Post APKXNfRlITpfVCMIeO by BetaBoyTV@lor.sh
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(DIR) Post #APKXNfRlITpfVCMIeO by BetaBoyTV@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:04:37Z
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Looking for clarification on something. I am definitely one of the new people from #twitter #twittermigration and I came here because someone shared a screenshot of @Gargron displaying exceptional leadership and anti-fascism. However, after being here for about a day and poking around I saw there are a not-small amount of very toxic/bigoted individuals trolling other accounts. Ok, fine, that happens… but when I check their accounts, it seems like some of these people act like this without consequence. Then I decide to check something. I search for the hard N-word in the search bar. Surprisingly, there seems to be a lot of posts made with that word (including other words like r*pe) and some posts have been up for months and their posters are still active on the platform. - Does decentralized instances and moderation mean servers may exist on the Mastodon platform that are free use these words and it’s up to the user to block those instances?- If not, if I see a user who is currently active and has been posting the N-word (hard -ER) for months, does that mean no one has reported them?I’m asking these questions sincerely so I understand what sort of environment this is.#newbie #question #mastodon #fediverse
(DIR) Post #APKXNfrHlaFUmMIgQy by dump_stack@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:53:31Z
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@BetaBoyTV, we have open network based on ActivityPub protocol. There is no such thing as leader. There are a lot of different software implementations of ActivityPub, such as Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey et cetera. We use Mastodon with our own patches (e.g. character limits). Each instance (e.g. lor.sh, or mastodon.social) has it's own set of rules. When you report something, admins of your instance receives it, but also you have an option to notice other instance. We can only perform actions on our side, but we have no control of other servers. If other server doesn't care, then you can just ban the user by yourself, or ban the whole other instance. The same actions can be done on the server level. I don't believe that I have a right to choose for other people, so we don't ban instances on the server level. However, we do limit/ban users in case of spam and similar issues.
(DIR) Post #APKXNgs20IRJuxenEe by BetaBoyTV@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:09:02Z
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This post is the sort of stuff that worries me. Is this the expectation for people and admins to track instances that allow overt bigotry and hatred and continuously block instances?https://coales.co/@msh/109296065643036561
(DIR) Post #APKXQrINhTyd7RUbWC by Shino@poa.st
2022-11-06T14:54:08.560211Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Go back to twitter you pathetic faggot
(DIR) Post #APKXbyGQ8GnfussGcS by dump_stack@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:56:07Z
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@BetaBoyTV, we have open network based on ActivityPub protocol. There is no such thing as leader. There are a lot of different software implementations of ActivityPub, such as Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey et cetera. We use Mastodon with our own patches (e.g. character limits). Each instance (e.g. lor.sh, or mastodon.social) has it's own set of rules. When you report something, admins of your instance receives it, but also you have an option to notice other instance. We can only perform actions on our side, but we have no control of other servers. If other server doesn't care, then you can just ban the user by yourself, or ban the whole other instance. The same actions can be done on the server level. I don't believe that I have a right to choose for other people, so we don't ban (only limit interactions and images cache) instances on the server level. However, we do limit/ban users in case of spam and similar issues.
(DIR) Post #APKYOWaLpTESGLLgZs by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-06T15:04:50.833645Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron "I saw there are a not-small amount of very toxic/bigoted individuals trolling other accounts. Ok, fine, that happens… but when I check their accounts, it seems like some of these people act like this without consequence."I know, what is this mysterious, scary concept called "free speech" I'm just now hearing about?#FuckNiggers
(DIR) Post #APKYVU0pnFVcJI3QC8 by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:24:47Z
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@BetaBoyTV > Does decentralized instances and moderation mean servers may exist on the Mastodon platform that are free use these words and it’s up to the user to block those instances?Yes. But instance admins could also block entire remote instance if they want. Although it will be harmful for the Fediverse which should be considered.> If not, if I see a user who is currently active and has been posting the N-word (hard -ER) for months, does that mean no one has reported them?No. It could be for several reasons.For example:- They were reported, but nor your local administration nor remote didn't think that they should take the action.- They weren't reported- Report wasn't processed yetThis isn't a complete list of possible options.Fediverse is a decentralized network. Ability to communicate between server is what makes it unique and free from corporate influence.That's why at least part of people administering their servers are not too quick to ban anyone right away."Trolling", "morality", "bigotry" and such things could be different depending on who talks about them.So server admins should be very careful about who to block. Otherwise even totally conscientious users could be banned using report spam.That's why it's preferable if user decides to "Mute" or "Block" themself those who they considers malicious.My PERSONAL (not as an admin) opinion is that we should aim for the situation when there are no instance bans at all. It's not always possible, but we shouldn't block entire instances left and right just because of several bad users.
(DIR) Post #APKYVUQiF2D1bYA5Wy by BetaBoyTV@lor.sh
2022-11-06T15:03:26Z
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@skobkin So to be clear, I’m not demanding anything. This should be read as me gathering info in order to cage my own expectations. That said, see attached screen shot. Being a Hispanic dude with tags like “socialist” and whatnot, I should expect to see responses like this. An openly trans person or Black activist even more so. Knowing that people who live to hate number in the millions, a system that has zero censorship of any kind would be incredibly hostile to marginalized people, right? Spending most of their time on the platform blocking and/or reporting hate, than having a positive user experience. As I type I realize my observations must be something that’s brought up a lot by newbies, so apologies if this is something people are tired of hearing, just a bit disappointed.
(DIR) Post #APKYoXpLpmeBdxlwOm by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:09:37.941884Z
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@ChristiJunior @BetaBoyTV @Gargron Curious how 'toxic/bigoted' are actually the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for the internet.Turns out everything I enjoy is 'toxic/bigoted' and everything I despise is the opposite. Go figure. It's uncanny.
(DIR) Post #APKYwOQ0hQkAmOf50q by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:11:02.933332Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Good morning, godless sodomite. As an experienced Fedi user I'm happy to answer all your questions at the weekend Fediverse rooftop conference, please step lively now, we don't want to be late
(DIR) Post #APKYyiZCl9f1qc4SKu by Eschatology@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:11:28.206528Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Looking for clarification on something. I am definitely one of the new people from #twitter #twittermigration and I came here because someone shared a screenshot of @Gargron displaying exceptional leadership and anti-fascism. Uh what are you doing without your gold star on, you miserable kike?
(DIR) Post #APKZGklbJps9soT8sK by sneedjitsu@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:14:34.680635Z
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@Eschatology @BetaBoyTV @Gargron @Gargron his @ is literally betaboytv i am doing what is called the lmao
(DIR) Post #APKZd5Ck0pvldloMKG by White@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:18:45.952870Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron
(DIR) Post #APKZtENJgUAOiRSRHc by Sir_Ivissia@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-06T15:18:42.442478Z
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I'll say this once, simply.This is a big boy site. YOU are solely responsible for your feed as a user. The block button is right fucking there for you to use as freely as you wish. (I've literally spent the last week scrolling the fedi timeline and hitting block on people I find not simpatico, Copypasta posters and lolifags mostly, I hate copypasta. I expect to do so for another couple of weeks at least)What you don't have is the right to censor people for others. If you want censorship, there are plenty of instances who are happy to be walled gardens - find one of those.
(DIR) Post #APKZvXdv1BPn3LKDVw by sneedjitsu@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:13:12.231728Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron sorry for doxxing you, by the way
(DIR) Post #APKZygK9CMSuqUZgGm by cadey@pony.social
2022-11-06T14:27:05Z
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@skobkin @BetaBoyTV This is a nice ideal but in practice it is needed in order to lessen the spread of hate
(DIR) Post #APKZygodN0qsN2q1my by skobkin@lor.sh
2022-11-06T14:32:24Z
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@cadey @BetaBoyTV No it's not. You can block only bad actors, not instances.As an admin you should always remember that even on most awful instances there could be pretty sane users which will be restricted to communicate with your users if you ban the instance.As a person who was born in Russia and observed how the censorship was spreading I know pretty well how people can get from "children protection" to political censorship of "unwanted" persons or social media.Each such action should be weighted a hundred of times before taking it.
(DIR) Post #APKa1Bnb977b2iXtC4 by coin@asimon.org
2022-11-06T15:23:06.468427Z
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@BetaBoyTV You see something you don't like, you block it. Capiche?It's not difficult to press a button.
(DIR) Post #APKag96s36AQZk5dEe by lina@eientei.org
2022-11-06T15:30:31.172009Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron
(DIR) Post #APKavOqbopFvjFl0E4 by dump_stack@lor.sh
2022-11-06T15:33:13Z
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@BetaBoyTV, if we'll see that they specifically target users of our server in mass, we'll limit the server. That means anyone on our side can still follow users on their server, but there will be no new interactions by default.If it's not the case, then it's up to you to ban them by domain.In general, there are just a few servers that are okay with idiots that harass other people, so in case they annoy you personally, you'll not need to spend a lot of time blocking them.@skobkin
(DIR) Post #APKcYEw6hcU0EmPfn6 by 14wontons91@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:51:30.406757Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Nigger
(DIR) Post #APKcu0xBN1UPF3IatU by ChikaFujiwara@eveningzoo.club
2022-11-06T15:55:24.788153Z
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The answer to every question you have is: “you have to go back”, OP
(DIR) Post #APKcu3cjRVuhWUknw0 by HappyLittleWarPainter@chudbuds.lol
2022-11-06T15:55:27.019170Z
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Grow up and stop looking for asspats from others that you hope agree with you.
(DIR) Post #APKcuHvKHB6bsDYqrQ by D00B@seal.cafe
2022-11-06T15:55:28.257500Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Welcome to fediverse nigger. :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers: :mfw_niggers:
(DIR) Post #APKcxfLReXBNNkOA5Y by lina@eientei.org
2022-11-06T15:56:05.812839Z
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@ChikaFujiwara @BetaBoyTV @Gargron naturally
(DIR) Post #APKcxhnWX6pazPXc8G by homefi@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:54:33.406473Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron @BetaBoyTV @Gargron George Floyd was a nigger. Now he's dead, a much better outcome.You should fuck back to twitter and pay the man his 8 bucks. Faggots like you aren't welcome here
(DIR) Post #APKczkVVQksbyJ5WBE by bane@www.banepo.st
2022-11-06T15:56:26.849026Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron That's right, you nigger faggot. If you need a safe space where you won't get raped and then get the rope, go full kikel back to Twitter.
(DIR) Post #APKdCA0cRPh4XUYiwK by Dagnar@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:50:06.473061Z
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@cadey @skobkin @BetaBoyTV Like the hate the faggots spread against Straight White Men? It's ok when they do it, right?
(DIR) Post #APKdFzeAuP9jYntA00 by billystick@poa.st
2022-11-06T15:51:15.556131Z
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@BetaBoyTV @skobkin you aren't being nearly marginialized enough faggot spicplease re read what that friendly anon sent you until it sinks into your shallow skull
(DIR) Post #APKdISaaH2C3tyNx8y by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-06T15:59:51.817050Z
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@BetaBoyTV You sound like a raging homosexual, but fuck it, you are interested in learning, and the point of fedi is exactly as you think: we're all free to do whatever we want. I want to hurl slurs at pussies, so that's why I have an account here. (I have many others, but I do not use them for hurling slurs, you can look and see for yourself, I link some of them - I need to update that, and my contact page, but anyway...)Similarly, you are free to block people, you are free to collaborate on blocking people. I do not recommend it, but if you insist, you may find #fediblock to be useful. https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/fediunblock.html mentions a website for it that collapsed because they could not block faster than we hurled slurs (lol, lmao). *Actually I'm not sure I was around back when that happened.There are some other, similar things you can do, like taking block lists from other instances and using them; I found one instance a while ago, birdsite.live or something, which listed its blocks in a file on a github repo. It's how I found the fun side of fedi in the first place.You can also join/use an instance that already has a large block list. There's one, uhhh, radical.town or something, which has blocked like 90% of fedi. I still haven't figured out why they didn't just disable federation entirely, or whitelist or something. (Can mastodon even into whitelists?)But yeah my actual recommendation is to stop being such a niggerbrained fucktard and realise that some words on the internet really aren't worth stressing over, and you'll find that actually we have 0 problems with you thereafter. Unless you're a troon or a kike in which case we'll send you noose pictures daily. They can't hurt you either.
(DIR) Post #APKdO3OAsdRrTyFRTc by BetaBoyTV@lor.sh
2022-11-06T15:55:34Z
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@homefi You all have motivated me to stick around. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #APKdO3mzONIWivrG9g by homefi@poa.st
2022-11-06T16:00:24.837724Z
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@BetaBoyTV @BetaBoyTV you are welcome. Maybe one day we will both sit on a niggers neck :)
(DIR) Post #APKdVTpixWoFWcfwHY by Oven_Dodger@poa.st
2022-11-06T16:02:12.738462Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Go back to twitter, kike.
(DIR) Post #APKdpTG8np8HXLZ1yS by Ranch_Davidian@poa.st
2022-11-06T16:03:26.659909Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron To clarify: Bamning everyone to the right of Mitt Romney and calling them Nazis while silencing descent to levels that would have made the gestapo blush has radicalized many people. You're blind to this because you created an echo chamber and now have no read on how regular people think. You nigger.
(DIR) Post #APKeraOlKYu8DBAXmS by NailBomb@poa.st
2022-11-06T16:02:40.433192Z
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@cadey Try suicide sometime.
(DIR) Post #APKfxmFkGhtYfZT2ie by stoa@freespeechextremist.com
2022-11-06T16:29:44.443413Z
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@BetaBoyTV @GargronIMG_4432.MOV
(DIR) Post #APKguZVNJBC0DZoUdM by pogrommer@poa.st
2022-11-06T16:40:21.747378Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron nigger
(DIR) Post #APKigxZbE79miaQVP6 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2022-11-06T16:59:55.854828Z
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@BetaBoyTV @Gargron Fediverse is an open-source protocol that anyone can take and use to create their own instances, and many far-right individuals have started and joined instances which allow such behavior. Gargron is a lying Jewish diaper fetishist and likely pedophile who pretends like he owns the place but he doesn't and can't.
(DIR) Post #APKzqRfQPDplscGBhA by Tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz
2022-11-06T20:12:28.062214Z
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@BetaBoyTV The expectation is that pinko faggots like you fuck offThe children of a revolution are the first to get eaten so why don't you neck yourself instead of trying to drag everyone else to Hell with you :amepeek:
(DIR) Post #APKzvL08cJRKebHVY0 by Tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz
2022-11-06T20:13:21.936960Z
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@ArdainianRight @BetaBoyTV @Gargron Gargon be like
(DIR) Post #APLRe1TakptntMaePo by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2022-11-07T01:23:59.970068Z
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Who's the newfag? 🤔
(DIR) Post #APLeJmflNpQLajxlVA by Schmidt08@nightshift.social
2022-11-07T02:00:12.655126Z
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(DIR) Post #APLfB0eo7TSgJOtbAO by Johnny5iveAlive@nightshift.social
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(DIR) Post #APLfCpRamT2878a8ky by keith@nightshift.social
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(DIR) Post #APLfG5oGOFC1jwk68e by Johnny5iveAlive@nightshift.social
2022-11-07T03:56:31.566273Z
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(DIR) Post #APYpmZqpGlg03CLdNQ by mareklach@mastodon.xyz
2022-11-13T12:25:39Z
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@BetaBoyTV Since Mastodon is by design a highly decentralized service, @Gargron has designed it so that as a user, you always have robust tools to block/report inappropriate users. Individual server administrators also have their own rules and tools to ban someone who behaves inappropriately. However, if an admin of some instance (server) does allow users you find offensive, that is their choice.Others can, and be assured will, simply blacklist them.