Post APKVw668W02S64X7Ue by Jer@chirp.enworld.org
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(DIR) Post #APIjITCVIVbhVHlsbw by shadowfacts@social.shadowfacts.net
2022-11-05T17:57:38.976887Z
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I am sure _you_ would be perfectly responsible with a quote-tooting feature on here, but your individual behavior is not the point. The point is that intrinsic to the feature is the risk of abuse.It turns replying from having a conversation with another person to a performative thing you do _in front of your entire audience_.
(DIR) Post #APIjiLjxepRFtXlFS4 by mcg@social.lol
2022-11-05T18:01:05Z
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@shadowfacts I want to boost this, but it feels like a subtoot 🙂
(DIR) Post #APIjiM9q6c8fBnrumu by shadowfacts@social.shadowfacts.net
2022-11-05T18:02:19.441534Z
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@mcg you can. it's not subposting anyone in particular, there've just been a lot of people recently wanting that feature and saying they don't think they abuse it
(DIR) Post #APIoWcugTzEVS40R8a by FiXato@toot.cat
2022-11-05T18:25:26Z
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@shadowfactswhen I first started out here several years ago, I missed the ability to quote-retoot, or so I thought.Nowadays it doesn't even really cross my mind.
(DIR) Post #APIoWkctnzlBNDkLWi by allenstenhaus@mastodon.xyz
2022-11-05T18:25:42Z
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@shadowfacts My message to the newbies is "You'll get used to it. After a week, you won't even think about it."
(DIR) Post #APJ7SHKlaEs0CPfHWq by ckmcnaughty@mastodon.nz
2022-11-05T19:55:17Z
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@shadowfacts I agree there is risk of abuse but no more than someone being abusive taking a screenshot of the toot and then laying out their grievances to their audience. Where I see the utility in such a feature is for additional angles of a conversation or thread that wouldn’t be a relevant reply toot. It gives context to the reply tooter’s audience. In any event, shouldn’t the risk of abuse be just another aspect to weigh when considering a feature?
(DIR) Post #APJ7SHs5aLWbrlFtT6 by shadowfacts@social.shadowfacts.net
2022-11-05T22:28:19.773560Z
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@ckmcnaughty The risk should definitely be balanced against the benefit. But as twitter has demonstrated repeatedly, the abuse isn't just a risk: it actually happens. And it outweighs the utility
(DIR) Post #APJ7XXQ1Cym5X6d4yW by aquarius@queer.party
2022-11-05T21:29:31Z
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@shadowfacts What do you think about how Tumblr does it with reblogging? Instead of quotes under a single blurb with Twitter, Tumblr has a flat descending thread of blurbs, separated from replies and non-cited reblogs elsewhere. I find it interesting, but I haven’t seen that used on the Fediverse so far and I don’t know why?
(DIR) Post #APJ7XYTFISwynP9Ae0 by shadowfacts@social.shadowfacts.net
2022-11-05T22:29:17.132685Z
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@aquarius it's interesting, but I've never used tumblr enough to be able to form an opinion about it
(DIR) Post #APJDP6tUXeomg0mOtE by xenophora@mastodon.art
2022-11-05T23:28:10Z
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@shadowfacts Plus, it leads to constantly elevating terrible people under the guise of combating them. :/
(DIR) Post #APKVw668W02S64X7Ue by Jer@chirp.enworld.org
2022-11-06T12:40:08Z
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@shadowfacts Also I think that qt-ing even used responsibly are used to talk "about" a post or a thread rather than engage with it and be a part of the conversation. I can see how journalists would miss it because that's their job and training. But it incentivizes some pretty bad behavior, and even if used responsibly is kind of the opposite of "social" - commentary instead of conversation.