Post APMSu9cOXpUItCvJs8 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
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 (DIR) Post #APMSAVP5DPIr8OvjDk by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T13:02:39Z
       
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       Let's start #IETF115 proper (after the hackathon this week-end). Fist, the GAIA group (universal Internet connectivity).Jared Mauch presents how he got connectivity in his own house in the USA... where it is more difficult than it seems.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMSu9cOXpUItCvJs8 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T13:12:11Z
       
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       The maps of the area were not even correct. Even the FCC (the regulator) maps.Time to indicate cables in #OpenStreetMap :-)
       
 (DIR) Post #APMTuVBoRXKlkIDgAq by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T13:23:55Z
       
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       "The backup DHCP server is a Raspberry Pi 4"#DiY
       
 (DIR) Post #APMVzswbkbhgmAnoCu by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T13:46:58Z
       
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       Presentation of the Isizwe access service in South-Africa (free Wifi in poor neighbouroods).Among the benefits: "it reduces petty crime" (technosolutionism?)
       
 (DIR) Post #APMaJ9sJQVSwbXErdw by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T14:14:30Z
       
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       Now, discussion at #IETF115 (GAIA group) about the development of a definition of neutrality for exchange points. Most exchange points claim to be neutral. But what does it really mean? https://neutral-inter.net/
       
 (DIR) Post #APMf0e1NcQmkN0THnc by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T15:28:04Z
       
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       Another Research Group (not an #IETF Working Group), DIN, Decentralized Internet, at #IETF115. Blockchain, here we come :-)
       
 (DIR) Post #APMfZHRrXIg8UsNFei by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T15:32:05Z
       
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       People note: The co-chair is Internet legend Lixia Zhang, the first woman to join #IETF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lixia_Zhang
       
 (DIR) Post #APMh92BRrptBX8JE36 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T15:51:54Z
       
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       Everything starts with terminology: Mark McFadden on the terminology of centralisation. (Everyone is against centralisation / consolidation but it does not mean the same thing for every one. There is the economic consolidation, traffic consolidation (flattening of the Internet), and several others...
       
 (DIR) Post #APMiRJNEnFZ80x6PuC by shane_kerr@fosstodon.org
       2022-11-07T15:57:47Z
       
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       @bortzmeyerPlease tell me you are kidding about blockchain. Please.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMkFlpfMKwii61ZAm by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T16:23:58Z
       
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       Now, @jens about Web centralisation at #IETF115. For instance, even if the Web is decentralised, authentication is often not ("Connect with Google"). We need decentralised auth . (cryptography?)Also, HTTP as a protocol as some features that make decentralisation difficult. POST is a poor UPDATE, too tied to the representation of the data.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMkebHBkAPND7jmEq by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T16:30:52Z
       
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       @shane_kerr Actually, I was the only one mentioning it during the meeting. But I remember previous DINrg meetings where routing-over-blockchain was discussed.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMmY2w2i4KYsHqiH2 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T16:48:35Z
       
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       Now, PoA (Power of Attorney):  a digital document to delegate your powers to someone. It allows scalability while keeping power in the hand of users.PoA can be subdelegated.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMnZIwgljEOm2Jbn6 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T16:52:52Z
       
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       "The future work is to make a #Docker image."#DockerEverywhere #ResistsanceIsFutile
       
 (DIR) Post #APMqyvrNWUFgZBk8fI by cquest@amicale.net
       2022-11-07T17:12:16Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer #Docker  ? C'est vous qui voyez... (vous connaissez la suite)https://dso.docker.com/explore
       
 (DIR) Post #APMrDxkWmQYAlphpNg by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T17:29:29Z
       
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       @shane_kerr Apparently, Mallory Knodel remembers that as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMswZZPcnCmlVLHkm by ijatz_La_Hojita@mastodon.social
       2022-11-07T17:46:07Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer @jens It seems that mechanisms based on "Zero-knowledge proof" are very promising, to allow authentication without any server ever getting hold on our personal data.https://keyless.io/blog/post/how-keyless-uses-zero-knowledge-proofs-to-protect-your-biometric-data#privacy #surveillancecapitalism #zeroknowledgeproof
       
 (DIR) Post #APMwagEYZJMosUP54S by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T18:42:49Z
       
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       @ijatz_La_Hojita @jens As I said at the mike, the problem with cryptography-based authentication is that most users will have trouble managing the private key (and there is no recourse).
       
 (DIR) Post #APMxtSMWSzPBJQe9lw by ijatz_La_Hojita@mastodon.social
       2022-11-07T18:10:25Z
       
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       @shane_kerr @bortzmeyer Mmhhh, would the concept of "blockchain" be a blasphemy? All the blockchain devs I know are fierce FOSS builders and promoters, and usually not "blockchain maximalists". We could try to approach that as a technology that, in some cases, can fit our needs 🙂.
       
 (DIR) Post #APMxtSzs6gsfHT3a6a by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-07T18:57:35Z
       
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       @ijatz_La_Hojita @shane_kerr I agree. It is a cool technology and, for some use cases it is useful. But it is often sold as solving every problem ("Web3").
       
 (DIR) Post #APMztSnH3usYYiI4pc by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
       2022-11-07T19:10:31Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer @ijatz_La_Hojita The thing is, I can't disagree with that whatsoever. But - and this isn't punting on that, but rather raising this as an open issue - this is to some degree a UX issue, not a technical one.I don't think from a tech perspective it's right to state that getting the UX right is impossible. Take "paper keys", for example. They're a way of making such things approachable. Not the final word, I'm sure, but a direction.
       
 (DIR) Post #APN1IVSeNkBW1d9JTc by ijatz_La_Hojita@mastodon.social
       2022-11-07T19:27:10Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer It reminds me the "dPoS", delegated Proof-of-Stake consensus mechanism, that several blockchain based social networks run on ("Hive", for instance). We vote to choose the nodes that are in charge of the transactions.
       
 (DIR) Post #APNQbz80C8TU9ACqCe by futureidentity@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2022-11-08T00:21:43Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer IMO all this does is multiply identity assurance problems by authorization problems. I remember arguments about Idemix and “Mandantenfähigkeit” more than a decade ago… Does it turn out that there was a simple technical solution all along? ;^,