Post APZsicUC1bRA5KWfqa by gray@normie.cafe
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(DIR) Post #APVDPv0A5QuVFsbSpU by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T18:31:40.163Z
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I just bought a Lenovo X230. ;v
(DIR) Post #APVDu3lE5KUT6mzQX2 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T18:37:07.857Z
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Used/refurbished model with the Intel Core I7-3520M. Looks to be in pretty great condition overall. Only shipping with 4 GB of RAM and no drive. If it's solid and fully functional when it arrives then I'll keep it and load it up with RAM and an SSD. Only $180; I hope it all works out because I'd love to have a "fun" machine to tinker around and play with.
(DIR) Post #APVEJ5fY7u7YGcGo9g by nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
2022-11-11T18:38:13.649392Z
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@kino that sounds fun asf what do you plan to run on it
(DIR) Post #APVEJ6RlEegYg8pJIm by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T18:41:37.057Z
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@nullobsi@akko.unix.dog I don't know yet. On my main machine I run Fedora 36 right now, but I've always wanted to experiment with more ❝𝐞𝐬𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜❞ distros. I've not done so because I don't want to spend time trying to fix my main machine (which I need to be stable and working consistently) just because I borked something. Thinking about Void or Gentoo. I have someone sugget Artix for battery life, but I'm not certain how Artix itself would contribute to better battery life unless they just mean to insinuate that systemd is power-hungry or something. Do you have any thoughts/suggestions?
(DIR) Post #APVElQjtNkZbisoaMC by nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
2022-11-11T18:44:38.905165Z
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@kino yeah, i’m not sure what Artix would mean for battery lifei’ve honestly never run void but i’ve heard good things… personally, i’m partial to Gentoo as I’ve run that on my laptops before. i’d argue that out of all of them you could probably get the best battery life out of Gentoo, since you can configure it to compile everything with optimizations specific to the chip it runs and the USE flags let you trim off a bunch of excess stuffi consider that fun, but :P to each their own
(DIR) Post #APVElTNJa9IPtjH65A by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T18:46:44.858Z
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@nullobsi@akko.unix.dog Yeah, I enjoy tinkering. Gentoo would be a pretty deep dive for me, but that's kind of the point of having a device like this. It's just for fun/experimenting/learning. If I mess up, whatever, just start over again. Gentoo is a distro I've always found really interesting and wanted to experience, but one that I've also been really intimidated by.
(DIR) Post #APVF7TUDqfHoc8zsDg by nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
2022-11-11T18:49:21.080356Z
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@kino one thing you should try if you want to do a bunch of tinkering is btrfs subvolumeson my old laptop, i had both arch and gentoo installed on the same partition under btrfs subvolumes, and had options under the bootloader to choose one; they even shared the same home folder because that was under another subvolumemaybe that would be too much of a deep dive, but, it’s fun to just have an assortment of distros installed and ready lmao
(DIR) Post #APVF7Tyi1Jfm8hGDjs by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T18:50:42.297Z
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@nullobsi@akko.unix.dog I'm really intrigued by BTRFS and subvolumes. I first experienced that with openSUSE and now with Fedora which utilizes BTRFS subvolumes by default. I've never manually played with any of them, however. But, I'd definitely want to use BTRFS if I could.
(DIR) Post #APVFgIX2ZLNem5v6rA by coyote@pl.lain.sh
2022-11-11T18:56:54.628156Z
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@kino @nullobsi have fun losing data :D
(DIR) Post #APVG6OSj8tJkhGLVlg by nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
2022-11-11T18:59:46.490482Z
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@coyote @kino me going “i have never had issues with BTRFS” then my desktop crashes and I lose all my data
(DIR) Post #APVGB87dK38NSyjohs by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T19:02:37.432Z
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@coyote@pl.lain.sh I was under the impression BTRFS was extremely secure. It's CoW and it has the ability to natively do system snapshots. The only time I've ever had a full corruption was with XFS. @nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
(DIR) Post #APVGYch5p4d0waWh7Y by coyote@pl.lain.sh
2022-11-11T19:06:38.445366Z
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@kino @nullobsi It has some issues that can corrupt full disks, ask moon if you must know, they ran into a massive issue with a full disk causing filesystem corruption (or was it a partition?) unreversable tooIt's not more stable than ext3, but I'm not too knowledgeable about filesystems, I never tried anything exotic because I value my data
(DIR) Post #APVGhkjpHh7cUy9rxg by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T19:08:29.810Z
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@coyote@pl.lain.sh Well, it's hard to go wrong with ext4. @nullobsi@akko.unix.dog
(DIR) Post #APVJgRbbEXWcjTNUR6 by MMS21@seal.cafe
2022-11-11T19:40:58.980010Z
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Did tranny hands touch it before you?
(DIR) Post #APVJgS3xX6D69Qe8dk by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-11T19:41:52.614Z
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@MMS21@seal.cafe I wouldn't know and wouldn't really care. It's gong to get a nice cleaning inside and out when I get it regardless.
(DIR) Post #APVLlB4cKHuIodKrCq by placholdr@pl.nulled.red
2022-11-11T19:56:47.068400Z
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@MischievousTomato @kino cyberpunk aesthetic hits diff
(DIR) Post #APYQhj7esCLyVHoNIe by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T07:44:40.820Z
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Planned upgrades/work:- cleaning- thermal paste & pad replacement- network + Bluetooth card upgrade- memory increase- SSD installation- X220 keyboard swap- EC whitelist removal- IPS display upgradeIt will be the ultimate X230.
(DIR) Post #APYRH4xremy2Ng5VMO by SavageGerbil@leadslinger.org
2022-11-13T07:51:05.613137Z
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@kino Damn, brother, that's a hell of an overhaul for a laptopRAM/drives/repaste is as far as I went on my gaming laptop. Desktop was built from scratch, that's the one that got the effort...and now the gaming laptop gets limited attention, usurped for light duty by a stupid little m1 macbook air with less internal storage than my raspberry pi.
(DIR) Post #APZ7eiUj30J5iTPc4e by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T15:45:57.021Z
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@SavageGerbil@leadslinger.org Yeah, I'm excited for a new pet project to tinker with and keep me busy. Looking forward to bringing new life to this decade old Thinkpad. Once all is said and done I hope to install Gentoo on it.
(DIR) Post #APZME0FuP33GILCZHc by SavageGerbil@leadslinger.org
2022-11-13T18:29:13.175503Z
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@kino I love those projects, I'd say 80% of the AR15s I've owned over the years have been almost entirely to give me a build project. I ruined it with my last rifle, I went too nice with everything, and now I'm out of features to want. I'll have to use building one for my nephew as an excuse if I decide to make another
(DIR) Post #APZZ7MXYRwqqmocSRM by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T20:53:39.531Z
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Cleaning will be basic dusting with compressed air, wiping components with isopropyl alcohol, and other portions with eucalyptus oil.Decided I'll go with ARTIC MX-6 for the thermal paste and a 1mm ARCTIC TP-3 for the thermal pad.Unsure about the networking/bluetooth upgrade.. might just do the drop-in Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 or otherwise a more labor-intensive effort of getting a better card in there like an Intel AX200 or something.Memory increase is going to be 2x Crucial 8GB DDR3L-1600 SODIMM.SSD is going to be Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND SATA.The keyboard swap and other upgrades will happen later on. Might even wait on the network/bluetooth card upgrades as well until I decide which direction I want to go. The first things, of course, will just be a deep cleaning, replacing thermal dissipation material, and upgrading the memory and drives. That alone should give me a better-than-brand-new machine (in many respects).By the time this project is over I'll have spent more on upgrades than I did on the entire machine. :Akko_Giggle:
(DIR) Post #APZZljwwphP0yOka1Y by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-13T20:58:09.221Z
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@kino@fedi.intkos.link Damn bro, and here I am just with a memory upgrade, SSD, and battery swap for my X230. What about coreboot, or just some modded BIOS? I've been too lazy to do the whole proper flashing thing so did an 1vyrain with a 4MiB coreboot binary instead.
(DIR) Post #APZZlkPJ8G5UOM1EEC by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T21:00:57.555Z
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@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo At this point I don't think I will be going with Coreboot or any other alternative like Libreboot or OSboot because there is no way "back". For everything I'm wanting to do, such as the keyboard swap and whitelisting third party batteries, this can be accomplished with the stock BIOS/UEFI with just pushing patches to the EC.I haven't done a lot of research into 1vyrain. Care to explain that and the Coreboot binary? It it some middle of the road option?
(DIR) Post #APZam5DvpwVGuJQDaq by gray@normie.cafe
2022-11-13T21:12:15.532540Z
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@kino I put an AX200 in my x250. They're pretty easy to find on Amazon for around $20.
(DIR) Post #APZcgw5uYHcP3NLMfI by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T21:33:43.617Z
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@gray@normie.cafe That's not one of the whitelisted devices and it would require modification to work in the X230. It's not just a "drop-in" replacement. I still might go down that path, just need to do more research into what all is needed to do to make it work.
(DIR) Post #APZd5sQbJum4vEuiYK by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-13T21:08:22.835Z
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@kino@fedi.intkos.link It's basically just a way of installing primarly unlocked Lenovo BIOS, but also custom pre-built coreboot image, but from a USB using some exploit rather than having to do all those usual flashing things. 1vyrain site with infos + instructions: https://1vyra.in/ and skulls for custom coreboot image: https://github.com/merge/skulls that fits in 4MiB region.I just run a local webserver for fetching the image while the X230 running 1vyrain.However for your case, you might just well do those patches due to that X220 keyboard anyway, so 1vyrain probably seem irrelvant for your use-case.
(DIR) Post #APZd5suNXCasPaqUy0 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T21:38:12.393Z
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@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo I was planning to just use Thinkpad-EC from Hamish Coleman (https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec) to remove the whitelists on the Lenovo BIOS/UEFI. I'm not sure if replacing the BIOS by flashing would undo EC patches or render patching unnecessary or otherwise cause trouble. It's just an unknown, whereas with the stock BIOS/UEFI + Thinkpad-EC it's a known quantity and I know what I'm getting.I'm not super paranoid about Intel ME or necessarily ideologically requiring Libre mods like full BIOS/UEFI replacement, so it's a labor-intensive effort that opens up all sorts of unknowns and not really necessary for me to achieve what I want to accomplish.
(DIR) Post #APZeqPTmrsZqhj9mEq by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-13T21:57:21.090Z
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@kino@fedi.intkos.link There's a couple of things a skulls coreboot image lost compared to stock BIOS I found, mainly UEFI and secure boot. Even then it's not really a fully Intel ME/libre BIOS either, but can disable Intel ME regardless. Beside, nothing wrong with the stock BIOS anyway, as long it works at the end of the day.
(DIR) Post #APZf3qwe3zcBeS45Mu by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-13T22:00:15.524Z
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@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo Yeah, I think "if it ain't broke don't fix it"; I'll probably just stick with stock BIOS under v.2.81 and just Thinkware-EC the keyboard swap and remove the battery/network card white lists.
(DIR) Post #APZsUkFENiTK5sua80 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-14T00:30:47.280Z
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@gray@normie.cafe After doing more research, it looks like I can whitelist the BIOS (which I was going to do anyway) and install an AX210 card modified for Mini-PCIe off AliExpress. Everything I'm reading sounds like it works.Did you have to do anything special when installing the AX200 in your X250?
(DIR) Post #APZsicUC1bRA5KWfqa by gray@normie.cafe
2022-11-14T00:33:19.401767Z
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@kino Nope it just worked. It came with the Intel 7265AC if i remember correctly.
(DIR) Post #APaOjT9FQQNLwmB5qi by kino@fedi.intkos.link
2022-11-14T06:32:01.673Z
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Mostly documenting this to organize thoughts in my head and reference it later:Phase 1:- receive the device and clean the exterior.- install memory and 2.5" SATA SSD- install Windows- soft-flash the EC with Thinkpad-EC- download and run IVprep- 1vyrain the BIOS- disassemble the device and clean the interior components- replace thermal paste and thermal pad- replace the network card, remove the Bluetooth card, and install internal mSATA SSD- reassemble the device- wipe Windows from the 2.5" SATA SSD and install Void Linux- install Windows on internal mSATA SSDPhase 2:- X220 keyboard swap- soft-flash the EC with Thinkpad-EC- download and run IVprep- 1vyrain the BIOS again