Post APSUbUqsFhlFNHUBxA by mattj@floss.social
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(DIR) Post #APRQDG0j4853trqqPI by zkat@toot.cat
2022-11-09T21:55:09Z
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since a lot of folks are becoming newly interested in escaping corporate silos and moving to community-based services, are you aware of @matrix?Matrix is to Slack and Discord, what Mastodon is to Twitter: a decentralized, federated network based on open standards/specs. It also supports full end-to-end encryption, just like Signal, so you can exchange messages privately!If you find the fediverse interesting/inspiring, I recommend giving matrix a whirl. The quickest way to get started is to head over to https://app.element.io/ and make a (free!) account (although you can also join any number of other home servers, or host your own--they all talk to each other!).If you _do_ end up checking it out, please do say hi! I'm @zkat:zkat.tech over there. I also manage a "space" (a group of channels, kinda like a Discord server) that you can join by clicking here: https://matrix.to/#/!tKdDSgQTxQzcOuTXqV:matrix.org?via=zkat.tech&via=matrix.org&via=envs.netI hope this sparks your interest! I'd love to see you over there, too!
(DIR) Post #APRQDH7UwR5lLA1lbM by zkat@toot.cat
2022-11-09T21:58:11Z
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some other thoughts: someone on here recently referred to the Mastodon migration as a good example of the whole dual power philosophy: setting up healthy, community-based alternatives to the current systems of power, ready to have people fall back to them (and all their benefits), when they're finally forced out of the current power structures.I think building that out for Matrix, even if it doesn't completely replace all your communities (yet!) is something that is worth getting started with right now! It doesn't hurt to get yourself a Matrix account, after all, and you might find some community and discover you like it a lot! (I do! I wish my Discord communities lived there!)
(DIR) Post #APRUhMhn8hQLAQbhK4 by alpsoy@mastodon.gamedev.place
2022-11-09T22:30:33Z
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@zkat @matrix I suggest people who value their privacy to take a look at Privacy cards of Element’s iOS app before downloading.
(DIR) Post #APRUhN6beRH0PODW08 by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
2022-11-09T23:25:06Z
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@alpsoy @zkat this? it’s the stuff needed for the app to work. how can you do location sharing without access to location data? how can you find out which of your contacts are on the app without (optionally) checking contact data?
(DIR) Post #APRVhtlOKWwteJ6ohE by ticho@mastodon.sk
2022-11-09T23:35:56Z
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@matrix @alpsoy @zkat Aren't there alternate Matrix clients which do not have those features, and therefore do not need those (unacceptable for some) privileges?That's what I like about #Matrix - lots of different clients.
(DIR) Post #APSDwoZkPsvtPJ3SDo by nat@kitty.town
2022-11-10T06:50:08Z
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@alpsoy @zkat @matrix Its also worth considering that matrix metadata is not completely private. It was a while ago i checked but i remember usernames get exposed to central server and only way to increase privacy is to fully defederate. Plan your community there yes, plan your revolution there no.
(DIR) Post #APSDwp9uFRr9DRyKa8 by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
2022-11-10T07:51:29Z
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@nat @alpsoy @zkat This is not true, and never has been true - there is no “central server” in matrix, and metadata isn’t exposed to it. only the servers participating in a given room necessarily see the metadata of that room.
(DIR) Post #APSEHO2CI6GxAlAg52 by childishgiant@cathode.church
2022-11-10T06:14:37Z
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@zkat @matrix last time I used matrix the UX was awful, has it seen any improvements or do messages still take minutes to load and need reloading all the time?
(DIR) Post #APSEHOXOQ7E4jVlahk by zkat@toot.cat
2022-11-10T06:17:03Z
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@childishgiant @matrix idk, I'm feeling pretty good about the improvements that have happened in Element over the past couple of years, and they've got new mobile apps coming up soon that are even nicer. I wouldn't say the UX is awful.
(DIR) Post #APSEHP1Wc5KSExrefg by childishgiant@cathode.church
2022-11-10T06:33:49Z
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@zkat @matrix I recentlyish spoke to someone who works at element who said that internally they use discord ... until they can dog food I'm not going near it I think 😅
(DIR) Post #APSEHPRl2YJRYK8bYm by zkat@toot.cat
2022-11-10T06:35:09Z
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@childishgiant that doesn't sound like what I've heard? They talk up their own dogfooding?what's the story, @matrix ?
(DIR) Post #APSEHQ2GqnWHNZDlTM by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
2022-11-10T07:55:09Z
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@zkat @childishgiant Element has exclusively dogfooded Matrix since day 1; the only other comms tool in use is an IRC server in case of a catastrophe on Matrix. Some folks might use Discord personally; that’s their call :)
(DIR) Post #APSF2YpvwjRkHkvgYa by nat@kitty.town
2022-11-10T08:02:36Z
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@matrix @alpsoy @zkat matrix.org reply here is disconcerting. for anyone that reaches here and is concerned: the issue lies in matrix instance callbacks to matrixorg and vector.Im. the following may be slightly outdated but you can start there. look around for lockdown guides to find how to fix some privacy issues in default configuration https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/blob/master/part1/README.md
(DIR) Post #APSGIxWs0XWDSIObDc by nat@kitty.town
2022-11-10T08:17:58Z
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@matrix @alpsoy @zkat for anyone that reaches here and is concerned: the issue lies in matrix instance callbacks to matrixorg and/or vector.Im. my understanding is more than 1 year old so check around for lockdown guides to find how to fix some privacy issues in default configuration.I find matrix denial of metadata issues to be strange because it's been debated widely.https://gitlab.com/prism-break/prism-break/-/issues/2176https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/blob/master/part1/README.md
(DIR) Post #APSJUPVOdIK1GnrHXM by stinpriza@framapiaf.org
2022-11-10T08:29:08Z
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@ticho @matrix @alpsoy @zkat no, last time we checked verification can only be done through element client. so what's the use of other clients if there's just one client (element) to "rule em all"... (and element is just so heavy/laggish).if things are changed by now, and other clients work without the need for element, it might be time for a new try.. (is it?)
(DIR) Post #APSJUQ4UWoOX1eHJEu by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
2022-11-10T08:54:09Z
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@stinpriza @ticho @alpsoy @zkat most clients support verification. and meanwhile element has got much faster.
(DIR) Post #APSUbTqpyM8aGsSeG0 by liberloebi@mastodon.social
2022-11-10T07:33:10Z
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@zkat @matrix And, of course, there is XMPP, which, in my view, is better suited for individual communications, whereas Matrix has obvious advantages for organisations.
(DIR) Post #APSUbUO9ySnBwE3GCG by debacle@framapiaf.org
2022-11-10T10:36:17Z
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@liberloebi @zkat @matrix"Matrix is to Slack and Discord,what Mastodon is to Twitter"Very well said and fully agreed. I like to add:"#Jabber #XMPP is to Whatsapp and Signal,what #Mastodon is to #Twitter."(I don't get, why sometimes there is a Jabber-Matrix flamewar, like it were about really important things like #Emacs vs the other thingy, what's its name?)#twexit
(DIR) Post #APSUbUqsFhlFNHUBxA by mattj@floss.social
2022-11-10T10:49:54Z
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@debaclenano.