Post APOPZFis8NFHwvXqbo by chiasm@venera.social
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 (DIR) Post #APOMLqRMWSMRuVGnOy by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2022-11-08T11:08:44.901103Z
       
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       okay I don't get itif the opposition wins a majority after this set of electionswhy does the president stay the president?shouldn't the opposition form government and replace them with their own leader?
       
 (DIR) Post #APOMpigHw4j6X6Urmy by chiasm@venera.social
       2022-11-08T11:11:37Z
       
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       that only applies to parliamentary systems, which the US is not.  (assuming you are asking this question seriously... 🤔)
       
 (DIR) Post #APOMpjLlRru4bjtzRA by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2022-11-08T11:14:03.420673Z
       
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       @chiasm yeah I am, I really don't understanddoesn't the opposition having a majority mean they run the place? they can pass legislation as they like, right, given they have a majority?
       
 (DIR) Post #APONe0nspZSlDa1xVw by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2022-11-08T11:22:52Z
       
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       @izaya i don't know about US political system, but if they have separate elections for parliament and separate elections for president, then it's entirely possible to have a president and a parliament that are political opponents. And they will either find a way to cooperate, or keep fighting and blocking each other's actions.
       
 (DIR) Post #APONgvNZSGxjGO7088 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2022-11-08T11:23:48Z
       
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       @izaya it's like playing a coop with someone you hate and there's this "progressing further requires both players" place
       
 (DIR) Post #APONimUdSpwcHbIlbk by chiasm@venera.social
       2022-11-08T11:20:52Z
       
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       nope nope. Officially the US has 3 branches of government--the executive branch run by the president,  the legislative branch that is basically just Congress, and the judicial branch that is the Supreme Court. They were intended to be independent and keep each other under control. . The president is elected every four years. The House is elected every 2 years, and the Senate every 6 years. But the only role they play in the Presidential election was the Jan 6 role of officially certifying who won, after all the states finish counting from the November election.
       
 (DIR) Post #APONimyPg7lPlxEY1Q by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2022-11-08T11:23:58.271343Z
       
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       @chiasm so the president and legislation only have a vague relation?that's a really odd system.
       
 (DIR) Post #APOO0Rk5Lzvt8bx4DI by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2022-11-08T11:27:19.610365Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @izaya producing minority governments is a major weakness of presidential systems, france has the same issue this election cycle, same can also happen in mayor-council systems, like, what fun would it be to have Warsaw mayor be from PO and the council have majority PiS
       
 (DIR) Post #APOOKIMvuhqrrHaSX2 by wizard@xyzzy.link
       2022-11-08T11:30:55.430190Z
       
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       @izaya because the president controls the military, and congress can't out him without a very incriminating legal reason
       
 (DIR) Post #APOP39chHDsnlVLohc by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2022-11-08T11:38:59Z
       
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       @pony @izaya well it makes sure you can't turn everything upside-down overnight :P
       
 (DIR) Post #APOPJ7MzQFYjPTcFfM by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2022-11-08T11:41:54.307997Z
       
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       @wolf480pl @izaya possibly, i mean the big "issue" every muni election cycle here (mayors here are appointed by the council and only council is elected) is that often you get a candidate like Bob Popular who and his party gets like 35% of all votes, far ahead of everyone, but the rest of the council makes a coalition against him and appoints Alice Reasonable from some 14% party, which makes people mad ("almost nobody wanted Alice")
       
 (DIR) Post #APOPZFis8NFHwvXqbo by chiasm@venera.social
       2022-11-08T11:37:55Z
       
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       well, congress passes the budget. the president then implements it. the president can do a lot by executive order unless congress passes a law against it or the Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional. it's not a vague relationship really, it's quite combative.
       
 (DIR) Post #APOPZGF8CR39YydbtI by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2022-11-08T11:44:50.169422Z
       
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       @chiasm so likecongress decides what's happening, and the president decides HOW it's happening?