Post APYjuMVSAYLTFpgDXE by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #APP6JJLpAlN4b8PRnU by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-08T19:43:46Z
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Content warnings are so stupid. How am I supposed to know what offends you? How am I supposed to know what won't offend anyone at all? Why would I mark something as "DO NOT READ THIS" if I posted it for people to read? Content warnings just let bullies attack anyone for posting anything on a completely arbitrary basis, and scare us into staying ignorant. Filters and community #tagging is way better.
(DIR) Post #APP9ml65OLs6uZmUoy by 22goingon23@deadinsi.de
2022-11-08T19:49:52Z
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@cy not to mention they’re mostly written in English and hello some people can’t speak or read this language
(DIR) Post #APPLhFV0dz32ujZuMK by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-08T22:36:10Z
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@epoch What about all the people who weren't offended? People who like pictures of spiders should just... say nothing and miss seeing them? It takes effort to expand a content warning, effort that someone's not going to be able to make in the high volume of posts the Fediverse produce. And it can't be automated, because content warnings are just English phrases. IMO content warnings are a way for bullies to bully, and the fewer ways they have to do so the better.
(DIR) Post #APPOeFZwBwaK9d93GC by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-08T23:06:59.233331Z
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@cy @epoch > content warnings are a way for bullies to bullywut you mean if you like, refuse to use them?
(DIR) Post #APR1HsCYW8XceQUNWq by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-09T17:56:55Z
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@thatguyoverthere @epoch Like, you want to silence conversation about something, so you tell them they should use content warnings on it. People foolish enough to believe content warnings aren't shit now have to click each message to read it, and the conversation dies. It motivates you to threaten people, because of the power when you control the visibility of their posts. You are *entitled* to content warnings.
(DIR) Post #APR3lnQh1X8KRlUuxs by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-09T18:24:45.654439Z
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@cy @epoch I don't know that sounds like a lot of effort. I think if I wanted to silence a conversation I'd probably just reach for the mute button. Content warnings don't stop people from clicking, they just let them know ahead of time they might regret it.I don't use them much (I would if I posted NSFW or something), but I don't really see them as a problem, certainly not a tool for bullies. A bully would probably disregard the request and keep posting "offensive" content regardless of what other participants of the conversation have asked.At the end of the day, people can always mute or block people who post content they don't really want to see.
(DIR) Post #APVfFAs9XJpU0bWRwu by spankminister@mastodon.social
2022-11-11T23:43:12Z
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@cy @epoch I think this is something very important: in moving to new platforms we have the opportunity to improve the way we communicate beyond the problems with Twitter.You're right that putting English content warnings do not scale for the reasons you stated: it's impossible to know what people want to avoid, and certain bad-faith actors may just use it to attack people. Community tagging/server-side AI recognition might help improve the user experience
(DIR) Post #APVmS06tYpGA4eTtZI by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-12T01:04:13Z
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@spankminister @epoch I like the idea of community tagging. If I hate some content, I'd love to put accurate tags on it so I can warn people about it. It's tricky though, because you need a trust network. Who do you trust to tag someone's post or image correctly? What happens when someone abuses that trust? Ugh, everything I do from video games to tags it always comes down to a trust network...
(DIR) Post #APVoy8pwqmz6JY0YiG by spankminister@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T01:32:24Z
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@cy @epoch Exactly. So many things depend on that trust network, and part of the appeal of Mastodon for me is that it embraces that network. It has downsides, but at least being at the mercy of moderators you don't know or algorithms you didn't write aren't among them.
(DIR) Post #APVqGBNWEwAhMZsQwC by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-12T01:46:52Z
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@spankminister @epoch I just wish you could follow someone, without all their followers showing up on the Federated timeline. Or better yet I want to see feeds that are followed by people similar to me, who follow the same other feeds as me. But yeah the Fediverse is p. cool. I'd be okay with trusting tags from people I follow. It's a start, at least.
(DIR) Post #APVruBXn8vzzPlJvwO by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-12T02:05:21Z
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@thatguyoverthere @epoch Other people can still converse, if you click the mute button. Bullying people into content warnings is what you do when you want to stop *them* from having a conversation. And why should people have to click posts to see them, just because you thought they were offensive? But posts you approve of get spammed at them with no interaction required? That sounds fair.
(DIR) Post #APVvS8Gc8K7oxXAGxM by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-12T02:10:40.047600Z
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@cy @epoch I dont know. Honestly I don't care. I think they have some uses and sometimes things get posted that should be behind a warning. I also think some people are too sensitive. I think crying about bullies on the internet is stupid. Doubly so when you can remove them from your life at the click of a button. Who gives a shit if they go on talking and you leave? I just dont get it. Don't like content warnings dont use them, but I dont see them as a huge inconvenience if I see content I need to click on. It's a pretty simple gesture. I dont think they really protect anything except maybe a job if someone happens to browse fedi while at work or something.
(DIR) Post #APVzbEUakwZigqIVlo by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-12T03:31:31Z
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@thatguyoverthere @epoch I just think tag filters work way better than content warnings. I never see anyone berating someone telling them to add the "politics" tag to their post, but I see people demanding that all politics goes under "a content warning." But uh, plenty of people give a shit, and that's kind of the problem. If your boss can keep you from talking with each other then you won't form a union.
(DIR) Post #APWaH4za441Xjp2tiy by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-12T10:22:31.504550Z
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@cy @epoch I've never encountered all the people that care that much about content warmings, but the world is a big place. I agree filtering out what you know you don't want to see on your end is better than expecting everyone else to accommodate your sensitivity.I usually see cw requests after someone posts something that might be nsfw or joking because someone posted something they thought was gross. One guy asks for content warnings when people post pictures of their chicken dinner because he doesn't eat chicken, but it's all in fun.We don't have bosses around here, and each server is essentially a union of sorts (some of us even pay dues). I still disagree that asking for a cw is bullying but you are free to hold that position.
(DIR) Post #APYAbqvnKTyriYRJNQ by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-13T04:44:19Z
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@thatguyoverthere @epoch Asking for a content warning is bullying in the same way that asking you to be quiet is bullying. It's not, but bullies will use it for bullying, if they can get away with it. Tag filters is like asking you to be quiet, in the #library. And I've run into people who care so much about content warnings they'll block you for not using them, even if they like the content, but not all that often.
(DIR) Post #APYjuMVSAYLTFpgDXE by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2022-11-13T11:19:53.968461Z
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@cy @epoch I don't know. In my experience bullying requires some kind of threat of retribution. A school yard bully can get the other kids to do things like give them money or whatever because they are scared if they don't the bully will hurt them. If being blocked by someone on fedi is intimidating perhaps I could see feeling bullied by such a request but I'd just say fuck those people and go on with your day. Take away their power. That's their loss if they like the content and still choose to block the source.
(DIR) Post #APZMVgFRWru3SHPfii by cy@mstdn.io
2022-11-13T18:32:14Z
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@thatguyoverthere @epoch A lot of the reason people put up with bullying is they have no one else, and maybe if they put up with it, then they'll be accepted. I'd say "fuck those people" too, but I don't have a very good support network, and could use their help, even if they demand I use content warnings.