Post APVJ7DIyPUvoFFrmBk by marius@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #APVIxbSFleDoFRcluK by AshChapelsGhost@poa.st
       2022-11-11T19:33:48.796345Z
       
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       This was the original philosophy behind the internet. But then the troons and faggots tried to centralize everything, and now we hear about shit going down at least once or twice a week, when, during the 90s and 2000s, you almost never heard about massive network outages.RT: https://berserker.town/users/thor/statuses/109283143643832971
       
 (DIR) Post #APVJ7DIyPUvoFFrmBk by marius@poa.st
       2022-11-11T19:35:32.950059Z
       
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       @AshChapelsGhost there were outages all the time lol
       
 (DIR) Post #APVJCzs7GdlAJv3tfU by AshChapelsGhost@poa.st
       2022-11-11T19:36:35.678169Z
       
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       @marius Not this frequent. The middle-aged internet could route around damage, whether government censorship or physical trauma. This internet is weak and dying. This isn't what it's supposed to be.
       
 (DIR) Post #APVKTmDxMXDWryqImO by PunishedD@poa.st
       2022-11-11T19:50:49.883104Z
       
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       @AshChapelsGhost @marius Previous outages were single server or site based.  Now multiple unrelated sites go down when a cloud service has a hiccup, or when a common login portal breaks.  The infrastructure has been consolidated.That centralization is also enabling censorship and deplatforming.  If people aren't spreading out on the fediverse, and a few sites attract enough attention, and they buy hardware or networking from the same company, they can be taken down.  Not every site owner will be as tenacious as Null fighting to keep Kiwi Farms up.
       
 (DIR) Post #APVKajNQLZso49aRsG by AshChapelsGhost@poa.st
       2022-11-11T19:52:05.353960Z
       
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       @PunishedD @marius You explained it much better than I could, D.
       
 (DIR) Post #APVLAC03v0nqyUZLG4 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
       2022-11-11T19:58:28.788154Z
       
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       @PunishedD @AshChapelsGhost @marius Also; the great OVH fire of 2021 is why you should never centralize shit. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-ovh-fire/millions-of-websites-offline-after-fire-at-french-cloud-services-firm-idUSKBN2B20NUhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/ovhcloud_fire_datacenter_report/
       
 (DIR) Post #APVMaJQt0THLVg8P1U by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
       2022-11-11T20:14:24.186796Z
       
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       @AshChapelsGhost It was Big Tech who centralized everything with "The Cloud" pitches in the early 2010s. Middle management penny pinchers and bean counters loved the idea of "outsource the entire infrastructure" and the pitch of "it'll never go down" was great to literal boomers tired of having to pay some guy to fix it, when Amazon/some cloud provider will take care of it for you. Then all the "education" and "certs" became marketing for "cloud" providers and cargo culting retards decided it has to be the cloud or nothing. The next thing you know Gab is getting booted from 109 cloud providers.
       
 (DIR) Post #APVNV5XJLTwMuwDEjg by PunishedD@poa.st
       2022-11-11T20:24:40.094265Z
       
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       @PhenomX6 @AshChapelsGhost @marius Centralization is efficient and cheap.  But it's also fragile.It keeps happening because you care about bills today but can ignore fragility until some point in the future.  Also it is REALLY hard to get individual actors to care about *systemic* health instead of just their own.
       
 (DIR) Post #APVpDCYtHeJ4D7D7nU by ryo@social.076.ne.jp
       2022-11-12T01:35:09.489558Z
       
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       @PhenomX6 @AshChapelsGhost @PunishedD @marius Imagine all the Cuckflare datacenters catching fire, or better yet the main database that controls all the other datacenters.Almost the entire clearnet would be down as a result of this.