehobo@teh.entar.net
2022-11-16T19:31:46Z
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@evan teh.<name>.<tld>
(DIR) Post #APfidbKV3zToSQihZQ by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T20:04:42Z
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@spacehobo 😡
(DIR) Post #APfidcxsz2ZxWs9fbE by spacehobo@teh.entar.net
2022-11-16T20:05:22Z
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@evan You're only angry because you know I'm right.
(DIR) Post #APfiddLHa3IIhR6M4G by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-16T20:08:36.846850Z
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@spacehobo @evan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZQyVUTcpM4&list=RDeZQyVUTcpM4&start_radio=1
(DIR) Post #APfio7mNGtBRzgmAXQ by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T20:08:59Z
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@spacehobo
(DIR) Post #APfio8MX6S6hnph2tk by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-16T20:10:31.523632Z
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@evan @spacehobo Now we gotta keep the faith.
(DIR) Post #APfiufjZwOBZ2aafY0 by spacehobo@teh.entar.net
2022-11-16T20:11:01Z
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@volume @evan "Teh faith", I think you'll find.
(DIR) Post #APfiugEQ5ir6aF1IcS by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-16T20:11:43.128976Z
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@spacehobo @evan Well it's hard to be strong when there is no one to lead on. Lord we gotta keep the faith.
(DIR) Post #APfj06lKsSpYJd0KZc by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-16T20:12:42.288049Z
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@spacehobo @evan such a beautiful song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8nJFLu1Rk
(DIR) Post #APfk8HHfk5OHDbaZuK by jesse@metasocial.com
2022-11-16T19:04:50Z
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@evan Honestly, I'd love for it to be possible for it to be <name>.<tld>.
(DIR) Post #APfk8HiG9EeqY41oLg by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T19:05:42Z
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@jesse it is!
(DIR) Post #APfk8I9YVkUZuinbtY by jesse@metasocial.com
2022-11-16T19:06:01Z
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@evan Then that's the right answer.
(DIR) Post #APfk8ImYAlgTrf2kfw by joeld@tilde.zone
2022-11-16T19:08:22Z
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@jesse @evan it’s possible but then where does the org put their actual website, which vastly more people are going to be looking for?
(DIR) Post #APfk8JI6HSvBRVnwqu by algernon@trunk.mad-scientist.club
2022-11-16T19:12:46Z
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@joeld @jesse @evan You can have your instance wherever, and have @<user>@<name>.<tld> point there. For wherever, I'd go with something like fedi or social. Definitely not Mastodon (because if you ever change server software, you can't use Mastodon as the hostname due to its trademark), and not any other software name, either.
(DIR) Post #APfk8JjOdykuoAZkOm by joeld@tilde.zone
2022-11-16T20:19:16Z
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@algernon @jesse @evan what exactly is the mechanism by which @<user>@company.com “points to” anything other than the server at company.com ?
(DIR) Post #APfk8KM2KJfEk0ebcu by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T20:22:33Z
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@joeld @algernon @jesse Webfinger! https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7033/https://webfinger.net/
(DIR) Post #APfk8KumF9SATkuLmC by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T20:23:22Z
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@joeld @algernon @jesse If you're familiar with Internet email, it's kind of like the MX record for defining a mail server for a domain.
(DIR) Post #APfk8LPcOU7i1PKyqe by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-16T20:25:19.845570Z
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@evan @joeld @algernon @jesse fun fun fun.
(DIR) Post #APfn5SsCUtjy9h1c5g by adam@social.librem.one
2022-11-16T20:58:28Z
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@jesse @evan I've seen some do the <name>.<tld> for Fediverse accounts (librem.one, vivaldi.net), but then you have the potential issue of all the internet robots putting those account names into email spam databases. So I kind of like Fedi addresses being different with a "social" subdomain.
(DIR) Post #APg4m2uQbannImxOfA by joeld@tilde.zone
2022-11-16T20:32:02Z
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@evan @algernon @jesse OK I see, except it’s really not like MX at all. It’s not handled via DNS but by making sure your web server is set up to redirect certain HTTP requests. (Good luck if your domain points at something like Wix or Squarespace?) It would have been a lot simpler if they had used a DNS-based approach instead.
(DIR) Post #APg4m3NqqCL0m2itWa by joeld@tilde.zone
2022-11-16T20:32:54Z
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@evan @algernon @jesse kvetching aside, thanks for explaining it to me!
(DIR) Post #APg4m408XqxkgmdTCS by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T22:26:41Z
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@joeld @algernon @jesse Absolutely! It's a really elegant system.I think there was a plan at one point to use SRV records in DNS as a way to find the right server to query for Webfinger, but it was too complex and didn't end up in the final spec.
(DIR) Post #APg4m4W2dEU2HjYwvg by steve@mastodon.tech
2022-11-16T23:04:33.492353Z
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@evan @joeld @algernon @jesse Maybe I'm not understanding something about this, but if I do a webfinger redirect from my domain (say, @me@stevebate.net) to @steve isn't the latter still going to be my "real" federation identity? My posts will still be published using the mastodon.tech instance address, right?
(DIR) Post #APg4mwa9c9rJy7tzpw by admin@mastodon.tech
2022-11-17T00:16:50.061752Z
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I think so
(DIR) Post #APg7WzhoX7S6sxZU0m by steve@mastodon.tech
2022-11-17T00:43:57.355399Z
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@admin @algernon @evan @jesse @joeld I've read the WebFinger spec and it seems like it could *theoretically* do what we're discussing, but unless an instance has code to implement a proxy for the external account alias, I don't see how it would work in practice.
(DIR) Post #APhlL1ANT1eRGVjfKy by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-17T19:45:52Z
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This was a really interesting conversation. By far, the most common fifth result was to use <member>@<name>.<tld> for Webfinger handles, and then use Webfinger magic to map them onto something like a social server.I'm really interested in this topic, for personal reasons. I'll write up suggestions in a blog post.
(DIR) Post #APhlL1xIX8mbiEcjaa by volume@fr13nd5.com
2022-11-17T19:48:17.757168Z
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@evan
(DIR) Post #APygOLtpberpHEunCK by evan@prodromou.pub
2022-11-16T23:06:50Z
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@steve @jesse @joeld @algernon You should probably read the spec.