Post APcjexsIFBTl9JrQvY by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #APbQjTJTCqxFWb33Me by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-14T18:28:56.714250Z
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There's more and more stuff encoded in AV1 :praise:
(DIR) Post #APc8EX0Pp5ipz2BzLE by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-15T02:36:33.514476Z
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@mangeurdenuage Too bad you can't really decode nor encode AV1 at reasonable speeds without hardware acceleration, but the basic ideas to implement AV1 hardware acceleration are patented.
(DIR) Post #APcioVrp88p1E8d8hk by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-15T09:26:27.918155Z
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@Suiseiseki >Too bad you can't really decode nor encode AV1 at reasonable speeds Yes and and no.Thanks to dav1d, software decoding can reasonably be done on 20yo computers now.As for decoding it is for now still an issue on 20yo computers.
(DIR) Post #APcirDiP4j6pnZVzLU by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-15T09:26:57.276404Z
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@Suiseiseki >but the basic ideas to implement AV1 hardware acceleration are patented.:AbsolutelyProprietary:
(DIR) Post #APcjLL00YfWv4p6uUS by crystal@tsunde.ru
2022-11-15T09:31:07.701354Z
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@Suiseiseki @mangeurdenuage > basic ideas to implement AV1 hardware acceleration are patentedWdym? As far as I know one can't patent "ideas" only specific implementations can be patented.
(DIR) Post #APcjLLY2W8kgmN25XE by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-15T09:32:19.330821Z
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@crystal @Suiseiseki >one can't patent "ideas"One can patent snowmen and mathematics formulas tho.
(DIR) Post #APcjWtqvJXIAMHNHNI by crystal@tsunde.ru
2022-11-15T09:33:08.447279Z
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@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki what? Nah nah nah this is bullshit
(DIR) Post #APcjWuYWhQAcXVm6L2 by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-15T09:34:27.237557Z
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@crystal @Suiseiseki > this is bullshitSee:https://endsoftwarepatents.org/https://patentabsurdity.com/
(DIR) Post #APcjexsIFBTl9JrQvY by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-15T09:35:57.140702Z
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@crystal @Suiseiseki
(DIR) Post #APcs1psyuasefLbEJc by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-11-15T11:09:42.101653Z
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@crystal It depends on the country really.In the USA, previously only a physical invention could be patented and you needed to provide the invention to the patent office for them to display.After a certain amount of years that requirement was dropped and you just needed to provide the schematics etc.After a few hundred years more of lobbying, manufacturing processes were allowed to be patented.I'm not sure if this came before or after, patenting the chemical formula of a drug was allowed as well.Then came computers and they became useful in manufacturing processes.Even then, patenting math wasn't allowed.Then there was a case where a court ruled that a process for curing rubber wasn't disqualified for patentability just because it contained a computer - it was determined that the process was patentable when looking at the machine and the process as a whole.Of course, proprietary software companies took that ruling and ran with it and via heavy lobbying managed to get it misinterpreted and got patent law to be rewritten to allow patenting math.Nowadays, you can patent any kind of idea as long as you pay the right patent lawyers (who dress up basic ideas in the most contorted ways possible for a living) and also pay the large fee to apply for the patent - the patent office seems to be allowing past a whole lot of general idea patents.You don't even need to think up of the idea either - you can just patent someone else's idea from 20 years ago and chances are that it'll get through.In the EU, it was written into the patent laws that software wasn't patentable - the patent office awarded software patents anyway though and eventually the laws were rewritten to remove that part and the software patents remained.Each country has its own set of patent laws, but the USA does its absolute best to force other countries into accepting its backwards laws.As a result of all the lobbying, AV1 is saddled with a huge patent pool by parties who wish to collect rent despite not contributing anything at all to the development of AV1: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/patent-group-wants-a-new-toll-on-the-streaming-video-road/