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(DIR) Post #APQeZs41TBxaUV6vVQ by ArtistBristol@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T13:42:21.236622Z
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Anyone want to give their thoughts on why some women have left Spinster, especially if they've given a reason on another platform?And conversely, why you're still here?*For example, one very well known and loved activist has said she left because it (spinster) became "the epitome of drear".I joined in April 2020, soon after my cancellation. I joined because I needed the support, and I found it here, and will always be grateful. I'm still here because I think spinster performs a very different function to most other "feminist" social media.Yes it's small, with only a few active users.But instead of a constant parade of horror stories from the news media, here we can have more in depth discussions. We can connect, encourage each other, and recommend other sources, like books, legal info, protest groups, videos, consultations etc, to women who need support.And take the time to do so.I think of spinster as the feminist hub.It's BECAUSE it isn't endless trolling and bitching, like Twatter, that I like it!There are certain subjects I wouldn't bring up here because they ars not relevant to most women's lives, they are more suited to the banter over on GETTR. (There are loads of terfs on GETTR)!But that restraint which I think we all use here, is what makes it such a civilised and useful space for women.The one thing I miss, is that when I joined there were more Witches actively posting!The one thing spinster hasn't got, which we asked for and didn't get, is chat rooms for specific subjects, like book/movie clubs, or one specially for the witches.(And I don't agree with the quote - I don't think spinster is dreary AT ALL)!:dinosaur:
(DIR) Post #APQhHs239JO32gIQXA by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:06:08.145271Z
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@ArtistBristol Ever since 2019, we were promised groups...
(DIR) Post #APQhHsRZcPnsJqEoJk by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:09:37.166704Z
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@ArtistBristol P.S.: I have no thoughts on why some have left Spinster, and I will not think for them, it's for them to either state it as they leave or if they're too *skittish*, talk about it elsewhere.I'm still here because this is where I feel the most accepted, where I can talk about pretty much anything. And some women here are fab. I do feel a sense of community, well, most of the time.
(DIR) Post #APQhqfgN3aI8sMkaLg by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:19:02.483344Z
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@ArtistBristol I am still here because other than GETTR (which I don’t use as much as I should) I still believe Spinster is the absolute best place for true freedom of speech. Some have obviously left due to their personal ambitions and feel twitter (complete with its censoring of women) will serve them better . People often criticise Spinster for being “an echo chamber” but I believe like you said it’s actually the place you are more likely to get a true debate without someone flouncing off. find GETTR tiring because with freedom of speech comes the intense conspiracy theorists that ultimately end up shutting down discussing with “it’s the Democrats you simp!” Or “it’s the Jews!!!” so yeah…I find the voices here really diverse, we have a surprising good mix of ages and locations and condiment preference . It’s all good.
(DIR) Post #APQibYU9dIoAAIONOq by KeepTakingTheSoma@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:27:27.664436Z
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@Chronic-Yonic @ArtistBristol Couldn't agree more. Lots of different chats and subjects, both important and profound, as well as trivial and fun. Polite disagreement (because we're grown ups) and no need for the hot take tribalism of Twatter. I do far less social media these days, but Spinster is where I spend the most of my social media time, because I'm more likely to enjoy the comments, memes, topics and company. Regardless of what happens on Twatter, I will not return, although it is fun to see snapshots of the "liberal" meltdown going on there. Love you all. 💞
(DIR) Post #APQicNPIJ8Dw5zViPA by Antiquixotic@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:27:40.772288Z
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@ArtistBristol There’s a natural ebb and flow for everyone, so I imagine many have left just because life has pulled them in other directions. I came from reddit when the women’s subs we’re getting too real for the reddit penises and thus cancelled. I stay because it keeps me up to date on women’s issues, plus the added bonus that I discover so many random delights from Spinsters. I don’t show up here too much, especially when I get busy, but I appreciate the unique world of Spinster. I imagine if anyone is trying to make this their “one and only” they’re bound to become hurt or frustrated.
(DIR) Post #APQkh2sAHU6xlXMuOG by Brookryn@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:08:59.229620Z
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@ArtistBristol spin is too small for the endless doom scroll of Twitter so less addictive in that way, I'm sure at different times it can be dreary, I unload about life shit here in a way I don't on Twitter...
(DIR) Post #APQlhFPpkKD8camFDU by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T15:02:10.033078Z
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@ArtistBristol I regularly get tired of the infighting, quarreling and finger-pointing when it raises its head on Spinster, and every once in a while think of ditching the place. I stay because Spinster is still one of the few places online that both contains a solid array of links on the gender nonsense, and allows me to be open about things I don’t believe in. When another online space crops up which is both those things, I’ll be happy to remove myself from Spinster and leave it to the more ideologically committed. And no, so far Gettr isn’t it either.
(DIR) Post #APQpHSeOJguLxKXu8O by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:29:07.205265Z
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@Ladyfat @ArtistBristol I agree, and you can block or mute trolls, and curate your contactsif you want to. What is irritating me is how often it seems not tobe working properly. Every place is an echo chamber if you comedown to it. I enjoy the company and that dick pandering isn’t a thing,on the whole anyway.
(DIR) Post #APQpIN7kLjfD6ai8fI by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:39:52.031320Z
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@HebrideanHecate @Ladyfat @ArtistBristol *Every place is an echo chamber if you comedown to it*Exactly. On places where you can choose who follows you and who you follow, when you block or mute, you basically are creating your own personal echo chamber and quite frankly, I don't mind, I'm not here to be aggravated.
(DIR) Post #APQpIOT3M0IjGxgfVw by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:44:50.263675Z
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@HebrideanHecate @Ladyfat @ArtistBristol As for echo chambers go, it depends on the quality of the people in said echo chamber, me thinks?
(DIR) Post #APQqJDxtzGJmwZ4nrM by Childfree@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T15:52:06.147010Z
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@ArtistBristol Spinster is the best! Free speech and women-only spaces are super important and we have that here (for the most part). This site keeps me aware about what is going on in the world for women and girls, not just the U.S. Also, Spinsters are a funny, creative, insightful, and generally supportive group of women.
(DIR) Post #APQqWjtyYh6Pl3gV5E by feerique@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T15:56:22.043290Z
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@ArtistBristol I just don't really use other mainstream social media and I like that there are open source options. But I get why others would leave. It's just kinda empty around here.
(DIR) Post #APQuMQhnTWpP8sKMbo by GalacticTurtle@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T16:38:11.529314Z
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@ArtistBristol Groups/clubs would definitely be nice... if only so I can talk about Star Wars without clogging up someone's feed lol. I joined because I can be honest with the thoughts and discussions I have here. I stay because I don't really have many other outlets for such conversations.
(DIR) Post #APQvXDeISWZdmuOnDM by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T16:44:48.824700Z
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@GalacticTurtle @ArtistBristol This is the only truly free speech platform that I have found. I refuse to leave.
(DIR) Post #APQwU51AC22M6WA4xs by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:00:20.418146Z
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@ArtistBristol I joined January 2020 after I discovered I wasn't allowed to ask questions on FaceBook.Before I discovered Spinster, I spent about a year in deep depression and isolation over my growing objections and questions about gender ideology, that I had learned I had to keep to myself. The leftist world I had built around myself, had turned on me and left me behind. My mental health was suffering greatly, because I literally had no one or any resources to talk to or research. I just had questions swirling in my own mind for over a year in silence. I'm sure you can imagine how isolating this was.I didn't know about "gender critical feminism" as an Intersectional feminist and I didn't know where to look for the answers to the questions I had. Since I knew I could not publicly ask these questions online, (after being attacked on a feminist FB group for saying I don't feel right about "people with uterus' ") I pathetically tried to reach out to one of my trans friends, hoping they might be able to empathize with me, since they'd known me so long. I tried to ask them what they thought about my thoughts. It went south fast. Then I asked one more friend, a guy friend...because he was a friend of mine who was into Simone De Beauvoir and well read. I thought if my sisters attacked me, maybe a brother would have a different perspective. But I soon found out he was also into Judith Butler. He wasn't angry at me, but he just didn't see anything wrong with the things I raised. He didn't understand the problem. He didn't understand ME. No one did.After I struck out asking online strangers, after I struck out asking a trans friend, and after I struck out asking a non-trans friend, I decided to start asking the internet. I just straight up searched my questions and I found myself on Reddit in a "GC" sub. Radical feminism was mentioned. Meghan Murphy was mentioned. And I ended up watching a YouTube video of hers where she mentioned a place called Spinster. "Spinster?? That's a funny name," I thought. And I checked it out. And I've been here almost daily ever since.For the first time I could not believe my eyes. Women were bravely speaking online about all the things I was afraid to say aloud. And they weren't getting banned and harassed!! I could not believe my eyes. I had finally found my people. That entire year of dark isolation was lifted off me like a theatre curtain being raised. I was free! Spinster helped me realize that I was not alone and that I was right for following my gut instincts. Spinster helped heal the depressing isolation I was in after I had been shunned and blocked by people who knew me in real life on FB.I've learned so much here. I've made so many positive friendships here and have become more connected with the international community. And the updated GC news that comes around here - I don't know where else I can get it. The infighting I kind of feel is something that will happen in any online platform where at least 2 people meet, because nobody is a carbon copy of each other. I dare anyone to show me a place for discussion online where nobody has any disagreements at any time ever...and I will show you a place that is probably heavily censored and full of blocked dissenters. This social utopia where nobody fights does not exist. We are women with strong convictions. As a result, we are bound to butt heads at some point, as is the way of life. It's better to learn how to butt heads and move forward, then to live in a glass cage where you waste away in your own echo chamber. At this point Spinster is too valuable to me to leave permanently. I can see taking a break, but leaving for good? No, not me. Not at this point. I know some Spinsters like Haniffiyah and @Ismat left us, because they felt unwelcome or discriminated against as middle eastern women of color on a site primarily comprised of white women. I know a Spinster who left for college (Hammy). I know a Spinster who left because she was afraid of being identified on here. And I know some Spinsters who left because they had life events come up. Lots of women will leave and stay for their own reasons. However, I do wish more women were here! Far too many empty inactive profiles here. I've tried to recruit, but no one really actually checks it out. Not sure why.
(DIR) Post #APQyDAWafIxAAWvQAq by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:08:17.558871Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat I was told that Spinster is seen as a small silo, by those out in the big world of Book of Surveillance. They must. Brotech. Because. For connections. Grade school family pics they'd miss, harmless!I got back on twatter after May, 2018 she-ban and found my way here. I admit to swimming in twatter land and ignoring my little spinster sister, my one only "other" platform. I'm loyal! I'm not into purity or in fights.
(DIR) Post #APQyDB4ybSSVtB0sls by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:18:09.566622Z
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@CharlytheWorm @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat It's good to keep at least one ghost twitter account to make research easier, but it's not what it used to be. Even Native twitter has dwindled down to a few hundred hold outs. It used to be huge.
(DIR) Post #APQyDBSjB9SR4q7qnA by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:21:34.982028Z
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@AnungIkwe @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat I'm able to get resources, still, and I think GC comunity is growing, and how else would've I tracked the UK sisters progress in getting rights for their gender critical beliefs in law, and shutting down Tavi?Let's keep our ears open and keep sharing from the wide world of women. We are vast.
(DIR) Post #APQyzjkB1Zu9IbRHsm by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:31:14.315102Z
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@ArtistBristol I enjoy it because Spinsters share articles and videos that I enjoy, and offer interesting insights. I also enjoy it as a way of interacting anonymously. It’s not actually that I’m in the closet as feminist or GC; I just think it’s wise not to have personal information all over the web. I think it’s different if, like you, someone is an artist with a following.Also, I’ve come to like and enjoy many individual Spinsters, and going to another forum with different people would not be the same.
(DIR) Post #APR1Qs5QJYOEttRYsi by EmmyNoether@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:41:47.892446Z
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@Cousin_Isobel @ArtistBristol What I like about Spinster:Being able to speak my mindBeing able to rant about shit in RL when there’s nowhere else to. (Eg non-binary bloke saying “but whyyyyy can’t I use the women’s restroom seeing as men are so scary?” “Erm, dude, that would be exactly why YOU can’t use it.”)Lots of fellow Scots which simultaneously makes me homesick and glad not to live under Sturgeon and her StasiTalking feminism with interesting women.Talking politics with interesting womenTalking nonsense with interesting women (that includes hamsters, mayonnaise, watercolours, etc.)Stuff that’s frustrating about spinster:So many mayonnaise with chips fetishistsBlocking and broken threadsThreads generally too short to get any nuanced discussion or development of argumentsCovid threads (but I like to think I’m grown up enough to scroll past those since they don’t do it for me)*Small reach in terms of numbers of participants.Really sorry to hear British spins come across as lesbophobic (I hope I have never given this impression - the cotton ceiling was one of the things which first peaked me) or elitist or classist (bit puzzled by this one as I get the impression many of the UK spinsters I talk to are working class or financially struggling).
(DIR) Post #APR3UwzIEYtDASeIJU by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T16:34:13.158492Z
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@ArtistBristol Every woman I know left because of racism, but my perspective is going to be very different from your. I stayed because of racism.
(DIR) Post #APR3UxbZwDVx5CYrzM by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T16:48:18.231482Z
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@ArtistBristol Actually come to think of it I was on a live chat about this topic 6 months ago where we talked about leaving Spinster. This one was about half white half women of color the main reasons given in that chat were1. Too much talk about the COVID vaccine2. Too much to deal with with lesbophobia classism and elitism from women from the UK3. To much hyper-focus on transgender issues Detransitioners didn't like too much making fun of theway troons look4. Not enough women with a solid grounding in radical feminist politics, too may "shit lib" femmeswho are single issue with no coherent political strategy and not enough discussion of pornography, prostitution, sexual assualt domestic abuse ...5. Not enough talk about organizing strategies and too much talk about personalites6. Not enough older seasoned radical feminists in the forum - constantly having to educate youngerwomen about the most basic aspects of radical femininism7. To many ad hominem attacks and too much blocking 8. Too many posts of water color chickens and hamstersI'm sure if we had the same discussion today, the reasons would change a bit.
(DIR) Post #APR5JSCwX3EOQdgBSi by DollyCat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:41:11.485128Z
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@ArtistBristol I stay because I was democratically elected potato queen...or and cos it really is free speech.
(DIR) Post #APR5Xz0LOJVmCTiLPk by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2022-11-09T18:44:39.571759Z
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@ArtistBristol GETTR is still centralized and does not federate. People don't realize what is at stake. We cannot have single, controllable sources of fake-ass social media.
(DIR) Post #APR5pbH6M9lNofx98q by Tiggy@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T17:36:48.571542Z
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@ArtistBristol I also realized I only answered half the question.I think a lot of women leave for a lot of reasons. I do think that a big reason however is that a lot of people aren't used to smaller internet communities anymore. They are not used to seeing the same faces everyday. So why I DO like this place is also a contender to why some don't like this place. Some don't mesh with the personalities on the site and go elsewhere ,some don't like how slow it is here and get bored or forget about it. I've heard a lot of complaints about the free speech aspect of the platform and some simply just want rules and want people to tell them what they're allowed to say and what others are allowed to say and move back to mainstream social media.
(DIR) Post #APR6AKGUnFnr8uYJ6G by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:48:16.675244Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat First impressions are a hard thing to over come. Most women I chat with who have left already have a fixed idea what Spinster is from experiences with it years ago and won't consider coming back and trying to change it for the better.
(DIR) Post #APR6AKh5CP4QTMzXXc by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:51:34.473426Z
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@AnungIkwe @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat I would fully agree here, some of my twit terf friends won’t come back for assorted reasons that happened right at the very start of Spin. I think a lot of Twitter lovers were scared by the lack of modding, free speech is always fab until you don’t like the speech afterall.
(DIR) Post #APR6JTFMlinjbbNuYi by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:46:45.850797Z
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@ArtistBristol The only reason I dislike it is I HATE the time timeline that doesn't stick together and having to scroll for 80 minutes every single time I come on. I know some women left because of that. Some lesbians said it wasn't lesbian friendlySome mothers said it wasn't mom friendlySome women complained we divert too much from hard issuesSome American women haven't left but they use blocking because someone criticizes their country
(DIR) Post #APR6JTu8K9PXe2ST6O by polarisera@gleasonator.com
2022-11-09T18:53:14.204264Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @ArtistBristol Yeah, I do think we need a better timeline. There were some mastodon types talking about better algorithms for people not checking in everyday. I suggest we have multiple bring-your-own-algorithms that individuals can tune, etc.
(DIR) Post #APR6mLMh9UFZYga2Uq by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:57:17.696395Z
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@Ladyfat @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat "Free speech is cool...as long as I agree with what's being said." ✅
(DIR) Post #APR6mfFdDSU3EZQgGO by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:55:16.089007Z
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@Ladyfat @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat The younger generation needs someone to teach them how to toughen up.
(DIR) Post #APR85CzgbF4n3INSka by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:04:14.701941Z
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@AnungIkwe @Ladyfat @ArtistBristol @Ismat Yes. We hand out Participation trophies instead of teaching kids sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but you get back up and try again. This has raised a generation of entitled, sheltered little brats who blow over from a light wind.
(DIR) Post #APR88wwWDeOQQegD1U by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:13:44.647534Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Exactly that. Personally I usually quite like a good argument 😅
(DIR) Post #APR8SHWPvmwHkugnIm by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:17:13.529210Z
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@AnungIkwe @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat I also remember when Karen thingy (I really am terrible with names) came here and was genuinely baffled by fact that nobody was going to block Meghan Murphy for calling her an arsehole. The thing is a lot of us fully agreed with a lot of what Karen says and I think she would have liked it here BUT she couldn’t get passed the fact we supported Meghan’s right to call her an arsehole even if we didn’t agree that she was an arsehole. Likewise when she then called Meghan a pointy white woman 🙃
(DIR) Post #APR8mMHZwNpKJQK1WS by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:20:12.420957Z
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@Ladyfat @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Yes!! That was fucked up! I haven't been able to watch any of her stuff since. Karen Davis...the "You've Got To Be Kiddin' Right?" Lady.
(DIR) Post #APR8n41TJd5RyD7mWe by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:20:59.008774Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Yes that one!
(DIR) Post #APR8xsaOB57TgWc7yC by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:22:55.498695Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat I also found it on specially funny because she said something “maybe that’s how White women speak to each other but I expect better” because blacks people would NEVER use derogating terms 🤣😏
(DIR) Post #APR92hboPwv15WZzCS by Kay@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:12:37.054359Z
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@ArtistBristol The only reasons I've seen others give for why they were choosing to leave, was a racism problem that we all apparently have here. I'm not perpetually glued to my phone, most days, so I seem to miss these instances of blatant racism or I've mutually blocked/been blocked by the worst offenders so I am not witnessing the worst of the worst. Otherwise I really have no idea why anyone leaves, if they've found this place to be in any way useful. I personally find it nice to have a place I can go to vent, and read other people's thoughts, and rants, and see discussions about the pros and cons of mayonnaise. It's not always about anything political, and I'm not constantly being told I'm a Nazi speaking in dog whistles, so it's refreshing. I will take short breaks now and then, for my mental health or when I'm too busy to bore everyone with whatever it is I have to say.
(DIR) Post #APR9nfGYwgBFQt28Mi by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:25:10.919965Z
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@Ladyfat @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat I missed that part! The thread is still out there though...here is her profile from that day if you want to go to her replies and relive the comedy lol:https://spinster.xyz/@YouAreKiddingRight
(DIR) Post #APR9p6lqAb591fLryS by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:32:33.669563Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat I’m gonna treat myself to a read 🤣🤣🤣
(DIR) Post #APRA4vP4CWl4P7F2Aq by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:34:38.774424Z
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@Ladyfat @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat She got lippy with me too that day. But because her dumb ass barged in here not knowing how the platform worked...she thought stuff I was saying to Butterfly Tsuji was directed at her and went off on me. Pissed me off.
(DIR) Post #APRA79hxzFsDLh94nA by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:35:49.249798Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Blooming heck!
(DIR) Post #APRGnaaz0go4csUolc by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T20:50:43.878173Z
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@ArtistBristol Oh I think another reason people leave is (and this is an extension of free speech) that they genuinely cannot understand that there are people sometimes here but mostly on other instances that hold different political views than they do, they also think that being in the presence of such other people taint their argument. We can see that in the latest UK professional fem ™ rants about Heart of Oak etc the irony of course is that some of their friends on “nice and clean hahahhaha” Twitter also hold those views but they don’t speak about them openly. Personally I feel happy that here I can say openly something like: “I have some concerns about the rate of immigration in the uk” without being banned flat out or shouted down .As I’ve said before some women that went to FiLia and Women’s Place voted for Brexit others have voted Tory every chance they get, it’s bizarre that some aren’t ready to accept this.
(DIR) Post #APRHmkkJsvPnlw1omW by EmmyNoether@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T20:56:41.725028Z
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@Ladyfat @ArtistBristol I also wish we could operate more with some sort of “principle of charity” in mind: assume that it is possible for someone to look at the same political situation as you, look at the same events, and come to a different conclusion about the political solution - in good faith. And also that all political decision making always involves weighing pros and cons and conflicting interests.As one Tory friend of mine put it: “I’m a Tory because I believe in ‘give a man a fish, he eats tonight, show him how to make a fishing net and he eats for life’, not because I believe people without fish should starve.”
(DIR) Post #APRJjEz9iJpGJ8Q90C by blingring@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T21:21:55.088730Z
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@Ladyfat making sure the colonies are in line 😂@ArtistBristol 100% to all of the above. For my support, I demand Viceroyess.
(DIR) Post #APRKaqbKadpaJoq3M0 by blingring@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T21:22:54.687223Z
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@EmmyNoether @Ladyfat @ArtistBristol YES. Treating the other as a human and charitably.
(DIR) Post #APRNhn8aAM2XSwOVvM by earlgrey@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T22:03:50.405744Z
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@Ladyfat @ArtistBristol I disagree with things other women say, I still want to hear what they say and engage with them. People have become very used to being reactionary, and in an angry manner at that. Which is something social media itself facilitates it promotes negative reactions because that's the nature of the algorithm. I can disagree in the moment and then move on and fully agree with you on another thing. We're all adults, and on here people are able to act like it more then other social media platforms I've seen. And no I don't think disagreements are bad, free speech means people can argue too, women can express themselves in a number of ways not just being nice and accommodating imo. Also I can always just scroll past, no need to become inflamed over it.
(DIR) Post #APRNho1sqkHAESGg7c by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T22:06:55.559869Z
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@earlgrey @ArtistBristol EXACTLY!
(DIR) Post #APRNzTMIRSEZKrEwSm by blingring@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T21:29:38.097734Z
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@Ladyfat @ArtistBristol Effectively immediately. 🙃😂
(DIR) Post #APRTHOlmk1wm5QWsLI by earlgrey@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T21:58:11.691565Z
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@Brookryn @ArtistBristol Yes this is a thing with me too, I don't want huge platforms that are designed to make me addicted. I want to speak to women and share my opinions, this space is just right for that. There's also no idiot takes and uninformed morons weighing in just to make noise. Also, no male harassment, porn, porn jokes or anything of that nature.
(DIR) Post #APRTPLcGLmGIcerjRg by RockTheBoat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T21:07:24.601711Z
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@ArtistBristol Some left because of the issue of having to prove they were women, and being accused of being a man. (I have seen this discussed multiple times elsewhere and I have seen it happen here, so I understand why these women left.) The message being sent is it’s ok to not look feminine, but don’t act un-feminine online or you are blackballed. We rail against the idea that you don’t have to look or behave “like a woman” IRL, but somehow this isn’t railed against in online spaces, even here (sadly).
(DIR) Post #APRZDjQSbHEciVBoAq by FeralDandelion@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:51:30.943839Z
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@ArtistBristol I’m still here because I know of nowhere else in Cyberia that is so clearcut for _female_ socializing. This is the only social site I actively use, though I have other accounts, like on MeWe and Gettr (but not FB or Twtr). Regardless of what was hoped for (chat rooms, etc) I personally don’t think the format of Mastodon will ever be the ideal venue, especially when one considers its roots (bigger side topic, I wont elaborate here). Because of the inherent shortcomings built into Mastodon (and modern social sites at large) I do find an ebb and flow happens with me having to leave due to burnout. I WANT to connect and create with other women, but here just doesn’t provide that, unfortunately (and I really this is not to sound harsh or critical towards Spinster or any member) it’s still the best I have access to. I know some Spinsters have met IRL, some get opportunities to organize for action; I’ve not met anyone IRL from here. Spinster has been phenomenally important in reminding me that not the WHOLE world has gone mad, it brought me out of existential crisis, but now I regularly just feel an ennui related to the known societal social network issue of “feeling lonely while being more connected than ever”.
(DIR) Post #APRZHLWDQcw3jDbZFA by stingray@poa.st
2022-11-10T00:11:14.065678Z
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@ArtistBristol Can't really speak for why people leave. All I can really think of is feminist subject matter occasionally gets a bit repetitive, but that depends on your interests. I lack the interest to do things like attending feminist webinars, and while I've got "TERF" in my profile I just use it as shorthand for "woman who doesn't want to deal with trannies" because that's all it seems to mean anymore. I don't particularly mind men who are like, normal.I stop by and have considered making a Spinster account or switching over because it's nice to be able to talk to other women about woman things (or laughing at sideshows) in an environment where I won't get bitched at for not including/wanting to deal with genderspecials.And while pretty much all of my personal interactions on Poast have been pleasant, there are some real fucking speds and I feel like a bit of an outsider. Hopping around various instances is essential.
(DIR) Post #APRZSiQwZUcJz1YoPA by DollyCat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:36:12.228565Z
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@AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol 8. You can NEVER have to many water colour hens1. Mute covid stuff... I know I did then un muted a while later.4. This meant to be women's place to speak regardless of theory knowledge. Everyone has something worthwhile to contribute.5. Lots of people here organize and some with posie etc.7. Agree to much blocking it spoils it for others but mute is your friend.5. Again. Lots of talk of potato organizing which is totally valid.2. Not sure about this.
(DIR) Post #APRZTs8JzgVCM7OxNI by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:44:36.983633Z
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@DollyCat @ArtistBristol What is potato organizing? I can't find it in urban dictionary.
(DIR) Post #APRZTsZcMCKvimAkvA by DollyCat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:51:27.730146Z
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@AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol Even the trans knew of this and joked about on twitter after lurking here. I was voted potato dictator... I mean leader, and I run a tight ship. It's a way of life...all things potato and chips .... it very zen. :ablobreach:
(DIR) Post #APRZUMP1S9geEbRiZU by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:03:31.483363Z
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@DollyCat @ArtistBristol Wait, I didn't get to vote for a dictator? I thought it had something to do with the mashed potato insult the trans mis-appropriated.
(DIR) Post #APRZhhqF3RqgUVXdJY by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:22:34.136160Z
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@AnungIkwe @DollyCat @ArtistBristol Oh, the potato empire is a long-standing piece of Spinster lore. There was an allegedly rigged poll. Dolly became leader. I led a coup but got bored and handed back the crown. There was a lovely palace but it got burned down....
(DIR) Post #APRZubEIwsqfkVwdFY by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:24:30.075251Z
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@ArtistBristol I never left spinster, but haven't posted lately because my life has been crazy for a few months. I think sexism is "the epitome of drear" and because we talk about it a lot here, some people might mistake that as us being downers. The reality is that venting about this stuff and talking about it honestly is a weight off women's shoulders and a strong foundation for more positive things, like friendship and true support. Yes, it would be better if spinster had more users. But we talk about difficult subjects here sometimes, so the people that stay are the ones that can handle hard conversations. Its important to have spaces like Spinster but I think its ok for women to criticize it, as long as its constructive. Of course, most of what people have to say about platforms like Spinster are not constructive things. Its not really surprising when somewhere that truly is ran by women gets a bad rap for superficial reasons.
(DIR) Post #APRZubdpPzGV1ft128 by Gelatinousrube@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:24:53.999819Z
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@lezpaulguitars @ArtistBristol I love this post. Over the past year I've decided to talk about my life more. It's nice to be uncensored. I know most women here are straight but I'm like fuck it I'm a lesbian doing shit I can talk about it here. And I like that people talk back. I'm trying to make it more social and less constant gloom, though that's part of life too.
(DIR) Post #APRaBjutu5wXcA2e5Q by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:27:58.860152Z
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@Ladyfat @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Meghan didn't even call her an asshole. She said she was behaving like an asshole - tracking her here from other places and trying to insist on some kind of debate or whatever. Then she went around here for an evening asking if she could call some of us assholes. It was very disappointing.I'm not always on board with everything Meghan says or does, but she behaved well within the bounds here and Karen had no reason to try and get her banned.
(DIR) Post #APRaDryKvP7jB2fFlg by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:03:02.920044Z
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat Wow, I feel you on all of this! For me, Spinster was not the first place I found where women could speak freely (sorta) but it's the best place. Spinster is an excellent digital embodiment of a free speech, more or less safe place for women only (almost!). You can't get that anywhere else on the net. On FB and Twit, I'm constantly censored for making truthful remarks. I only go there to see specific links, certain news, talk with a few friends, otherwise, this is my main sm and likely to stay so. Sure we go off on tangents that might only be interesting to a few of us but so what? Women are interested in a great deal of things that don't always relate to the purest radical feminism. I also would like to see more ethnically diverse women here and have suggested it to many women. I HAVE been lucky in meeting in person so many of our wonderful sisters here. I was here from the launch almost as were quite a few of us who are still here so we never really went through a noob feeling. For those women who are new, I'm not sure if they find us welcoming enough or even what is appropriate when new comers join. If I notice in my thread, and the person seems cool, I usually say hi and follow. Anyhow VIVA SPINSTER!!! 💗 💗 💗 :awesome:
(DIR) Post #APRaY2dgyUvs3Hcvlw by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:32:01.337474Z
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@LaylaAlexandrovna @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat Those of us who were here from the beginning made this place what we needed it to be and for the most part it has stayed that way. We don't need mods fixing all of our problems for us. There have been spectacular blowups at times, but mostly we can agree to disagree with each other and move on. For the most part, we are supportive of each other and our right to express ourselves. I wouldn't trade this place for anything.
(DIR) Post #APRajj0lmBa2eVzaG8 by chilady2022@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:42:47.604703Z
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@ArtistBristol I love it here. It's one of the few places where I can be myself.. and no one judges me. I set up a FB page...... but I hardly ever go on there and use it. I have zero friends on it because I just don't care. I am only there for the marketplace. I'm afraid to speak my mind on that platform, as it is heavily monitored and my account could get banned (..again) I love you all.... my sisters. If I didn't have this platform (as a refuge) I think I would be incredibly bored and then I'd end up just sleeping all day (if I wasn't working).
(DIR) Post #APRamxOmjzcw8ulaSW by AnungIkwe@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:51:53.934463Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @ArtistBristol The timeline is hard to navigate and the threads get crossed sometimes. Hilarity ensues.
(DIR) Post #APRap5nqSu6YmrVSqW by ninafromcanadaeh@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:57:08.633110Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @ArtistBristol i do not like that everything is disconnected comments. rather than a thread or forum
(DIR) Post #APRb0ZHBE129NjhQmW by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:32:39.702239Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @Ladyfat @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Meghan's response here to the callout was totally appropriate and surprisingly neutral too. She pretty much laughed it off like whatever and then left the convo. Meghan could've been like "Oh hey'll naw!!!!" and went off, but she didn't.Then Karen had like an obsessive manic episode and made like 5 videos in a row about Meghan. All this really turned me off Karen...I haven't been able to watch her shit ir take her seriously since. Believe people when they show you who they are the first time.
(DIR) Post #APRcLmjEVJrR8hVBFw by BILLSan345@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T14:35:22.495044Z
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@ArtistBristol Thank you Stella for suggesting I sign up, and I'm very grateful. There is enough material here every day that I can cope with and digest and yes, I'd prefer more post-ers but those I follow show me things I wouldn't see elsewhere. The discussions are good, often hilarious as well as enraging, and I can participate if moved to do so. It has been a long battle to be engaged in and I am sorry if the sheer weariness of the struggle has made some retire from the line-up. As long as you for one keep carrying the flag I'll be here.
(DIR) Post #APRcOiFlbEQq817Day by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:50:25.030447Z
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@FeralDandelion @ArtistBristol I never heard "Cyberia" before, I am snitching, just so you know.
(DIR) Post #APRdQQQIxhslMYQPQ0 by LaylaAlexandrovna@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T00:42:56.619978Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat 💗
(DIR) Post #APSQAlS81UFxE3uQ6q by starsstorm@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T09:41:08.125298Z
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@ArtistBristol There’s definitely a sense of community here and I don’t find it particularly difficult to interact with people I disagree with because most of us act like adults and there isn’t a lot of baiting style communication. Additionally, and this is really specific to me, this is the only social media space where I can talk honestly about being a mother without some level of ridicule, which happens even in spaces meant for mothers.
(DIR) Post #APSYNRQ8c1zYUlX9Zw by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T11:42:24.452647Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol @Ismat Yes you’re correct!
(DIR) Post #APWYGpHcGqrv6oEWFk by DollyCat@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T07:57:59.196996Z
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@AnungIkwe @ArtistBristol You snooze you lose. 8 votes is valid :ablobreach:
(DIR) Post #APWYJmspeKNCXE3KAS by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:26:54.738016Z
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@GalacticTurtle @ArtistBristol I have all the original star wars movies on dvd at my parents house and I'm probably going to grab them next time I visit lol
(DIR) Post #APWYJnSzTtISLMyCWm by GalacticTurtle@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:27:26.856437Z
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@lezpaulguitars @ArtistBristol I support this choice!
(DIR) Post #APWYJo25NPMy6DOEEK by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:28:01.135132Z
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@GalacticTurtle @ArtistBristol and then I will force my wife to watch them all with me, mwahahahahaha 😈
(DIR) Post #APWYJoQBvmeTIyfTns by GalacticTurtle@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T23:29:21.275404Z
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@lezpaulguitars @ArtistBristol I did that to some people I was on tour with this year. No regrets. XDSo at least now they understand maybe 5% of what I talk about.
(DIR) Post #APWZ3LdFIlTHKxUGa8 by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T18:59:47.624571Z
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@ninafromcanadaeh @ArtistBristol you nailed what I was trying to say thanks
(DIR) Post #APWZ3MGExmfBHtjPMW by ninafromcanadaeh@spinster.xyz
2022-11-09T19:00:30.479130Z
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@Sherri_Ingrey @ArtistBristol no worries, reducing complexity is my primary skill and naming elephants the second
(DIR) Post #APWa3BPfOahlb6cYi0 by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
2022-11-10T09:42:19.840046Z
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@starsstorm @ArtistBristol Yes, too much of this crap goes on in too many places.I will not stand for it from anyone.
(DIR) Post #APWa8NnCnOrPRM6u6S by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:20:56.632651Z
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@Fullycaffeinated @LaylaAlexandrovna @FemaleIsNotAFeeling @ArtistBristol @Ismat None of you are forgiven for driving @BCLADY off the platform. If your feminism doesn't have a place for baby-eating trans-hamtsers, it's not real feminism.
(DIR) Post #APWaAMi9msuGfJh6oK by polarisera@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:21:18.381334Z
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@Fullycaffeinated None of you are forgiven for driving @BCLADY off the platform. If your feminism doesn't have a place for baby-eating trans-hamsters, it's not real feminism.
(DIR) Post #APWc67SGlf0G6CMlOa by GrumpyOldNurse@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:42:57.339071Z
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@polarisera @Fullycaffeinated @BCLADY At least she left me the keys to the surgery van.😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
(DIR) Post #APWcSHfDUZla8EzVKq by Mynona@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:46:27.532252Z
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@ArtistBristol I relate to the "epitome of drear" one. Since it's a criminal crime to say that women should have a consensus and be invested in their movement, this site is locked in endlessly repeating "women don't have penises" because it's the only thing everyone can effortlessly agree on, without any unpleasant self-reflection and self-work. It's also complicated by the fact that westerners think that it's impossible to criticize someone's life choices without shaming, policing, dictating or whatever else is in the vocabulary of those who get literally murdered by words of the strangers on the internet.
(DIR) Post #APWdIHZh4IzcujCcKW by ArtistBristol@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:56:21.511930Z
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@Mynona Ah, glad someone responded to that comment, well, that was Rex Landy.So like I said, I joined GETTR for the "crack" - the banter, the memes, the contact with people of all politics and none. And to publish my political cartoons to a potential online international audience of about 10M.There's a big Terfy and UK bubble over there, but I connect with anyone who is chatting about the things I'm interested in, which as a political cartoonist, centres on art and politics.I definitely know I couldn't have the same types of conversations here on Spinster!But that doesn't mean I would abandon spinster - to me, it serves a very different, and important, purpose.New platforms are popping up, like this one I'm trying out. As long as we can keep the tru-trans mob out, the more the merrier, I say!The only way to beat Big Tech cancelling us, is to have more, smaller platforms, catering to women AND men who are fighting the juggernaut of trans-ideology.https://genderheretics.xyz/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
(DIR) Post #APWdjJHCqi3S0jRWCW by FeartnTired@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T10:45:26.549892Z
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@GrumpyOldNurse @polarisera @Fullycaffeinated @BCLADY she left a wee tranhamster shaped hole in our world
(DIR) Post #APXRrxGZ31tq3rSTfE by lezpaulguitars@spinster.xyz
2022-11-12T20:15:17.777130Z
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@Gelatinousrube @ArtistBristol I've always been open about being a lesbian on spinster and its really the first place that I was able to talk about that and only find love and support <3