Post APLsrnibOsLq2UPClM by dommymommy@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #APLsUOj89TcBrwUddY by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:24:42.561067Z
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on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being “holy shit do you have any capacity of thinking in the longterm,” how bad of an idea would it be to have a server run arch?
(DIR) Post #APLscxpBXky92UPTIO by anemone@akko.anemoneya.me
2022-11-07T06:26:20.940819Z
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@dommymommy 11 but worth it
(DIR) Post #APLshALQw5Fh1nUteq by koakuma@uwu.social
2022-11-07T06:26:51Z
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@dommymommy I have seen people running servers on such beautiful operating systems like BSD -current or Gentoo so why not? :02lurk:
(DIR) Post #APLsrnibOsLq2UPClM by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:29:00.082567Z
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@anemone I just love pacman too much, I can’t bear to switch to something with another package manager
(DIR) Post #APLsteLBEmwlX9Kcim by ssailor67@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:28:56.959133Z
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Considering how Arch's GNOME maintainer went AWOL for so long that Ubuntu was shipping a newer version as of last month? Probably like a 7. 10 if the server has Internet facing services on your home LAN or you're using it at work.
(DIR) Post #APLsucdh35PGXwSFuK by anemone@akko.anemoneya.me
2022-11-07T06:29:32.382300Z
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@dommymommy yeah i use ubuntu but i hate apt its annoying
(DIR) Post #APLt0KfilPMwYk7sDQ by anemone@akko.anemoneya.me
2022-11-07T06:30:34.379153Z
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@dommymommy on the plus side its been running for like 10 years of updates now because debian is that stable
(DIR) Post #APLt2OU7Yg94xpgPuC by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:30:54.433675Z
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@ssailor67 holy hell! how did that not get fixed sooner? :tiredcat:
(DIR) Post #APLt4sr9bo4djrdzBg by Eldeberen@social.middleearth.fr
2022-11-07T06:31:05.173910Z
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@dommymommy 3. The server that runs this instance is an archlinux, I never had any issue from the distro.Still, I manage only 2 servers so I can take time to do it properly. I don't think you can do the same on a +500 server farm x)
(DIR) Post #APLt9JpDHWvCXTqoqG by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:32:10.213700Z
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@Eldeberen oh interesting! why’d you give it a 3 instead of a 1, though?
(DIR) Post #APLtIqHHzZwnnPWZW4 by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:33:52.861339Z
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@anemone I was trying out debian and apt was running me up the wall insane. I hate how it works
(DIR) Post #APLtKVDzErVT4zltAW by Eldeberen@social.middleearth.fr
2022-11-07T06:33:54.730844Z
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@dommymommy Whatever the distro I wouldn't put less than 3. Even most stable distro are crap when it comes time to upgrade them.
(DIR) Post #APLtThbmZ7E05rHwOW by dommymommy@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:35:51.231856Z
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@Eldeberen lol, I was asking my initial question so someone could persuade me out of it, but I hate that I’m a little convinced with your success and relatively low rating
(DIR) Post #APLtVxITCsxjKVKUjI by Eldeberen@social.middleearth.fr
2022-11-07T06:36:00.068259Z
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@dommymommy @anemone I would give Debian a 5
(DIR) Post #APLtbwOfSxMUHA5BOi by Eldeberen@social.middleearth.fr
2022-11-07T06:37:02.406483Z
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@dommymommy Talk to @breizh then. His server runs for about 5 years on the same Archlinux IIRC :p
(DIR) Post #APLuQ6kVFcjerUDXCy by ssailor67@shitposter.club
2022-11-07T06:39:48.607280Z
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@dommymommy because Arch is an ☆•°•♡OPEN SOURCE INTERNET COMMUNITY PROJECT♡•°•☆ which means it's basically a few core maintainers cat herding a bunch of driveby contributors. There's no penalty for not shipping so sometimes they don't. Also yes, apt/dpkg is literally 15+ years older than pacman so it has lots of warts. Try Almalinux or Rocky Linux (new RHEL rebuilds since CentOS got whacked), or try Alpine, which is very comfy if you don't need third party binaries. :cirnoHi:
(DIR) Post #APMUDqMDxv5StnJQMi by breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm
2022-11-07T08:36:16.288371Z
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@dommymommy Yep. I’d rate it to -2 :yay:The rolling model permit to only make small upgrades regulary instead of a major upgrade every now and then. But like @Eldeberen was saying, it’s ok when you have some servers. If you have a lot of them (like, in a professional use), then I prefer Debian, so you can simply use unattended upgrades for the regular small updates, and schedule the big update in a staggered way for the different servers, where Arch has to do everything pretty much at the same time, and quickly, even if it’s smaller, and it can’t really be automated (because that there may be updates that require manual intervention at any time). And to talk about my server, recently I even managed to fix it after a disk crash that caused the loss of some critical parts of the system (like, the pacman database). I have a picture for that.
(DIR) Post #APMUEA22oepRv01agi by breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm
2022-11-07T08:40:33.397820Z
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@Eldeberen @dommymommy (so in the end, it’s up to you. I had some compatibility problems on Arch because it was “too new” for some softwares, but I had the same on Debian because it was “too old”, so… The ideal is to experiment and see what you are most comfortable with. Personally I manage both Arch and Debian servers on a daily basis.
(DIR) Post #APOzkFP3G9yUUdoeum by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2022-11-08T18:24:48.175996Z
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@dommymommy I wouldn't use lfs for production, except for some very rare corner case so arch...1, install :gentoo: for 10.