Post AOh2RGSmrzKkXYilLE by thor@berserker.town
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(DIR) Post #AOg78z1PHf5FqX3Y36 by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T02:49:47Z
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huh, this is nuts...Russia used to provide 40% of Europe's gas, but now Norway is the one doing that, and Russia is at 9%.our tiny country is providing 40% of Europe's gas, lol, wtf
(DIR) Post #AOg7939Lw3ogeKnwzQ by Jessica@fedi.absturztau.be
2022-10-18T02:50:24.077763Z
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@thor pretty poggers
(DIR) Post #AOgESJlH65rpLog2dM by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2022-10-18T04:13:02.615022Z
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maybe that will mean things in Norway will finally get less expensive than everyone around you 😋
(DIR) Post #AOgFmjSrLNPQoTMUNM by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
2022-10-18T04:27:57.022610Z
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@thor maybe Norway is secretly trying to take over Europe
(DIR) Post #AOgHGuKdbTaN9wT7VA by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T04:31:01Z
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@genmaicha we had a go at that some 1000 years ago and had some success... :sticker_viking_raid:
(DIR) Post #AOh2RBcsr1RHXQPFsu by beschissen@mstdn.social
2022-10-18T11:16:58Z
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@thor Grab that 9% from Russia and make Europe even happier.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RC5F9a7kxNfu5Y by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T12:23:12Z
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@beschissen i think we're maxed out
(DIR) Post #AOh2RCWtUmF4L8bzBg by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T12:43:22Z
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@thor @beschissen If the prices get high enough maybe it'll be worth it to sell from those massive strategic reserves. Or just to cover those last 9% and help Europe not fund the Russian army.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RD6LMybA75CIRU by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T12:48:59Z
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@clacke @beschissen strategic reserves is news to me. don't think the media has ever mentioned those.i think the offshore industry would only be too happy to sell more.it's not the government that controls prices or how much is sold. the government just issues licenses to oil companies.building more infrastructure takes time. demand for our gas, and also our electricity, is unusually high these days. some accuse Norway of being war profiteers.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RDXHko9JSdnoR6 by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T13:16:40Z
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@thor @beschissen Yeah, I'm trying and failing to find a reference. Maybe I'm just assuming they have them, but it would make sense to me as a buffer complementary to the enormous sovereign wealth fund to ride down gently when we reach peak oil.
(DIR) Post #AOh2REelaTjAw8JIjg by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T12:51:42Z
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@clacke @beschissen the EU appears to be pushing for a price cap, a position the Norwegian government doesn't share.Norway's approach to these skyrocketing energy prices? subsidise the electricity bills.it's funny how relative the perspectives are. domestically, the government has been criticised for being too slow with implementing the subsidies. meanwhile, in much of Europe, there are no subsidies at all...
(DIR) Post #AOh2RF3E7XIG9zkprU by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:18:32Z
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@clacke @beschissen i'm not sure if gas is a thing we've given much thought until now.we have this mentality that we're an *oil* country. gas has been secondary.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RFau6KERqRVjM0 by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T13:20:30Z
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@thor @beschissen Oh yeah.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RG3cNZCVHUwf6u by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:23:04Z
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@clacke @beschissen when it comes to our pipelines and infrastructure, i heard on the radio that experts have been warning that national security pertaining to those has been neglected.Norway has suddenly found itself in a position where Russia might be very interested in wreaking havoc on our infrastructure.the defense/intelligence experts are saying "told you so"
(DIR) Post #AOh2RGSmrzKkXYilLE by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:24:21Z
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@clacke @beschissen i think the general attitude has been "who would want to attack us? we're so small."but then... oh... we're providing 40% of Europe's gas.Putin might actually want to pull some shit on us.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RGbIMM8gxwhYbQ by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:19:52Z
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@clacke @beschissen yes, the petroleum industry has been selling gas, but, well, i do feel that the general public, and perhaps also our politicians, have been suddenly made aware of gas as a thing to pay attention to.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RGnLdXmRZKLBOC by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-18T13:33:02Z
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@thor @clacke @beschissen Russia has penerrated, or at leadt attempted to, all European energy distribution infrastructure in tge past ten years. I heard two years ago that Danish power grid had been targeted by Ivan.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RoK6ykb1YUvJXU by beschissen@mstdn.social
2022-10-18T13:28:04Z
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@thor @clacke@libranet.de I think he's been looking at Finland, since it's a border country. I'm not sure Putin knows what he wants to do, other than something.
(DIR) Post #AOh2Rol3Ma9Au3WpX6 by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:29:06Z
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@beschissen as i understand it, doing anything to Finland would be a nightmare.they're *very* prepared for a Russian invasion. i believe that's one of the main scenarios the Finnish army practices for.
(DIR) Post #AOh2RpEpZrxyOPSbwm by Arrian@jvpiter.net
2022-10-18T13:33:09.468024Z
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>i believe that's one of the main scenarios the Finnish army practices for.It's pretty much the only scenario it practices for. During Soviet Union there were theater practices against Sweden invading though for political reasons 😂
(DIR) Post #AOh2XehLg6HHROZz16 by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-18T13:34:13Z
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@thor @beschissen Finland as a nation was born in a Russian cauldron. Just like Ukraine, they KNOW their neighbour intimately.
(DIR) Post #AOh327N7dNVd3ge0FU by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:39:43Z
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@neglesaks @beschissen well, Sweden was in the picture before Russiabut yes, Finland has a Soviet history in there
(DIR) Post #AOh3SWl9rkPdKHToUC by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:34:27Z
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@Arrian @beschissen for completeness: the main scenario that the Norwegian army practices for is ALSO an invasion by Russia.but seeing as the Finnish have been preparing to defend themselves *without* NATO for decades, i suspect they're better prepared than we are...
(DIR) Post #AOh3SXI7tAmeyWu8sC by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T13:39:40Z
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@thor @Arrian @beschissen In the 80s the Swedish military trained for an attack from Russia, like they had for hundreds of years.In the 90s this changed completely. We trained for an attack from ... an unnamed enemy with great military resources, that might attack from e.g. the east of Sweden. Completely different scenario. 😁
(DIR) Post #AOh3SYMPuhoII7v5CS by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:36:03Z
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@Arrian @beschissen in Norway, the general scheme for defence if Russia tried to invade is basically "try to hold them back until NATO reinforcements come"Finland wasn't a NATO member, so it had to prepare to fight it out on its own.
(DIR) Post #AOh4Nu4zpqmw9r7Nk8 by beschissen@mstdn.social
2022-10-18T13:29:41Z
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@thor @clacke@libranet.de I guess some don't know where gas comes from.
(DIR) Post #AOh4NuYQ4SK9d6ssbY by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T13:43:19Z
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@beschissen @thor You don't automatically get gas if you drill for oil. Different equipment and infra.
(DIR) Post #AOh4Nv7VxyOfNxIuJ6 by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:44:37Z
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@clacke @beschissen as a Norwegian, i should know that, but i don't. being from this country doesn't automatically make you an expert on that industry.i sort of just assumed the gas was a byproduct of oil exploitation.
(DIR) Post #AOh4NvZWHqnYmoPGxU by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:46:07Z
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@clacke @beschissen i see the oil platforms and they have this thing that burns off excess gas and i assumed that if you just put that in a pipeline instead of burning it, that's our gas industry
(DIR) Post #AOh4Nw2aXm3CEy0UGe by clacke@libranet.de
2022-10-18T13:51:39Z
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@thor @beschissen ... but then you have to do that. =)When you drill, you might find a pocket with mostly oil or mostly gas and you'll choose which one you drill for depending on which one you're good at. There will often be one where there is the other, but the proportions vary.
(DIR) Post #AOh4NwNVI0mTHpnBrs by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:54:35Z
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@clacke @beschissen maybe you should work in the Norwegian offshore industry. 😏 from what i've heard, it's hard work, but you get extended periods of time off.basically, you cycle between "lots of work" and "vacation", and you get paid handsomely.
(DIR) Post #AOh4NzqKPIcW26IkiG by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:48:37Z
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@clacke @beschissen i don't know how life is for people setting up new oil platforms these days, but back in the 70s, when this whole oil thing was getting off the ground, you had deep sea divers going down, and it was dangerous work. people lost their lives and were permanently incapacitated from that work. it took decades before they got compensated for the workplace injuries, despite contributing massively to society.
(DIR) Post #AOh4O1K8tw3ycrG4p6 by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-18T13:50:00Z
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@clacke @beschissen in reacent years, feature films and TV series have been made about the wild business deals and hazardous conditions people worked under to make Norway the oil country happen.
(DIR) Post #AOh5kGsRr3v5BkTivg by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-10-18T14:10:09Z
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@thor @beschissen Finns can stand stronger drink that Russkies, and more Black Metal.