Post APGjvdX6Qa6aWgA8My by trebach@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #APGdUYMGxYaIvvnbnc by thegibson@hackers.town
       2022-11-04T17:33:41Z
       
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       Elon's making it very difficult to car shop.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGdUYhBhnJZynaJOq by purple@nya.social
       2022-11-04T17:43:10.909Z
       
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       @thegibson@hackers.town i had SO much trouble finding a vehicle a few months ago 💢
       
 (DIR) Post #APGeOZp4hYDfgyz9Mm by dredmorbius@toot.cat
       2022-11-04T17:44:07Z
       
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       @TheGibson Buy a bike instead.E-Bikes & Cargo Bikes FTFW.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGiZFRBEYbZTD9Wkq by vertigo@hackers.town
       2022-11-04T17:52:57Z
       
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       @thegibson Ford Mach-E maybe?
       
 (DIR) Post #APGiZFuFUTrCvMkk40 by thegibson@hackers.town
       2022-11-04T18:02:09Z
       
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       @vertigo Trying to keep it something affordable that I can buy outright...I really dislike payments.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGj4hsZXPAieqxwB6 by msh@coales.co
       2022-11-04T18:45:42Z
       
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       @thegibson I think Hyundai is best bet for electric right now.Or Ford Maverick if a hybrid is ok. I wish there was a full electric one though there is a painful gap in the market for electric vehicles equipped with minimal BS.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGjvdX6Qa6aWgA8My by trebach@mstdn.social
       2022-11-04T18:55:14Z
       
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       @msh  @thegibson Chevy brags on their commercials how they have an EV version of a bunch of their models. No idea about the details though
       
 (DIR) Post #APGyNvxktk999U14xk by allenstenhaus@mastodon.xyz
       2022-11-04T19:34:35Z
       
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       @dredmorbius @TheGibson I want to do that, but I live in Maine where there's snow & ice on the ground 6 months of the year & the country roads I'd have to use are horribly maintained with no shoulder whatsoever. Quite a few drivers have died on my road in fairly low speed collisions. I don't like my chances on a bike.I'd cycle a lot more with proper infrastructure, but that's just not a thing in the US, especially rural areas.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGyNwLrS7QeMFIKXI by dredmorbius@toot.cat
       2022-11-04T19:45:44Z
       
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       @allenstenhaus Then start campaigning for bikeable / walkable infrastructure, communities, zoning, and density.Bicycles were originally highly popular and useful in rural communities, but that required bike-friendly roads (there was of course far less automobile traffic originally), and denser concentrations of development within even small towns.What you'll find today throughout much of the US is not only sparse rural populations dispersed over the landscape, but "small towns" or even villages with ridiculously low density and structures / service spread over a vast area.That didn't happen by accident, and it won't un-happen by accident.@TheGibson
       
 (DIR) Post #APGyNwiC75IFTVkALY by allenstenhaus@mastodon.xyz
       2022-11-04T20:27:14Z
       
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       @dredmorbius @TheGibson I am barely surviving. It's November & I still don't have enough money to start heating my home this winter. The assumption everyone has the free time, energy, & capital to make direct changes is quite harmful. It is impossible for me to fight for every single cause I believe in. Sometimes, the most I can do is spread a message of need & hope it's heard by those with the resources to make things better.The alternative is doing nothing at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #APGyNxFA8VfH7lAUjY by dredmorbius@toot.cat
       2022-11-04T20:28:21Z
       
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       @allenstenhaus Do what you can then.And support those who can do more.  Even if that's simply awareness and publicity.@TheGibson
       
 (DIR) Post #APGyNxfOYyeGR7RRce by dredmorbius@toot.cat
       2022-11-04T21:34:44Z
       
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       @allenstenhaus Understanding your own limitations, my broader point is that non-automobile-centric development patterns are required for a non-automobile-dependent lifestyle.Transportation and sprawl are expensive in ways that are really hard to comprehend.  Every additional mile or metre there is to travel everything has to cross, with costs in energy, vehicle capital and maintenance, and infrastructure.  There are some activities which are inherently land-use dependent (e.g., agriculture, forestry, etc.)  Much of everyday and urban life ... not so much.  Even for small values of urbanities.There's a large set of interests which have produced and sustained sprawl largely out of their own pecuniary interests.  Countering that, locally and everywhere, at the political level, is key.  And land use is tied to a huge set of other issues:  general cost of living, inequality, housing access, global warming/climate change, amongst them.  That's not going to happen overnight, but it can happen.  Amsterdam and the Netherlands are an example of a place that made that choice in the 1970s and, yes, a half-century later, are reaping the rewards.  (Those arrived in less than 50 years, but it's been a gradual process.)Informational sources that help grow that awareness help.  Some of those:StrongTowns (YT: https://yewtu.be/channel/UCTeYrzSQ3YCp3RovGH4y8Ew, blog: https://www.strongtowns.org/, podcast: https://www.strongtowns.org/podcast), Not Just Bikes (YT: https://yewtu.be/channel/UC0intLFzLaudFG-xAvUEO-A, blog: <>Shane Phillips (UCLA Lewis Center).  His book The Affordable City is excellent https://islandpress.org/books/affordable-city.  Also a Twitter feed:  https://nitter.net/ShaneDPhillipsOn the Fediverse, @Alon writes about transit and related issues.@TheGibson #StrongTowns #NotJustBikes #Transit #UrbanPlanning #CarFree #ShanePhillips #UCLALewisCenter