Post APJv05Gbqmn4NETBPk by moritzw@sueden.social
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(DIR) Post #APJt8Bqz2s5hD6DlRY by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T07:22:30Z
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I currently have two big feature requests for the fediverse:# Reply BackfillI understand that that's because of how #ActicityPub works. Each instance only knows about content by accounts that at least one user was subscribed to when it was posted. But most fediverse software got an API which could be used (maybe on an app level #tusky) to load more replies from the server of the original poster. On the web, I often click through to the original post, but on the apps, that's too cumbersome.
(DIR) Post #APJuMR8793Uib5aguu by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T07:36:18Z
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# SearchI am a heavy search user. On websites with no search field, I try common URL queries (eg. WordPress uses ?s=searchterm). On Twitter I memorized many advanced queries and poked around to find new ones (eg. -min_faves:5 finds Tweets with fewer than 5 faves). I regularly search for the FedFinder URL to see what people say about it and help when they have questions or bugs. I can't do that in the fediverse.Maybe you can help me understand why the public timelines shouldn't be searchable.
(DIR) Post #APJuYPl64LYnorXIh6 by ondra@social.unextro.net
2022-11-06T07:38:27Z
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@Luca Same. For anyone interested in the same, please 👍: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/34
(DIR) Post #APJugS4TM4xhJAQo2C by ummjackson@mastodon.social
2022-11-06T07:39:55Z
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@Luca "Lack of full-text search on general content is intentional, due to negative social dynamics of it in other networks"https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/4947733
(DIR) Post #APJuhacb3Bqo7Gw2wS by ondra@social.unextro.net
2022-11-06T07:40:07Z
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@Luca Status backfill is also my #1 feature request. For anyone interested, please 👍: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/34
(DIR) Post #APJuxJJr9DBj5UfLay by oliver@2pxnl.de
2022-11-06T07:42:57Z
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@Luca the positive results you created with public search, are shadowed by people stalking you by search or doing search collect marketing data. Both not impossible here, but I guess it is lots harder to accomplish. Personally, I would love to have search too.
(DIR) Post #APJv05Gbqmn4NETBPk by moritzw@sueden.social
2022-11-06T07:43:20Z
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@Luca also, it seems I can't follow a specific #hashtag, which would be a great feature...
(DIR) Post #APJwAIH6RSL9ZE8IFM by katzentratschen@mastodon.social
2022-11-06T07:43:24Z
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@ummjackson @Luca There's also a longer explanation here. https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/07/cage-the-mastodon/
(DIR) Post #APJwAMPl3DdkPEDGIC by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T07:56:30Z
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@katzentratschen @ummjackson Thanks. I read that.I know of the dog piling issue. Certain groups are looking for posts about a topic to then share it in a toxic way ("haha , so stupid") and/or be assholes in the replies.My behavior would probably fall into the uninvited insertion category. I want to help people, who have issues with my tool. But maybe I need to let go of being able to do that.
(DIR) Post #APJwiRWuXRry7IoJIe by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T08:02:38Z
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@oliver Search is hard as a scaling problem, but easy on a theoretical level for servers that got an API like all mastodon instances. You simply collect the local timeline for each server. Some servers have turned that off, so those would be excluded, but everything else could be found. But I don't even want to think about building it, before understanding the reservations people have.
(DIR) Post #APJwy2JC4uTIWmpVfk by Fripi@chaos.social
2022-11-06T08:05:26Z
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@Luca it was a decision taken which is in my opinion wrong, I hope that will be changed at some point.
(DIR) Post #APJxBUGXRftb040AK0 by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T08:07:54Z
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@moritzw The advanced web view at least has hashtag columns and following is being discussed https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/1096 . But following Hashtags is a hard problem with ActivityPub because of how posts are distributed. As a result you would probably only see posts your instance knows about.
(DIR) Post #APJxUhk9YmFwIo18Km by Luca@vis.social
2022-11-06T08:11:25Z
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@Fripi Search would be another burden for the servers, a third party service could solve that (no need for every server to do all the indexing and stuff) and add some friction to reduce negative effects.
(DIR) Post #APJxhvVzfW9wmLhP6m by ondra@social.unextro.net
2022-11-06T08:13:46Z
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@Luca Status backfill is also my #1 feature request.The most relevant Github issue I could find is:https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14017But there's at least a similar feature request for statuses of newly followed accounts: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/34Anyone interested can 👍 those.
(DIR) Post #APJyS0GWL4MUphQt8q by Fripi@chaos.social
2022-11-06T08:22:04Z
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@Luca is am worried it will result in exactly that, but that is not wanted. It would expose the internals to a huge crowd that can be complicated.I am still convinced that it will happen no matter what. If Mastodon doesn't solve it and is successful someone will build a search function. And then there will be no control over it.
(DIR) Post #APJyWorMAmtSuExVvk by assbach@wandzeitung.xyz
2022-11-06T08:22:58Z
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@Luca ne "globale" Suche wär mega hilfreich.
(DIR) Post #APJzI17UPKNOXb0iJ6 by dav_d@det.social
2022-11-06T08:31:28Z
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@Luca the same could be done to show followers of external profiles. Currently you have to go to the original server to see the full list, but it is hard to follow accounts you see there...
(DIR) Post #APK7CXjz0hRhbmusYC by dr_marcomeer@mastodon.green
2022-11-06T10:00:08Z
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@Luca For the time being, you can channel questions by building a FAQ that is being linked on your web interface and github, such that whoever comes across your tool, has a way to obtain first source infos.
(DIR) Post #APK7O6hdMWazE8Kcvw by dr_marcomeer@mastodon.green
2022-11-06T10:02:15Z
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@Luca For the time being, you can channel questions by building a FAQ or link to a discourse forum that is being linked on your web interface and github, such that whoever comes across your tool, has a way to obtain first source infos. And for bugs you'd link to github issues.
(DIR) Post #APK7QzuF5Y2X14biwC by dr_marcomeer@mastodon.green
2022-11-06T10:02:45Z
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@Luca For the time being, you can channel questions by building a FAQ or create a discourse forum that is being linked on your web interface and github, such that whoever comes across your tool, has a way to obtain first source infos. And for bugs you'd link to github issues.
(DIR) Post #APK7oH4lPyrSvZd0Ay by dr_marcomeer@mastodon.green
2022-11-06T10:06:58Z
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@Luca For the time being, you can channel questions by building a FAQ or create a discourse forum that is being linked on your web interface and github, such that whoever comes across your tool, has a way to obtain first source infos. And for bugs you'd link to github issues. Why let content being dispersed in a network requiring searching it when you can easily concentrate it by showing users where they can ask.
(DIR) Post #APK9ZA2jU1YwgFbCme by GigaByte4711@whitespashe.uk
2022-11-06T10:26:35Z
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@Luca Full text search can be used to find people or posts to harass, even if the person isn't publicly making it available to search.1: "I'm not a fan of our Conservative party. They have treated people badly recently"2: "I'm not a fan of our #conservative party. They have treated people badly recently"Post one is an opinion put out into the world without specifying that people looking for the word conservative can find it. The user hasn't opted into the word conservative being used to find their post.Post two welcomes people finding it when searching for the conservative tag.This way of doing things means that you can't go trawling the public timeline to find people that post about a subject off-hand, then harass them.There is an option in mastodon that allows full-text search of your OWN posts. This is useful to find a post of yours, or a reply to a post if its fairly old, and you forgot to tag it.
(DIR) Post #APKAMDpSCERabymYQC by dpprdan@mas.to
2022-11-06T10:35:31Z
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@Luca @moritzw Following a hashtag is added as feature in mastodon v4.0.0, which is still in the release candidate stage. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.0.0rc1https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/109293633409927884vis.social and sueden.social are on v3.5.3 ATM (you can see the version in the page footer)