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 (DIR) Post #AOTIVoblUQsspxptaq by YeetLibs@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:27:15.683293Z
       
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       Found the faggot again
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTIasKb4hizpeDcQa by Groomschild@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:28:10.935776Z
       
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       @YeetLibs I quess this means that Russia is going to win the war soon now
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTIf4H2c9Ms1uYRyy by RowdyRamzan@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:28:56.430462Z
       
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       @YeetLibs Confirms my theory he left over Russia not losing in May after all of his talk of imminent  collapse
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTImx6f98ca7KSZCC by Xeraser@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:30:20.425149Z
       
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       @YeetLibs OH MY GOD ARE YOU SERIOUSHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHLITERALLY WHORING HIMSELF OUT FOR CLOUT LMAO
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTIsiTMT3twT6pEdk by lina@eientei.org
       2022-10-11T22:31:24.113290Z
       
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       @Xeraser @YeetLibs come to think of it, i don't think he was ever banned for being transphobic, was he?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTIu7q3dukZQh75ay by 0vtcast@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:29:10.426511Z
       
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       @YeetLibs bad news: Fallout IRLGood news: globohomo will not make it
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJ6MeGPFIgpuQt5U by Xeraser@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:33:52.233708Z
       
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       @lina @YeetLibs He'd absolutely scream "trans right" if it could get him enough clout
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJ89xwWxzq55Uffk by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:34:11.579467Z
       
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       @lina @Xeraser @YeetLibs Pretty sure he's on a different account than he used to be
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJ9dBZNTy0zhZL2u by Gerfand@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:34:27.790188Z
       
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       @YeetLibs I posted it just now
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJ9ycDhalLSRCQ08 by DrRyanSkelton@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:34:31.234886Z
       
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       @YeetLibs If Russia currently has that territory does that mean Russia has won the war?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJCk6c6bgDKDjbcG by lina@eientei.org
       2022-10-11T22:35:01.333496Z
       
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       @DrRyanSkelton @Xeraser @YeetLibs he could've kept his crown but he chose to chase clout
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJYb8a87N5si4oIy by H_A_Copington@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:35:25.826696Z
       
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       @YeetLibs He doesn't deserve his Francesca pfp.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJk6DstYGVTd2c3k by YeetLibs@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:41:02.961838Z
       
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       @Gerfand my crop is better
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJlP1cTTaE52vSgi by nameredacted@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:41:17.380748Z
       
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       @DrRyanSkelton @YeetLibs No taking land is only winning if ukraine is doing it, if russia is killing more people taking more land its because ukraine is a playing mega brain 4D chess move.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJpIJhMGF6QuEnpI by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2022-10-11T22:41:56.752340Z
       
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       @YeetLibs @Gerfand yours is full of tadpoles
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTJrBUNiLJ7pv8UDo by Curvin@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:42:20.065728Z
       
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       @YeetLibs jewkraine shills deserve to watch the debased country they stan turnes into rubble
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTK3gxaX0A4uvlFqK by balrog_booger@dumbopinions.xyz
       2022-10-11T22:44:34.635552Z
       
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       @0vtcast @YeetLibs Part of me is looking forward to it. The other part is terrified. I think I have enough supplies to survive the initial shit storm. I would love for the wagie system to collapse so I could just park myself down in some land near a creek and just farm. On the other hand we might just all freeze to death in nuclear winter. Not having electricity, sewers, and Internet will suck though
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTKFo02BVLiDzgJQ8 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:46:47.001317Z
       
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       @Curvin @YeetLibs I hope that doesn't happen. I want Ukraine to stop being a political pawn because the people who live there don't deserve it. Their government can go to hell, but I'm not cheering for the destabilization of a people because of ZOG's agenda.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTKMWUDhEftw50IE4 by Gerfand@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:47:59.887983Z
       
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       @YeetLibs I will not discuss this, either way, he is a fag
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTKQuDzNdJEiVVAgq by SerfnUSA@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:48:47.149189Z
       
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       @RowdyRamzan @YeetLibs LOOK AT THIS VIDEO OF RUSSIANS CARRYING CHICKENS ITS OVER FOR PUTIN
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTKeB24CVmibrFlrs by Curvin@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:51:11.278503Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @YeetLibs You're right, this war is between white men, we can only hope it to end soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTKxgB4cyM8htlXG4 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:54:42.730656Z
       
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       @Curvin @YeetLibs Our people are the casualties of this war. Just like in WW2. I am with you in wanting the Ukrainian stans to see how badly their government and media have lied to them, but I'm not holding my breath. Mass awakening doesn't happen. Legitimacy crisis are more like sandstone getting chipped away a bit at a time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTLIq1tC4ZpLLYj5s by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:54:37.963552Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs And here's where you're mistaken. These people chose every time, like any other nation does. Changes in countries comes both from upstream and downstream.UA managed to not improve for a long time. Plenty other countries with less resources or harder geographical positions, but better people, are way ahead of UA. Most importantly these nations manage to constantly shit talk their neighbors without getting into a war with them.UA's history is a rightful monument and deserved heritage to their people.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTLIqRldrHEdbfOQi by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-11T22:58:32.086208Z
       
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       @white_male @Curvin @YeetLibs Explain further if you can. My understanding is that their choices have seldom been their own. They were victims of soft coup d'etat and have been the constant target of CIA operations for at least 10+ years, or am I mistaken?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTLrlGys23Oj6Gqh6 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:01:58.921092Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Nice, UA is a woman now? Maybe even UA is a tranny and none of results of it's actions/inactions is it's own fault. Got it. :]You think it's the only country that's been infiltrated, lobbied, threatened and manipulated and not only by one, but presumably many interested parties?Yeah, most other nations manage to shake off their own faults, UA collapses under it's own.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTLrlgrJoko1MNW1w by YeetLibs@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:04:50.283829Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Curvin I don't think any western country is able to do that right now and most are in the process of lootings
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTMqVIGtYmGpfq3Ye by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-11T23:11:55.165834Z
       
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       You are discounting coercion and indoctrination and the amount of power the powers that be can exercise over a country like UA.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTMqVdtbA4hujxKGO by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:14:11.831814Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Not discounting, just saying other countries didn't totally fuck up under the pressure. And that's not to mention the possibility of turning hostile situations into at least net positive deals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTNUQWM3le1c4Skcq by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:23:02.445901Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Which other countries share the same border situation with Russia and NATO? Belarus, Finland, Georgia? Am I missing any? Finland has applied for NATO membership and the others appear at least in armistice or better with Russia. Ukraine is near Western Europe; they never stood a chance at sovereignty from the start. I'm an American with anti-war leanings, so my perspective is Western and probably missing several sides to this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTNe6feiTaswfQeQK by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:12:19.361348Z
       
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       @YeetLibs @BowsacNoodle @Curvin That's different, all of 1st world is paying for strategic mishandling, but it won't probably cost any of us liberty nor independence. Just a harsh year or two, before we kiss and make up.UA has been growing to it's current situation for over 30 years after dissolution of USSR. Her current president, an actor turned president, turned multi billionaire is another point in case against UA's people.Why didn't he steal just a little, but really helped his country? A nigger faggot amongst whites. Lol, what am i talking about, (((jew))).
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTNe74TEDRYBd2T6O by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:24:47.181131Z
       
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       @white_male @YeetLibs @Curvin Dude none of us are defending UA or its president. As much as culture is downstream from people, my country of America has shown how easily that can be hijacked by media manipulation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTRxsbn6p7WwLIzKq by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:28:36.243279Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Finland is a funny example, since new govt already told NATO to fuck off. They don't want any more animosity towards Russia. One might say Finland nearly ukrained itself. ;DUA, had plenty of opportunities to not provoke the war. They could've just fuck off the border and assure Russia about not encroaching Donbas and Lugansk, right? They could've done this in the eleventh hour too.Had they made all the mistakes themselves? Had they been corrupted or lobbied or proded towards the chain of events, do i care? Fuck no, it's their history that they themselves written.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTRxtCetkbwmgYQng by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-11T23:36:47.949218Z
       
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       UA goons were shooting UA citizens who tried to flee when Russia started it's operation.It's still considered treason to flee UA.You have to look at what the UA governance and power structure is.It's controlled by dual citizen oligarchs who are backed by the US.The Ukrainians minds are under attack by the most sophisticated psy-war department in the world. The Ukrainians have no say in what is happening in UA.You can only seize opportunities if you realize they exist.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTaoQFk43d7ygYbjs by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-11T23:43:37.069455Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs We're talking about UA in the sense of historical destiny.Why do i care about current outcomes?I know the timeline pretty well since the start of the year.Plenty of opportunities to avoid the war.UA fucked up peace talks too.How long do you feel an entity has to make mistakes until they are responsible for the consequences of their own actions?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTaoQn44AHje29Dg8 by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-11T23:53:29.310806Z
       
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       You are assuming Ukrainians have control over their own lives and the decisions of their government.Do you know about Kolomoyskyi?It's special interests and US/Israel that fucked it up for UA.UA's people are partially low information fools that believe what the telli tells them and the other part is people who go along to not be imprisoned or shot.The Arab spring was mostly a psy-war operation and look what that managed to do to Egypt.How much fault can you give someone for making decisions when he is unaware of crucial information?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTardxZYhvtMFavBY by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T00:00:29.817539Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Nice comparison. UA provoking Russia. Arab spring in Egypt. UA is practiacally niggers?Besides that, i have empathy for the people, but i do not relent on their responsibility. If they are that stupid, it they elect that stupid politicians, it's on them.I can fault them fully, it's a fucking country full of adults. The same as i blame addicts of all kinds. Adult retards also deserve everything they get in life. In my eyes, UA has all the qualifications and faculties to be held responsible for her actions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTareVFXUs52hLog4 by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T00:11:11.694671Z
       
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       Like the Arab-spring UA had it's own color revolution.There was the orange revolution in 2004 and Ukraine has been under a constant psy-op by the US since then.You must have realized that the systems that exist today on social media for example build a psych-profile of it's users that can predict their future actions (like purchases) with a scary degree of accuracy and they can influence their behavior.If you think this is all to sell some consumer product more efficient and that no-one would have thought of using it for political means you are crazy.They spend trillions on perfecting social engineering, and they are obviously very good at it.At the end of it I give fault to the people for falling for it, but I also see that most people probably aren't even smart or schizo enough to ever  figuring out they are being manipulated.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTasuqCHTyQ0Fke9o by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T00:13:55.599115Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Don't have time for mkultra bullshit.If that's your working MO then just resign your agency and opinions, it's all futile.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTatOykEGdVTRyte4 by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T00:24:15.194372Z
       
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       >MkUltra bullshit.So you are basically telling me that the funny guy on TV told you social engineering is just a conspiracy theory?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTbTjyzc8Wn2eQPKK by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T00:32:08.179918Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs You're defending UA for the whole conversation, because you think it lost it's agency. Then you bring up arab spring in the same way. I'm not discounting social engineering.I just don't have time for defeatists with singular reason to every consequence in the world. It's offending me to the point of disgust to think that even niggers wouldn't be able to outgrow such manipulation. Not to mention white slavs.Plus you keeping the same singular line of argumentation and not being responsive to multiple different lines of argumentation through out whole conversation makes me think you're just stupid like that. Are you really? Does this one thing override your conclusions?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTbTkVxdYtogtqjiK by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T00:44:31.490807Z
       
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       I bring up the arab spring because it is the same MO.They even had a third party shoot protesters in both cases.Acknowledging the gravity of a big problem doesn't make you a defeatist, it simply reality.All wars in our lifetime have been started by lies and manipulation, that is the one constant.No one is immune to being manipulated. There is a bunch of people who follow Q.There is people who follow AJ.There is people who follow Rogan.There is people who follow CNN.But if you don't like to talk about social engineering.Here is a nice article that shows how in bed the DNC is with the current leadership of UA.https://ryandawson.substack.com/p/why-would-a-jewish-president-workTLDR Biden and the most powerful oligarch of UA (Kolomoyskyi) are in a criminal business relationship together.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTbTkt0FtKZqMd8d6 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T00:50:54.287310Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs So? Being prone to provocation or corruption is a fault of character. You're still responsible. Not even social engineering overrides that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTbTlR2DMYLXuYJfs by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T01:59:46.882782Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs You're right, but it doesn't change my sympathy for the people. Regular people don't decide anything. I live in America, but I don't accept the responsibility for what my government does. I shouldn't have to either, because they don't represent my interests or care about my opinion. This applies to regular people in Ukraine or any other country. At the very core, the population may be "bad" or "good" or whatever, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not running their government. I fail to see how that absolves the country of its failings.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTcqh1EtossSqz4ZU by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T01:15:20.511202Z
       
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       I agree that is probably the biggest weakness of White people, they seem to always end up with a completely corrupt leadership.Your argument could be used as a pro-pedo argument.They got groomed and coerced it's their own fault for not knowing better and being low IQ children?It's technically true that the child could have ran away from the stranger, screaming stranger danger.The reason this is not acceptable as a defense for a pedo is that the difference in intellect and experience between an adult and a child is so vast that a normal child can easily be tricked by an adult.The difference in intellect and experience between a normal person and an organization like the Esalen Institute in matters of human behavioral manipulation is even vaster than between a pedo and a child.That is why I still stand on my point that you are not taking coercion and manipulation of people serious enough.Ukrainians are just regular humans and if they have never been made aware of the fact that Mass Media and Social Media is their enemy and that they should run away and scream stranger danger when being presented with "Media", then I expect them to fall for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTcqhSBHeR1oPaaZ6 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T01:30:02.702792Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs >pro-pedo argumentI told you earlier, i qualify UA as fully capable to make self determination as a nation, as an entity. Thus responsible for consequences of it's actions, regardless of pressures present. There's no comparison to adult grooming a child.>Esalen InstituteDude, i didn't want to say it earlier, but i smelled this. Fucking NLP scam artists. If you're at a level where NLP is a serious topic for you, you need to grow up.It makes foundational sense too, since you believe the possibility of intrusive overriding linguistic programming. Mkultra has to make perfect sense for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTcqhn61tAIrHNIAK by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T01:56:49.839899Z
       
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       yes it is in essence a pro pedo argument, the pedophile has the superior intellect and experience and the childs trust the pedo.This is exactly the same situation most people have with the "Media" The groups coming up with the narratives have a vastly superior combined intellect and experience than a normal person and a normal person trusts "Media".Esalen is not a one issue organization, NLP is just one of the ideas being pushed by social engineers. They have enough funding to try anything. Simple skinner boxes and framing the narrative is still the bread and butter of social engineering.Rogan is part of the Esalen Institute, and that manlet definitely has reach. The people he get's on his podcast (via Matt Staggs) and the subjects he talks about form part of his listeners world views.Good manipulation is not lying or some spooky subconscious hypnosis, it's about manipulating the amount of each individual type of narrative you get fed.We won't get anywhere since we are still at the same point.You keep dismissing the severity of social engineering.I keep insisting on it's vast influence.And you keep bringing up MKultra which had as it's biggest part getting politicians and stars drugged and blackmailing them, the whole spooky stories around it is just Hollywood BS.Let's just agree to disagree.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTcqiBYYwjO58opI8 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:06:44.021279Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Esalen is a ballwash water left over from the flower children movement. Druggies had bright ideas about how world works, LMFAO.It's not in essence a pro pedo argument. Nation v nation is a fair game competition. Pedo v child is a predatory situation, after the point of YEET there's no return.And why Big Nation v small nation is different and still fair game? Because both are resourceful entities capable of exploiting their own strengths and weaknesses, conducting trade and diplomacy, where out maneuvering and fortifying against stronger influences is a day to day business.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTcqifgkuplaautG4 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:15:08.061284Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Please stop framing the argument as it relates to p*dos. I get the point, but the topic is grotesque and unnecessary. >And why Big Nation v small nation is different and still fair game? Because both are resourceful entities capable of exploiting their own strengths and weaknesses, conducting trade and diplomacy, where out maneuvering and fortifying against stronger influences is a day to day business.I don't believe nations have enough sovereignty to properly exploit their own resources in a way that benefits them. Every time they try, they get "liberated". Libya and Iraq are two recent examples that will forever bother me, and somehow people don't care or forget. Muammar Gaddafi was guilty of caring about his people and trying to keep his country from debt slavery.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTdG2RSO2Jg96Kh2u by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:18:35.987921Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs What do you mean they are not controlling their own government? Electing that faggot actor was the first time a "russian puppet" was not the president of UA. If they were at least strong enough to change one puppet to another puppet, that was a manifestation of their running their government, exactly as democratic rule permits.Doesn't matter what you accept. You are in fact a US citizen, you participate in the group decision of various democratic elections and you share that responsibility as much as ukrainians share theirs, even not voting changes the balance. You have no responsibility to rise up to the challenge and become a political alternative if those present aren't satisfactory. However YOU as people are responsible for the politicians that arise from your ranks, especially those that get elected and their actions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTdG3b45nb1jBpsf2 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:19:43.199968Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Nah.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTdWn18zHclEN0qmW by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:21:41.039083Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I've done my work for today and it's just this conversation that lingers and keeps me upright. Maybe we'll pick it up again tomorrow.Cheers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOTeTWI2p5YsR9vG7c by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2022-10-12T02:33:21.778272Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Ok, calm down, Osama.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOUYMRHUdtNOJArgwq by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T02:39:44.356943Z
       
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       Esalen is an offshoot from Tavistock. And yes it presents itself as a new age think tank/meet up. If the hippy veneer is enough to throw you off, then you just got tricked by expert social engineers.I am not talking about nation vs nation that is a nearly meaningless statement. I am talking about powerful interest wielding powerful institutions against the population of UA.A government is not the people.A government should in the best case be for the people.The collective people of Ukraine did not want to shell Donbas, it was done by a group of anti-Russia fanatics cultivated and funded by Kolomoyskyi.Kolomoyskyi and his Israeli partners hate Putin because he helped Syria and Iran and he kicked out a bunch of (((Russian))) oligarchs.They are fully prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian to hurt Putin.UA is governed by a hand full of oligarchs with support from the US and Israel. There was a coup by these same oligarchs (Maidan coup). There is no dissenting media in UA there were governors appointed not elected.This is a country that is completely taken hostage by foreign interests.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOUYMSG70VrjLBE6Qy by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T11:48:58.794215Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs >Esalen is an offshoot from TavistockYeah, what i said, ballwash water left over from the flower children movement. Yes, i know NLP is just one of the types of bullshit they peddle. How about extra sensory perception? LOLOLOL LMFAOThat's how these retards' method works. They allude to a discovery/method they have, but never prove anything. You throwing their names around doesn't give any credibility, it just further proves you're naive. Or stupid. Like 85 range without the full benefit of education system stupid.>A government is not the people.Of course govt is the people. You have delsuions about your place in the world. You don't get to choose your starting pawn, you get what you get. If you're born today in UA, sucks to be you, you're sharing your stupid relatives(those as close as family and those as distant as you fellow citizens) consequences.>taken hostage by foreign interestsEvery country is "taken hostage by whatever" you want to point to as it's biggest current fault. US politics and media is run by kikes, are you going to excuse the "best and brightest" people from responsibility too? Or it's just when shit hits the fan the US becomes too corrupt to be held responsible and let's point the fingers at something else.Oh by the way, how about we absolve Russia from any moral wrongdoing as well? I'm pretty sure they have hoards of retards in there to point a finger at some overriding corruption that writes modern history as we speak and they will explain how it's none of the citizens fault.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOUYMWgUYNLN49bE6i by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T12:59:32.487614Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I like the term "ballwash water". That's a good one. I'd guess the point of bringing up these groups is that they exist(ed) and the things they're known for are probably not the true purpose. MKULTRA is talked about as spooky government experiments (Stranger Things etc.) and the occasional stories of the people involved doing quirky things (Frank Olson getting suicided after raising hell over being drugged by LSD), but the reality is it was a huge psychological operations project designed to learn about manipulation and control at the individual and population level.>US politics and media is run by kikes, are you going to excuse the "best and brightest" people from responsibility too? Or it's just when shit hits the fan the US becomes too corrupt to be held responsible and let's point the fingers at something else.The best and brightest and groomed to support the system, and almost all of them know to shut their mouths. Occasionally they break away and are publicly made examples of to remind the rest who's in charge. Do I blame them? Yeah, I kind of do. You can only pass the buck for so long, ya know?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOUyols4HSzd5E8vSK by TheTallMan@poa.st
       2022-10-12T17:54:51.980166Z
       
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       @white_male @YeetLibs @BowsacNoodle @Curvin imagine calling yourself lower case w white_malecalling others jewand ZOG-guarding on post
       
 (DIR) Post #AOUyrLNRF1YrmZ2ivY by Mackiavelli13@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T17:56:28.683114Z
       
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       You know nukes aren't that bad after all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVIV0frX16gHnHwTg by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T13:26:41.721853Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Fair, fair. I repeat myself here, i don't discount subtlety of manipulation, even if it's sourced in metaphysical bullshit. If it works it works, right? Even if we miss the underlying principle, we can have and use something that works.My contention here is that @Radu presents this as an over encompassing and overriding cause. As you see in his posts, it's so overriding in his mind, that he absolves parties of responsibilities.I don't know if that would came out in this thread, but let me paint you the picture of people who are into NLP and all this new age bull. It's a pay2win cult that culminates in solipsistic, metaphysical worldview that eventually works like a filter to weed out people "too smart for this". Radu is a perfect example for who's left around these ideas.I definitely agree with limits to passing the buck, between small and large groups it's always possible to revise and change, it all depends on the people involved. I helped few groups in different walks of life to move from corruption prone governance to fully auditable governance. There was not even a need to hold the "old guard" to the fire once, everybody typically was just happy how the new order works. I'm not somebody exceptional, i just got fed up and put in the work. If i can pull off some grass roots gig to completion and i see people around me doing the same and i see my country and other being able to self moderate. I can't really absolve responsibility from something as penultimate as a sovereign country of tens of millions. Definitely not to "mkultra bullshit".
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVIV1FJPDSm3jsFjU by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T21:36:32.482144Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs >i don't discount subtlety of manipulation, even if it's sourced in metaphysical bullshit. If it works it works, right? I want to stress this point deliberately here: the metaphysical bullshit wrapper around MKULTRA is part of the psychological operation. It is not and was not "let's pour hundreds of millions of dollars into remote viewing and telekinesis research!" That particular belief, that it was a program for paranormal study, is disinformation conspiracy. >If i can pull off some grass roots gig to completion and i see people around me doing the same and i see my country and other being able to self moderate. I can't really absolve responsibility from something as penultimate as a sovereign country of tens of millions.If governments were more transparent and less bureaucratic, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. When you get to a government the size of the USA or UA, there's layers of bureaucracy and filters that exist to gatekeep innovators and incremental reformers. The system spends quite a lot of resources on what it sees as "maintenance", or basically things that exist to keep the status quo in check. I could give you hypothetical examples, and I'm sure others here can give you real ones, but things are so far gone and rot is so entrenched it's hardly worth saving. The cancer of corruption metastisized long ago.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVKwKaxm1o9nT9VOC by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T21:45:25.923833Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I don't agree, it was still a backwards time, when disciplines involved were not anywhere near as explored as they are today. For the time and unknowns, it was a valid hypothesis for a research target.But ok, what's the metastupid cover for then? What underneath?To the other point, i agree how it works by design, i just disagree to the limits it can be influenced.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVKwL08GRwP3WvbcW by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:03:53.419953Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I'm sure they did research on remote viewing and ESP stuff. Why not, as you said. What's underneath is a lot of other stuff. I'm going to link a site that looks totally discrediting, but I don't care because it's simply an index. They have links to the FOIA document sources for all of these. There's quite a lot about behavioral manipulation.illuminatirex.com/list-of-mkultra-subprojects/
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC1E9eOjyJeWo6a by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T17:24:41.690613Z
       
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       I am not impressed that you are able to read a wikipedia page.You are the perfect example of a low information nigger to proof my point about people getting easily duped by media.Your whole Idea regarding the Hippy movement and New Age movement is just based on funny skids you saw on TV.The ease by which that veneer fooled you explains why all you typed has the intellectual depth of a puddle.A good chunk of what you based your argument on is information you got from entertainment like " The Men Who Stare at Goats" and southpark.Your statement: government == the citizens of a nationIs wrong, and by not grasping that you have shown yourself to be a nitwit.>Every country is "taken hostage by whatever"Your "it's bad everywhere" statement is irrelevant.You don't understand that the people of the US face the same problem to a lesser degree. But you are a binary thinker so it's either blame or no blame.>Oh by the way, how about we absolve Russia from any moral wrongdoingYou are a low information nigger you should not try to figure out who is to blame.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC1ek3Y0Xe6y2Xw by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T17:49:00.353558Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs >I am not impressed that you are able to read a wikipedia page.I've been exposed to this subculture for 8 months, while on a certain job. I've had first hand experience, debating, being convinced about thing and sometimes it even felt like attempts to recruit.>Your statement: government == the citizens of a nationFalse, i've said multiple times that nations are the citizen of a nation and government, being their representatives, they chose from themselves and thus ultimately their responsibility.>Your "it's bad everywhere" statement is irrelevant.It's absolutely relevant, because that's the state of life. I'm living in current circumstances and how they manifest, not dream walking about how it should be in a "(chose your flavor) perfect society".Because of how some nations manage themselves, in harsh reality of life, better than others definitely is a benchmark of these nations peoples.>You are a low information nigger you should not try to figure out who is to blame.Eh, i can be aware of who is to blame and still put the ultimate responsibility on those who directly and indirectly wield agency over themselves. I can be aware of powerful individuals and groups of individuals and still put the ultimate responsibility on each countries citizens and representatives.You on the other hand are an idiot, who revokes agency from entities and ultimately shifts the responsibility of self governance onto outside forces. Which should be laughable to any adult, especially those who bootstrapped and achieved mobility and some success. You have the will of a nigger, who can't muster himself against the world and constantly blames everybody else for everything, while actively dindu nuffin.UA is a shitter of a country first because of it's people, second because of it's representatives and only third because of it's circumstances. Directly acting a nigger towards it's most powerful neighbor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC2Cm11EJLetDai by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T18:10:21.115148Z
       
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       You don't have agency over your own mind, stop being a low information nigger, before trying to figure out the workings of a country.You are 100% to blame for your lack of knowledge, you got plenty of pointers in this thread, but you revert to repeating entertainment memes.You could have kindly asked for information instead of trying to seem informed by repeating wikipedia.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC2hcALtqtJJqfA by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T18:13:03.528234Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs Okay, give me the knowledge to change my life. Let's see it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC37qaosqCfanYG by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T18:15:45.055833Z
       
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       read this one first then come back to me"The CIA as Organized Crime"
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC3cKlTGnjDr94S by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T18:25:07.893125Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs CIA is criminal and does awful stuff in the shadows. Agreed.Now how does this nullify agency of a whole country? Has no country dealt with organized crime? Originating from their own government, or their homegrown criminals, or corrupt police, or international intelligence?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMC4DYX52nafGs5Y by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:17:55.545173Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs >Has no country dealt with organized crime? Originating from their own government, or their homegrown criminals, or corrupt police, or international intelligence?Italy, Germany, Spain, and a few others all did this at one point after the first world war. The rest of the world decided they needed to gang up on them for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVMn2Y1hhHj7sTaCm by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:23:01.348192Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs ESP, remote viewing, really? It's less dumb stuff as a cover for extraordinarily dumb stuff? Yeah, that's where we diverge. I don't but into stupidity.>Why not, as you said.I threw you guys a bone, i was hoping to hear a breakthrough in the topic. There's a difference doing something based on stupid fundamental that works and doing something based on stupid fundamentals that doesn't work. You insist that some form of mind control exist and presumably is applied. The other guy exaggerates it to the point of absolving agency. Prime schizo posting, congrats, i got got.Behavioral manipulation, so skinner box training/research, it's the only plausible thing that links to measurable reality. But guess what, that's just run of the mill psychological research.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVNGk9Eg7wGkP2nIW by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:29:59.255113Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs >I've been exposed to this subculture for 8 months, while on a certain job. I've had first hand experience, debating, being convinced about thing and sometimes it even felt like attempts to recruit.Attempts to recruit??? For what, and by whom? Most people I run into in these circles are obsessed with the truth, even at cost to their own comfort (there's no coming back to normieville after some "redpills"), or they're fed up after being financially or personally harmed because of their race.>Eh, i can be aware of who is to blame and still put the ultimate responsibility on those who directly and indirectly wield agency over themselves. I can be aware of powerful individuals and groups of individuals and still put the ultimate responsibility on each countries citizens and representatives.I suggest you have a bit more understanding and grace towards these people. As you said above, you're 8 months into exposure on these concepts. Were you aware jewish power before that, and if so how has your position changed?>UA is a shitter of a country first because of it's people, second because of it's representatives and only third because of it's circumstances. Representatives»circumstances»people. In that order.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVNekvDS8Si66w7fc by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:34:19.645838Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs You only have to read until "subproject 5" to see them bring up psychological manipulation. It's referenced many many many more times. The purpose of the drugs they use was for psychological manipulation. They tested what personality types and traits would be most vulnerable, which means they developed new or had existing profiles of personality types and effective ways to manipulate them. This isn't hard to piece together.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVOHTtofyyUb3kPKa by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:41:19.723692Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs You don't throw anyone a bone, jackass. I agreed with your premise in that if something hadn't been researched in modern controlled study and they have a ton of money to use they could probably find a way to incorporate it. Are you even familiar with how research gets done in the USA? Most of the time it's government grants for things that are only barely related under false premises. "Oh yeah this could totally be used to make an energy source and give us energy independence probably maybe" is how you get grant checks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVOXsD63Y5Qd4a9RI by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:42:03.772470Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs >I suggest you have a bit more understanding and grace towards these people.Both two different groups i've met at that time were dumb as piles of rocks nigger faggots. And funny enough, they also used that retarded messaging, "you better don't get cocky with us, you don't know what we're capable of" or some sort of expectation of unwarranted respect. Thinly veiled threats don't work if they come from limp wristed faggots.>Were you aware jewish power before that, and if so how has your position changed?LMFAO, i'm acting curious to learn about you. You think i just stumbled on here and discovered race realism or something for the first time? :D Holy fuck you have heads up your own assess.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVOXsmXvkRWP1ASh6 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:44:17.393078Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs You ignored my first question. Curious. So this "work assignment" you're on, is it journalism, or are you a glownigger?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPCDGRCJoFVgNdNA by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:46:23.997549Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs It was just a regular job offsite, i started talking to guys there to possibly make some friend and have a drink with. Random chance meeting.You think anybody actually fucking cares enough about schizoid 85'ers to infiltrate them? :D
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPCDqb1sjVJpIVjU by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:51:34.767697Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Yes. And nothing said to you has been "schizoid" or threatening. I was being polite when I suggested you be less of a dick towards Ukrainians, because that's how I choose to poast. If you're not down with meta political discussion, then I've got little interest in talking to you. Surface level politics is very fake and very gay.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPTorMfgbJ2931to by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T22:54:29.559766Z
       
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       You smell like journo to me.You are arrogant while at the same time really proud about your opinions and you have no knowledge beyond the head lines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPoK3iNogZaVbL6m by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:54:36.215658Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I wasn't being a dick to ukrainians. I eventually became a dick towards those NLP/metaphysics bullshit cliques.I was talking about other people i've met in my life who believe the mkultra crap as you do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPoKZcTCCrBSWoq0 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:58:27.749217Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs It's like the ultimate just world fallacy to think that people's garbage governments are a representation of what they actually want or deserve.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPreiG35WAVu9cu0 by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T22:59:04.327271Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I dunno fam. Bowsac's one of the most polite and congenial dudes I've ever met. If you managed to irk him you're likely off the charts level of shitty.It may not just be the 109 different people you've met who think you're a prick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVPy6UxeiYSQV0ei8 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:00:14.221483Z
       
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       @Nou @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Kicked out of 109 bars for no reason at all!
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQOAwpjd35kuTjVo by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:00:40.855697Z
       
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       @Nou @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs He just misunderstood to who i was being a dick to.I was being a dick towards : mkultra schizos.I was not being a dick towards : ukrainians.He took it in reverse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQOBNQ8mJf5MuxxA by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:04:56.856078Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs No, sorry if I was unclear.I'm saying it's possible that you give off the impression of being a dick to those you didn't intend to as well as those you did. Because you could just be a dick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQPMuwiZVbAUAGqO by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:04:45.909349Z
       
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       I am an asshole but "wHITE_MALE" didn't even know what Iran/Contra was and behaves like an arrogant prick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQoq5rNZS8taPmZk by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:07:34.783634Z
       
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       He just quickly looked up the stuff I told him about on google and made a silly remark instead of admitting he doesn't know about it.He is a dick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQoqffES5ogdANNo by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:09:46.078056Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @white_male I wasn't really following the conversation until the last few posts, so I didn't want to say anything definitive. But yeah, certainly believable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQrAUIWcYyj4xKeu by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:10:11.300583Z
       
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       @white_male @Nou @Curvin @YeetLibs >I was not being a dick towards ukrainians.I mean you say yourself you have empathy towards them, but you also said they're "practically niggers". Yes I'm deliberately taking that statement out of context, but you did the same by stepping over the clear piece of evidence provided by @Radu so I am now assuming thats what you actually think.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQyZH2ljgtctHjE0 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:09:01.015574Z
       
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       @Nou @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Nice one. ;]That thread lasts second day already, our disagreement centers around : "how much agency and responsibility do parties in global happenings actually have".Mkultra schizos believe the world is puppeteered with mind control, especially the ukrainians are not to be blamed for provoking their largest neighbor into a war.My position is that every country directly and indirectly makes it's own destiny and is absolutely responsible for the consequences of their actions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQyepc6dJYrYUuIq by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:11:30.016851Z
       
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       @white_male @Nou @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Your position would make sense for a person who didn't understand jewish power.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVRKombmrJk67euNU by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:12:40.818600Z
       
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       >Mkultra schizos believeYou never understood the conversation to begin with.You keep thinking about the TV-shows you watched about the CIA and X-files.You have no knowledge about the subject.>My position isYour position is your believe backed by no information.It's worthless.And if you are unwilling to learn anything it will stay worthless.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVRXZzO6MXPyoimcC by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:17:51.243963Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Right, I get that. But it's possible to disagree, even on heated topics, without being a prick.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVRh3WfeawkC1o9UO by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:15:31.421542Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Nou @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Nah, that's not me. @Radu compared the gay op in arab spring to current ops in ukraine. He put them on the table side by side as examples of the same manipulation tactics, so i asked him if he thought so little of white slavs as north african niggers.Later i even written exactly that it offends me to equate these two groups of people, because they are definitely not victims to the same condition he stipulates through the whole conversation.What i eventually implied is that ukrainians were not good enough to properly manage relations in their difficulat situation and that it's a benchmark of their people, but definitely didn't call them niggers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVRh419pFKhia4V0a by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:19:33.732732Z
       
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       @white_male @Nou @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs If you had phrased your argument like that to begin with, you wouldn't have been met with such hostility. I'm assuming you're ESL based on some of your posts, so I give a pass on that.Ultimately, I disagree with your premise because even the best nations of quality stock are being converged through decades of manipulation, socialization, and financial exploitation. Ukraine started off in a shit situation because of its location, but I don't doubt most of the men there never wanted this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVS0Q7hrTafmOMfom by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:17:55.756163Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @Nou @YeetLibs There's no knowledge to be had. Mkultra is bunk. It doesn't exist, because nothing was discovered, because the hypothesis came from drug addled hippies.The knowledge of it lingers as NLP bullshit and it's laughable if you ever seen it in practice.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVS0SC2AMEyCOP9qC by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:23:03.742701Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @Nou @YeetLibs Yet hostage negotiation tactics are trainable and work, and they're transferrable to sales and interpersonal world. Your rejection of the concept of psychological manipulation is out of place for a person who recognizes race realism in a world that is openly hostile to the concept. This is why you come across as a fed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSMBhUAMlLQ0TnNI by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:27:00.002117Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs 
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSeyG8Me6fEXdtz6 by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:25:01.874639Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Nou @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I did, from the begining. I was open to meeting in the middle.Unfortunately was met with that mkultra shit. It was ukraine mkultra'd and that's it. @Radu just got his head up his own ass on questioning.>You don't have knowledge.>You only have memeTV knowledge>Oh, you don't know about this obscure historical situation.>Ultimately, I disagree with your premiseFine, i wish i had this talk with you then. But i had with @Radu, see above.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSeym2S1cwpUZNiK by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:30:22.530856Z
       
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       @white_male @Nou @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I don't disagree with him even, I just don't get into the weeds because the concepts are logical without naming these particular bogeymen. The CIA pushed a color revolution in Ukraine in like 2004. It was similar tactics to the Arab spring revolutions. This isn't a controversial opinion outside of mainstream politics, and even many of them will begrudgingly admit it. How do you expect a country that's riddled with outside influence and corruption to suddenly wake up and decide "no more" when women are allowed to vote and the family structure is screwed? It's not going to happen.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSfeDQN6tXMIhKam by graf@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:30:26.584743Z
       
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       @Nou @BowsacNoodle @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSibHJkTkD7MvWZE by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:27:02.119339Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @Nou @YeetLibs I never reject psychological manipulation. @Radu constantly implied black magic mkultra bullshit. I'm sure i spelled out manipulation as plausible, but again was met with "mkultra is the answer, go read that book newfag pleb".
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSibiy5frWV7rbfM by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:31:02.924127Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Ok, so this may somewhat be a result of two groups talking past each other.Let me ask. Do you think hypnosis is real?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSuhgljxjwTUbRMe by icameheretosaythenword@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:28:06.683490Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Yo mkultra did happen. You can freedom of Information act request it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSuiHzVZVwKw1ANk by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:28:58.247135Z
       
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       @icameheretosaythenword @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs The point is, it's useless and nothing close to what the schizo in this thread implies it is.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVSuikLo8CPktHoaO by icameheretosaythenword@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:32:04.060295Z
       
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       @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Ah ok. I think you lost everyone in this thread by insulting them. Alot of people won't let that go and shift the goal post to you being an asshole. If I want to do what it looks like you did, I just say nigger and watch them lose it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVT0zPujxzNC9iUEq by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:34:22.384485Z
       
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       @white_male @icameheretosaythenword @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs I actually linked you an index of the studies and the source material, and you didn't bother to look, or you would have noticed that (as I said previously) the 5th study was about targeted manipulation of specific types of individuals (personalities).
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVT2qPXCD13qHQJ72 by CrushBead@shitposter.club
       2022-10-12T23:34:08.688052Z
       
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       @graf @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @Nou @YeetLibs @white_male Autists are absolutely not immune to propaganda. They may be less susceptible to certain type, but they are also very susceptible to others. If they were immune the number of troons would be drastically smaller.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVT3VKJ4YCCjwID9k by graf@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:34:48.307387Z
       
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       @CrushBead @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @Nou @YeetLibs @white_male people are groomed into transgenderism by inclusion, not propaganda
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVTLPPfnU1zc1LAcy by Nou@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:38:03.865512Z
       
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       @graf @CrushBead @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @Radu @YeetLibs @white_male Not sure it's an either/or. All the best propaganda has a sort of meta aspect to it. That's why ad agencies will pour millions into not just what to say, but which medium to say it in.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVTTDL8ZJzGU6wNkm by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:39:14.620412Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @icameheretosaythenword @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Dude, today that's just run of the mill psychology. I appreciate research, but it falls extremely short of what was claimed as mkultra by resident schizoid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVTTpTGnX4UkL2Pho by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:37:31.115030Z
       
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       @graf @CrushBead @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @Nou @Radu @YeetLibs Also affirmative action onto a pedestal in most places of society, that's definitely attractive to confused teens.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVTcASmdKsIAXmpE0 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:41:05.545896Z
       
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       @white_male @icameheretosaythenword @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs Today it is, but what about in the 50s? And I fail to see how targeted propaganda is outside of what he claimed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVTkQckQr4CbiO0q8 by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:41:42.875062Z
       
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       You were the only one claiming MKUltra is spooky mind-magic.Don't start lying now.You have already been an arrogant prick no need to become a slimy lying snake.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUGJGRKavB329c2q by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:48:20.472989Z
       
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       @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword @white_male He was indeed the only one claiming that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUStUwRLz2tswCwK by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:46:40.330679Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @icameheretosaythenword @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs The claim i'm disagreeing with is "the propaganda and manipulation is so strong that we can absolve UA from it's agency and it's actions that led to today consequences". I've repeated it over 5 different messages.With you, we already agreed and we even established more less "territory" of disagreement, we'd have a lovely conversation.With resident schizo it was going nowhere over and over, so we derailed. I just don't know enough about mkultra, you don't know about Tavistock, you don't know about blablabla. He might be smarter than this, but he fucking botched it. Like a schizoid. :D
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUStz4dK5QPL2GuG by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:50:37.171012Z
       
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       @white_male @icameheretosaythenword @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs You were the one who jumped in with accusations of "MKULTRA schizoid nonsense" when he brought up circumstantial evidence of known power broker involvement. Own your mistake and eat some crow buddy. 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUmt5dfQWvQUdVei by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:52:08.841201Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword To the point of absolving an entity of consequences of decades old situation they did everything to inflame?You know, you can get blind sighted and manipulated into something once, twice, couple times. When you're on collision course with due date in twenty years, manipulation isn't enough to justify.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUmtnb1zgxcpCcAi by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:54:13.835358Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword Sometimes people screw up and it's better the devil they know. I stand by my statements of "to hell with the Ukrainian government", "the people there didn't want this war", "there's no way they could've done a regime change when women hold voting rights".
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUuGEe0oH7ElMedk by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:51:29.240022Z
       
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       Wrong you made the claim the the people of UA are at complete fault.It was pointed out to you that they have been under constant psy-op attack since 2004.And are ruled by UA/Israel oligarchs with US backing.And that it is not as simple as the people of UA are the masters of their own government.I even pointed out to you that at the very beginning of the UA war UA deserters were shot and it's still treason to leave if you could fight.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUuGi4FPoKi189VA by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:54:51.464602Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword Desertion laws are in place since like forever. You think you made a discovery here?Yes, and i continue to claim they are at fault for leading decades old animosity towards larger than them and largest in region neighbor into a war provocation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVUuHJI11aKZSXsWG by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:55:33.916654Z
       
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       @white_male @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword Oh no we're talking in circles again. Funny how it really do be like that sometimes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnPcSPEv38JEu6F6 by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:55:50.757332Z
       
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       No my uninformed friend, civilians that try to leave a country don't get gunned down by masked goons in every country.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnQdIfahh9DHpiJU by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-12T23:56:43.734786Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword Must be revealing the stock of people involved.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnQdqhYAuuupktMG by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-12T23:58:28.597790Z
       
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       That idea that you are a bad faith actor and not just a nitwit seems more and more plausible.Are you a journo?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnQeHHxKBUFIC7nc by white_male@poa.st
       2022-10-13T00:00:47.368867Z
       
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       @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword Yep, from nigger faggot weekly. Only the niggerest intellectuals and only the faggotest socialites.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnRGO0Go8OR7d1Xc by icameheretosaythenword@poa.st
       2022-10-13T00:18:51.396982Z
       
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       @Radu @white_male @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs To be fair journos can't say nigger, neither can glow in the darks
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVnRGwOCxdk9liU8e by Radu@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-13T00:22:58.001043Z
       
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       I though "Israel has nuclear weapons" was the magic phrase?🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVomoknmqEj3s8NF2 by Sui@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-13T03:37:18.114392Z
       
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       Glowies can say anything, they are above the law.Just like the police can lie to you, and will often say whatever it takes to befriend you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWlzVyumuMTts3fBA by icameheretosaythenword@poa.st
       2022-10-13T11:04:49.752180Z
       
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       @Sui @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @white_male Everything except racial slurs. Its the federal government.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWlzWLxPEnF3Kq45w by Sui@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-13T12:56:56.325396Z
       
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       Nah, they can literally get away with anything. Raping chicks under false pretenses, including having kids with them, dealing/doing drugs, saying anything they want/think will help them fit in. They can instigate any crime, they can participate in pretty much anything and get away with zero consequences (their handlers decide when too much is too much). I can guarantee you there are glowniggers spamming nigger all across the fedi, especially in wignat cesspits like poast. Dropping a Nigger or Kike is not a line for them lmao, even if personally it would be. This sounds like the old stoner "You have to tell me if you're a cop dude, or it doesn't count brah" to me lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWm2tMCKoAbGbYhzE by icameheretosaythenword@poa.st
       2022-10-13T14:41:22.159609Z
       
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       @Sui @Radu @BowsacNoodle @Curvin @YeetLibs @white_male I do kind of sound like the "you have to tell me your a cop" guy lol. I think I'm too far into the mindset that everything is a complete circus so I wouldn't be surprised that glowniggers can take drugs and rape in order to further investigation, but saying nigger would be going too far. I mean I'm not that crazy right? Everything really is that insane that I could be correct.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWmHDvgdyBx7ozaaW by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-13T14:44:54.865960Z
       
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       @icameheretosaythenword @Sui @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @white_male No, that's not crazy at all. There's a reason that a lot of the testimony from assets and informants is sealed and redacted heavily upon release. I can only give you "trust me bro" for my source, but I have acquaintances I trust who have seen absolutely abhorrent behavior from informants be totally ignored. When it comes to glowies, the end always justifies the means.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWmPPpuG5PeN0C96e by Sui@chudbuds.lol
       2022-10-13T14:45:42.605217Z
       
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       It wouldn't surprise me if hate crimes were put ahead of rape/incitement to assassination tbh, we're depressingly deep enough in clown world for that. But I don't want newfags getting caught out by glowies thinking a "SAY NIGGER OR I'LL REEEE" test would be enough to weed 'em out lol, the glowies are among us and not all of 'em are sus
       
 (DIR) Post #AOWmWu4UF8mCAaaLFg by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2022-10-13T14:47:44.927868Z
       
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       @Sui @Radu @Curvin @YeetLibs @icameheretosaythenword @white_male Yeah it's really foolish. There are effective tests for weeding out bad actors, but none of them are perfect. Speaking of, did we ever see the results of the FOIA request on "monster girls"? 😂