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 (DIR) Post #APSbIGYxqxQrEet0JU by maddiefuzz@hackers.town
       2022-11-10T11:21:16Z
       
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       For anyone who needs to hear it: photography is not an objective view of reality. A photo of you is biased by the lens and many other factors.if a photo causes you to feel dysphoria, it does *not* mean that that’s how you are perceived in an everyday environment.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSbIH362vXEk6z4HQ by republic2809@hackers.town
       2022-11-10T11:52:09Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz I remember hearing something about how front-facing smartphone cameras apparently requiring quite a good bit of distance from the user (certainly longer than arm's reach) if one is hoping to correct for the distortion owing to the size of the lens(?), which I think about a lot.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSbIHa44LuGOMPOfQ by Polychrome@poly.cybre.city
       2022-11-10T12:15:04.255585Z
       
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       @republic2809 @maddiefuzz I usually find myself trekking a good bit backwards when trying to take a smartphone photo, it didn't seem to take as much walking with actual cameras.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSbXcpXLWLmdjxgJc by maddiefuzz@hackers.town
       2022-11-10T12:15:01Z
       
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       I’m reposting this publicly, so that anyone who needs to hear it, sees this post.Even if you only compare focal length, which is a characteristic of the lens, you will get very different results.Photography is not an objective view of reality.Smart phone focal lengths are generally unkind.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSbZzAVGRs8V2tUGW by Polychrome@poly.cybre.city
       2022-11-10T12:18:17.205063Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz :meowheart:
       
 (DIR) Post #APSnBEchrhoQdu3Amm by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2022-11-10T14:28:07.318804Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz True.Aperture also has an impact, though not as much as focal length.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSovA5n8vkjri7NZ2 by feld@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T14:47:23.612709Z
       
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       @tk @maddiefuzz 50mm is gold standard portrait focal length, right? people should get more photos taken of themselves with a 50mm
       
 (DIR) Post #APSpCyV8ye0f82TDM0 by void@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T14:50:03.705304Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz 50mm & 85mm yeah. i really love my 50mm, not only for potraits
       
 (DIR) Post #APSpniEwOob3PSPRMe by feld@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T14:57:13.181203Z
       
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       @void @maddiefuzz @tk I have a Sigma Art 35mm f1.4 on my A6400 which is APS-C and so it behaves like a native ~50mm and takes fantastic photos
       
 (DIR) Post #APSqDzCnwboLYYwEhE by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-10T15:02:21.151Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz@hackers.town 43mm is how the human eye perceives the world, for reference. Somewhere in-between 35mm and 50mm.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSqc339IqbkQftamu by void@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T15:00:25.176488Z
       
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       @feld @maddiefuzz @tk Not surprised at all. Before getting my 50mm I was rolling 16-35mm & 24-120, added a 35-70mm a bit later (which I also love a lot, it's an old Nikkor from the 80s), but I almost never use them now, I just roll with the 50mm. Works for almost any situation.I used the 16-35 back a couple of weeks ago to visit a museum tho, there the 50mm would have been bad.Plus, fixed focal lenght gives us bigger stops, which is always cool <3 that sweet blur at f1.4 <3
       
 (DIR) Post #APT7LwUjbaiugchkAK by onebiskuit@mstdn.social
       2022-11-10T18:11:43Z
       
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       @tk @maddiefuzz @feld for a 35mm camera yes. For a 6x6 like the Hasselblad, nearer 85mm. Not sure how it works with digitals.
       
 (DIR) Post #APT8D1I6VH4guT6csq by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2022-11-10T18:23:55.122899Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz Weird. All I can see is a dude in a dress regardless of focal length.
       
 (DIR) Post #APT9O4x9KPxZPI8r8y by revjorobertson@writing.exchange
       2022-11-10T18:23:42Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz 85mm is gold standard, 50 is considered "normal" for most photography but not great for portraits.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTABx0b8hvlFNXGnQ by kaffiene@mastodon.nz
       2022-11-10T18:41:41Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz when I worked as a photographer I recall 50mm being considered the best "neutral" focal length with longer lenses 85-300 being better for portraiture.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTADJNBTVuOtkkUfA by kaffiene@mastodon.nz
       2022-11-10T18:43:46Z
       
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       @feld @tk @void @maddiefuzz I had a sigma 35mm lens for standard film size which was my favourite lens. Brilliant for landscapes. Rubbish for portraits, as this post illustrates =)
       
 (DIR) Post #APTCSYhYxumsgvgAUK by feld@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T19:10:55.690084Z
       
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       @revjorobertson @tk @maddiefuzz 85mm if your goal is to have your subject in focus but the background blurred out I guess, yeah, I would agree.I'm not a huge fan of that style of photography though
       
 (DIR) Post #APTCYsjDQ51qXZT1UG by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2022-11-10T19:12:16.465588Z
       
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       @feld @maddiefuzz @revjorobertson But what if you have 85mm with a very narrow aperture?
       
 (DIR) Post #APTChGF3sdspmdMHgG by feld@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T19:13:48.226909Z
       
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       @tk @maddiefuzz @revjorobertson well you're gonna get a result that doesn't look as real as the human eye which is closer to 50mm anywayi guess are you trying to go artsy or realistic
       
 (DIR) Post #APTDWwbA9xK5v0LAxM by void@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T19:21:16.528793Z
       
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       @feld @revjorobertson @maddiefuzz @tk that focus/blur thing will always happen at big apertures regardless of focal lenght (>35mm)
       
 (DIR) Post #APTHhrBh16MS8gt0TI by neilcar@infosec.exchange
       2022-11-10T20:07:54Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz 50mm is something I would, typically, use for environmental portraits...which is very different from portraiture.  The way to think of this is that, at least in terms of what Madeline is illustrating with that great illustration of the impact of focal length, is that your distance to the subject is an important piece of how somebody appears in the picture.  The closer you get to the person, the larger the ratio between the distance from the camera to the tip of their nose and the distance from the camera to their eyes; in other words, the closer the camera is to the person, the more exaggerated their nose will appear.  The farther away you are, the smaller their nose will appear.  If you're standing, say, 10' away from the subject(s), it doesn't matter if you're shooting an environmental/group portrait with a 50mm lens or a 135mm lens to get a tighter portrait, their facial features are going to have about the same ratio.Because selfies are normally shot very close, they emphasis facial features in a way that's not flattering.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTKoUPoNiybOyLQ5A by void@bikeshed.party
       2022-11-10T18:52:48.867227Z
       
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       @revjorobertson @feld @tk @maddiefuzz Is it really nowadays ? Given the quality of sensors you can easily crop to get closer ? (noob photographer, but very happy of my 50mm for portraits-- however, I realize I frequently crop them)
       
 (DIR) Post #APTKoUq2oBxaiKcMyG by revjorobertson@writing.exchange
       2022-11-10T20:34:51Z
       
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       @void @tk @feld @maddiefuzz Not about the crop (I could always move closer to my subject). It's about distortion. Different shaped glass (35mm vs 50mm vs 85 or 100mm) simply bend the light differently. It tends to be most noticeable with people (because things closer like the end of the nose get exagerated at small mms) or architecture because the bending of light (and therefore lines in walls/etc) are more obvious. At lot can be fixe din post, not all.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTKpjESmIePe4cwaG by revjorobertson@writing.exchange
       2022-11-10T20:35:57Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz I'm a macro fan so 90mm macro and blurry background is my JAM. But it is less about the blurry background than about how features are distorted or not and what looks *most pleasing* to folks. 🤷‍♀️  Preferences vary, rules of thumb are meant to be broken. ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #APTMC3syllRi1fn7Z2 by dracoMetallium@pleroma.soykaf.com
       2022-11-10T21:00:34.456006Z
       
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       @Ricotta @maddiefuzz You are so deep into TERF ideology that you see a dick into every woman. She is a biological female:https://web.archive.org/web/20161231001008/http://blog.stanleyleary.com/2015/01/nikon-d750-best-portrait-lens.html
       
 (DIR) Post #APTPuCaw3CP1dm5gyO by Barnard@mstdn.social
       2022-11-10T21:37:11Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz I'd phones love phones to be 50mm by default. I loved my old nifty-fifty on my Canon. You actually had to move to compose a photo. I suppose having the shorter focal length  stops people falling into canyons, train tracks and various types of holes but can be very unkind.
       
 (DIR) Post #APUCWIoSAyTbjHeBeq by Ricotta@yggdrasil.social
       2022-11-11T06:46:55.614260Z
       
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       @dracoMetallium @maddiefuzz Oh, so just so ugly that the world as a whole would be a better place if "she" had a gasoline filled tire shoved around "her" neck and set on fire?
       
 (DIR) Post #APVZdftdF6LnS7VuYi by dracoMetallium@pleroma.soykaf.com
       2022-11-11T22:40:38.917281Z
       
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       @Ricotta Nah, it just that you have poisoned your brain.If your bio is to be trusted, you are still a child, so: please, leave that community that has  taught you that any ugly woman must be a secret man. Not only because some moral argument (I don't think we would agree on most of what is moral), but at least on self preservation. Are you sure you will never deviate from their norm?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWxdgEAbS0UXPcE8O by JCardenasMzz@mastodon.social
       2022-11-12T14:38:47Z
       
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       @feld @tk @maddiefuzz // 50mm on APS-C sensors, 85-ish mm on Full frame sensor cameras.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWzybH0Py0NA72rU8 by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2022-11-12T15:10:10.667483Z
       
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       @revjorobertson @feld @maddiefuzz Since we're talking #photography here, do any of you have suggestions on taking photos in the rain, without having one's lens getting all covered with raindrops?  I'm using lens hoods, but some of the hoods I have don't do much about rain.My lenses and camera are all splash resistant, by the way.
       
 (DIR) Post #APcyvGXK7szEyQHdJo by bkhl@mastodon.sdf.org
       2022-11-15T11:33:29Z
       
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       @onebiskuit @tk @maddiefuzz @feld well, even with 35 mm-equivalents, 50 mm is basically the most "realistic" in terms of approximating the perspective of the human eye, but somewhere around to 80 mm is more flattering for portraits (subject to taste).
       
 (DIR) Post #ARZPISDRHAc9tNONN2 by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
       2023-01-12T14:47:45.541344Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz I've never liked iPhone's processing of people. always looks overprocessed and it looks extremely fake. google's is better but I prefer samsung's fuzzier more realistic photos, even if they are processed
       
 (DIR) Post #ARa00sf5uMSx0LoMLI by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
       2023-01-12T21:39:12Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz I once asked my father why do I look so good on his photos, and bad at mine.He just said, that he's taking photo zoomed in from longer distance.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARdgB6sQgsOzXLUMPQ by Stellar@mk.absturztau.be
       2023-01-14T16:15:49.056Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz@hackers.town 300mm lens be like "get fucking two-dimentionned' idiot"
       
 (DIR) Post #ARjcJ95t66slrT7T7Y by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-01-17T13:00:44Z
       
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       @kino Aye.In Lens terms, our vision is equivalent to a 43mm focal point on a 35mm full frame sensor.Or ~28mm on an APS-C sensor (just putting it here for the APS-C users).@maddiefuzz
       
 (DIR) Post #ARklsNqVKsWyUilHLU by adamasnemesis@social.adamasnemesis.com
       2023-01-18T02:20:33Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz Very interesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn913IepbSXxFI8m by astrr@masto.astrra.space
       2024-01-07T17:50:48Z
       
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       @maddiefuzz the easiest way to get a nice portrait pic on a phone is to zoom in to about 2x and step away from the subjectThat way you get around a 50mm equivalent focal lens, pretty good for portraits
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9DirY7ynqKmeae by DearFox@meow.social
       2024-01-07T21:32:09Z
       
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       @astrr @maddiefuzz Вот только физические свойства объектива телефона вы никак не поменяете Как правило в телефонах объективы с широким углом.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9UQhQuYHevPt8i by astrr@masto.astrra.space
       2024-01-07T22:26:58Z
       
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       @DearFox @maddiefuzz Это конечно круто, но именно для этого и нужно отойти от субъекта. Искажение субъекта идет не от самого фокусного расстояния, а от расстояния от субъекта до объектива.Можете это проверить в домашних условиях на фронтальной камере телефона, сделайте фото на разных дистанциях (от 10см до пары метров), кропните их так чтобы ваше лицо занимало одинаковую область в кадре, и посмотрите на искажения. Физические свойства линзы никак не менялись, а перспектива все равно меняется.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9V90m9ztsM9HCy by astrr@masto.astrra.space
       2024-01-07T22:39:58Z
       
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       @DearFox @maddiefuzz в качестве примера приведу две фотографии сделанные на одну и ту же линзу (родное фокусное расстояние 24мм, остальные линзы на смартфоне были заклеены для чистоты эксперимента), но с разного расстояния с разным зумом.Фото номер один сделано практически в упор, на нем видно как сильно зубная щетка на переднем плане «вылезает» вперед вместе со стаканом и всеми остальными предметами.Фото номер два сделано с расстояния в примерно 60см, (продолжение в треде)
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9Vz7ePgITyWtQu by Revertron@zhub.link
       2024-01-08T04:24:17Z
       
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       @astrr @DearFox @maddiefuzz Это искажение называется рыбий глаз ведь?
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9ZaSG4KHed1FXU by astrr@masto.astrra.space
       2024-01-07T22:43:56Z
       
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       @DearFox @maddiefuzz (продолжение) ..,на нем заметно что зубная щетка больше не выпирает из кадра, а принт на краях стакана виден чуть дальше, да и сам стакан стал заметно площе.Напоминаю что оба фото сделаны на одну и ту же линзу без изменения ее физических характеристик, единственные две переменные это кроп и расстояние до субъекта. При этом они все еще показывают изменение перспективы, так же как и смена фокусного расстояния То же самое работает не только на зубных щетках, но и на людях.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adcn9bS1KOlfR35Xfc by astrr@masto.astrra.space
       2024-01-07T22:45:29Z
       
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       …зря я что ли фотографии столько лет училась!
       
 (DIR) Post #AdcypCPNvOT9QRtPbk by DearFox@meow.social
       2024-01-08T06:32:05Z
       
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       @Revertron @astrr @maddiefuzz рыбий глаз это объектив с очень маленьким фокусным расстоянием И он в целом создаёт артефакты на перспективе (ровные линии становятся изогнутыми к краям изображения )