Post APCREmojSQTr3szEKO by AlohaPilgrim@mastodon.online
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 (DIR) Post #APCNg6iHC3iAlmjsjA by ottaross@mastodon.social
       2022-11-02T13:30:58Z
       
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       That #Guardian article on #Mastodon today has inaccuracies and implicit bias in its perspective."While technically anyone can spin up a Mastodon server, most users agree that the network has a left-leaning bent." This propensity to push everything into right-vs-left polarization is annoying.  Masto users seem to have a higher education level on average, and being well-informed, factual, and evidence-based get labeled "left" as if those things are some sort of political position.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCNg7H16tV6VWzcsS by ksawatsky@mas.to
       2022-11-02T13:57:58Z
       
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       @ottaross Yep, there's a lot of weird "telling on yourself" when not being a bigot is painted as a leftist political position. Besides yeah, there's tons of awful Mastodon instances out there, they just all get blocked off which is the beauty of decentralization.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCNg7oL709iAsaEoi by josemanuel@qoto.org
       2022-11-02T16:27:07Z
       
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       @ksawatsky Blocking off other instances is the beauty of decentralisation to you?@ottaross
       
 (DIR) Post #APCNg8HPMvPLd2BS7s by ottaross@mastodon.social
       2022-11-02T13:41:04Z
       
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       As someone once said, "reality has a left bias." Interesting that the author followed up that comment by pointing out moderators have to agree to “active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia” as if those things were the right-wing political platform (they are sadly becoming overtly so).Those should be right-versus-wrong divisions – crazy that they can be seen as simple political positions.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCO58J6P7kIx8tgxc by shellkr@mstdn.io
       2022-11-02T16:31:40Z
       
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       @ottaross I would say that is a very US-centric view of them... which is not strange. They pretty much only have two options to chose from in elections. Liberal or conservative..In the rest of the world.. liberalism are in the middle. Conservatism sadly do not care that much of human rights..
       
 (DIR) Post #APCREmojSQTr3szEKO by AlohaPilgrim@mastodon.online
       2022-11-02T17:06:59Z
       
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       @josemanuel @ksawatsky @ottaross Thank you.  Let’s build diversity and freedom of speech with sand castles. Makes perfect sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCUTuKQ75goYyi6Lo by ainmosni@social.tchncs.de
       2022-11-02T17:37:13Z
       
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       @shellkr @ottaross I'd even say liberalism is right, but not extremely so.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCWZDTUYTVVIhc31s by avuko@infosec.exchange
       2022-11-02T18:06:43Z
       
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       @ksawatsky @ottaross @josemanuel Yes, to me it is. No one is entitled to anyone else’s attention. Nobody has to tolerate a single word or image they don’t like. Not a single person has to spend even a millisecond on arseholes who think it’s their right to be heard (and maybe even bought advertisement space and botnets to that effect). Nobody has to give an ant’s toss about someone’s dumb opinions. Zilch, nada, Null. That’s the beauty of a federated system to me. Communities can protect themselves from privileged arseholes, without having to beg some rage-mining twat and his flailing company running on the sweat of employees too scared, depending or stupid to leave for an iota of woefully inadequate action.Have a nice one!
       
 (DIR) Post #APCWahNeqpVOLFagi0 by shellkr@mstdn.io
       2022-11-02T18:07:01Z
       
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       @ainmosni @ottaross No, not really... socially they are slightly left but economically they are slightly right. It also depends on party and country. In general I would say they are middle.I see it pretty much like this..left = community \_ progressivelibs = individuals /cons = strongest, the fittest - keep the familiarleft and libs can get together on social change/rights but not so much when it comes to economy.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCWgqzm15NTtnM0W0 by ksawatsky@mas.to
       2022-11-02T18:07:51Z
       
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       @josemanuel @ottaross One of, yes. If an instance is created to explicitly allow for hate speech because those people get kicked out of other instances, what's the issue with blocking the whole place?No tolerance for intolerance.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCWzr7zkPtvoQGCsS by josemanuel@qoto.org
       2022-11-02T18:11:33Z
       
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       @avuko You realise of course you can mute or block single accounts on your own, right? There’s usually no need to block whole instances (either by yourself or with the help of daddy admin), and there’s certainly no honour in being a censor or a rat.@ksawatsky @ottaross
       
 (DIR) Post #APCX3wcDHtOvzPLPbU by josemanuel@qoto.org
       2022-11-02T18:12:18Z
       
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       @avuko Oops! You have a nice one, too, friend!@ksawatsky @ottaross
       
 (DIR) Post #APCjP2dRIg1UBskCHY by ainmosni@social.tchncs.de
       2022-11-02T20:23:14Z
       
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       @shellkr @ottaross The thing is that I'd consider the social part its own axis, while the economic part is usually what we'd call left or right. And if you look at the liberal parties in many European countries, and even the states, they're pretty right wing.That said, I think it's a problem that we talk about politics in only a single axis instead of at least two, the other one being authoritarian vs anti-authoritarian.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCl1ir4sLos5l8E9A by adamasnemesis@social.adamasnemesis.com
       2022-11-02T20:36:49Z
       
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       @ottaross Besides, there's a thriving base of right-wing users on the Fediverse, even if they're less numerous, so I think this whole description of theirs is misleading.
       
 (DIR) Post #APCnp3x1QjFncLZDyC by shellkr@mstdn.io
       2022-11-02T21:20:05Z
       
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       @ainmosni @ottaross Yes, I consider neoliberalist economy to be right wing... but I think the social part plays an important role when determining right or left.. Most parties follow the neoliberal hammer today. In one way or the other. The common good determines if it is left or right. Which means you step in on the social part. Which part of society you help.