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(DIR) Post #APMTo7zllXzy4YXz3w by joshtpm@journa.host
2022-11-07T12:35:39Z
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So two questions I have about the Mastodon migration. We're about to learn how much highly watched accounts drive Twitter's broader audience. Here's what I mean. I am stunned at how many people I know have already set up Mastodon accounts in the last 48 hrs. Like it seems like almost everyone I know has set one up. Probably I'm not going to notice a lot who haven't yet. I'm mainly reacting to how many I see. But still, it's a huge number.
(DIR) Post #APMTo8lGuvzoRslv6W by joshtpm@journa.host
2022-11-07T12:38:18Z
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2/ The people I'm talking about tend to be very high follower accounts - at least in the news/politics space. But on their own they account for a minuscule number of accounts. A few hundred people. Totally meaningless in terms of Twitters scale. So we're about to see whether it just doesn't matter at all, or whether that small number of high profile accounts pulls over a big chunk of audience or whether no one cares and it's just a few hundred people talking to each other. I don't know.
(DIR) Post #APMTo9RoMm1WZoftPU by joshtpm@journa.host
2022-11-07T12:41:20Z
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3/ The other issue is journo/news/politics Twitter is just one thing and not terribly large. I'm always fascinated by how many Twitters there are. Virology twitter, History Twitter, Black Twitter, Tech Twitter, Comics Twitter. There are whole ecosystems of Twitter. And I have zero idea whether anything comparable is happening in those ecosystems. I'm curious to find out the answers to both.
(DIR) Post #APMToA328NnWRG5cQa by joshtpm@journa.host
2022-11-07T12:47:42Z
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4/ Realize I didn't properly explain the three options about a) It's just all the people I know congregating here but that's it. No broader migration. b) migration of high profile accounts spurs mass migration. c) high profile accounts migrate, no one cares and high profile accounts return to Twitter to a chorus of sad trombones.
(DIR) Post #APMToAWSMzKjuVr7I0 by drmakimber@mathstodon.xyz
2022-11-07T12:58:29Z
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@joshtpm I’ve seen enough migrations of people I used to follow on Twitter, just this weekend, that I suspect I will favour staying on mastodon. If c) happens then I will happily delete Twitter as long as there is a critical mass of interesting content here for me. It already feels quite different today from when I created my account just over a week ago
(DIR) Post #APMToAwgnSJjDs84B6 by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-11-07T13:22:47.261286Z
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we on the mastodon network have seen numerous migrations before. I don't expect this one to last either. they always go back, because the addictive characteristic of the twitter discovery algorithm is not present here, and the network is designed to frustrate any attempts at building clout.
(DIR) Post #APMTyUXIoYHqsTApSi by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2022-11-07T13:24:49.623900Z
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@fluffy @drmakimber @joshtpm Just makes getting that 50+ reaction poast all the sweeter.
(DIR) Post #APMVOpWdV15jSRz8K0 by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-07T13:40:46.479735Z
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@fluffy @joshtpm @drmakimber you forget one aspect, me. All of the twitter users will stay here for my heart warming racism, crass humor, and savant level understanding of financial and economic markets rendering anyone with retarded views defenseless. At least that's what my dog tells me and she's my drug dealer so I go with whatever she says
(DIR) Post #APMaix4fdqRuQuJoP2 by Senator_Armstrong@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-07T14:40:26.460827Z
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@Soy_Magnus @fluffy @drmakimber @joshtpm Musk is a zog regime sycophant anyway so the people bailing on twitter over his moderation just seems hilarious to us.
(DIR) Post #APMgnNZ5gvoVTY2dwe by acm_redfox@mastodon.cloud
2022-11-07T14:19:44Z
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@fluffy @joshtpm @drmakimber ugh, if that's the case, let them go! I've always used the website, follow a real timeline, never get into promoted topics. so this should be perfect!!
(DIR) Post #APMnZv4ozwJd2GPdk8 by alexwinter@mastodon.social
2022-11-07T14:59:50Z
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@joshtpm Twitter came up and grew at a time when a lot of people who were previously tech-averse discovered the benefits of being active in an online community. I'm hopeful that the migration here is a sign that people are both more tech-savvy and less willing to accept a toxic community. What Musk doesn't, in his bones, understand is that the community on a platform like these, is the boss, not the consumer. And his hubristic takeover made that point clear to many people.
(DIR) Post #APNVw7Hc5FtF0A7Wr2 by mosheroperandi@towns.gay
2022-11-07T18:04:54Z
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@joshtpm Glad to see you posting here! Didn't even realize you made the jump until this popped up in my feed.If you drop your fediverse "@joshtpm" handle in your Twitter bio, automatic migration tools can help folks find and follow you.
(DIR) Post #APNVw7gQazjuF7jLX6 by inklings@mastodon.world
2022-11-07T22:12:43Z
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@mosheroperandi @joshtpm good point. Using a full name helps people find / identity you.
(DIR) Post #APNVw88mtYQNf4zzjk by mosheroperandi@towns.gay
2022-11-07T22:20:21Z
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@inklings @joshtpm That reminds me, it's time do do my daily run of https://pruvisto.org/debirdify/The number of my follows with fediverse addresses in their bios growing every day!
(DIR) Post #APNVw8YfLL7mxL6f4a by joshtpm@journa.host
2022-11-08T00:24:54Z
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@mosheroperandi @inklings yes, I put the address in my twitter bio yesterday on your suggestion
(DIR) Post #APNVw8ue1cho3VODKa by inklings@mastodon.world
2022-11-08T01:21:27Z
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@joshtpm @mosheroperandi Well done.
(DIR) Post #APOEVHAzglZ3nsbG9w by Lustyjustice@mastodon.social
2022-11-08T03:47:00Z
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@drmakimber @joshtpm @fluffy speaking as someone who took part in two of those migrations (across different accounts) i didn't put down roots then like i am now (curating lists, actually learning the features, trying out different 3rd party apps, etc.) nor did anyone else i was following. i'm not yet seeing some of the smaller niche comms migrating on the same scale, but if twitter continues its decline... i think they will.
(DIR) Post #APOEVHiJgsDfTEBs6C by Lustyjustice@mastodon.social
2022-11-08T03:59:09Z
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@drmakimber @joshtpm @fluffy i mean, fear of the destruction of the algo is one reason people are leaving lol if they ruin the algo beyond usefulness, what's the fucking point. if twit becomes even more bogged down by ads, pushes more irrelevant crap onto my feed, makes it harder to interact with people i'm following, AND a nice chunk of news/politics twit shears off and comes here, which may change the discourse around trending topics? lol byeee
(DIR) Post #APOEVI64GZDaetIq7U by Lustyjustice@mastodon.social
2022-11-08T04:01:25Z
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@drmakimber @joshtpm @fluffy plenty of people don't use the algo-driven timeline anyway. they brought back the chronological/'latest' timeline bc people demanded it back & kept finding ways to make it happen anyway lmfaoo that doesn't mean their tl was untouched by the algo, but there's clearly a userbase there that prefers a feed that's not so algo-driven?
(DIR) Post #APOEbiPfKvNa0vX6vI by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2022-11-08T09:41:59.812486Z
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can you share which lists you're looking at? I would like to add some new people too
(DIR) Post #APOFIiZmbbYwyKlppI by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2022-11-07T13:33:14.887133Z
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@joshtpm What you have to understand is there's no discovery algorithm at all. You see all posts in a selected scope: follows, local instance, or everything that your instance federates with.Unless you make quality content that your audience actually want to specifically seek out and subscribe to, you won't get follows. That or posting extremely frequently to be ubiquitous on the federated timeline but that's probably what your journalism is about.Saying controversial stuff will get you interactions from the people who disagree with you but that will never increase your visibility passively.There's already a name for the kind of journalist that understands that and knows how to behave here: a blogger.
(DIR) Post #APOYrsQDtBwklymGWW by Bhawthorne@mastodon.cloud
2022-11-08T12:39:17Z
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@Lustyjustice @joshtpm @drmakimber @fluffy I first came to the fediverse when Google+ was killed, but that diaspora mostly went elsewhere (including Twitter). This time feels very different, in part because of the maturation of mastodon apps over the intervening period.