Post APWsks1cdemtNrM75k by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #APWqobRK2rWhC91qMK by ambv@mastodon.social
2022-11-11T22:54:47Z
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I see an ongoing culture clash between the Old Mastodon and the Newbies fleeing Twitter. The Old believe in heavy self-moderation by way of using Content Warnings for a lot of things, using "unlisted" posts to keep the timeline clean, silencing other servers to avoid even a chance of witnessing interactions of users of that server with users of yet another one that we disapprove of. Heavy self-moderation.1/3#mastodon #culture #moderation
(DIR) Post #APWqoc0PwNbCwzRs3s by ambv@mastodon.social
2022-11-11T22:55:53Z
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The newbies are chaos incarnate. Let our feed be everything from food I ate through tips on getting a promotion to onlyfans bait. One feed, nothing is sacred.I'm sitting here in the middle and wonder if there could be a middle way. A compromise that beats both extremes. Let people post whatever. But let them LABEL what it is. Not "warn", label. Then let my client mute messages by label. Food? Boring, never show it to me. Onlyfans? Sorry, I have this tab open all day and I work at home.2/3
(DIR) Post #APWqocT8DcZGO2snom by ambv@mastodon.social
2022-11-11T22:57:55Z
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But the label wouldn't hide messages by default because this makes some interactions pretty annoying. "stuff about cars"? Sounds fine, why even cw? Clickety click. "uspol". Yeah, what is it? Clickety click. "About twitter". Did it burn down yet? Clickety click...But that's not all. If labels could be applied to posts by others POST FACTUM, this would allow the community to moderate itself even if the original author didn't think to do it.Anyway, just thinking out loud.3/3
(DIR) Post #APWqoct0fPGfgIzT9c by minder@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:23:14Z
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@ambv @freemo you guys should have a talk 😁
(DIR) Post #APWqodPygpdhKYPnXc by ambv@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:26:40Z
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@minder @freemo you'll have to be more specific than that.
(DIR) Post #APWqodyMcz933CVG8e by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:27:45Z
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@ambv I think his response was inspired by this quote thread of some comments I made:https://qoto.org/@freemo/109320984802510765@minder
(DIR) Post #APWqytkAqVh6rMkuJs by minder@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:29:34Z
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@freemo yes, exactly! @ambv
(DIR) Post #APWrHRATJYRhjetdKa by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:32:59Z
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@ambv For starters, hashtags already act as labels. It is possible to filter out content by hashtag, so it serves your purpose well.That said, sounds like your on the wrong side of the fediverse. You tend to have three types of servers... The extreme left, very liberal, but also very quick to block/silence over silly things like not CWing, and this is where you see the heavy pressures to CW.Then you have the extreme right wing, they wont ban for anything and generally a lot of their users go around harassing people or at least being very confrontational and rude. They will never CW anything except maybe nudity. They are in many ways the opposite of course.Then you have a rare few instances, like QOTO, that are very neutral... We generally like to encourage people to speak freely, even about unpopular opinions, we talk to people instaed of banning them most of the time, though we will ban if someone is a bad enough actor. We only really CW things that are not safe for work.Long story short, CWuing everything is not really something that is the norm ont he fediverse outside of a few very restrictive communities.
(DIR) Post #APWrUfoYAdjavPxDe4 by ambv@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:35:24Z
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@freemo @minder Ah, that makes sense. Well; I wholeheartedly agree with you. Directly blocking accounts who are harmful is not controversial. Directly blocking servers which allow harmful behavior is also understandable if done with care. But blocking servers that don't block some servers is not sustainable, breaks federation, and smells of The Minority Report.I can't add much more as I'm not an admin and I'm a newcomer (used to be on mastodon.technology, now dead).
(DIR) Post #APWsks1cdemtNrM75k by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:49:31Z
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@freemo @ambv it seems like some can choose (possibly inadvertently) to silo themselves a lot more than others based on choice of servers. Those who silo themselves a lot will of course, by definition, have a skewed sense of what goes on. I’ve not been here long enough to know which servers are which with clarity, but I’m pleased I switched to qoto early on