Post AOvsWllqWPYWZGIe5Q by purgedbaptist@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AOvpKPBoLvTVCCrDWq by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:46:53.328567Z
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@bebe Hello, I know you've talked about which versions of the Bible are good before, so I thought I'd ask you. The only Bible I have is the Saint Joseph Edition of the New American Bible I got at my first Communion. Are there problems with this version? Should I get another one? Which version is the best?
(DIR) Post #AOvpYX8vZvfjuwFHea by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:49:26.361857Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe I always read king James Bible
(DIR) Post #AOvpjj9dGEbAM5ue6S by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:51:27.748189Z
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@Dan_Hulson @bebe But I am Catholic and I was under the impression that we don't like it for some reason. I have never seen a Catholic recommend the KJV
(DIR) Post #AOvpzpAAgk1XclqAV6 by doorroo@mirr0r.city
2022-10-25T16:54:22.275001Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe Catholics tend not to recommend KJV because KJV was translated with the Church of England, not of Rome, in mind. it isn't condemned but many Catholics don't believe it's fitting to read
(DIR) Post #AOvq6jAfMgjJ4FMbh2 by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T16:55:37.120960Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe Sorry brother, I'm a protestant and not really knowledgeable on this kind of thing. Perhaps it was because King James was a protestant
(DIR) Post #AOvrgr9dGCuQCrfgki by job384@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:13:21.280911Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe The KJV is explicitly anti-Catholic and was translated to be so. I point this out not to start a hellthread over sectarianism and translations but to stress that a Catholic cannot reasonably read it for spiritual or theological purposes.If you are looking for a translation that is aesthetically pleasing and spiritually nourishing, I would recommend Ronald Knox’s translation. I find the ESV-CE is a good touchstone to use for discussions with our Protestant brothers.Bebe will give you a much better answer, of coirse. @istvan would also be able to help, I think.
(DIR) Post #AOvrnM6N6ykxvSFH7Y by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:14:31.687434Z
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@job384 @Dan_Hulson @bebe @istvan Thank you
(DIR) Post #AOvroSQb4nL5psEO5Q by purgedbaptist@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:14:43.580978Z
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@job384 @KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe @istvan Please identify which verses are "anti-catholic" that aren't faithful to the greek / hebrew. It's catholicism that is anti-Gospel, not the other way around.
(DIR) Post #AOvrwV2lEflmGRutiC by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:16:10.845655Z
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@purgedbaptist @job384 @KonataWagner1066 @bebe @istvan Please lets try to avoid a hellthread Christian bros
(DIR) Post #AOvs0NAWSKa901OU88 by job384@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:16:52.908835Z
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@purgedbaptist @KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe @istvan Not starting a hellthread over this. I am helping a fellow Catholic find a translation of the Bible that is licit and meets the needs and responsibilities of a Catholic.
(DIR) Post #AOvs6gkAacQDRo4yTg by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:18:01.331950Z
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@job384 @purgedbaptist @Dan_Hulson @bebe @istvan I left the message public to possibly get suggestions from several people, but it looks like that was a mistake
(DIR) Post #AOvs8QFOtRysreVvVo by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:18:18.997018Z
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>but to stress that a Catholic cannot reasonably read it for spiritual or theological purposes.Gotta say, I agree with @purgedbaptist This is a extremely inflammatory and unfounded claim. If you say something like this, you better be able to back it up.
(DIR) Post #AOvsBtoxOdAjSBnrHc by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:18:57.248512Z
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If you want a Catholic translation that is roughly contemporary to the KJV, go with Douay-Rheims. It was a completed about 30 years earlier.
(DIR) Post #AOvsDI84VJYt8NPL16 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:19:11.920791Z
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>but to stress that a Catholic cannot reasonably read it for spiritual or theological purposes.Gotta say, I agree with @purgedbaptist This is a extremely inflammatory and unfounded claim. If you say something like this, you better be able to back it up.If your denomination is tied to a translation, you are worshiping idols, not God.
(DIR) Post #AOvsDbmTRKAY5BSN84 by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:19:16.418870Z
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@istvan @job384 @Dan_Hulson @bebe Thank you
(DIR) Post #AOvsKwIPYzTVjhtHwO by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:20:34.836273Z
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if you're reading the OT, may I suggest you read the LXX, just like Jesus did.
(DIR) Post #AOvsSQ0NVIkbu91RFg by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:21:56.992727Z
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@Xenophon @istvan @Dan_Hulson @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist Ok let me just teach myself several new languages. Gtfo
(DIR) Post #AOvsVuYCOQ9DVaVUxM by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:22:34.856564Z
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@Xenophon @istvan @Dan_Hulson @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist You're not here to help. You're here to be inflammatory for internet upcummies
(DIR) Post #AOvsWllqWPYWZGIe5Q by purgedbaptist@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:22:44.300925Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Xenophon @istvan @Dan_Hulson @bebe @job384 So you can't read the original languages but believe the KJV got it wrong? Idiot.
(DIR) Post #AOvscz9DhQ0rnFCFTE by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:23:50.672256Z
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How am I being inflammatory? The LXX is translated into English.https://www.biblestudytools.com/lxx/
(DIR) Post #AOvseSxMMBBsX6M4ky by Saber@shortstackran.ch
2022-10-25T17:24:06.435999Z
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@job384 @istvan @Dan_Hulson @KonataWagner1066 @bebe KJV as a protestant Bible leaves out the 7 books of the apocrypha because they mention prayers for the dead and purgatory. It also makes a mess of the letters of the New Testament, especially the verses that talk about faith without works being dead. The language is however quite beautiful.If you want something that reads like the KJV, get a copy of the Douay-Rheims (Catholic English translation contemporary with King James). For personal study I like the RSV Catholic Edition since it's a nice balance for readability.Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AOvshCGgrM4PdzhOqm by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:24:37.304496Z
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@Saber @job384 @istvan @Dan_Hulson @bebe Thank you
(DIR) Post #AOvsicgG90oLqmL3vE by job384@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:24:52.748622Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @purgedbaptist @Dan_Hulson @bebe @istvan Good luck. Give the Knox a try. You can compare it side by side the Douay at http://catholicbible.online/knox/NT Muting the thread now.
(DIR) Post #AOvsjol6iuetbFAyki by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:25:05.661103Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist There is an English version and Xeno is quite knowledgeable about these things
(DIR) Post #AOvsp3c8v1b57YTuOu by Honksaw_Duggan@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:26:01.319473Z
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Thats crazy to consider, ive never been to a Church where everyone had the same Bible translation
(DIR) Post #AOvsyGGbFKduy5nGb2 by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:27:42.232316Z
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@Dan_Hulson @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist I'm not changing denominations
(DIR) Post #AOvt2dP9A7VFt4sQ2i by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:28:29.650252Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist Why would you change denominations?
(DIR) Post #AOvt4v0wf2WB58e62C by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:28:54.548235Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist >Insisting on being a papistBut why?
(DIR) Post #AOvt531EtpVTuMqRbU by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:28:55.448245Z
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I assume if it's in a pew, it's probably the same, but a lot of churches don't even have bibles in their pews, just the hymnals. The catholic churches I've been to for the most part never had a bible.But I also don't remember being told by my priest which version I must use, even though I guess they probably use the same one, so whatever my confirmation bible was. 🤷 Revised Standard and New American Standard have Apocrypha so I'd start there.
(DIR) Post #AOvtL0Kaf1dGCmVMZc by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:31:48.896987Z
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@Jens_Rasmussen @Dan_Hulson @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist >a religious DaneI'm skeptical
(DIR) Post #AOvtLgWPnS2x3cMOps by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:31:56.323736Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe The didache is supposed to be very good. I would say stick with KJ version, didache if you want to spend the money, or one of the catholic translations.
(DIR) Post #AOvtRFjSJSTFhy7BYm by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:32:56.704521Z
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@JustJohnny @bebe Thank you for the good faith answer but I'm really only interested in sticking to Catholic versions
(DIR) Post #AOvtbGQ6bsyojmq07E by courteous_crocodile@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:33:26.953573Z
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@Dan_Hulson @purgedbaptist @job384 @KonataWagner1066 @bebe @istvan this, we all hate kikes and Muslims, that's all that matters for now
(DIR) Post #AOvtdNmIDzZ88XE4O0 by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:35:07.334643Z
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Typically a Catholic Church will provide a Missalette and a Hymnal.The Missalette is an abbreviated Missal to only include all the readings and responses for each daily mass throughout the current liturgical year.
(DIR) Post #AOvtkc99CW2aj9MeCu by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:36:26.646805Z
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@courteous_crocodile @Dan_Hulson People on here don't know how to choose their battles
(DIR) Post #AOvttCBL6dtoo0TuU4 by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:37:59.593024Z
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@Jens_Rasmussen @KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist Jesus Christ established his church, it was the catholic church, and the Holy Spirit was passed on through thr laying on of hands/apostolic succession. He said he would be with us until the end of time and that the gates of hell shall not prevail against His church, and I do not think Jesus was a liar. Not to be an asshole, but the truth, God's teachings are not a buffet table where you pick and choose only what you want, ultimately it's all ot nothing, you accept God and all his truth, or you don't...this is why people are catholic--they choose God over their ego and the world.
(DIR) Post #AOvtxQvUEGULh05Smu by Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:38:45.625022Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @Xenophon @istvan @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist I'm not, but I participate in Catholic vs. Protestant banter on the side of protestants, because being protestant is a part my cultural identity as a Dane.And also because I think it makes more sense theologically, even if I'm not faithful believer.>But most Danes don't care about "being protestant" as a part of their cultural identityMost Danes, like in all other European countries unfortunately, don't even care about their cultural identity at all.
(DIR) Post #AOvtxazknFqMv8A0pM by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:38:47.284476Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @courteous_crocodile @Dan_Hulson Nkoooooo don't you see the perfect time to argue about the number of angels that can simultaneously dance upon the head of a pin is when the Ottomans are blowing up your walls and kikes are opening the gates for them!!!11111🔯one-!1
(DIR) Post #AOvtypOWk2olryKrzc by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:39:00.721463Z
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@courteous_crocodile @Dan_Hulson Calling me an idiot for not personally learning several dead ancient languages and comparing them with several translations and ignoring the faith of my ancestors will surely convince me, this isn't just me jerking myself off for internet points I swear!
(DIR) Post #AOvu1RKCglcK5TYhkG by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:39:29.133110Z
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@RupertvonRipp @courteous_crocodile @Dan_Hulson Plus I like, asked a specific question
(DIR) Post #AOvu4I8HK2FSRkLBEO by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:39:59.215353Z
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Alternatively, just learn to read the Vulgate. It’s really not that hard.Unless you are pursuing a doctorate of divinity or becoming a professional full-time biblical scholar I don’t think there is a reason to learn Koine Greek or Ancient Hebrew.I appreciate and trust in the work of St. Jerome. The Vulgate was good enough for the clergy for around 1600 years. I don’t put myself above them.
(DIR) Post #AOvuAvkmvOGH4CWEoi by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:41:11.904365Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe I thought your guys' go to was Douay-Rheims?
(DIR) Post #AOvuG2FYCQd8f7LGdc by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:42:07.325209Z
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@istvan @Saber @Dan_Hulson @bebe @job384 Isn't the Vulgate in Latin? You're overestimating my capabilities, but thanks for taking the time to sincerely answer my question
(DIR) Post #AOvuO47H8xuilfIgsa by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:43:34.418227Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe That's what I thought but wanted to make sure and wanted to see if there were others I should consider. I was also curious if there was anything objectionable about my version
(DIR) Post #AOvuR0ptnPkXSlZthY by sparky@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:43:18.030303Z
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@Dan_Hulson @KonataWagner1066 @bebe Taking this opportunity to poast my favorite baptist taliban meme
(DIR) Post #AOvuS1rVT1T8vzoZSC by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:44:17.419567Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe Not to imply reading it is better than not, of course
(DIR) Post #AOvuSW7qwoN0nNh368 by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:44:22.615258Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe Can always ask your priest
(DIR) Post #AOvuY7Pvj40ltvoswy by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:45:22.620107Z
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This is why I get annoyed when I see Catholics shopping for a parish.You have a parish: your home falls within the boundaries of a parish established by a diocese or vicarate, and that pastor is charged by God with responsibility for your soul. Maybe God put you under him because you both have something to learn from each other.The idea of hunting around for a church that says what you want to hear just strikes me as extremely Protestant, and it’s probably only a problem with American Catholics.You go to mass because mass is a communal prayer to God. The pastor is the leader of your combined worship. He isn’t there to entertain you. If he is preaching heresy then record it and send it to the bishop and get him corrected for the sake of his soul.
(DIR) Post #AOvuYo0DOXzXyd7SL2 by DemonSixOne@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:45:30.913613Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe Not Catholic, but the ones I do know use/have mentioned the Douay–Rheims translation.
(DIR) Post #AOvuZ44hdd5XpBLGYS by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:45:33.700353Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe True but I get the sense he's kind of a lib
(DIR) Post #AOvugqbJcNZULuJ7J2 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:46:56.398497Z
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you can say this, but where I grew up, they built another large catholic church nearby, and all the shitlibs go to one, and all the republicucks go to the other.
(DIR) Post #AOvum9qFVa0FTUpBlA by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:47:55.552816Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe That sucks. When I started attending the Orthodox church I was eventually baptized in, I didn't realize I was walking into probably the most non-libtard parish in the area. Also we have the best potlucks after Divine Liturgy
(DIR) Post #AOvumgb9iiXP4F16Jc by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:48:00.501954Z
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The Vulgate is in Latin. Latin is not an exceptionally hard language. You can learn a lot of Latin very easily if you ever studied French, Spanish, Romanian, or Italian, and you just read a facing translation of the Vulgate beside your study translation.
(DIR) Post #AOvut0YCS15ogaeH8C by koropokkur@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:49:00.260525Z
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I'm Cathoilc and use KJV as reference for clarity on certain passages.KJV uses words that are more specific/verbose than standard interpretations.
(DIR) Post #AOvuzux9f1MfLvcFRw by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:50:24.904676Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe Don't tell the prots this but if I were to ever change denominations that would probably be the direction I'd go
(DIR) Post #AOvv5YyKIaGWuur7rs by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:51:25.492896Z
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And I’m sure the community is all the more divided and damaged for it.I believe there are more good reasons to submit and attend to your assigned parish than reasons to shop around, not the least of which is cultivating your own piety and humility.In other words: Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it right.
(DIR) Post #AOvvBLMToaIsRUuTDc by Paultron@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:52:28.716931Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe technically it is not a change in denomination friend as Rome still observes unbroken lines of apostolic succession in the Eastern churches so we are still in the same church, albeit with severe political issues and a few bad actor schismatic voicesthis is why it is ok to take Communion in their churches if you are in an area without a Roman church
(DIR) Post #AOvvFkAXWVxqXWQI0e by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T17:53:15.811225Z
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yeah, but you can't stop a priest from politicizing his mass. Before the new church, you knew which services to attend based on who was giving the mass, because you didn't want to sit there and have some asshole tell you why God says killing babies is okay, etc. If these priests were impartial and stuck to evergreen topics and the bible, I'd agree, but they politicize everything. And maybe that is an American thing, I don't know.
(DIR) Post #AOvvIOMb3J3RmPKEZU by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:53:45.103081Z
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@Paultron @KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe But an Orthodox priest won't administer the Mysteries to a Roman Catholic so this sentiment is not a two way street
(DIR) Post #AOvvIhh9B7mZje5Pk0 by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:53:48.538245Z
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@Paultron @Ottovonshitpost @Dan_Hulson @bebe TIL more about what the word "denomination" means. Thank you friend. I did know that it was ok to take Communion from them, though
(DIR) Post #AOvvO7Piz1UWwuWFEW by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:54:47.323401Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe I'm guessing Mysteries are Orthodox Sacraments?
(DIR) Post #AOvvVlcBun6depztTM by MachineMadeDog@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:56:10.309945Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @KonataWagner1066 @Dan_Hulson @bebe >most non-libtard parish in the area. Also we have the best potlucks after Divine Liturgythese are relatedas far as catholic bibles go the douay rheims is fine. i know a lot of the nonlibtard catholics also advise that the revised second edition catholic bible, also called the ignatius bible. its supposed to be a closer translation that doesnt change anything that would offend "modern sensibilities." i have a much too fancy douay rheims and im just used to the language of it personally
(DIR) Post #AOvvWjfocRejvS9dS4 by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:56:20.645623Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe Yes, Mystery from Greek "Mysterion", Sacrament is Latin for the same word
(DIR) Post #AOvvZ6I9Un4YedDJTc by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2022-10-25T17:56:46.359817Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Paultron @Ottovonshitpost @bebe Let's be honest there is no need to get spergy about denomination I have taken Communion in Catholic and Protestant Churches but I'm still a Protestant
(DIR) Post #AOvvpQT8FHATrk8N5k by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T17:59:42.670106Z
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I had to sit and listen to the priest talk about Trump and “Build the wall” and how that was evil and selfish. After mass I talked to him about it and asked him to look at Archbishop Fulton Sheen’s lecture “False Compassion”.The next year, in the Christmas bag for every parishioner was a copy of the print edition of The Wisdom of Fulton Sheen. I have no way of knowing whether or not those events are connected.It didn’t stop the pastor from veering into asinine political commentary, but I imagine at least a few families lives were bettered by receiving those books.
(DIR) Post #AOvvvmUVHSNBu5o1vk by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:00:52.296968Z
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@Dan_Hulson @Paultron @Ottovonshitpost @bebe It may seem spergy to you, but I was taught that it wouldn't fulfill my Sunday obligation. Not that it would be a bad thing to go necessarily
(DIR) Post #AOvwBLT7W5eWjFa3FY by krang@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:03:41.158386Z
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@Dan_Hulson @KonataWagner1066 @Paultron @Ottovonshitpost @bebe A half cath
(DIR) Post #AOvwCE24eLhLxILjEG by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:03:50.653580Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe What kind of Christian did you grow up as, if you don't mind me asking?
(DIR) Post #AOvwIXKhntvXYJ4d3Q by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:04:58.959629Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe I didn't. I went to a megachurch for a few years in high school, nothing before that, and nothing after that til 2018
(DIR) Post #AOvwJcX5xMeDy8NyAS by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T18:05:09.393531Z
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I'm glad that worked for you. I don't think anyone should be making political comments no matter which direction. I watched one priest openly say that you can't be a Catholic and vote democrat, to which I agree, and he also said that isn't an endorsement of republicans because they aren't good either, but while this is biblically sound (abortion is a sin), it's still a line too far. It's one thing to make a sermon about how abortion is wrong and a sin, but another to tell someone what they can and cannot do politically, if for no other reason than it's just obnoxious.
(DIR) Post #AOvwOTjw4klg97hyTI by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:06:03.489330Z
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@Ottovonshitpost @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe Interesting! Are you the only Christian in your family then?
(DIR) Post #AOvwYwNMSlKpr38btA by Ottovonshitpost@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:07:56.871822Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @Paultron @Dan_Hulson @bebe I might as well be. Mom and dad stopped going to the megachurch. I sent them a phone number of a deacon who serves at one of the Orthodox churches near them but COVID has given them the excuse they wanted to not get up on Sunday mornings
(DIR) Post #AOvwgqhrQQskaWUts0 by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:09:22.442255Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe NAB sucks but it's what the USCCB chose, they did an annoying thing where they started reordering certain verses based on hermaneutical evidence that I think is dubious and some word choice that I find annoying like gender neutral terminology but it's also what you're going to see in the Missal at church. It's not horrible, but not really good either. The plus side is the language is easier to read that Douay-Rheims.
(DIR) Post #AOvwph4qb0shKVSzmS by grey@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:10:58.367245Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe The New American Bible should be fine. Our church appears to use that for any Old Testament readings during services (Gospel and Epistle readings are KJV). The correct answer to any question of this nature should be to ask your priest what he recommends you use for personal study. The answers we've gotten are any of KJV, NKJV and EOB for New Testament, and the modified NKJV in the Orthodox Study Bible for Old Testament. If you are interested in this from an Orthodox perspective, this is a good roundup: saintjonah.org/articles/translations.htm
(DIR) Post #AOvx7RI0290DZq5200 by istvan@bozgor.org
2022-10-25T18:14:10.226184Z
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It sounds to me like he was stumbling over the old trope that if you are a Catholic you cannot be a Democrat because of abortion and other issues and you cannot be a Republican because of the death penalty and other issues. (Note: This occurred in 2018 with a revision of CCC 2267.)The Catholic Church in America has long positioned itself as an outsider whose teachings are not compatible with either party.Practically speaking, it is almost impossible to be engaged in US political parties as a Catholic and not find yourself having to defend something that is an abomination.There is nothing wrong with a sermon that tells someone you cannot participate in or facilitate an abortion and still call yourself Catholic. Anyone who would do this is scandalizing the whole congregation and should be excommunicated to prevent them from further damaging themselves or others until they recant (see Nancy Pelosi).
(DIR) Post #AOvxNGdBQdqB9cXIiO by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
2022-10-25T18:17:01.394968Z
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I see no problem with capital punishment. There are rules on stoning we should still be following 🤷
(DIR) Post #AOvytUSXeOXhGMUICW by LouisConde@poa.st
2022-10-25T18:34:04.105531Z
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@KonataWagner1066 @bebe I forgot to add, whenever they changed the order they marked it in asterisks and kept the original numbering so you can tell what the traditional order is. I had a professor who was on the committee for the NAB and he used to go at length about all of his gripes with how it turned out.
(DIR) Post #AOw3PfkvaLnHNjgl3g by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-10-25T19:24:42.591262Z
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@istvan @Xenophon @Dan_Hulson @Jens_Rasmussen @KonataWagner1066 @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist I will say there are arguments which I am not married to which are about righteous authority, God putting rulers in place who should be obeyed, and the argument is that if such a ruler were to put someone to death it may be just...we lack such leaders here, but it's an interesting angle.
(DIR) Post #AOw3bitxiPsIc4f1Lk by JustJohnny@poa.st
2022-10-25T19:26:53.225739Z
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@Xenophon @istvan @Dan_Hulson @Jens_Rasmussen @KonataWagner1066 @bebe @job384 @purgedbaptist I disagree, if a whole party proves itself to be against God, the church can and should tell people who not to support.
(DIR) Post #AOxWwr0VriuRf873Oy by bebe@poa.st
2022-10-26T12:30:21.006161Z
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@KonataWagner1066 The Douay Rheims version is preferable. I have not read the New American Bible much but it is at least a Catholic translation, although it seems that it was made to incorporate the doctrines of Vatican II, so it does have some of the libtard influence. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AOxY3j4NsLAJ1elRGC by bebe@poa.st
2022-10-26T12:42:48.438880Z
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@Xenophon @Honksaw_Duggan @istvan @Dan_Hulson @KonataWagner1066 @job384 @purgedbaptist I am sure if you brought in a Jehovah's witness bible that says Jesus is not God your pastor would probably tell you it is wrong. The reason the Church has an approved list of translations is so that people will not read the bad ones and think they are accurate. Thank you friend.
(DIR) Post #AOxYBwt0OF62C3MYKW by KonataWagner1066@poa.st
2022-10-26T12:44:17.790010Z
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@bebe Thank you
(DIR) Post #AOxYPSPCVtBFiHraDY by bebe@poa.st
2022-10-26T12:46:43.969556Z
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@KonataWagner1066 Yes you are welcome friend.