Post APTOmFTXMAW0IuH2oa by the4ts@mastodonapp.uk
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(DIR) Post #APRIe5xnjIA0vOlmQC by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T21:11:01.999409Z
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🔴⚪🔵🟡🔵🟣⚪🟣🔵This is your friendly reminder that contrary to the hype and marketing hullabaloo going around right now but #Mastodon is not the #fediverse! The #federation is actually a huge tapestry of thousands of servers and volunteers, and dozens if not hundreds of developers and even more volunteers, who have made this space what you see today.Since journalists aren’t writing any articles about them, and since they aren’t getting the recognition they so very much deserve, allow me to introduce you to them instead.Because when you either accidentally or intentionally or through ignorance or apathy spread the misinformation that Mastodon=Fediverse, you erode the very foundation of what has drawn you to this place to begin with.You are marginalizing great projects like:👉 Diaspora — The OG. None of this would be possible were it not for two college kids who had a dream and set up a Kickstarter to fund its development back in 2010.👉 Friendica — The one app that lets anyone or any organization literally create their own private #facebook on the fediverse and make it accessible and federated with the rest of the World. It also has very modest hosting requirements making it accessible to more people to host without requiring a VPS or complex server setups.👉 Misskey — Several years before Mastodon there was #Misskey. A microblogging platform what provided features not seen in other projects and allows users to customize many aspects of their feed and timeline. Misskey still has a very passionate userbase and is still being developed.👉 Hubzilla — The successor to Friendica, #Hubzilla took what was great about Friendica and made it all the better.👉 Peertube — Calling #PeerTube a “YouTube competitor” doesn’t do it justice. PeerTube is so much more than a competitor to YouTube. In a very real sense it’s a YouTube killer, if only more people knew about it and more people used it. PeerTube lets anybody stand up a service and then instantenously their published videos become accessible to the entire Federation (and vice versa).👉 Mastodon — #Mastodon came on the scene in 2016 and promised a more user-friendly experience. Coupled with some fortunate timing and early publicity it quickly became the darling of the fediverse. It’s certainly the software with the most amount of users. Marketing tends to do that to brands.👉 Pleroma — Less than a year after launch, disagreements with certain design decisions and direction with the Mastodon project gave birth to #Pleroma, a lightweight alternative to Mastodon that at the time ironically offered a more user-friendly experience than Mastodon itself and pioneered features years ago that are just now being implemented by Mastodon and other projects. Pleroma’s bug claim to fame was that you could stand up a robust instance on a single RasperryPi with little trouble.👉 Pixelfed — #Pixelfed is the federation’s answer to Instagram. By standing up a public or private Pixelfed server you enable yourself (or the public) to post rich multimedia content (photos and videos), “stories”, and more that instantly are accessible to the rest of the federation.And there’s others!👉 Lemmy — #Lemmy is a federated version of Reddit (or Digg or HackerNews). It’s a federated link-aggregator. Individuals can stand up their own servers or communities of topics.👉 Funkwhale — #Funkwhale is a federated version of Soundcloud or Bandcamp for sharing your music library with other Funkwhale users and the Federation.👉 BookWyrm — #BookWyrm is a federated version of GoodReads. A federated instance by book lovers and for book lovers.👉 WriteFreely — A blogging platform that is built to federate. #WriteFreely federates your words and your content as your write them, and your readers can follow and comment on your posts without having to leave their local timeline.👉 Mobilizon — A federated alternative to Facebook Events. #Mobilizon allows activist groups and organizations of all sizes to stand up a service for organizing events and meetups right here on the Federation.👉 Castopod — Next generation podcasting software #Castopod allows podcasters of all sizes to interact with audiences in the fediverse. Your podcast becomes a social network: your episodes can be shared, liked and commented on without depending on anyone. Podcasts can be monetized or not, you have rich audience metrics and analytics, and series can be deployed to Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Pandora, and other podcast services.👉 Akkoma — Whereas Pleroma may have been a logical “fork” (not in the software sense) of Mastodon, #Akkoma is an actual hard fork of Pleroma. And just like Pleroma was started over misgivings in the direction Mastodon was going, so to has Akkoma given rise based on some similar misgivings with Pleroma. But as a user, the only thing you really need to know is that Akkoma is heavily centered on user expression. ‘Nuff said.In closing let me be clear, I have nothing against Mastodon. I think it’s a fantastic project and it is an amazing piece of software. I am thankful for the level of awareness and exposure it has been giving the Fediverse as a whole.But to continue to perpetuate the misinformation that Mastodon somehow created the fediverse or that the Federation is Mastodon is something that I can’t allow to stand.It’s gaslighting, and it’s erasing history.❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍(Updated 2022-11-09)
(DIR) Post #APRJhPZjMzLUZYekBU by admin@mastodon.tech
2022-11-09T21:23:13.728269Z
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It doesn’t help that Mastodon’s founder, Eugen Rochko, refers to the entire Fediverse as the “Mastodon Network” which is echoed across the Fediverse.I’m thankful to @lain, founder of Pleroma who made a good point when he trolled Eugen Rochko Monday by asking, “Let’s declare a ‘Mastodon Network’ Amnesty,” pictured below:
(DIR) Post #APRJqRIkK0VAX315SS by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T21:24:28.059967Z
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Yep and that's the shit that is really pissing me off. Now you know why I'm doing this. Eugen has turned into a little shit.
(DIR) Post #APRLTZoQiBN0B03vKy by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2022-11-09T21:43:05.935482Z
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Did you read my Eugen is Lucifer post? 😂
(DIR) Post #APRN3TcFKMJPKz2u4e by severian@tech.lgbt
2022-11-09T21:49:55Z
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@admin @gme I've been reading your posts and was trying to check out Pleroma, but it'll have to wait till tomorrow, since I've got class after work. I'm not clear on the differences yet.
(DIR) Post #APRN5P2bJ96JjBI8Aq by admin@mastodon.tech
2022-11-09T22:01:11.824536Z
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Please link it to me
(DIR) Post #APRNfGSKhhYHWjQZPc by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2022-11-09T22:07:38.200178Z
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https://pkteerium.xyz/@cjd/posts/APKwBhmDAMiO1dF6Ku
(DIR) Post #APRP5tapuoO2OMfS40 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T22:23:11.766300Z
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Well then technically it was Laconica if we're picking nits.Had to draw the line somewhere and GNUSocial doesn't support AP only OStatus.
(DIR) Post #APRPUAfU5BLiIbPukq by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T22:27:40.160770Z
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I did just now.This atheist does not disagree with your metaphor.In fact I think it's quite astute.
(DIR) Post #APRRsbGt1Ww1fLgibw by thesarahdoughty@writing.exchange
2022-11-09T22:53:30Z
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@gme this is enlightening. Thank you for sharing.
(DIR) Post #APRUh7D6kUy16v8Tui by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2022-11-09T23:26:24.801703Z
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That was my first reaction - but now I'm starting to think Masto is going to successfully recruit the Blue Checks to push the bolder with them trying to convince the world that The Mastodon Network is a happy friendly little place and in no way a projection of Eris. Stock up on popcorn because this one's going to be good.
(DIR) Post #APRUrYLIj8xO9gwf0i by spfannenschmidt@mastodon.social
2022-11-09T23:12:39Z
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@elias @gme someone was telling me just wait, somebody is going to buy them
(DIR) Post #APRUrYxES7IY3Kgx8K by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T23:27:53.560034Z
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Buy what?
(DIR) Post #APRV3rYp6I8PEa8jWC by admin@mastodon.tech
2022-11-09T23:30:33.542355Z
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You are right sir ✅️
(DIR) Post #APRVMNFi0gxyjk1g6i by y3mz@mastodon.tech
2022-11-09T23:13:04.210857Z
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I've not had the pleasure of interacting with @lain but from the talks Lain gave it really cemented the fact that Pleroma and the general Fediverse was the right move to make for my communication and collaboration needs.It's a great space to be and one chock full of unique and interesting people (and friendly bots).
(DIR) Post #APRVMNckd1OjtCo51U by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T23:33:28.178414Z
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Apparently there was some drama this year on the Pleroma front and Pleroma itself was forked.Actually technically there are 2 forks going on. I completely forgot to mention the other one.Soapbox. Alex Gleason (gleasonator.com). I'm using his FE on my sites but I haven't switched to his BE.And Akkoma which was forked because of some drama with Alex and the project and the project developers. I had checked out while all that stuff was going on so I completely missed it.I don't know we'll see what happens.If there's one thing that is universal on the fediverse, as with anything in life it's that there's never a lack of drama.
(DIR) Post #APRVb9BSbBq5Rp5Deq by spfannenschmidt@mastodon.social
2022-11-09T23:29:56Z
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@gme he thought somebody could buy the whole fediverse
(DIR) Post #APRWoeXHRbf4P2IF3Q by y3mz@mastodon.tech
2022-11-09T23:50:12.070161Z
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Such is the novel of life. In some ways it keeps it interesting and colourful. I'm launching an instance myself on #Pleroma + #Soapbox + deployed on #NixOS. As soon as I can manage some time this weekend. We need more open registration instances for sure.
(DIR) Post #APRX1LvFxXSgRIZ0Bk by noyes@mastodon.online
2022-11-09T23:51:29Z
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@gme Which one did you use to make this big giant post?
(DIR) Post #APRX1MSDyxpi5XzKZk by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T23:52:05.741936Z
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bofh.social is a Pleroma instance with a Soapbox FE.
(DIR) Post #APRYkPYlNneWhn5liK by sonjalondon@med-mastodon.com
2022-11-10T00:10:42Z
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@gme thanks for the excellent overview. Are most / all on GitHub?
(DIR) Post #APRYkQ4JUUtEHdqxtI by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T00:11:24.735898Z
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Yes
(DIR) Post #APRcFXzUNzuph38CMi by ZeynepinLE@climatejustice.social
2022-11-10T00:49:24Z
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@gme wow, thank you, I wasn't aware of the richness of possibilities. What a shame I had no idea before.. I shall definitely share this info widely in my social circle.
(DIR) Post #APRfHylG7nMpA7KIgy by vito@botta.social
2022-11-09T23:50:29Z
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@gme @cjd @admin link?
(DIR) Post #APRm6YjjF7iywS71mK by Gargron@mastodon.tech
2022-11-10T02:41:30.496784Z
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(DIR) Post #APSYqZGgVxWXER06a0 by dragnucs@social.touha.me
2022-11-10T09:21:28Z
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@gmeAddition: the OG is status.net, which was merged to other projects to form GNU Social. Then Status.net instance changed software to pupm.io.
(DIR) Post #APSYqZqUMqAD1TkhO4 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T11:47:15.766765Z
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I wasn't writing a wikipedia page, and status.net (now GnuSocial) only supports ostatus. Point noted but for the perspective I was presenting Diaspora* was the genesis. Oh, and since we're being pedantic it's technically Laconica/ identi.ca not status.net.
(DIR) Post #APSZ7oZ4tYPxb2pOAC by steelman@mstdn.io
2022-11-10T10:03:27Z
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@gme Hi. It's great you show all these different services available on fediverse. I've been around.here for quite some time now and although I've know some of them others from your list are new to me. It's great they exist and it's awesome you write about them.Having said that, I believe at this moment newcomers from the birdsite won't grasp the entirety of fediverse. Now they are switching from one "microblogging" (/chat/social/etc.) site to another. Don't be mad at them.
(DIR) Post #APSZ7pNlr4y28GXsB6 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T11:50:23.183178Z
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I'm not mad at them. Goodness gracious. I'm pissed-off at Eugen Rochko for claiming that the fediverse is the "Mastodon Network".
(DIR) Post #APSZ8qecc0scMluigq by jonesy@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-10T10:28:33Z
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@gme fascinating, thank you. We’re all learning, all of the time :) I would most definitely like to look into #Bookwyrm
(DIR) Post #APSZ9HIZY6Hl0CnzZQ by Anji_Smith@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-10T10:34:54Z
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@gme Thank you for this post, very educational!
(DIR) Post #APSZDdFNt2AGEVOG5Q by dragnucs@social.touha.me
2022-11-10T11:51:30Z
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@gme Hey, I am just trying to help by adding historical information. :D
(DIR) Post #APSZKgfNZXcErfugm8 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T11:52:43.205664Z
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And I appreciate it.I wasn't writing a historical wikipedia page of the federation.I was writing an overview.
(DIR) Post #APSc6uZvLnvtovU6ka by keithfrankish@fediscience.org
2022-11-10T12:20:01Z
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@gme Thanks. I'm new to this world, so this is very helpful to me.
(DIR) Post #APSnPJDjZNYexG53Z2 by skeleton@mastodon.world
2022-11-10T14:23:50Z
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@gme appreciate all the work putting this together.
(DIR) Post #APSsj4GpMZ5s9NliMa by realBarryFrench@masto.ai
2022-11-10T15:29:33Z
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@gme Thank you, I feel well and truly educated now 😉
(DIR) Post #APStHhDt2pS2nzuBMG by dltq@oslo.town
2022-11-10T15:34:55Z
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@gme Very, very useful! Thank you very much! Best regards from Oslo, Norway. (New user myself, 6 days old)
(DIR) Post #APSuzUVNn3go3dXGkK by nomdeb@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T15:46:23Z
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@gme Oh my goodness I was a member of diaspora. I remember that well - and I still get birthday reminders. I loved their idea.
(DIR) Post #APSv0JMGihhbm8fD7Y by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T15:55:32.522667Z
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Same here. ;-)
(DIR) Post #APSvBH9LGtPG6xqUNc by MarkusEicher@fosstodon.org
2022-11-10T15:49:34Z
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@gme Hi there. Thanks for this post. 🤛 Very interesting. How can I access the linked site with my Fosstodon account? I receive a 401. Do I need to have a separate account? Thanks for your support.
(DIR) Post #APSvBHdpRXnDdW6pto by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T15:57:31.383873Z
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I'm sorry I'm not sure what you're referring to?All of the links I posted are public links.An HTTP/401 response means the request is unauthorized/ unauthenticated. Maybe the site/ server is having some temporary issues?Or was there a specific item you were referring to.
(DIR) Post #APSvK6X07ULhmk7bhQ by nomdeb@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T15:58:18Z
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@gme My recollection was it was at a time I was SO PISSED at Google for their nym wars debacle of Google Plus or whatever it was. Maybe I'm a bit fuzzy about that though. It was definitely in the anti-facebook era after I had dumped them as I was so tired of playing whack-a-mole with their privacy "opt out" options. OPT OUT ≠ privacy.
(DIR) Post #APSvK72uCrrzNh35Qe by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T15:59:07.033276Z
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Google+ was launched in June, 2011 I wouldn't doubt in response to the fanfare that Diaspora* achieved at the time.
(DIR) Post #APSxJVoEqpEBno1uIC by medievalist@writing.exchange
2022-11-10T16:02:33Z
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@gme I am very much liking #Bookwyrm, and have just started figuring out #WriteFreely.
(DIR) Post #APT0zUaU5Fzm2PJ0me by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-10T17:02:33.680296Z
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@gme @xavavu I'm not sure if it got in mainline GnuSocial, but it got ActivityPub support about 2 years ago (as Pleroma dropped OStatus support afterwards) into this repo: https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social
(DIR) Post #APT1Iw0iLjy0ahqTSq by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T17:06:09.015727Z
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Thanks. I'll make the correction.
(DIR) Post #APT1PojRoEs42o3DKi by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-10T17:07:21.087196Z
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@gme @xavavu Also I think Pleroma took much more after GnuSocial than Mastodon, for example the frontend was built on top of GnuSocial and kept compatibility with GnuSocial for a while.Meaning the first client API we got was the Qvitter API.
(DIR) Post #APTJAJQphOeBnd6Hei by jaanus@mastodon.social
2022-11-10T19:52:02Z
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@gme I have a dumb technical question. I thought Mastodon has 500 character limit. How come your post can go above that?(And the info itself is valuable too. Thank you for sharing. Didn’t know about most of those)
(DIR) Post #APTJAK5xEVXZrAL7ke by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-10T20:26:16.029125Z
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Because I'm not using Mastodon. That's kind of the whole point of my post. :-) (And that 500 limit is the default in Mastodon. Instance admins are free to raise it as they see fit. For comparison, I access the fediverse using Pleroma. It's default is 5000 characters.)
(DIR) Post #APTOmFTXMAW0IuH2oa by the4ts@mastodonapp.uk
2022-11-10T21:19:34Z
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@gme Thank you enormously for this!
(DIR) Post #APTQc5G6gdVpd8GymG by uchennangwe@mas.to
2022-11-10T21:49:09Z
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@gme This is so interesting. Thanks for posting! I'd heard of a couple of these but had no idea how they were all connected.Like many others, I'll be watching to see what happens next
(DIR) Post #APTgJQbch2r3bLSm4u by b_chocolatey@qoto.org
2022-11-11T00:39:48Z
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@gme i didn’t have a Wordpress site back in the day, but I noticed that there were “ping backs” where the comment section of one site cached and previewed a small portion of the comments on a completely different site. Apparently the two webmasters had scripts to crawl each other’s sites. Is that still a thing ?
(DIR) Post #APTgJR9eeW4pItNx7g by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-11T00:45:37.223520Z
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@b_chocolatey most wp site owners have ping backs turned off since they're primarily used to inject spam.But wp ping backs is not the same as federating.That being said there are ActivityPub plugins for WordPress to bring any blog into the federation today.
(DIR) Post #APTkWAAdVgp2D3AUPw by phillycodehound@masto.ai
2022-11-11T00:53:04Z
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@gme thanks for the rundown.
(DIR) Post #APTkWIMz1fS5df0Sm0 by cherrymayo@masto.ai
2022-11-11T00:51:25Z
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@gme thank you. That was a very helpful overview of a lot of creative and inspired platforms.
(DIR) Post #APTkWokUdnGu3qFgrQ by phillycodehound@masto.ai
2022-11-11T00:45:42Z
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@gme You are correct. Mastodon is just part of the fediverse!
(DIR) Post #APTmcWGQTpdWNQ2EVM by s@masto.ai
2022-11-11T01:54:19Z
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@gme good to know, thanks for sharing 👍
(DIR) Post #APTpN6FNECrvCmsjBI by MarkusEicher@fosstodon.org
2022-11-10T16:06:10Z
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@gme Please have a look at the attached screenshot. It's not urgent and it can be a temporary server situation. Will try the link at a later time.
(DIR) Post #APTpN6hNY5Gobdz5pg by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-11T02:27:08.352941Z
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This should now be fixed. Thanks for letting me know!
(DIR) Post #APTqSwPOos1INrv7kO by MarkusEicher@fosstodon.org
2022-11-11T02:36:05Z
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@gme Hi George. Thank you for letting me know. I just was over there and that looks interesting. It's a pleora instance, right? Could I use it with my @MarkusEicher account?
(DIR) Post #APTqSwiteNcFML2h8a by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-11T02:39:24.252556Z
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Sure can. Pleroma and Mastodon speak the same language and are connected to the same Fediverse. ;-)
(DIR) Post #APUlHitMQeZgfFj4dM by olijaun@indieweb.social
2022-11-11T07:27:41Z
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@gme Very interesting post. But shouldn‘t we mention Email (SMTP) here? Or what is your definition?
(DIR) Post #APUlHjUaCGLgWh8neS by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-11T13:16:02.658862Z
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I appreciate the feedback. I didn't write that for an audience who knows what SMTP stands for. ;-)
(DIR) Post #APUlJ5gBBvXJczDFOC by dhwrtr@writing.exchange
2022-11-11T05:31:33Z
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@gme That's more info than I can take it all at one time but I *love* that you covered all of that history in one place. Also, I'm one of the newbies who needs to know this. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #APUlNoAPjHDqlJbW3U by eyesofthewatcher@noc.social
2022-11-11T03:42:59Z
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@gmeAs someone new to the fediverse, mastodon after dumping FB, IG, and mostly Twitter; this post is a good resource.Tyvm!
(DIR) Post #APUlZ6kQzBxlZjqANs by rmacd@chiasm.app
2022-11-11T13:13:41Z
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@gme thanks for the list - communities here I'd never heard of. Respectfully, however, conflating fediverse and mastodon is not "gaslighting", it's harmless ignorance at the very worst. Education over castigation wins. Gaslighting - an egregious psychological harm caused to others - is not a term that should be diluted...
(DIR) Post #APVHRPHhNfklHXlsf2 by smhoekstra@mastodon.nl
2022-11-11T19:16:09Z
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@gmeThanks for your explanation of the broader #fediverse.I’m a 5 day newbie on Mastodon and experienced it as an introduction into the #fediverse.Maybe a friendlier explanation for newbies would be that Mastodon isn’t the whole #fediverse, but only a first step into to the broader #fediverse where your Mastodon identity could be used to boost, comment and reply on the other #fediverse applications that are now all integrated instead of isolated seperate applications :)
(DIR) Post #APVHSHnShnFMLh30fQ by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-11T19:16:31.039575Z
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thank you for the feedback
(DIR) Post #APVMjm83gS0H7Gq9fk by smhoekstra@mastodon.nl
2022-11-11T19:23:13Z
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@gmeFor now I’m exploring PeerTube videos and boosting, liking and replying to those videos from my Mastodon account directly.And I now get updates in MetaText (the Mastodon app I use) when a new video is published on the PeerTube accounts that I follow.This puts Twitter an YouTube in the shadow in 5 days for me 🙏
(DIR) Post #APW06Ea2Tmx1wJd06K by mattk@hostux.social
2022-11-12T03:31:41Z
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@gme this post is a history of me trying to leave commercial spaces for communities. I still have my diaspora shirt!
(DIR) Post #APWg5p2Pdpm6nQNyJk by natalie@hcommons.social
2022-11-12T09:32:48Z
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@gme A beginner question: I clicked on the link bofh.social in your post and it seems that I can not favorite there without creating a new account. What is the reason for this? I had understood that with my current account I can talk to all other accounts in the #fediverse, no matter what platform. Actually, also all the ones you listed here. Perhaps this is not (automatically) so?[But I can communicate with you. And you're on bofh.social. Hm.]Also: I am guilty (and sorry), I equated Mastodon and Fediverse when I dramatically announced my move to hcommons.social. Can I link to your post on Twitter to correct that statement?
(DIR) Post #APWgM91L78EHP9fP96 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T11:30:13.229703Z
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@natalie the post is cc-by-sa. Link away. 🤓As for favoriting, you would need to favorite the post from your own server, not mine.All the best.
(DIR) Post #APWkyCvZR62GLJNEWm by markpoole@tech.lgbt
2022-11-12T06:35:28Z
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@gme This is is really useful background for us n00bs coming across from mainstream social media. Thanks!
(DIR) Post #APXOFAwrwZcNL93yAC by WanderingTaoist@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T19:14:17Z
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@gme Thanks for the great info! I've been bumping around the #fediverse since #Diaspora, and I hope the Great Twitter Migration sparks an interest in its other services.Interestingly, what drove me off of Diaspora is the same thing that drove me off FB and Twitter. A flood of right wing hate speech, spewing out like a sewer with no end.
(DIR) Post #APXOHNOucKrIXVEHku by jonah@mstdn.party
2022-11-12T19:04:35Z
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@gme TIL Misskey pre-dates Mastodon. I've used most of these but I think this is very informative for newcomers. Cool list, thanks for sharing!
(DIR) Post #APXOHreY8lC0MgmCIK by erinfulmer@wandering.shop
2022-11-12T19:09:58Z
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@gme thanks for this history! I remember Diaspora (still have an account there, maybe/probably) and had no idea it was connected with the Fediverse!
(DIR) Post #APXR9OxbEdb6vDLKds by haikushack@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T20:08:32Z
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@gme Thank you for sharing this information! It helps me see the differences between platforms. So much choice, which is great!
(DIR) Post #APXRC0iznaAocpkxN2 by originalspin@mas.to
2022-11-12T20:05:47Z
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@gme what does it actually mean that these other platforms “federate” with one another, in practice? Like, is there any way of getting posts from those platforms on this feed for example?Just curious because the term “federated” seems to be used as generously as “decentralized” in the blockchain world (where many decentralized things are not, in fact, decentralized)
(DIR) Post #APXRC1Ae8mI80ah2TA by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T20:15:01.967957Z
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THey all speak the same language so content created on one platform can be viewed and interacted with on another.
(DIR) Post #APXZnFup58ty5QYjK4 by Guerin@bdx.town
2022-11-12T21:50:55.945161Z
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@gme don't forget #Plume → https://joinplu.me another blogging plateforme ! And keep an eye on @Goldfish , a federated tiktok/vine alternative
(DIR) Post #APXZnGUGxLG3rN92Zs by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T21:51:23.337624Z
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Plume is no longer being developed though the project page suggests using WriteFreely.
(DIR) Post #APXZnIW7PRvI9g1XjU by Guerin@bdx.town
2022-11-12T21:51:44.539456Z
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@gme anyway great post, clear and complete ! Well done
(DIR) Post #APXa8KbWqP44i4aHCq by TruGrytz@mstdn.party
2022-11-12T21:54:43Z
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@gme Let's not forget #Matrix
(DIR) Post #APXa8KzHQ63ztjhFE8 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T21:55:13.110831Z
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And does it support ActivityPub?
(DIR) Post #APXaEu5NpzmIUWgMkK by Guerin@bdx.town
2022-11-12T21:55:40.573621Z
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@gme oh, you're right... too bad, i felt the UX was less confusing but i don't really use any of them anymore 😟
(DIR) Post #APXaEuol7I4elFubTM by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T21:56:23.242110Z
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I did try to do some research. 😂
(DIR) Post #APXacocFpGeMTdSXjc by Guerin@bdx.town
2022-11-12T22:00:15.401478Z
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@gme i should have assumed you did since you basically talked about EVERY fedi project... sorry i stormed here all confident stating you missed ONE of them 😔
(DIR) Post #APXai3rkYR9dDoD0Vc by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T22:01:41.512621Z
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(DIR) Post #APXdnmzCWfA6TC7Ix6 by MrLee@aus.social
2022-11-12T22:21:27Z
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@gme @spfannenschmidt Is there not some risk of Google hijacking the concept. Building a dominant presence and then forking the whole project? A bit like Android.
(DIR) Post #APXdnnnXVVQazJfVPk by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-12T22:36:18.707040Z
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Google already tried a social network and failed miserably. It was called Google+.
(DIR) Post #APXhXzLzAxEs0hUm8G by LittleMxSurly@yharnam.singles
2022-11-12T23:01:19Z
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@gme thank you for this - it’s very helpful!
(DIR) Post #APXha2tMzUP7Z15jIe by jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
2022-11-12T22:55:08Z
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@gme 🇺🇸🇺🇦🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏴☠️📎 A few additions:#Friendica came before #Diaspora. AFAIK, when the call for the fundraiser for Diaspora* went out in 2010, Friendica (which was still named Mistpark back then) already had a 1.x stable release out.#GNUsocial predated Friendica, and #StatusNet predated GNU social.#Hubzilla is more than an improved Friendica, it's a "federated social content management system" or, as I like to call it, a "federated social Swiss Army knife". For one, it features a new federation protocol named #Zot that allows for something known as #NomadicIdentity (not only can you move your channel from one hub to another more easily than ever, but you can mirror it across multiple hubs), and additional protocols (#ActivityPub the Diaspora* protocol etc.) can be activated optionally per channel.Other features include multiple separate channels per account (only the hub admin could possibly tell which channels are on the same account), each still with multiple profiles like on Friendica, a file server with #WebDAV support and optional apps for features such as a second, private calendar with #CalDAV support, an addressbook with #CardDAV support, a picture gallery, articles, websites (I'm not kidding), a wiki engine (I'm still not kidding) etc. as well as cross-posters for #WordPress and the #birdsite.But even Hubzilla had successors, especially for the purpose of advancing Zot. They all have in common that they're dramatically slimmed down from Hubzilla by removing stuff that hardly anyone needs from websites, wikis, contacts and two parallel calendar systems to the Twitter and even Diaspora* connectors.#RedMatrix (post-Hubzilla; it actually started out as a kind of proto-Hubzilla and was repurposed after Hubzilla's official release), #Osada, #Zap, #Misty, they're all quite similar down to the codebase. All of them have supported ActivityPub at some point or still do. Essentially, they're all various levels of stability/maturity of the same project, and all four will reach their end of support at the end of this year. The same may happen to short-lived #Roadhouse which was the fifth of the bunch and the first on which Zot was renamed #Nomad but doing largely the same.The post-Hubzilla project that's here to stay is referred to as #Streams (see the Codeberg repository. While largely having the same feature set as Zap & Co. including optional ActivityPub support, it's a strange brew. It isn't supposed to be a self-contained project like Mastodon or Hubzilla, more like raw material from which everyone can build their own project. Thus, Streams isn't the name of a project, only the name of the repository and the basic idea. Also, the whole thing is in the public domain while parts are under different free licenses. The readme can be quite weird to read.Still, vanilla Streams makes for a good successor to Zap & Co., also since all five can be upgraded to the Streams repository, and a lightweight nomadic alternative to Hubzilla.
(DIR) Post #APXhbdx0h18kmyYXDc by Androo@mastodon.scot
2022-11-12T22:44:08Z
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@gme what a fantastic post! Thank you.
(DIR) Post #APXhu1FUoFhWG8xsfI by kristinHenry@vis.social
2022-11-12T23:22:20Z
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@gme thank you for taking the time to share that! So much to learn.
(DIR) Post #APXkAx7patXKIka8rA by estellesmith@hci.social
2022-11-12T23:35:16Z
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@gme Thanks for this interesting history! I haven’t seen any posts *equating* mastodon + the fediverse… I’m still learning the ropes here, and I definitely learned about fediverse via mastodon, recently, along with many newb bird migrants. Really appreciate you taking the time to put this history in words.
(DIR) Post #APXnZM1qxEriLp748e by cobordism@berlin.social
2022-11-13T00:01:47Z
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@gmeI remember trying the very first versions of diaspora and hosting a friendica instance, trying to convince friends and family to switch over. (very hard to do)Right now, I know there are many awesome federated projects (and real p2p platforms too), but the exciting part about this moment for me is seeing so many people make a switch. THAT is the really hard part. Not for Mastadon, but for all of us.I am certain(!) that people will discover more in the coming months all on their own.
(DIR) Post #APYin7jAcNUZRC53Oi by andreatitolo@archaeo.social
2022-11-13T08:18:29Z
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@natalie About the first thing, it’s the way the link opens and how the federation works. The link opens in a new tab so it’s like you are on a different server, and not with your account anymore (thus it asks you to log in to interact). However note how you can click on a profile from that link and remote follow with your username@instance.@gme
(DIR) Post #APYin8IcUZqfD8fMeW by andreatitolo@archaeo.social
2022-11-13T08:18:56Z
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@natalie Differently, if I link this same post here https://bofh.social/objects/f38dc78c-b740-40c1-bbd0-b6cf5a848d57 or put this into the search box, it will open “from my server” and I can interact the way I prefer. So it is true that you can interact with everyone, but you either need to search for users or they have to appear within your timeline for it (the federated timeline is a bit messy but a good way to explore this) :)@gme
(DIR) Post #APYin8n6fEEcjgviAi by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T11:06:55.344897Z
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Linking to a post on a remote server (like you've done) embeds it into your post (like you've seen) using oEmbed. Works the same for linking to any remote server. But it creates an entirely new post (on your server).But if you see the post on your feed (from my server) then you are free to interact with it however way your server supports.
(DIR) Post #APYiznLFitO5ycw3F2 by dawnatella@sfba.social
2022-11-13T06:00:16Z
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@gme so where’s the federated alternative to Amazon/Etsy? I want to see one that operates as a #Coop
(DIR) Post #APYizntdf2tRhH1Vq4 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T11:09:14.245603Z
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Somebody has to create it but I'm not sure how feasible that would be. Doable for sure! But imagine how noisy our timelines would be if Twitter suddenly started to embed Ebay and Etsy feeds into our timeline. Oy vey!
(DIR) Post #APYj1YwaE10xtyEu3s by dawnatella@sfba.social
2022-11-13T05:53:55Z
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@gme omg, this is awesome! You don’t know if no one tells you! How else are we supposed to understand all this instantly. It feels a little like the MCU over here, complete w epic battles and multiple timelines. Is there a diagram of this?And btw, am I noting that you can make your posts as long as you want and you can edit your posts, because you admin your own instance? Totally unfair.
(DIR) Post #APYj4ZHxOqd5q7fbCS by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T11:10:06.619387Z
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To be fair other instance owners can do the same but 500 characters is not long enough. Pleroma defaults to 5000.
(DIR) Post #APYjCg99mlSpQUQAoi by IhsanDogramaci@mastouille.fr
2022-11-13T04:55:16Z
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@gme This is super duper interesting, and, having great expectations of myself, I aspire to learn enough to be able to understand what you’ve described. That said, I’m probably not going to learn that much any time soon. So what do you recommend to people like me? Is there something simple about which you encourage getting up to speed very quickly?
(DIR) Post #APYjCgflpVYH3dgDeS by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T11:11:32.320512Z
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Just "keep on keeping on" as my late father would say.Knowing there are alternatives and knowing what to look for is half the battle.If what you have works for you I see no reason to switch.
(DIR) Post #APYjFwnCLxWBvAi0H2 by dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org
2022-11-13T10:25:39Z
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@dawnatella @gme Limiting the size of posts to a maximum of 500 characters is an arbitrary decision of Mastodon. There is no such limit in the ActivityPub protocol, and many other projects among those listed above do not have such a limitation.Admins of Mastodon instances can choose to raise the limit, if they’re willing to dig into the code to change it – I believe it is hardcoded, as developers have rejected proposals to make it configurable.
(DIR) Post #APYjFxfn4zBeeUFbMm by dawnatella@sfba.social
2022-11-13T10:44:03Z
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@dgouttegattat @gme To clarify, I did kindof mean it as a joke to say that it's unfair. I think it's a cool perk of having your own instance that you can set some of your own rules. But I also get that if the digital load coming into other servers is too heavy that could be bad for the system. I am just grateful we have more characters here than twitter! wish I were more concise....
(DIR) Post #APYv5BoTMjfUlrwRKS by dcangah@sfba.social
2022-11-13T13:22:10Z
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@gme good to know! I'm new here and did get the impression that Mastodon was the Fediverse.
(DIR) Post #APYwjz5rf3Iz9K5ojQ by JustRosy@postpandemicparty.org
2022-11-13T13:41:22Z
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@gme Thank you for this post! I was kind of starting to figure this out on my own, but thank you for clarifying that I was headed in the right direction, in how to think about all of this!
(DIR) Post #APZ5yt6N7V4cUtVlw0 by fogsrollingin@fandom.ink
2022-11-13T15:26:35Z
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@gme this is fascinating I want to explore literally everything on your list damnit
(DIR) Post #APZ65T9fzI8w3ICAjI by PhoebeBird@mstdn.social
2022-11-13T15:13:31Z
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@gme So,in a nutshell, Mastodon is a galaxy and the Fediverse is the universe? (Brand new user here attempting to understand my new environment).
(DIR) Post #APZ65Tc2HqpPTFSovw by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T15:27:58.199339Z
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The fediverse is the network. Mastodon is a portal to that network.
(DIR) Post #APZci43sPpaG3KvjDE by katramdeen@mas.to
2022-11-13T21:28:57Z
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@gme someone pls tell me it’s also a #StarTrek reference
(DIR) Post #APZci4buNIo1ksquG0 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T21:33:15.319754Z
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Not sure if it was intentional but the analogy certainly fits.
(DIR) Post #APZgrqfjS45bErYd4i by katramdeen@mas.to
2022-11-13T21:38:24Z
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@gme may we all Live Long and Prosper🖖
(DIR) Post #APZkfDB8rRWd5sTkuW by Inekeduzz@mastodon.social
2022-11-13T22:47:43Z
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@gme OMG an entire instance of bastard operators exist? Reminds me of the nineties. 😅
(DIR) Post #APZlnqyUsrvin2FVIW by originalspin@mas.to
2022-11-12T21:09:46Z
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@gme hmm, not sure what that means in practice. I don’t even know if I’ve seen any Pleroma content on here for example, but then again how could I tell it I did?
(DIR) Post #APZlnrPRGhTs8ar1I8 by Hordearius@indieweb.social
2022-11-13T23:14:30Z
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@originalspin @gme AFAICT it's all cosmetic. Pleroma, Mastodon et al all behave the same and just look different.
(DIR) Post #APZlns0f2JFs02GkJE by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T23:15:20.784427Z
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Unfortunately that's not true. They are each fundamentally different from eachother.
(DIR) Post #APZm5MY8k683dmGmzQ by Hordearius@indieweb.social
2022-11-13T23:16:50Z
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@gme @originalspin Is there a guide somewhere?
(DIR) Post #APZm5Mz57vgCzKsIz2 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-13T23:18:32.408994Z
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I link to fediverse.party in my original post. That has probably the best overall overview.
(DIR) Post #APatSlbKf4QmplpVtw by ajeremias@social.coletivos.org
2022-11-14T08:45:52Z
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@gme gancio ^^ a event management amazing tool https://gancio.org/instances
(DIR) Post #APatT7QRWEnCWMu7yy by maurice_@akademienl.social
2022-11-14T03:49:05Z
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@gme excited to see the fediverse is so much more than Mastodon, but also is about federated podcasts, videos, streaming services. Is there an equivalent for scientific publishing services as well?
(DIR) Post #APbMzk8k0okiWsX7VA by sander@snabelen.no
2022-11-14T16:55:02Z
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@gme I used to be a GNU Social (StatusNet) user until the people at sdf.org changed to Mastodon. I believe that and Diaspora was my first federated networks. :)
(DIR) Post #APbN1AhAlWaBB9JrO4 by jperlow@mastodon.social
2022-11-14T16:19:29Z
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@gme Some of us are mentioning the Fediverse correctly in context. https://www.zdnet.com/article/mastodon-isnt-twitter-but-its-glorious/
(DIR) Post #APbN1MsbSqr8y4l9s0 by ezaquarii@techhub.social
2022-11-14T16:34:37Z
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@gme this is a very nice list. I wasn't even aware of all those projects.
(DIR) Post #APbVw5UNauWHAfzCLI by xigoi@nasface.cz
2022-11-14T19:13:14Z
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@gme Is there any Fediverse software that introduces new design instead of being modelled after an existing proprietary social network?
(DIR) Post #APbVw6ESpZNnTbY0Aq by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-14T19:26:57.216823Z
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I'm sure you'll find most fedi software introduces novel designs and features and are only modeled after proprietary social networks in overall concept only.
(DIR) Post #APbWn0ZoaZNdHelMpc by xigoi@nasface.cz
2022-11-14T19:32:40Z
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@gme That's what I meant; I feel like there's a lot of room to explore completely new overall concepts.
(DIR) Post #APbazLTt5mL3PR831c by mnw@tilde.zone
2022-11-14T20:23:25Z
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@gme Thanks for compiling this list. I was also feeling this way, but wasn't sure how to express it.
(DIR) Post #APbhBI2KK9o5vUJfWq by kinetix@mycrowd.ca
2022-11-14T21:05:56.891378Z
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@gme Thankyouforthis!That's awesome.
(DIR) Post #APcsEuAiHuLtiu7pPU by maco@wandering.shop
2022-11-15T06:13:08Z
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@gme just gonna tag #elixir folks: Pleroma and thus Akkoma are written in our language of choice
(DIR) Post #APcsG2sPPQth0h6iEi by xavavu@sns.ekoms.top
2022-11-09T22:14:56Z
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Hmmm, I thought StatusNet/GNUSocial was the OG.Either way, I echo the sentiment of this post.
(DIR) Post #APcsG3Tz9ixGtEgio4 by maco@wandering.shop
2022-11-15T06:11:58Z
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@xavavu @gme yes! StatusNet/Identi.ca *invented* retweeting!
(DIR) Post #APcsIyz6KuOLo9dcw4 by deewritespoems@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-11-15T04:33:16Z
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@gme newbie question: once I have set up accounts across lots of different apps and instances, is there an easy way to keep track of them all? Like a personal control app or page?
(DIR) Post #APcsIzViNeTnRItflo by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-15T11:12:21.395214Z
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@deewritespoems look up keepassxc or bitwarden
(DIR) Post #APcsNgGXMMFJCV2A0u by deewritespoems@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-11-15T00:10:15Z
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@gme thanks for the list. I had no idea all this existed. I am going to have a happy (southern) summer exploring it.
(DIR) Post #APcsOjB811XcWY0G6i by Annbass@mastodon.social
2022-11-14T23:57:40Z
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@gme Fabulous explanation and overview. Thanks so much for making the effort.
(DIR) Post #APcsPPllfBnycLT732 by vegos_f05@f.freinetz.ch
2022-11-14T22:02:38Z
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@gme @dragnucs GNUsocial supports ActivityPub protocol too! https://fediverse.party/en/gnusocial/
(DIR) Post #APcsPQLvUkjEQUNzPM by dragnucs@social.touha.me
2022-11-14T23:40:03Z
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@vegos_f05 @gme Yes. it did catch up ans support ActivityPub.