Post APXfCH2SXhm6a2scSm by codewiz@mstdn.io
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 (DIR) Post #APXfCH2SXhm6a2scSm by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T22:52:17Z
       
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       I'm watching the livestream of Aaron Swartz Day 2022https://www.aaronswartzday.org/asd-2022-livestream/#aaronswartz #openaccess #hackathon #privacy
       
 (DIR) Post #APXfv8c4iPgZTpvpZo by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:00:22Z
       
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       I can't find the schedule for today's livestream...
       
 (DIR) Post #APXgkA0ZHvg2ZkiYO8 by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:09:34Z
       
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       Cindy Cohn, director of the #EFF, is speaking now.
       
 (DIR) Post #APXh18DjBjHdxCxuxE by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:12:41Z
       
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       Cindy Cohn, director of the #EFF, is speaking now 👏
       
 (DIR) Post #APXhXozHiV8drOnVMO by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:18:32Z
       
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       The EFF stands out among other advocacy organizations because their communication is always highly factual and free from hyperbolic analogies and FUD.Just now, Cohn pointed out that Google does not, in fact, sell user data. Google *monetizes* user data. And she explained the difference.
       
 (DIR) Post #APXhw2csezgB6rroy8 by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:23:00Z
       
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       When criticizing Google (or any other business), it's important to be factually correct, or else they can simply shrug and say "no, we're not selling your data and never will".
       
 (DIR) Post #APXizmew4BD8haB13w by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:34:47Z
       
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       Not long ago, I defended Microsoft / GitHub because people where saying that Copilot violates opensource licenses or even "steals code".It's not a given that a model trained on opensource code will generate copyright infringing output. If it does, it should be easy to show a couple of examples as evidence. Right?#copyright #eff
       
 (DIR) Post #APXjZl4DSoSaBl9h4K by LuigiDev@mastodon.lol
       2022-11-12T23:41:20Z
       
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       @codewiz it's been shown to output verbatim pieces of code actually. Like actually copy-pasting whole functions
       
 (DIR) Post #APXkmkheEDM8mKMKTQ by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-12T23:54:57Z
       
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       @LuigiDev Oh, it still does that?It used to in July 2021, but that was a long time ago:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27710287If this is still the state of the art, then it's not only copyright infringing, it's also a disappointingly bad result for a well funded team of ML experts 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #APXlJZvVJebKubUd6G by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T00:00:52Z
       
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       @LuigiDev Oh, it's still doing that today?It used to in July 2021, but that was a long time ago in this rapidly advancing field:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27710287Not only this is copyright infringement plain outright, it would also be a disappointingly bad result for a well funded team of ML researches 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #APXllc9mcKiDwBXZeS by LuigiDev@mastodon.lol
       2022-11-13T00:04:55Z
       
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       @codewiz I mean the Microsoft proposed solution is to compare the copilot output against GitHub and if there's an exact match then abort it. That doesn't give a lot of hope really.And what is worse, this "fix" is opt-in
       
 (DIR) Post #APXo1jJjxhLAgg0gjI by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T00:30:29Z
       
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       @LuigiDev Are they trying to sell a tool which is no better than a student copy-pasting the wrong answer from Stack Exchange and getting caught because they can't even rename the variables?
       
 (DIR) Post #APXp9f7xWYI9xlqVM0 by LuigiDev@mastodon.lol
       2022-11-13T00:43:45Z
       
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       @codewiz I mean the tool is powerful but it introduces this liabilities. Paying Microsoft to make your codebase subject to copyright infringements... Yikes
       
 (DIR) Post #APXpgu5Ovdr7ufV40O by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T00:49:48Z
       
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       Now speaking: Mark Graham, director of the Wayback Machine 👏 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWfqV_adW54#InternetArchive #aaronswartzday
       
 (DIR) Post #APXrXTXKTBfqsCCABE by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T01:10:36Z
       
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       Wikipedia and the Internet Archive are incredible organizations.They've been advancing ambitious missions for decades, entirely funded by donations, and unimpaired by the greed of shareholders and politicians.Their operating budget is tiny, but the services provided to humanity are priceless.#Wikipedia #WikiMedia #InternetArchive #nonprofit #internet
       
 (DIR) Post #APXrvshwXGA7tFnVHU by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T01:15:03Z
       
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       Wikipedia and the Internet Archive are amazing organizations.For decades, they've been pursuing incredibly ambitious missions, entirely funded by donations and unimpaired by the greed of shareholders and politicians.Their operating budget is tiny; the services delivered to humanity are priceless.#Wikipedia #WikiMedia #InternetArchive #nonprofit #internet
       
 (DIR) Post #APXs6q9kMWqvA71nO4 by grin@mastodon.grin.hu
       2022-11-13T01:16:58Z
       
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       @codewiz WMF budget is not entirely tiny, it is somewhere around $100 million annually I guess. It is completely transparent though, which is a little miracle by itself.
       
 (DIR) Post #APXsltslPi3YaifBOC by downey@floss.social
       2022-11-13T01:24:22Z
       
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       @codewiz  #Wikipedia #WikiMedia https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundraising/
       
 (DIR) Post #APXuT8ZukZ1GZn1lPE by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T01:43:27Z
       
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       @downey Exactly. I'm aware that Wikipedia has more funding that they require.Perhaps surprisingly, crowd-sourcing all the knowledge of humanity, in dozens of different languages and making it freely available worldwide...all for a tiny fraction of the resources allocated to relatively simpler platforms for microblogging (*) and instant messaging (**).(*) Twitter sold for $44B(**) WhatsApp sold for $19B in 2014
       
 (DIR) Post #APXveKoLi0xxeggMwC by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T01:56:40Z
       
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       Before someone corrects me, I should point out that the valuation of Twitter and WhatsApp isn't strictly correlated to their operating costs or their complexity.Everyone here knows that a platform equivalent to Twitter could be redesigned by a small group of opensource contributors and operated by a handful of volunteer sysadmins 😁@downey
       
 (DIR) Post #APXw3D3veheqrXpaIy by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T02:01:06Z
       
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       The market value of Twitter and WhatsApp comes from its established userbase, and from the expectation that users will somehow remain loyal when aggressively monetized.Well, good luck! 🦄@downey
       
 (DIR) Post #APXwAZMT99R4360pVo by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T02:02:32Z
       
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       The market value of Twitter and WhatsApp comes from their established user bases, and from the expectation that those users will somehow remain loyal when aggressively monetized...Well, good luck! 🦄@downey
       
 (DIR) Post #APXwUfjx8kZVckaB6W by downey@floss.social
       2022-11-13T02:06:07Z
       
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       @codewiz As a collection of human knowledge #Wikipedia should be liberated using Ward Cunningham's federated wiki concept. Of course then the #WMF would be unnecessary and would lose that sweet sweet cash so not ever gonna be something they promote.#nonprofits
       
 (DIR) Post #APXy6bjUaVl49a1Ibg by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-13T02:24:11Z
       
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       @downey Federating Wikipedia on multiple domains scattered around the world wouldn't really make encyclopedic knowledge more available or more useful.You can already link across wikis using standards like InterWiki, but ultimately plain web urls work just fine.Perhaps more resilient to government interference? But the entire corpus of Wikipedia is officially available for download, and mirrors are allowed.
       
 (DIR) Post #APZDlz3qS40SqeggNM by micheldebree@mastodon.social
       2022-11-13T16:54:11Z
       
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       @codewiz I read that they have millions and millions of cash, and only need a fraction of that to operate. https://unherd.com/thepost/the-next-time-wikipedia-asks-for-a-donation-ignore-it/ I don't know what to believe now.
       
 (DIR) Post #APelGsaKqbjG1C1XxQ by codewiz@mstdn.io
       2022-11-16T09:03:20Z
       
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       @micheldebree Millions of dollars *is* a tiny budget for one of the top-7 websites. The others have revenues on the scale of billions.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_visited_websites