Post APKjqb9dX9kQ2ORUdk by el_jefe@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #APKjqaf9MVMSVqB97Y by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T11:07:02Z
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outdoor weather sensor (request for advice)I would like to get an outdoor weather sensor. Requirements: temperature, pressure, humidity, no wind sensor is needed (this is for a balcony in an apartment building, so wind sensor would measure only some irrelevant turbulence anyway) no need for graphic display wireless connected ideally “readable” by some smartphone app, possibly integrated with home assistant, or some such cheap - this is a hobby interest, not something to waste money on reasonably accurate, but again, this is not a pro app HW-wise ideally should work out of the box, no HW tinkering - some minor SW tinkering would be OK-ishAny advice what devices I should look for?@piggo ?
(DIR) Post #APKjqb9dX9kQ2ORUdk by el_jefe@qoto.org
2022-11-06T11:16:43Z
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@FailForward @piggo I recently got the Neatamo Weather Station. $180 on Amazon. Comes with two cylinder-shaped units; one for inside the other smaller one goes outside. App is really good
(DIR) Post #APKjqbYo1ZsfISDas4 by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T11:22:18Z
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@el_jefeOK maybe I should clarify 🙂 : cheap == dirty cheap “readable” - ideally using some very easy to parse protocol - e.g., some thing just broadcasting openly readable packets into the network, or something like that@piggo
(DIR) Post #APKjqbz2S2reboUXlA by piggo@piggo.space
2022-11-06T17:13:11.585461Z
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@FailForward @el_jefe I'm interested in building this as well, so far I didn't do anything in that direction lolBut I think anything DIY will be more expensive but also more work than just buying it. I'm particularly worried about power, you probably want solar and battery and it must survive hard frosts as well as extreme summer heat and many heat cycles. Plus, water proofing. It's not easy to diy. As far as wireless goes, if you don't need real time data, it should be doable with something like lora. Wi-fi is probably too power hungry and doesn't pass well through metalized windows. Or, you could use irda if it's just about going through the window
(DIR) Post #APKkv7RzV2q1JYkNns by piggo@piggo.space
2022-11-06T17:25:14.754065Z
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@FailForward @el_jefe for the record I currently monitor outdoor temperature with a simple DS18B20 stuck through a window. It works, but isn't accurate in summer when the whole wall of the building is heated up by sun
(DIR) Post #APKqy8Bbou4UBqu6oi by nat@ferrus.net
2022-11-06T18:23:51Z
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@FailForward @piggo I've been using the Ruuvitag for this. I don't know if I'd call 30 euros cheap, but it works immediately out of the box and leaves open plenty of opportunity for tinkering later.
(DIR) Post #APKrH3GoK2CyRfMKHI by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2022-11-06T18:36:26Z
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@FailForward @piggo Looks like someone reverse-engeered the protocol for some of the android-app-coupled weather stations:https://github.com/matjon/em3371-controllerI've seen weather stations using that protocol available on the Polish auction site for $25-$50 (125-200 PLN) so it's not quite cheap, and I have no idea what the avialability and pricing is in your country.Also, I have no idea how well that RE software works.
(DIR) Post #APKrRg5aqfnljiBAmm by piggo@piggo.space
2022-11-06T18:38:22.812776Z
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@wolf480pl @FailForward this is similar to how you can connect some older tp-link smark plugs to HA, someone cracked the LAN protocol lolit actually worked great before they changed the firmware in newer version
(DIR) Post #APKreTjO6hovAltePQ by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2022-11-06T18:40:34.514894Z
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@piggo @FailForward @el_jefe we bought this thing and it's actually surviving on few AAA cells for more than a year nowhttps://www.alza.cz/gogen-me-3900-d5695642.htm
(DIR) Post #APKtsS2HPHZLsSWWRs by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T19:01:21Z
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@pony Thanks, good tip. Though at that price range, I can probably already get used Vantage Vue, which is like second best after Vantage Pro 2 - the top in this class. I was thinking more at the bottom of the barrel side of things 😄@piggo @el_jefe
(DIR) Post #APKtsSPK1c071vIvMe by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2022-11-06T19:05:32.388108Z
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@FailForward @piggo @el_jefe yeah, problem is that when you go much lower, you start really losing features, i absolutely wanted to have the data exported/available on an IP network, that seemed to set the price floor quite high already
(DIR) Post #APKuUYXTfzz33DHn0K by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T19:09:21Z
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@pony I see. And that thing you mentioned speaks some open protocol? Because if there is some semi-standardised protocol around these things and I know the name of the protocol, maybe it will be easier to scrape the bottom of the barrel 🙂 using Google - it’s already 90% of the answer if you know how the thing you are looking for is calles.@piggo @el_jefe
(DIR) Post #APKuUYxi6Sy2MZYjtQ by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2022-11-06T19:12:27.206746Z
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@FailForward @piggo @el_jefe actually i don't know, i use some website (ecowitt.net) it told me to and it's actually pretty good, so i haven't cared much about alternatives, but i don't think it'd be too difficult to do something else, it doesn't seem that interested in keeping the data from you
(DIR) Post #APKua5QwnnZ4WHruwi by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T19:07:09Z
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@pony Also, actually I really don’t want the anemometer (wind sensor) as it is always bulky (though there are static versions using ultrasound sensors) and measures only crap on a balcony. I’d need to put it on the roof to be anyhow useful.@piggo @el_jefe
(DIR) Post #APKua5v4zlfS1jxyue by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2022-11-06T19:13:18.696398Z
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@FailForward @piggo @el_jefe yeah wind measurements are garbo (we have it covered with a house on one side), but i don't think that's a large part of the cost anyway
(DIR) Post #APKv1JzMnK4pTqxEwq by piggo@piggo.space
2022-11-06T19:18:25.196162Z
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@pony @FailForward @el_jefe wind measurements are actually useful, at least to me, you want to detect abnormally high wind speed to warn you to close windows or clear out stuff on the balcony. wind direction is another thing though yeah thats gonna be utterly useless
(DIR) Post #APKvApgeJLfkOejcga by FailForward@qoto.org
2022-11-06T19:18:31Z
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@pony It’s bulky, that’s my problem. I don’t want anything protruding more than 2-3cm from the wall. Firstly, I don’t care as I said, secondly, it takes space, fourth, I am sure I would just rip it off or break eventually by some stupid move around, and fifth I live at a place where we do have pretty strong winds few times a year, so if badly installed (which is almost a given with my DYI skills), the thing would just fly off the wall eventually.@piggo @el_jefe
(DIR) Post #APKvAq4krixFbQ0sG8 by piggo@piggo.space
2022-11-06T19:20:07.799335Z
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@FailForward @pony @el_jefe lol reminds me how my bird feeder fell from the 5th floor and hit a bench on the street (bench came out unharmed, the feeder needed some fixing but still works). luckily, nobody was sitting on the bench