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(DIR) Post #AOvbgiZdZ2lKKNkNdo by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T14:14:02.859153Z
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New Kiwi Farms Telegram announcement:"I am doing two things right now:1. I am looking at strengthening our network for the return to clearnet.2. I am going to replicate the backend so that we can never be knocked off Tor again. This is something I can do on my own. I should have done it sooner but I thought I had more time.The reality of a Tier 1 provider like Zayo censoring the Internet is very dire and I hope you will pay attention.In the world of ISPs, there are very few real players. There are 15 tier 1 networks in existence. There are many more ISPs, but they generally all connect to a Tier 1 network.Additionally, there are even fewer ISPs which provide DDoS protection. These companies (Path, Telia, Voxility, Zayo) are more politically charged than a normal ISP. Without them, should you manage to peer, you are not on the Internet if you cannot handle DDoS attacks yourself. DDoS mitigation has never been made a core part of the Internet, and I believe that weakness is deliberately encouraged by governments, as the US government routinely utilizes DDoS attacks to censor networks like Tor.A DDoS attack can be between 1Gbps and 100Gbps or higher. A 10Gbps line is about $700/mo. This scales pretty linearly, with some bulk discounts. Not all routers can handle 10Gbps, and few routers can handle 100Gbps. Those are also thousands of dollars each. Then you actually have to find a way to scrub the attack bandwidth.Meanwhile, we are not allowed to conduct ordinary business. Without reason and without appeal, I cannot process credit cards. We would easily make five times what do now if I could simply charge people for services like any other website. That is not possible because of the financial censorship, and as a result I am very limited in what I can realistically afford to do.So, ultimately, we are reliant on a few companies to continue tolerating us and one of the best ways to be tolerated is to have an established business relationship. If you've been at one datacenter talking to the same people for 20 years, as is often the case in the industry, they are likely to handle things diplomatically. If you are dropped in their lap last weekend like a pot of boiling water, they are unlikely to.Even the companies that do want to help are often underneath companies that do not want to help. The datacenter Worldstream in the Netherlands has blocked us, and thus any company that operates out of Worldstream cannot support us.I do like my website, and after spending time on other communities I know that nothing will ever replace it if the circus of sex pests and psychologically disturbed slacktivists have their way.I also am very sad to see these state of affairs. Without breaking the law, without piracy, and without incident (like Tarrant and Jan 6 with 8chan), we have been censored at some of the highest reaches of the Internet. A handful of very mentally ill people people sending nasty emails, threatening the families of datacenter employees, and calling in favors with friends in high places have very effectively snapped the neck of the interconnected world.Every year the diversity of websites online shrinks, and the centralization of services grow. Those who should want to fight a tech oligarchy instead cheer it on and help consolidate its power. I am helplessly watching the Internet, and the freedom it has brought our entire species, die a slow death. It hurts. The Internet is being murdered by shortsighted parasites, and they will never realize how big a mistake it is until there's no going back."
(DIR) Post #AOvciS0sCvADUzsQ88 by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T14:25:33.931466Z
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Anyone who is more knowledgeable on the network history of Kiwi Farms, didn’t the previous solution work pretty well? Why did they suddenly switch to Zayo after graf’s suggestion if the previous solution worked? Is it because Zayo offers DDoS protection, didn’t the DDoS mitigation script that was employed earlier do a fairly good job?
(DIR) Post #AOvciwcUPd4wQLhsvY by Anton_Sturm@chudbuds.lol
2022-10-25T14:23:19.566904Z
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Sic semper t(y)ranni(e)s.
(DIR) Post #AOvdpdc3ZuM7SLGB3A by faulted@poa.st
2022-10-25T14:38:04.281237Z
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@Charlamagne >Is it because Zayo offers DDoS protection?Yes. Also the switch to Zayo made the website run buttery smooth this past month. Tranny chasers will burn in hell (especially the faggot who cut off jersh from Zayo). I'm more interested in what Josh was referring to yesterday that would "piss a lot of people off".
(DIR) Post #AOvfQvWw1a2vh8D0jY by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T14:56:00.754037Z
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@faulted Josh said they were on Zayo for only 12 hours
(DIR) Post #AOvfb4SlfRSCIM6448 by WeebFirstGames@poa.st
2022-10-25T14:57:51.062358Z
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@Charlamagne @faulted Is he announcing what he is doing ahead of time, or are they just finding it out right away?
(DIR) Post #AOvfulJmYclMi4Hd4q by faulted@poa.st
2022-10-25T15:01:24.582522Z
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@WeebFirstGames @Charlamagne I guess?>P.S. I'm working on something special that will piss a lot of people off. Not likely to be done today, but this has not been an unproductive Monday.
(DIR) Post #AOvlcWeMxAR3jLbGjI by hwashington22@glindr.org
2022-10-25T15:26:43.920372Z
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@Charlamagne the script can handle layer 7 attacks, not layer 3/4 attacks
(DIR) Post #AOvllY0hGXRYYTLUdk by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:06:58.112930Z
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@WeebFirstGames @faulted They are on DNS lookup every hour of the day waiting for changes.
(DIR) Post #AOvn4sBKanomZX6BDk by WeebFirstGames@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:21:40.304884Z
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@Charlamagne @faulted Ah that's true, pretty easy to look up.
(DIR) Post #AOvoPmQzFyRImXxGEa by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:36:39.066559Z
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Update: “Voxility has blackholed the IP serving the 503 error page for the Kiwi Farms explaining how large ISPs are censoring the Internet. This was done at direct request of Liz Fong-Jones and without any explanation.” Attached was the Silence of the Lambs scene of Buffalo Bill dancing to Goodbye Horses
(DIR) Post #AOvooZdtx91oLgomFk by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2022-10-25T16:41:08.380414Z
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@Charlamagne >A large ISP has censored a page talking about large ISPs censoring things.
(DIR) Post #AOvovaBwJI8A4w55Yu by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2022-10-25T16:42:21.185992Z
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@Charlamagne they should have used HTTP 451 instead of HTTP 503
(DIR) Post #AOvoxDz1qoPTmQpDbE by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T16:42:40.603156Z
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@Charlamagne its hard to fucking tell what works and what doesnt because jersh bumbles around pissing people off and acting surprised when he always bites the hand that feeds, thinking he can do everything himself
(DIR) Post #AOvqJ2QfabtOGpif4K by r000t@ligma.pro
2022-10-25T16:57:38Z
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@CharlamagneZayo wussed out.
(DIR) Post #AOvqNDXMEU8RsZq9x3 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T16:58:35.112334Z
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@opal @Charlamagne it's more Josh pissed off an ex Google employee who was doing wetwork for a suicide hotline that never picked up the phone and with owners who tried to visit his house irl in 2017. Liz Fong Jones has been making xer life goal to remove the site from the internet to the point of coming off as a stalker and can do so since it has connections. Case in point:https://nickmonroe.blog/2019/11/28/dear-jack-twitter-is-politically-biased-heres-how/The issue with pissing people off is more he pissed people off in the free speech sphere who'd try to help him or keep the site up. When kf was up earlier this month poast users didn't like how the kiwis were fucking with them as an example (the nose, yelling at the users on the site, etc).
(DIR) Post #AOvqZJgrBHN2RE3Ksq by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:00:45.939746Z
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@PhenomX6 @Charlamagne josh is just a retarded mineshaft canary to me. he doesnt benefit me directly, he doesnt make an effort to talk back to me like at least crunk seems to do, seems like hes just in his own world about all this shit so i really dont care what happens to him. T1 ISPs setting a precedent just means i need to bail off clearnet sooner rather than later
(DIR) Post #AOvqlkicW1tbjxo8Aq by mint@ryona.agency
2022-10-25T17:02:22.178551Z
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@jeffcliff @Charlamagne There's no legal reason like an ongoing lawsuit or official government censor adding it to the list. Most of deplatforming events in recent days happened thanks to the power of nepotism.
(DIR) Post #AOvqxKFik3Oz8FoBoO by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T17:05:06.336883Z
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@opal @Charlamagne a good metaphor imo is he's like a fedi badmin to the point his site is known for banning people for dumbass reasons. I think he also doesn't get why dox is being used to shut the site down too.
(DIR) Post #AOvsS1zUmvmhQSQOXo by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T17:21:52.453318Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @Charlamagne > The issue with pissing people off is more he pissed people off in the free speech sphere who'd try to help him or keep the site up. When kf was up earlier this month poast users didn't like how the kiwis were fucking with them as an example (the nose, yelling at the users on the site, etc).Look, I think Josh brought a lot of drama to poast. But that isn't why this is happening now. There aren't people in the "free speech sphere" willing to defend him at Voxility, nor at Zayo, nor at path.net. We're seeing an unprecedented utilisation of the Internet's core infrastructure for censorship.You can start your own hosting company, you can even start your own ISP.But both the ISP and hosting company need to piggyback from a Tier I ISP, hence why there aren't any "free speech" tier I hosting companies. Pissing off the free speech people had NOTHING to do with this.
(DIR) Post #AOvshMVamnvrP6kRSy by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:24:38.579826Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne yeah it's obvious t1 isps are showing their cards now, they stopped caring about being a secret cabal. time to route around them.
(DIR) Post #AOvt1QEadxUkkcMQfw by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-25T17:28:16Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne great idea. How?
(DIR) Post #AOvt8JvwT4t9Eiva1w by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T17:29:31.016155Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne There's no "routing around them" without...1. Changing all the network infrastructure worldwide.2. Creating a mesh network.The mesh network is extremely impractical, the biggest success of this type of thing was Cuba's SNET, and that only worked in a densely populated city, where people could be convinced to hookup with the network.Honestly, I hate to say this, but we need legislation that forces low level infrastructure providers to be content neutral.Or, governments need to break up them into smaller companies.
(DIR) Post #AOvtRDInLbxMAhcrj6 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T17:32:55.423409Z
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@ThighHighSock @opal @Charlamagne the unfortunate reality is, everything they do draws us closer to the point where fedposting is more inevitable.Congressmen are the dumbest boomers who will sell you out to avoid NZ shooting stream 2.
(DIR) Post #AOvtlsQY9gJ7Vi6eA4 by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T17:36:38.339463Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @Charlamagne You're right, it looks shitty on all fronts.However, It's **FAR** more practical than building a mesh network, or buying out a T1 ISP (hundreds of milions of dollars).Overlay networks like Tor and i2p are a temporary solution, but eventually, if Tor provides a way for people to access websites that the mob is against, Tor will not be allowed to exist.If Texas can make a bill against social media censorship, they can make a bill against ISP censorship, so it's not totally impossible.
(DIR) Post #AOvtyWXOqpcrNzLBgW by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:38:56.201511Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne >that only worked [...] where people could be convinced to hookup with the network.ok then convince other people to hook up then. governments dont "need" to do anything, legislation doesnt "need" to exist, what needs to be done is you not bestowing the responsibility to everyone else all the time.
(DIR) Post #AOvu1INPxRqAKpze0O by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:39:27.015353Z
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@coldacid @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne by not wasting my time here talking to dumbasses who havent made up their mind already
(DIR) Post #AOvu6o8hIDHAIDjiXg by mint@ryona.agency
2022-10-25T17:39:46.047447Z
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@ThighHighSock @opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne You could still parasite on their resources with overlay networks, like I2P already does. Tor too, but it's more vulnerable due to being opt-in. Filtering all that traffic is much more resource-constraining when you're Tier 1 dealing with petabits per second, and the lack of central point of failure prevents the bad actors from pinpointing the entry point.
(DIR) Post #AOvu9MtH3kPieQk94q by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:40:53.827834Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne >Overlay networks like Tor and i2p are a temporary solutionthey are a permanent solution, but the solution they offer is anonymity, not internet topology. we have plenty of solutions for the latter
(DIR) Post #AOvuFJxyqOQpJsmc8u by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T17:41:58.943432Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne you're still using their networks to route though
(DIR) Post #AOvuX2ci41QKkAHe4G by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-25T17:45:11Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne seriously though the operating costs for such a network are pretty damn big, to say nothing at all about the capital that would need to be laid down to build it in the first place. I think we definitely need a freedom-friendly tier one, but short of Trump and Elon joining forces on one I don't see it happening :(
(DIR) Post #AOvukuBqDQvcdsKKaO by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T17:47:41.060802Z
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@coldacid @opal @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne trump's the kinda boomer who wanted to gut 230 because mean words online.None of them care about you as long as they can watch their shows.
(DIR) Post #AOvuokjlIrTeU01mV6 by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-25T17:48:23Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne I know. But we need that level of dosh to pull this off.
(DIR) Post #AOvusKVEmdleHEwJgO by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:49:01.374112Z
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@PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne tor operates on any tcp/ip network, im not locked to using anyone's routes.this is why i hate talking about networking with anyone
(DIR) Post #AOvuv35txsuz9bNy9g by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:49:31.600487Z
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@coldacid @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne ok so youre just gonna give up, cool
(DIR) Post #AOvv0IwGTyufk7NsOW by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T17:50:27.687649Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne I suggest you read up on SNET, it really is a huge accomplishment.https://restofworld.org/2020/the-life-and-death-of-snet-havanas-alternative-internet/Imagine knocking on doors in your neighborhood asking people to let you string Ethernet cable and WiFi repeaters... when they already have the Internet?!?This doesn't even consider the scalability concerns of such a network, Ethernet cables can't carry petabits of bandwidth.So to accomplish something like this you'd need...1. Ridiculous amounts of money for scalable infrastructure2. Widespread public enthuasium.Essentially, you'd be building your own Internet, legislation forcing neutrality on T1 providers is far more likely.
(DIR) Post #AOvv0Wbrecug8twmXY by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:50:30.950125Z
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@coldacid @Charlamagne @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock all i see in this thread is "either we have to do all the work or we have to convince someone else to do all the work in order for something good to happen". most useless discussion ever.
(DIR) Post #AOvv298xs6oBwWCd16 by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-25T17:50:48Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne well, what can I actually do? I don't have buckets of cash, and I can't lay lines. I'm sure I could do something with routers, but that requires having those first.
(DIR) Post #AOvv6NCDZD5QgTjvSi by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:51:34.332905Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne >2. Widespread public enthuasium.why do you think im moving across state to a college town
(DIR) Post #AOvv9zmSZDApDkQ23E by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:52:13.612686Z
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@coldacid @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne you and everyone else can stop saying "this is impossible" and instead say "i dont want to do it" because thats the reality and thats fine. nothing's impossible.
(DIR) Post #AOvvCpf6dzrqhuKe1Y by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-25T17:52:44Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne rather, I want to do it but I am incapable
(DIR) Post #AOvvPTu6qphwzTNhFw by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T17:55:01.560767Z
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@coldacid @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @Charlamagne im just sick of pessimism in between people asking me how when they know how but they just want some easier solution to apparate out of thin air
(DIR) Post #AOvvf9SkcRMwE63ZYm by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T17:57:51.383189Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @coldacid @Charlamagne Do some research on how hard it is to get into the ISP game. Not even Google could do it with Google Fiber. https://gizmodo.com/when-google-fiber-abandons-your-city-as-a-failed-experi-1833244198https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/7/18215743/google-fiber-leaving-louisville-service-endinghttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/google-fiber-exits-louisville-pays-city-3-8m-to-clean-up-the-mess-it-left/
(DIR) Post #AOvwUjv0pwAg3psIbY by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T18:07:10.163472Z
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@PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @coldacid @Charlamagne i dont take an all-or-nothing approach to alternative routing. do some research into how that could work.
(DIR) Post #AOvxFscIJazgeEb7k8 by RamRanch@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:14:44.927336Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @Charlamagne >I think he also doesn't get why dox is being used to shut the site down too. Lmao are you feeling okay
(DIR) Post #AOvxFt9yINvsKgM1Ee by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T18:15:41.079750Z
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@RamRanch @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne you dont seem to get it either. doxing someone who has the power to fuck with you back is only going to end up badly for you.
(DIR) Post #AOvxWSkfjWVzLuQKWW by EbonyMawProphetofChaos@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:57:12.068805Z
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@Charlamagne it just keeps getting better & better josh/null don't you love the build your own internet question being answered with where the sidewalk ends is.( level power destroyed by nepotism & lgtq+ infiltrator & system people not having spine)
(DIR) Post #AOvxXe07OXFIWxDCEa by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T18:18:53.982566Z
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@PhenomX6 @Charlamagne @ThighHighSock @coldacid you know how many peering disagreements are hurting ipv6 adoption? the internet's broken, no shit. what do you do with broken infrastructure? detour around it. it doesn't matter who isn't listening to me, i don't care.
(DIR) Post #AOvxXeNryEFDicKAFs by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T18:18:53.617497Z
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@RamRanch @opal @Charlamagne Your website bans "dox materials" and considers posting the nose of an e-celeb's wife as such. So yeah.
(DIR) Post #AOvxzzjECoJA1epWym by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T18:24:00.595082Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne Mesh networking is a different thing than becoming an ISP, it's creating a seperate network, which may or may not be connected to the Internet.I think that something like SNET but more scalable is the ultimate solution.It's entirely possible in a densely populated city, as long as you can string cable between apartments/houses, and the OCCASIONAL WiFi hop is also totally okay (though it harms scalability).This can be done with consumer-grade WiFi and Ethernet equipment.If people could create a mesh network for their local cities/communities, then the many networks could be connected together, as they got bigger, the infrastructure (Ethernet cables and WiFi repeaters), could be improved to scale more (fiber optic cables on power lines).This would essentially be a way to create your own Internet, which would be far more censorship resilient, as the way a mesh network works is not hierarchical.This leaves two problems:1. How do we convince people to utilize such a network?2. When other networks are created, how will they be interconnected. (We might need to use the Internet to connect them).To answer #1, it needs to provide benefit for the users *now*, not later, maybe market it as a LAN for everyone in the neighborhood who wants to join, starting with your friends.#1 is the greatest issue, adoption has to happen in the early stages for it to grow. #2 Actually isn't too bad, the answer is litteraly "use the Internet." If worst came to worse, the locations of the devices routing data between subnets could be kept a secret.This would all pair extremely well with IPFS, the anonyminity concerns would be greatly diminished as the network isn't hierarchical, so figuring out where a local IPv6 address routes to is more difficult (especially with MAC address spoofing). IPFS could conserve bandwidth and preserve content.To scale, you'd want seperate subnets that could be connected in a way where you could still communicate directly with others, but also with people local to your subnet (once again, we're talking about Ethernet cables and WiFi repeaters, gotta save bandwidth).This is all just unhinged rambling, but I'm actually starting to think of it as a possiblity.
(DIR) Post #AOvy9aX4jr7qmGij8y by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T18:25:46.153365Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne >This is all just unhinged ramblingit isnt unhinged, its literally this kind of shit that gets something done. and ive said similar shit so much that ive been tired of saying it myself.
(DIR) Post #AOvyuGX8uakAMX0e2K by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T18:34:11.568674Z
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@ThighHighSock @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne It worked in cuba too because of the horrible state of their infrastructure. If things get bad in the USA (which they might eventually) I could see this taking off in bigger cities among the more technically inclined. By technically inclined I don't mean fatass know-it-all who doesn't know shit, I mean the dudes who have a Lain looking bedroom.
(DIR) Post #AOvz2NV4tSxwHmub9U by RamRanch@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:33:30.192818Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne Are you so blackpilled that you don't believe people should even try to criticize people if they have power? Does that include politicians? (((Certain groups)))? Who else should we be so afraid of that we scoff at people who try to talk about them?
(DIR) Post #AOvz2Nx5DLMpge0xns by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T18:35:40.125231Z
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@RamRanch @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne im not blackpilled, i just have a semblance of self-preservation that everyone else seems to lack.
(DIR) Post #AOvz5JbPqGB149HEIa by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T18:36:11.940553Z
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@RamRanch @opal @Charlamagne I mean your own instance doesn't let you post dox because aside from drama implications, posting dox would make it vastly harder to host.
(DIR) Post #AOw0kYxNlA6sVtmeie by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T18:54:51.086606Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne The best part about everything is that on a small scale it would take very little actual technical knowledge.You could have a central consumer grade router, use 10.0.0.0/8 as a subnet mask ( ipv6 would be good long term, but let's keep things simple :) ) Then string Ethernet cable to your nextdoor neighbor's house, put an additional WiFi router in there, configure it as a WiFi "bridge" (so that it doesn't result in a subnet within a subnet/double NAT).This could in theory be repeated many times, neighbor strings Ethernet cable to the next neighbor.Let's say the neighbor after that refuses, then use a WiFI repeater!You'd probably want to offer Internet connectivity, while also explaining how the network works. You'd want to make sure that the outbound Internet traffic was routed through a VPN or Tor (avoiding the letter from the ISP if someone pirates something).For the explanation of the network https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-captive-portal/ , setup a captive portal.Explain that the network can be used for LAN parties, and encourage the user to download IPFS.The technological setup is easy as hell, in theory at least, the issue is the human component. But I mean, all you'd have to do (in theory) is convince someone to plug in a WiFi repeater, they might do it for a few bucks a month.This way, you could be giving people free WiFi (with Internet connectivity) and also encouraging them to use the network for its intention.The only issue is, how do you prevent people from completely ignoring the local network aspect and doing nothing but using the shitty, centralized, Internet 🤮.
(DIR) Post #AOw1GKjKBpP9emMFJQ by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T19:00:35.653456Z
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@PhenomX6 @Charlamagne @coldacid @opal OpenWRT (https://openwrt.org/) would be a lifesaver for all of these things, consumer grade networking equipment is more powerful than you'd think.
(DIR) Post #AOw1cZ4vWVT4Wp3xIW by RamRanch@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:54:26.822665Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @Charlamagne Right, but it's important that /some/ instances do. It's fine to compartmentalize, but when a legal activity becomes impossible no matter where you are, there is an issue.
(DIR) Post #AOw1sdpTcyVdtcVC8O by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T19:07:31.626196Z
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@ThighHighSock @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne for a lot of things imo.Tomato for some routers too. It's kind of jank since it went forever with no active fork but it supports a lot of shit openwrt/ddwrt don't.
(DIR) Post #AOw27yyDJBZ7o6u6Hg by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T19:10:17.371314Z
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@PhenomX6 @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne Yes, and of course, I say to use openWRT because it's probably more extensive feature wise, but everything I've mentioned doing could be on most default router firmware, the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet, the captive portal, openVPN config, bridges, etc.
(DIR) Post #AOw2pGnitDxZYodcZ6 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T19:18:05.935688Z
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@ThighHighSock @opal @coldacid @Charlamagne I'm using tomato at home and it's great. You can set it up to do shit like dynamic dns too.
(DIR) Post #AOw3KvD4hU1brbaZTU by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T19:23:50.539349Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne >ipv6 would be good long term, but let's keep things simpleipv6-only keeps things simple
(DIR) Post #AOw4jOyFnkAz4NtRo0 by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T19:39:27.444230Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne I think that the best way to push something like this is to allow connection to the Internet in some capacity, whilst heavily encouraging the usage of local websites/applications/IPFS. Although, I'm also concerned that 99% of the users would ignore the local aspect and just use it for free (albeit, most likely slow and congested) Internet access, which would kinda ignore the point.However, being connected to the Internet necessitates IPv4 at this point in time. It would probably be possible to do both IPv4 and IPv6, though that would objectively add complexity.
(DIR) Post #AOw4o3WEzCUFzC0elU by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T19:40:18.746397Z
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@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne >I'm also concerned that 99% of the users would ignore the local aspect and just use it for freelet them try but don't cater to their needs unless they contribute, it's fine
(DIR) Post #AOwAMVOWLrfo3ae2gi by EbonyMawProphetofChaos@poa.st
2022-10-25T20:38:39.833340Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne He a person willing to answer the question (where the sidewalk ends) and keep going thru the process til he drops kiwi farms as an anonymous archive.* lbtq+ people will try to unravel user data things can't be fully scrubbed.(charge those people)*normy people get their win.* josh ghost from the internet.*we move josh being hunted lbtq to pay for his crimes(kiwifarm question) in a kangaroo court.(jail or death)🗿
(DIR) Post #AOwAMVqWfk4hSRkPL6 by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T20:42:32.984117Z
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@EbonyMawProphetofChaos @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne when the sidewalk ends, everyone will be there to see him jump off the cliff there to greet him.
(DIR) Post #AOwAyY2QyEgNGDSDGy by EbonyMawProphetofChaos@poa.st
2022-10-25T20:47:49.599560Z
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@opal @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne which is the best part about the "sidewalk end". it will be a wonderous occasion death internet 1.0Welcome the progress of internet 2.0 & cyberpunk🗿
(DIR) Post #AOwB1OwBGPqnu4tDbE by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-25T20:49:57.131734Z
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@EbonyMawProphetofChaos @PhenomX6 @Charlamagne i just want to see the good in people rather than watching them commit a slow, drawn-out suicide
(DIR) Post #AOwCV9XlA7cWnmDXrk by Doma_Kun@poa.st
2022-10-25T21:03:38.551004Z
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@Charlamagne Looks like I'm strolling on to a lost battle aren't I? Well people won't be able to spam walls of nigger (try harder) on my forums, so maybe I can sneak my website under the radar.
(DIR) Post #AOwCVAF0ZKDOxuS5HE by Charlamagne@poa.st
2022-10-25T21:06:31.150149Z
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@Doma_Kun You can have a nigger forum as long as you don’t piss many people off
(DIR) Post #AOwEuIGS4jBIzsEnC4 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2022-10-25T21:33:29.331801Z
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@opal @Charlamagne @EbonyMawProphetofChaos I know a lot of the userbase who left either due to dumb behavior from Josh or shit like the 2019 hack realized that.Since after all to make friends online you need to stop fighting everyone and chill to quote a friend.
(DIR) Post #AOwHpE14k2QAEjJufw by ThighHighSock@clubcyberia.co
2022-10-25T22:06:10.720406Z
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@PhenomX6 @Charlamagne @coldacid @opal Adding on to this, I'm inspired by i2p's outproxies, which allow connection to the Internet without anything being in the i2p protocol for exiting.A similar concept could be used between these kinds of subnets, one subnet could run a proxy that connects to another, and there could even be an application of some sort for "chaining" proxies together automatically.If network A has no outproxy to network B, but does have an outproxy to network C, and network C has an outproxy to network B, then an outproxy connection could go like:computer on network A --> proxy to network C --> proxy to network B --> computer on network BIt solves quite a few issues with interconnection, all while staying entirely within the application layer, and also allows for access to other devices on the local network without ANY risk of conjesting traffic (which is important when we're relying on consumer grade equipment).
(DIR) Post #AOwiM5Y9q1D2LK7pFg by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-26T03:03:23.121322Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne ipv6 is shit on the grounds that only autists can remember and parse it, while ipv4 is simple enough to read that school children can mess with it to play videogames on shitty pirate servers.
(DIR) Post #AOxTpt1ve9F62wlFaa by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-26T11:55:28.754025Z
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@nerthos @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne im tired of hearing this. neither ipv4 nor ipv6 are meant to be directly input. dns exists for humans.
(DIR) Post #AP19nh2Y27UDpWZDvs by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T06:29:47.936758Z
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@opal @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne DNS is too complicated to set up when you just want to do shitty multiplayer with your friends
(DIR) Post #AP1A4g7wgGThvCBu2S by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T06:32:54.075597Z
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@nerthos @opal @Charlamagne @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @coldacid is it really shitty multiplayer if you don't even share the same keyboard with your friend
(DIR) Post #AP1AfLN6oOBUGRlbkG by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T06:39:30.816334Z
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@hakui @opal @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne Somehow rigging 5 computers to play aoe2 as a bunch of kids with no knowledge of networking falls into "shitty multiplayer" well enough for me.Also hamachi pirate servers of anything from mu online to world of warcraft.
(DIR) Post #AP1B00dj5Vcm2wOSzg by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T06:43:15.406720Z
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@nerthos @Charlamagne @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @coldacid @opal hamachi works fine but playing touhou hisouten on the same laptop after school is something people today won't get to experience
(DIR) Post #AP1D7bzonQENqATogK by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T07:07:02.350053Z
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@hakui Used to do that a lot with MAME
(DIR) Post #AP1DEkPzsfnfzM7xqq by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T07:08:19.908032Z
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@nerthos rember when you had to try several keymappings to find one that doesn't jam when you press too many of them the same time
(DIR) Post #AP1DJbjDcL1aU8R46K by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T07:09:11.784806Z
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@hakui The wonders of grid key recognitionAlso in the case of mame, someone hitting the tilt button
(DIR) Post #AP1DQgKwshSOnzSNii by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T07:10:29.263365Z
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@nerthos didn't actually touch mame myself so
(DIR) Post #AP1DfqhSdLzpI1DdJY by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T07:13:12.489040Z
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@hakui Since it's an arcade emulator, it had a button to simulate the tilt input that machines had since pinball, as it was sometimes used for debug and configuration functions. If you hit it mid game it'd freeze the game and make a sustained annoying noise until you hit the reset button, since in real machines it was designed as anti-cheat to freeze the machine and notify the owner
(DIR) Post #AP1DlxHh49a1Rr4uGm by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T07:14:20.313365Z
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@nerthos TIL what tilt meant :praise:
(DIR) Post #AP1E134bpDGhkK9fpA by nerthos@shitposter.club
2022-10-28T07:16:58.779621Z
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@hakui It's just "to force an inclination on something by pushing/lifting it", for pinball it was a genuine cheating strategy
(DIR) Post #AP1ETRKPEvfL4z58nQ by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-10-28T07:22:11.494552Z
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@nerthos yeah it just didn't come to mind because i've only ever played pinball on the computer
(DIR) Post #AP1YsBUxEKKWJ55mpU by opal@ap.maladaptive.art
2022-10-28T11:10:45.253326Z
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@nerthos @ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @coldacid @Charlamagne dhcp already shares device hostnames over a network.