Post APZTOoWn2uv6mpCSNk by rogueren@vt.social
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(DIR) Post #APY0sYZrp1deAyVeDo by rogueren@vt.social
2022-11-12T19:19:54Z
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So my #Vtuber software #Vpuppr is having issues now that I'm on #AMD and #Wayland with texture flickering or zfighting. So until that's fixed (dev is aiming to have it fixed by v0.9.0) I'll have to use something else... And #VSeeFace keeps breaking in #Wine
(DIR) Post #APY0sZAjbx841Jl5ge by trafotin@linuxrocks.online
2022-11-13T00:52:22Z
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@rogueren The same thing happened to me. The trick with #VSeeFace is you need to use Wine-GE and install all prereqs (namely Arial through Winetricks). Also on Wayland, you need to wait out a bit then it stabilizes, but KDE Wayland is still very subpar.
(DIR) Post #APY0seI0aKuztKCTDc by unklebonehead@social.defluence.me
2022-11-13T00:30:25Z
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@rogueren Really? I was using it on my AMD RX 560 with Ubuntu 22.10 and wayland with no hiccups. Are you using the flatpak?
(DIR) Post #APY0senufiRHUH7wwq by rogueren@vt.social
2022-11-13T00:42:33Z
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@unklebonehead yeah flatpak. I'm not the only one having the issue, and it seems to only be an issue on newer GPUs
(DIR) Post #APY0sfUo6EkZdJCCo4 by trafotin@linuxrocks.online
2022-11-13T00:56:46Z
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@rogueren @unklebonehead Also can't speak about Vpuppr, but I'm using NVIDIA/GNOME (the literal worst) and it runs fine.
(DIR) Post #APY1dLxEZX3MdWklu4 by rogueren@vt.social
2022-11-13T03:03:40Z
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@trafotin @unklebonehead I'm swapping back to X11 for now. I think Wayland is close but just not quite there yet. Hopefully it'll go like pipewire where I hated it at first and then a year later I try it again and love it
(DIR) Post #APY2BoBG8NRi1Zk8Jc by swindlesmccoop@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-13T03:10:02.026986Z
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@rogueren @trafotin @unklebonehead Not that I disagree with you, since as an OpenBSD user I despise Wayland, but can you give me your main reasons for disliking Wayland? And if you want, some reasons why you initially left X11.
(DIR) Post #APYezS10cBZC182yY4 by unklebonehead@social.defluence.me
2022-11-13T10:24:43Z
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@swindlesmccoop I only use wayland if the distr I an on at the time is using it. I'm not against it. I just need things like recording more than one window or camera in OBS Studio at a time.
(DIR) Post #APYfUplMN7KOe7gxKS by unklebonehead@social.defluence.me
2022-11-13T10:28:30Z
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@trafotin @rogueren Vpuppr is what we were talking about.
(DIR) Post #APZQFdPygQGhrRweDw by trafotin@linuxrocks.online
2022-11-13T18:22:16Z
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@swindlesmccoop @unklebonehead @rogueren Wayland needs to become an accepted future because for the first time in over a decade, we are so close to getting it. The issue is a sacrifice of usability, as KDE/GNOME had to strip out a lot to make it usable. Apple has similar problems, but at least they acknowledge X11 is fundamentally broken from a security standpoint.
(DIR) Post #APZTOoWn2uv6mpCSNk by rogueren@vt.social
2022-11-13T19:17:44Z
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@trafotin @unklebonehead I WANT to use Wayland, but if the things I use my PC for are gonna be a pain in the ass I can't use it
(DIR) Post #APZbORP9ogRshkxlEu by unklebonehead@social.defluence.me
2022-11-13T21:19:09Z
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@trafotinWhat @rogueren said. If it won't work I will use something else. Security or not. It's very close but not for everything. I use it for the day job. Then switch it over to X11 for the fun stuff.@swindlesmccoop @rogueren
(DIR) Post #APa3HTdZumLeJoAxo8 by trafotin@linuxrocks.online
2022-11-14T02:30:04Z
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@unklebonehead @rogueren @swindlesmccoop The issue is primarily with KDE's implementation because it's different from the other 2 big ones, wlroots and GNOME. Right now, most people are optimizing for GNOME. We need to be focused on where the future really is, and I get it, Wayland is harder for developers and KDE is the one that's the farthest behind. @rogueren is experiencing the worst of it as a Pop! OS user (which skews progress backwards, but not too much) and a KDE user. I can say this as someone who has NVIDIA is locked to only GNOME Wayland on my primary machine. It only gets turned off to use Krita or DaVinci Resolve.
(DIR) Post #AQgYiyzDk2E9cHzztI by easthighNerd@vt.social
2022-12-17T00:23:48Z
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@trafotinThank you for mentioning Wine-GE, it completely solved my inabillity to use VSeeFace under Bottles!