Post APNbpdoTL5XPabmlLU by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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 (DIR) Post #APMvx2aC3YAqbnceXY by sneeden@freecumextremist.com
       2022-11-07T18:38:16.437260Z
       
       6 likes, 5 repeats
       
       :alert: Queen Greta has joined the fediverse :alert:👇👇👇@gretathunberg
       
 (DIR) Post #APMwDyGJNEA68CObKK by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T18:41:16.401772Z
       
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       @sneeden HOW DARE SHE
       
 (DIR) Post #APMy0upD2crdcBcacy by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-07T19:01:24.073783Z
       
       9 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @sneeden a mastodon instance uses way more cpu and memory compared to a pleroma instance for the same amount of user traffic, which leads to more emissionsi can't believe you're doing this @gretathunberg
       
 (DIR) Post #APN8F01DWkZ9JoamrA by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T20:38:54Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui stop hating on @gretathunberg
       
 (DIR) Post #APN9OJnzQjSbFKPfAO by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:08:43.320737Z
       
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       @bird @hakui I can't even troll her myself because her server blocks me, all I can do is make fun of the policies which led to the massive spike in energy costs in Europe, the reintroduction of burning brown coal in germany (much worse than regular coal), and importing fuel to burn (mostly from russia) because their attempts at discontinuing "fossil" fuels led to a collapse of their national energy sector. I don't hate blindly, it's that the policies she advocates for are unrealistic, unachievable, "solve" a nonexistent "problem", and would destroy and impoverish the world and kill most of the lower classes
       
 (DIR) Post #APN9ibFmGfZj9W56Ui by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:12:25.156771Z
       
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       @bird @hakui It's funny that I never hear her talk about the toxicity of batteries or the very actual pollution of the ocean, or the fact the experts in green energy don't see a possible transition intil 2150
       
 (DIR) Post #APNAKt4WT3A5Q54dXs by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:14:29Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui I didn’t even realise you actually hated her. I saw a lot of hate towards her on Pleroma but we don’t have that many famous environmentalists to stand by. I took the attack in reading with Lain’s mocking of environmentalism as a lack of concern about planet earth
       
 (DIR) Post #APNAKuJRr2h9Gf44Rs by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:19:19.481653Z
       
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       @bird @hakui I see this particular brand of environmentalism as a total disregard for human life and autonomy, it exemplifies a very real hatred for poor people, and the ability to choose. In reality, while western countries are not polluting as much, they are outsourcing their pollution to the developing world. China and india and parts of Asia are the biggest polluters, not the west. Not to mention, they just aren't scientific. They look 1000s of years into the future and ignore the fact nothing they're doing changes anything, and they know it, and everything they do impoverishes the people who are affected by legislators enacting this particular brand of environmentalism. It's a fake, feel-good, but ultimately suicidal/homicidal ideology, which people *already* suffer the consequences of.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNAY2WMeCguURMsam by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:20:35Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui I actually was talking about Hakui when I interrupted your conversation but I’ll have a read of your learned opinion.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNAcZkF41l0gr1Qjg by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:22:36.098872Z
       
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       @bird @hakui I'm sure hakui has an even more educated opinion than I....
       
 (DIR) Post #APNB04Aq60A7iyfEKu by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:23:41Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui so you mean to say that the Pleroma regulars do care about the environment? That’s all that really concerns me here
       
 (DIR) Post #APNB04W6ovAymwcDUO by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:26:41.690924Z
       
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       @bird @hakui what I'm saying is greta thunberg is an mkultra victim programmed to blabber on about things that don't affect the here and now, they never talk about current issues with the environment, only things that are hypothetical and were already predicted would happen by now, but didn't. They ignore very real pollution in the third world among other issues to focus on something that's not even real and may never be.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNB6UXcyUsLEuO372 by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:26:50Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui so you don’t like it because it unfairly blames the west and because it’s not actually effective in the long-term? Honestly I don’t know enough to comment on whether that’s true, but like I trust you
       
 (DIR) Post #APNB6V4wybWwuFyf3I by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:27:57.104042Z
       
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       @bird @hakui No, it's just totally incoherent and implementing these things (getting rid of fossil fuels, going green energy) would kill hundreds of millions
       
 (DIR) Post #APNBJ9rz8uaotMwtKS by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:27:36Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui but why avoid the question? Do you people care about the environment or not?
       
 (DIR) Post #APNBJAKLRTHIJKDXX6 by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:30:12.772973Z
       
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       @bird @hakui I can't speak for anyone else.. I do, but there's nothing I can do to stop industrial pollution or corporate pollution, which is the biggest pollution source. It happens mostly in the third and second world where pollution restrictions don't exist. Like I said, I truly believe cutting fossil fuels NOW will doom hundreds of millions.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNBNE5VOz8r8HDFOC by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:29:37Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui @gretathunberg
       
 (DIR) Post #APNBNEi95K3B47I6cK by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:30:59.945511Z
       
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       @bird @hakui She won't respond, if she does it's probably not even her. I want nothing to do with these hypocritical, incoherent murderers and propagandists
       
 (DIR) Post #APNBYqciT3WDpmHw7E by DrRyanSkelton@mugicha.club
       2022-11-07T21:33:12.837124Z
       
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       It's a real neat trick they pulled, making environmentalism ENTIRELY about carbon from people's cars and not about corporations strip mining or dumping by products or ruining farmland.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNCLMkWKN3vN34dtY by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:35:49Z
       
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       @coyote I’m glad you care. I thought you would. :)
       
 (DIR) Post #APND3i1aaV7i63Caem by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:35:34Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui if we delay cutting back emissions, the effects will be much worse. This is what I learned as well but I wasn’t sure
       
 (DIR) Post #APND3iSsx0xRShyOCe by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:49:41.138785Z
       
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       @bird @hakui Emmissions? That's hundreds of years away, kill people now or MAYBE kill people later based on science that's been revised as many times as it's been wrong. Have someone explain to me why CO2 emissions are only low during ice ages. I bet no one can explain this because it's beyond the grasp of science. To understand a living organism as complex as the earth, and yet we can't hardly understand mice let alone humans, is a failing endeavor at best. Cutting emissions now means destroying the third world and killing hundreds of millions. I've repeatedly explained this, it's not even complicated in terms of the effects:no more oil means:- no freight trains- no over the road trucks- no frieght liners (ships)- no more imports- no more exports- much more expensive flights- much less flying- much less driving- forced energy limits/quotas- forced dark hoursno more exports from the third world means their economies would suffer. no more trucks means traveling farther to get groceries and goods.anyway, prove the graph doesn't just say "co2 levels prevent the coming ice age" I'm not convinced
       
 (DIR) Post #APND40nOnU3uJXi1g0 by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:37:43Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui then why is hakui trying to draw her onto your platform?
       
 (DIR) Post #APND4eZysn61hVjsJc by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:50:00.277881Z
       
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       @bird @hakui hakui is not doing that
       
 (DIR) Post #APNDO6MtmvDROAtSMK by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T21:53:13Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui wanna have a phone call with my papa?
       
 (DIR) Post #APNDO6vzgRHx91JU3s by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:53:34.898667Z
       
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       @bird @hakui not really no
       
 (DIR) Post #APNDQxWb7n90pVnCYC by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T21:54:06.293440Z
       
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       @bird @hakui is he versed in the economy?
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFBu1hRPE9IccPtQ by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-07T22:13:51.533597Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @hakui alright, lets put this argument to bed.the left and right are both cringe and wrong.CO2 isnt the problem, methane, monoxide, sulfur are the main pollutants are.Monoculture and relentless grazing is raping the earth, help and educate farmers to go polyculture.Electric cars, hydro-electric damns, solar & wind farms are an absolute scam.Go for biodiesel instead. Deconstruct dams/weirs to rehabilitate esturaries and seagrass meadows- replace it with river barrel generators instead. Scrap centralised solar/wind farms, let people have the panels and turbines on their roofs instead.De-urbanise and go local. Industrialism and urbanism is no longer sustainable, heavy urban cities require centralised planning to be functional and depends a lot on imports. Produce and consume local. Implement economic minimalism and bring in tiny houses- all nation states are guilty of over-producing and over consuming. We waste our whole lives working away, to pay off mortgages for overly large homes, that require too much cleaning/maintainence. We're always getting ready to live, but never living as Thoreau said.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFFJdEhHcpa8nsC8 by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-07T22:14:29.446627Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @hakui  alright, lets put this argument to bed.the left and right are both cringe and wrong.CO2 isnt the problem, methane, monoxide, sulfur are the main pollutants.Monoculture and relentless grazing is raping the earth, help and educate farmers to go polyculture.Electric cars, hydro-electric damns, solar & wind farms are an absolute scam.Go for biodiesel instead. Deconstruct dams/weirs to rehabilitate esturaries and seagrass meadows- replace it with river barrel generators instead. Scrap centralised solar/wind farms, let people have the panels and turbines on their roofs instead.De-urbanise and go local. Industrialism and urbanism is no longer sustainable, heavy urban cities require centralised planning to be functional and depends a lot on imports. Produce and consume local. Implement economic minimalism and bring in tiny houses- all nation states are guilty of over-producing and over consuming. We waste our whole lives working away, to pay off mortgages for overly large homes, that require too much cleaning/maintainence. We're always getting ready to live, but never living as Thoreau said.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFR5DG8GbEKyGR3Q by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2022-11-07T22:16:35.515265Z
       
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       wait, that server block you? It's obviously a joke account
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFhpqqV11hcKlhrs by sneeden@freecumextremist.com
       2022-11-07T22:19:38.019672Z
       
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       @djsumdog @bird @coyote @hakui https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1589662802477998086
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFi3riOa2Z55HbAO by meowski@fluf.club
       2022-11-07T22:19:39.972222Z
       
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       @djsumdog @bird @coyote @hakui all hell is breaking loose.  universes colliding
       
 (DIR) Post #APNFznAVDH4iVbWcWu by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2022-11-07T22:22:52.444900Z
       
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       I don't know what to believe anymore ... maybe I should go pray
       
 (DIR) Post #APNGcXmqKqyE65w9lw by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-07T22:20:55.276048Z
       
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       @djsumdog @bird @coyote @hakui Very fake indeed: https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1589662802477998086#m
       
 (DIR) Post #APNH2y2PMCgx2hoiRc by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T22:34:28.065257Z
       
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       @lanodan @bird @djsumdog @hakui hmm saw a screencap of her account on twitter linking here, may have been faked
       
 (DIR) Post #APNHKOJQvE1lSG5YvI by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T22:37:44.325952Z
       
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       @cee @bird @hakui hey, real issues and real solutions with real results? get that shit out of here! /s
       
 (DIR) Post #APNHb6kXTPHZuKjq0O by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-07T22:37:07Z
       
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       @coyote @djsumdog @lanodan @hakui check her Twitter. She’s really here
       
 (DIR) Post #APNHcWggWSUIdrc0DQ by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T22:41:00.209874Z
       
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       @bird @djsumdog @lanodan @hakui Yeah that's what I thought, thank you for checking!
       
 (DIR) Post #APNHr1EPl12nQWIcSm by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T22:43:32.352776Z
       
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       @cee @bird @hakui seriously though cee, I can respect this, because it's real issues you're able to fix now, with real benefits and results. I wonder if you could talk some sense into greta, get her to talk about issues like this (probably not, it'd destroy her career)
       
 (DIR) Post #APNIUHu3hqb0QWVFIW by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-07T22:50:47.922800Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @hakui no one is safe from my critiques...not even myself.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNIkQKY8py7CGaWQK by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-07T22:53:42Z
       
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       @lanodan @bird @djsumdog @coyote @hakui Too bad that Mastodon instance seems to be a whitelist only one. I've checked her post on the actual instance and most of the visible replies were calling her out for not being extreme enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNImt6K90V10S6ozY by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T22:54:02.109342Z
       
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       @cee @bird @hakui well idk, I just appreciate it because it's pragmatic, realistic, attainable, and I bet would have results. It's the only honest way to go about it (also, can we clean up the trash island in the Pacific? that's completely depressing)
       
 (DIR) Post #APNJRrOZOIJlaaBG4W by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-07T23:01:34.283979Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @hakui i know there are boats that are able to suck up plastics. One of the other pressing issues is micro-platics, which also tends to suffocate the phytoplankton. An absurd amount of that is actually sourced from washing polyester/acrylic clothes. Something that any individual can do would be to extend the grey water pipe to outside on ur lawn/yard. If ur unable to do that, do away with polyesters completely i suppose.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNKAABmsRJQcQKL1k by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-07T23:09:19.705592Z
       
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       @cee @bird @hakui I didn't know that!!!! Mmm yeah, seems there's a bigger issue at hand of ocean pollution in my opinion, I didn't assume the smaller tinier creatures were also suffering though, I assume that this affects the entire ecosystem...
       
 (DIR) Post #APNSO71MFiEoTpbwoK by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T00:41:45.154243Z
       
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       @coyote @bird it only comes in parables though
       
 (DIR) Post #APNTGS3IH6aTLRQZ3w by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T00:51:33.976971Z
       
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       @bird @coyote ah, so that's what you're really concerned aboutall the stuff about the environment was just a cover, you just didn't want greta switching from mastodon to pleromahilarious
       
 (DIR) Post #APNToVFgsrp57CSlxw by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T00:57:43.338202Z
       
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       @cee @coyote @bird >Implement economic minimalismunfortunately nobody in politics would push for that overtly because it's hugely unpopularmaybe that's why they're trying to covertly destroy the economy with bad policies instead
       
 (DIR) Post #APNUGfXoD9l590Mtc0 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T01:02:48.746870Z
       
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       @cee @coyote @bird my individual desires only include the preservation of the environment on a limited level
       
 (DIR) Post #APNULcgGHlvxi7gTuS by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-08T01:03:41.987961Z
       
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       @hakui @bird @coyote :drake_dislike: politics:drake_like: ontologyI'm a political nihilist anyway so. Gonna be constructing a communty garden/nursery soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNUYaNy871YMDJE1J by sekibanki@eientei.org
       2022-11-08T01:04:46.911099Z
       
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       @cee @bird @coyote @hakui When were you groomed for the first time?
       
 (DIR) Post #APNV83LsQSxSKWF6Ya by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-08T01:12:26.932784Z
       
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       @hakui i like how you used the word preservation as opposed to conservation. niiice. Preserving native vegetation on top of hills and along the waterways is a must, to keep the water flowing in the creeks/rivers year round. Often i see people over-clear the water ways and they are dumbfounded to see floods and droughts.@bird @coyote
       
 (DIR) Post #APNVZZMvUnTNRnr22q by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T01:17:25.873537Z
       
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       @xianc78 @lanodan @bird @djsumdog @coyote it's like quotetweeting her, except with replies!
       
 (DIR) Post #APNVvKbR4ldC1S1ARs by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T01:21:22.170706Z
       
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       @cee @bird @coyote conservation is just "we're still going to do it, just slowly"
       
 (DIR) Post #APNWECncJUZJK2iPs8 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T01:21:15.741767Z
       
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       @xianc78 @bird @djsumdog @coyote @hakui Weird one is that I can't find any info about that on their about page :(Because while accept-lists can be useful… I think it should be transparent, hopefully it is to the logged in users.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNWJg6olgM5flJ2Mi by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T01:25:45.890805Z
       
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       @lanodan @xianc78 @bird @coyote @djsumdog those users deserve it for moving out of twitter only now
       
 (DIR) Post #APNXTjOJWHZ0haqaJM by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T01:38:45Z
       
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       @lanodan @bird @djsumdog @coyote @hakui I think they are trying to hide the existence of instances outside of the "approved" Mastodon instances. Journalists who got dogpilled by Poast and DRCs are now writing hitpieces on why they think fedi is worse than Twitter. It seems like Mastodon.eu doesn't want to make the same mistake.Quite a shame because I'm probably the biggest climate denier on the fedi and having a confrontation with her would've been epic.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNXhJizkAPN9YzzRg by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T01:41:14.475986Z
       
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       @xianc78 @lanodan @bird @djsumdog @coyote >probably the biggest climate denier on the fedioh yeah??? paging @augustus @Duine  climate denial grand prix let's go
       
 (DIR) Post #APNXycjSKNKp1iT0dM by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-08T01:44:09.615783Z
       
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       @cee @bird @hakui hell yeah!!
       
 (DIR) Post #APNYY9fNs23tJ2VMdk by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T01:50:16.940114Z
       
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       @hakui @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @coyote @augustus Oh dog, whatever but please do that in another thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNZW8W5H7O579kwyG by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-08T02:01:30.198106Z
       
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       @lanodan @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @augustus @hakui I AM DENYING THE CLIMATEI DISREGARD IT AND SPIT ON IT
       
 (DIR) Post #APNZil3Roij475NdXk by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T02:03:54Z
       
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       @coyote @augustus @Duine @hakui @djsumdog @lanodan @bird I would do an info dump here but I know landon doesn't want to see it and I already got our instance blocked because of my non-stop conspiracy posting a while back, so I don't want to do that again.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNa4csKuLY77IbuU4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:07:51.835832Z
       
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       @xianc78 @coyote @augustus @Duine @djsumdog @lanodan @bird well just untag him, ez
       
 (DIR) Post #APNa5SbSaKwnY17AOm by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:08:01.288706Z
       
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       @coyote @lanodan @Duine @augustus @bird @djsumdog @xianc78image.png
       
 (DIR) Post #APNaGIqbCILcTZMkIC by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T02:09:27.441717Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @augustus @hakui I just don't really care about arguing about climate, because in the end I can see how it can be compared to "The Sky is Falling!" type of things.I'd rather focus on the massive part of ecology that's about actual current lives and the local environments.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNb8SvJwzODMdOvrM by augustus@shitposter.club
       2022-11-08T01:42:35.545332Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @hakui @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @coyote @lanodan LFG
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbQViwHHNLGHDLPs by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T02:23:00Z
       
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       @augustus @bird @Duine @djsumdog @coyote @hakui Or how about the ultimate redpill, the fact that climate agender pushers are eugenicists? James Corbett has done thorough research on the subject.https://www.corbettreport.com/the-post-carbon-energy-eugenics-hoax/
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbUw40Hz206xB2I4 by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-08T02:23:41.799527Z
       
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       @lanodan @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @augustus @hakui but lanodan, there's no *money* in fixing things
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbXoKpTqFr0gPzEG by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2022-11-08T02:24:20.422356Z
       
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       @xianc78 @augustus @bird @Duine @djsumdog @coyote @hakui TIL poles really like naming people zbigniew
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbmGSbhurcIGwqkS by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T02:26:56Z
       
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       @coyote @augustus @Duine @hakui @djsumdog @lanodan @bird The countries with the freest markets are the most eco-friendly. The best way to do with environmental issues (actual issues not the fake climate stuff) is just through strict enforcement of property rights.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbpdoTL5XPabmlLU by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T02:24:24.093705Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @Duine @djsumdog @xianc78 @augustus @hakui Money is to break things, not fix things.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbvu0y104jZicDgm by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:25:04Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote you're seeing malice where there is ignorance
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbvuWW7hJR9ZNPrk by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:26:52Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote but it's deeply offensive of you to assume that I don't care about the environment. You probably won't even reply to this though, because there's nothing in it for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNbvuvKdRA6OWzEXo by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:27:35Z
       
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       @coyote your friend is an idiot, sorry
       
 (DIR) Post #APNcCkDpg0h27wfEga by tusooa@kazv.moe
       2022-11-08T02:31:43.969255Z
       
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       @lanodan some part of "climate issues" are related to social justice, for example the use of fossil fuels makes poorer people more vulnerable to health problems related to harmful particles inhaled.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNcO01DHnL2Iw80vI by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:33:46.662482Z
       
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       @bird @coyote >don't try to understand my intentionsthen what's the point of engaging with you then lol>it's deeply offensivethat's for you to resolve on your own. go read some marcus aurelius
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdIdBCsAVTyeo4Rs by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:35:40Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote look, you're assuming I'm smarter than I am, but worse in character, and I take pride in my character.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdIdqKPHOs2C2uXo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:44:00.201867Z
       
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       @bird @coyote were you @imurcultleader previously
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdIfAZTVBe9GWajg by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:37:42Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote my dad is an energy efficiency scientist and I learned about global warming young. I think about it all the time. I literally am in the process of opening up a small eco-friendly business. For you to deny my experiences and feelings about this topic makes me really offended
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdIhnzftuSK6z6Se by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:38:28Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote I don't just go around assuming others are shit people or that they don't care about something that everyone SHOULD care about
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdIkRPsIdGUxRcBc by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:39:09Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote I am a fucking human being and you and your friends have repeatedly treated me like an object, for political reasons? Hell if I know.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdSzrbODstE3Zzf6 by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:44:16Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote no shit
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdT0M5YsGqkbqLBI by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:45:53.232633Z
       
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       @bird @coyote oh that explains it lol
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdhuXjSAbp4IOgc4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:48:34.119195Z
       
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       @bird @coyote understandable, people who go through decades of medical school get really mad too when i tell them the covid jabs they put their faith in don't workdoesn't make it any less true tho
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdjvhe6zoPFEzrv6 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T02:48:30.603684Z
       
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       @tusooa Yeah, that's my thoughts as well.And it's not rare to find a pile of harmful side-effects in your local area, like water pollution by abusive agriculture in Brittany creates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmful_algal_blooms that made some historically walkable beaches (ie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Michel-en-Gr%C3%A8ve ) and coast often deadly and typically inhospitable.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdo59stm6ZjFBY7E by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:44:50Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote getting my shop live so you can see it
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdo5apHbej4nn46q by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:46:41Z
       
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       @hakui here's a screenshot of it from my computer. Will even dox myself for this sake
       
 (DIR) Post #APNdo66jMzB0fkiXq4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:49:41.267874Z
       
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       @bird nothing wrong with being passionate about the environment and setting up a shop, the issue is trying to get everyone else to have the same fervor as you
       
 (DIR) Post #APNeFWvBmheHeXOqVU by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:49:56Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote no, please. I have no problem with you being right about how best to improve the environment. The only thing I have a problem with is you painting me as someone petty who would put my past relationships over what's good for people and the environment. You accused me of not caring about the environment at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNeFXylqs6kvw5DjE by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:54:38.889005Z
       
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       @bird @coyote i went back and looked at my post and it was indeed worded as an accusation meant to rile people up. i'll apologize for that
       
 (DIR) Post #APNeFaMazGM0KPFH8q by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:50:45Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote I do not see you or any of Lain's friends as my adversary. I don't want to have wild assumptions thrown at me.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNebKPiy3oZET4oAS by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T02:55:51Z
       
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       @hakui @coyote I appreciate that. Sorry for not understanding your joke about Greta.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNebM8QZLAQZP01U8 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T02:58:35.527605Z
       
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       @bird @coyote with the current influx of twitter refugees i'm throwing out shit tests more, sorry i caught you up in it
       
 (DIR) Post #APNf4XOxl6GnuXeGuW by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-08T03:03:52.047760Z
       
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       @xianc78 @coyote @hakui @djsumdog @lanodan  Climate changes with the shifting of the tectonic plates. We have ice ages, heat waves, mass extinctions... but yet life finds a way to prevail. So what, the problem isnt so much climate, but *pollution*.Everything is your property, but property is responsibility. To paraphrase Stirner- whoever knows how to take, to defend the thing, to care for it, to him belongs property.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNf9SGgGxs3RB7SqW by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T03:02:25Z
       
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       @hakui this is why I never talk about politics. I don't have the stomach for it... but thanks for the kind words
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfBQ6dHYK7JLMA7c by cee@freethinkers.lgbt
       2022-11-08T03:05:07.223174Z
       
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       @xianc78 @hakui  @lanodan  Climate changes with the shifting of the tectonic plates. We have ice ages, heat waves, mass extinctions... but yet life finds a way to prevail. So what, the problem isnt so much climate, but *pollution*.leftoid and rightoid doomers btfo'dEverything is your property, but property is responsibility. To paraphrase Stirner- whoever knows how to take, to defend the thing, to care for it, to him belongs property.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfNID8SgqMIe3kRM by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:07:15.738148Z
       
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       @cee @xianc78 @lanodan the earth doesn't need saving, especially from usthe "doomers" are probably concerned about saving humans from their own destruction instead
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfQ3zxlAVR5bDemu by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T03:07:45Z
       
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       @cee @lanodan @hakui >To paraphrase Stirner- whoever knows how to take, to defend the thing, to care for it, to him belongs property.Governments can use that same logic to defend statism, saying that the land they claim and defend with military force is theirs. It seems like Egoists are statists after all.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfWNzULF2upe0oTI by coyote@pl.lain.sh
       2022-11-08T03:08:48.539303Z
       
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       @hakui @bird thank you hakui, thank you bird....
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfZXEoPwAYNdgIvg by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:09:28.294780Z
       
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       @xianc78 @cee @lanodan p→q doesn't mean q→p
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfd8cxrOzXD7hF2G by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T03:09:17Z
       
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       @coyote @hakui that's ok
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfjqbbGR51LMG1fE by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2022-11-08T03:10:51.255937Z
       
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       @xianc78 @cee @hakui Are you literally trying to throw away a whole ideology with something that's barely a quote?It's like saying you don't like a music style because one band said one line among many that you didn't like.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfjueEEbYjsfWBJg by bird@aus.social
       2022-11-08T03:11:02Z
       
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       @coyote 🥰
       
 (DIR) Post #APNfqlzWok7n3nkh1M by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:12:34.991290Z
       
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       @lanodan @xianc78 @cee you know who else drank water????? that's right, adolph h. hitlergkgkgkgkgkgkgk
       
 (DIR) Post #APNghlVhKwkMur4Gjg by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T03:22:09Z
       
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       @lanodan @cee @hakui Not really. Just their property norms. The Ancap/Voluntaryist norm of mixing labor with unclaimed property is more consistent because the state can't use that logic since most of their land is stolen. The Egoist property norm allows someone to take said property if their offense outranks the previous owner's defense which is what the state does all the time.Max Stirner was an influential person, don't get me wrong, but he seemed to be inconsistent on a lot of things. Not to say the Murray Rothbard, David Friedman, Samuel Konkin III, or Hans Herman Hoppe are/weren't inconsistent on things either.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNgxRzPgM3t0URj04 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:25:00.170373Z
       
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       @xianc78 @lanodan @cee the thing about egoism is that it's just "do what you want", trying to construct a consistent ideology around it is extraneous and binds people from what they really wantit's like how politics are also inconsistent because the core of it is "friend good, enemy bad"
       
 (DIR) Post #APNhA8sY2xBxV6Hr3w by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T03:27:16Z
       
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       @lanodan @cee @hakui But to be fair, Max Stirner actually never claimed to be an anarchist, contrary to popular belief. His philosophy did influence a bunch of anarchist writings though.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNhNiG1owgIzSjyvA by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:29:45.002653Z
       
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       @xianc78 @lanodan @cee anarchy is not the end goal of egoism thoughpeople can find that they want to participate in a society and it won't be a problem if that's what they really want
       
 (DIR) Post #APNi5mMXv3CYSonlNQ by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2022-11-08T03:37:42Z
       
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       @hakui @cee @lanodan That sounds more like Panarchism (opt-in/opt-out governments and societies) which is what I identify more with.https://www.panarchy.org/depuydt/1860.eng.html
       
 (DIR) Post #APNiKfZZRj3BkUzhK4 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T03:40:24.504163Z
       
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       @xianc78 @cee @lanodan it's like you're still trying to find a software license that works for you while egoists are already on the WTFPL
       
 (DIR) Post #APOBQXRPUPtSwBKNt2 by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
       2022-11-08T09:05:40.627918Z
       
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       @augustus @hakui @Duine @bird @coyote @djsumdog @lanodan @xianc78 New ice age soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #APObYNqNeZcGITPPzE by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
       2022-11-08T13:59:00.423495Z
       
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       @coyote @bird @hakui >Have someone explain to me why CO2 emissions are only low during ice agesMaybe because most of life that emits CO2 on these phase gets frozen and thus don't emit ?>no more oil means:-No more plasticNote: that this will be a mass positive in terms of human health.-Possibly nuclear vehicles.Note: one can dream.>- no over the road trucksCan we have trains then ? :^)> much less flyingNo more 9/11>- no frieght liners (ships)Pic related the meme makes itself :kekw: they planned to have ships powered with WIND, such a revolutionary technology of the 1600s>- no more imports>- no more exportsMore importantly: no more immigration.>- forced energy limits/quotasThey'll do it even if there isn't an issue.>- forced dark hoursIsn't that called sleeping ?>- no freight trainsFreight trains in france are D.E.A.D. Almost no usage of them. Even better, the SNCF actually uses trucks to transport train parts instead of their own logistic to be able to declare expenses and pay less taxes.>no more exports from the third world means their economies would suffer.Lmao :benis_dance: >no more trucks means traveling farther to get groceries and goods.Doesn't that also mean people would have to consume local products ?
       
 (DIR) Post #APObeZaMuWySS0s3LE by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2022-11-08T14:00:16.613275Z
       
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       @mangeurdenuage @coyote @bird wtf i support the collapse now