Post APRgfp2I2DEHu6E37I by Burn@social.076.ne.jp
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 (DIR) Post #APRUk0Mse48ul45JUu by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-09T23:26:57.262Z
       
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       The slightest amount of difficulty or abstraction totally gate-keeps most people. Move the goalpost for accessibility by like 3 IQ percentage points and you see a massive drop-off in users (for the better). It's pretty bizarre and pathetic seeing these people gloat about, essentially, how stupid they are and how they're incapable of comprehending pretty simple, straightforward concepts.The earlier internet was a much, much better place precisely because it was slightly more difficult to understand and utilize. The earlier internet was more difficult and more abstract than the fediverse. The simplification and appification of the internet and internet-connected services/networks has been a disaster for the human race.RE: https://ryona.agency/objects/205030ab-e1e6-40a9-b890-bafe2b655261
       
 (DIR) Post #APRVvn6PtMMH2qZGVM by MMS21@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:39:03.176736Z
       
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       There’s hope for reverting the web back to the good old days when it was just nerds.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRVvnXMHBuQOPAmUy by kroner@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:40:17.491295Z
       
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       Hopefully the project I'm working on can help with that, we will see 🤓
       
 (DIR) Post #APRWFr5MnCgJBpdzZw by MMS21@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:42:19.504749Z
       
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       btw I’ve written off forums completely and I’m learning C++ everyday so that I can make calico-chat.A FOSS self hosted discord clone is the only way forward imo.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRWMjnkH1ImcpgRtY by kroner@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:45:09.289167Z
       
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       Forums with chat 👁️👄👁️
       
 (DIR) Post #APRWVgeNMIZvSUZIqO by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-09T23:46:46.739Z
       
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       @MMS21@seal.cafe You're describing Matrix + Element
       
 (DIR) Post #APRWdvSgArqjiC1g3c by kroner@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:48:15.649143Z
       
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       🤷 I guess it doesn't necessarily need chats, it's possible though (Lemmy has chats)
       
 (DIR) Post #APRYrfEnUV41MBDB4K by MMS21@seal.cafe
       2022-11-09T23:49:14.251006Z
       
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       All the Matrix clients I’ve seen suck so I guess making a UI instead of a whole new protocol would suffice.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRZ7MxRDtubIOa4Ei by arielanimefan@chudbuds.lol
       2022-11-10T00:16:00.845361Z
       
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       Your frens here are lucky I read seal cafe. I had quite a few interesting things to add 🧐
       
 (DIR) Post #APRaV6H30Kg4SLdHCy by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-10T00:31:29.481Z
       
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       @bot@seal.cafe Only if you use Matrix.com
       
 (DIR) Post #APRadbobcPegb2O1BI by straw@rdrama.cc
       2022-11-10T00:33:02.209487Z
       
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       @kino this is what being absolutely mentally retarded with not a shred of brain matter looks like
       
 (DIR) Post #APRarjZJaXvahHyAy0 by straw@rdrama.cc
       2022-11-10T00:35:35.717238Z
       
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       @kino even when I was a liberal I didn't like the Palmer Report guy. fuck that guy
       
 (DIR) Post #APRbtyudbwc4opZwgK by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-10T00:47:11.647Z
       
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       @bot@seal.cafe Matrix.org or whatever then
       
 (DIR) Post #APRgfp2I2DEHu6E37I by Burn@social.076.ne.jp
       2022-11-10T01:40:37.868941Z
       
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       @MMS21@kino @kroner Why don't you just use XMPP instead? I've heard that Matrix has metadata problems from @ryo, so Matrix is inferior.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRgjpZrxlRmk3qMt6 by kino@fedi.intkos.link
       2022-11-10T01:41:22.727Z
       
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       @Burn@social.076.ne.jp I've heard that Matrix has metadata problemsOnly if you're using Matrix.org afaIk.@MMS21@seal.cafe @kroner@seal.cafe @ryo@social.076.ne.jp
       
 (DIR) Post #APRi1KHt8Yn0reL6g4 by ryo@social.076.ne.jp
       2022-11-10T01:55:43.355225Z
       
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       @kino @kroner @MMS21 @Burn Imagine how many people are on Matrix.org, and how many who are on other instances interact with at least someone on who's on Matrix.org.Unlike XMPP that keeps data local, Matrix actually makes full copies of all the data to each instance it gets in contact with, so in theory, even if you have no contact with anyone on Matrix.org at all and your entire MUC consists of nobody who's on Matrix.org, but somebody who's in your MUC has a friend who's on Matrix.org, then that metadata still gets sent to Matrix.org.I haven't used Matrix for years now, so this is basically theory.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRiiiL5abhVuYWe8G by balrog_booger@kabuki.club
       2022-11-10T02:03:35.504522Z
       
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       I haven’t gone through the code or anything, so I have no idea if this is an actual concern. But apparently the early development of Matrix has ties to Mossad https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/matrix-vs-xmpp/
       
 (DIR) Post #APRqeMZDOYs4rRZL72 by neglesaks@mstdn.io
       2022-11-10T03:32:26Z
       
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       @kino Essetially correct.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRr8gbLTLddgT1aRU by Hyolobrika@gleasonator.com
       2022-11-10T03:37:55.119555Z
       
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       @kino @straw @kino Idea: an explicitly and purposely gatekept site. You'd have to solve a puzzle or problem to enter.
       
 (DIR) Post #APRtQiQVcnLESvgH8C by straw@rdrama.cc
       2022-11-10T04:03:36.300430Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @kino it's kinda funny, the non-fedi users are doing the gatekeeping for us
       
 (DIR) Post #APShkQXiwO6k1N7Ks4 by udon@social.076.ne.jp
       2022-11-10T09:11:18.443579Z
       
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       @Burn @MMS21 @kino @kroner @ryo https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.orgalso