Post AOSYa9kMF8rlfEzGVc by Boomerman@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #AOQuQXfEH2npccUOJM by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-10T18:47:55.675093Z
       
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       In your ideal democracy, _?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQuUrq9CYmFM5etXM by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-10-10T18:48:44.310811Z
       
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       @dave Universal Castration for all who serve in public office.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQuWco83yvdJOYK1Y by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-10T18:49:02.074835Z
       
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       For women do we yeet the teets?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQucR9WJDwetzKULY by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-10-10T18:50:05.996725Z
       
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       @dave No, we will be ruled by Eunuchs and the checks and balances of democracy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQuqyFi2dFpc69eaG by penguin@eveningzoo.club
       2022-10-10T18:52:44.764664Z
       
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       benevolent dictator (me) ftw!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQwcUdZYKqFcNXaT2 by neglesaks@mstdn.io
       2022-10-10T19:12:31Z
       
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       @polarisera @dave All people in office must wear a noose around their neck.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQxUx7PsMfraZT5gu by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-10-10T19:22:21.825054Z
       
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       @dave I think democracy won’t work properly without reforming education so that voters can be properly informed. A civics quiz won’t cut it.But that answer was closest to my opinion so I picked it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOQzX5DUwE2vBySMrI by ademan@shitposter.club
       2022-10-10T19:00:34.257558Z
       
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       Other
       
 (DIR) Post #AOR5VEiVFHk1nmSfo0 by SSumma@social.anthro.cc
       2022-10-10T20:51:22.669270Z
       
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       Democracy is at best the rule of the minority by the majority. Sound good? But wait, the majority is only 40% percent of the population, and the remaining 60% —split between conflicting interests— can eat shit. And this is in the best case scenario of direct democracy, which in reality would immediately descend into violence as the simple majority tries to force it's ways upon everyone else.In it's practical and present "representative" form however, democracy simply perfects the state, serving to manufacture consent for the rule of an oligarchy so as to launder and secure it's power.Perhaps democracy can work on the local scale, or in homogenous nations, but there are increasingly few of those. Best case realistic scenario, large now heterogenous countries can split apart peaceably according to their divisions, or at least the power of central government can be redistributed regionally.
       
 (DIR) Post #AORq62Ww768kc0XRvE by Herodor@poa.st
       2022-10-11T05:34:09.353506Z
       
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       @SSumma @dave We've had direct democracy for more than 150 years and had almost no violence even during the times the rest of Europe had a riot or violent uprising every week what the fuck are you on about
       
 (DIR) Post #AORqD1WuEQOfXIr2US by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2022-10-11T05:35:23.160364Z
       
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       @dave We assign numbers to choices and roll dice. 😏
       
 (DIR) Post #AORqiZ7hNkSEhY6WlE by Sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-11T05:41:06Z
       
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       @dave inalienable rights + direct democracy with minimum turnout requirements for implementation, but mandatory voting on constitutional changes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AORrN7W4vbjMxAqUnA by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-11T05:48:26Z
       
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       @dave I think voting should occur when an opposition party has enough money and support to self-fund an election. If they get 50% of the population to vote, then the entire established government is dissolved, and the new party creates its own government in its place. Basically, a form of bloodless revolution. Except revolutions usually have a tightly organized minority, and this would require a broad disorganized majority.
       
 (DIR) Post #AORrWi6oFQ3Z36bDVo by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-11T05:50:09.251506Z
       
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       Interesting concept
       
 (DIR) Post #AORrlJWdvjSL9Ie7vM by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-11T05:52:48Z
       
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       @dave I mean this is basically feudalism. If there is too much dissent in the kingdom, someone goes up to that throne room and throws him out the window.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSX0I1DuWrEwMD3Lc by epistemic_violence@poa.st
       2022-10-11T12:07:10.978027Z
       
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       @dave bicameral with one chamber electer through sortition
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSX0JySdlpv0MvsJs by epistemic_violence@poa.st
       2022-10-11T12:07:27.944800Z
       
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       @dave *elected
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSX7YaYhcVMMGCcts by Chaos_Ecksdee@poa.st
       2022-10-11T11:58:55.350997Z
       
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       @dave Voting has strict requirements. They are chosen not by some easily abused metric but rather based on whether the person will have an investment in the future of the country>22 years old or older>be a man (standard here is having XY chroomosomes)>have a wife (wife must have XX chromosomes and a functional reproductive system, dead eggs = no vote for hubby)>have at least 2 children that are proven by DNA test to be of you and your wife, no cucks or surrogates allowed>have 95% or higher European genetic admixture as proven by DNA test, Jewish dna does not count as European>a stable job that can reliably provide for wife and childrenAnd unless someone fulfills ALL of the above, they don't get to vote.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSX7ZPFf93QtTv6um by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-11T13:36:12.336186Z
       
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       implying only white people could be invested in the future of the country
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSXWE8Rsv7QA8omVE by RowdyRamzan@poa.st
       2022-10-11T13:40:42.372772Z
       
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       @dave I think a one party system prob better than democracy, but I think instead of requirements like a civics quiz I'd prob only let ppl who are married with kids vote, as they have a vested interest in the future of the country. Probably make it one vote per family unit as well to stop politics from dividing men and women. Maybe combine with IQ test or something.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSYa9kMF8rlfEzGVc by Boomerman@poa.st
       2022-10-11T13:52:37.250914Z
       
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       @dave @Chaos_Ecksdee Have you missed the last 10 years?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSYyUGPc4XAFLa9po by Chuckar@poa.st
       2022-10-11T12:33:43.611419Z
       
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       @dave Take the total amount you pay in taxes and subtract the amount you receive in govt entitlements. If the number is greater than or equal to zero, you get to vote. You are free to reject govt entitlements or pay more in taxes to get that number out of the negative.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSZM5Y39kvoXi5OwS by ercadio@qoto.org
       2022-10-10T19:56:57Z
       
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       @dave people should have to pay $100 to vote everytime
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSZQCfecHWxn8bZhI by volume@fr13nd5.com
       2022-10-11T14:02:01.144277Z
       
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       @ercadio @dave 🤔People should make sure to pay too, instead of faking the ass.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSZTQtkAzdamkjeQS by volume@fr13nd5.com
       2022-10-11T14:02:36.283364Z
       
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       @ercadio @dave 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSz77K8rzNgVx6Q88 by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-11T18:49:51.861565Z
       
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       Final results: a pretty good mix
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSzBCtg5h8OxQfs92 by penguin@eveningzoo.club
       2022-10-11T18:50:38.759061Z
       
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       my comment was best 😏
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSzHwWPN8tCCJ0BuK by lina@eientei.org
       2022-10-11T18:51:51.574541Z
       
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       @dave trash poll, no joke option with nigger in it
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSzYLzISTHToPL7dA by bajax@bajax.us
       2022-10-11T18:54:49.756891Z
       
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       @polarisera @dave Bad idea.  It'll give them no reason to care about the future
       
 (DIR) Post #AOSzxYZon0bk60RLPs by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-10-11T18:59:19.677618Z
       
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       @dave Spinsters
       
 (DIR) Post #AOT021wlXAYILOJ58q by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-11T19:00:08.724329Z
       
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       Try hitting refresh, still the same?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOT0HztSw49YbqNQRc by Mek101@mstdn.io
       2022-10-11T19:03:03Z
       
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       @Humpleupagus @dave Anarchists be like
       
 (DIR) Post #AOT1iApF0uAZztRkMy by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-10-11T19:18:59.912804Z
       
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       @dave Yes, it becomes the same. Just showing you the spin-take.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOV8z3p3OM2tCDHJ8y by ThighHighSock@rdrama.cc
       2022-10-12T19:49:55.667229Z
       
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       @ned @dave I like that you're thinking out of the box, but...BEST case scenario, our government gets replaced every few years (do you know how many people unironically wanted to restructure the government after Roe)Worst (and most likely) case scenario, one of the governments completely destroys the democratic system and we end up with a dictatorship."Broad disorganized majority." people do vote dictators into power. Hitler's Nazi party had a good chunk of the Reichstag before taking over. Remember the declaration of independence.> Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.It's always better for everyone involved to work within the system, rather than create a huge mess.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVB9Qpot3nDN6i3TE by ThighHighSock@rdrama.cc
       2022-10-12T20:14:04.685152Z
       
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       @Chaos_Ecksdee @dave I'm not a fan of the racial stuff, but other than that, I think these are actually really great ideas. The DNA tests would be impracticable to administer.However, how do we keep it this way? I strongly believe that allowing women and childless people to vote has been one of the worst mistakes that the west has made. However, history has shown that voting inevitably expands.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVJzfU8SiIxV4zCIy by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-12T21:53:17Z
       
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       @ThighHighSock @dave@gleasonator.com @ned @Dave >Worst (and most likely) case scenario, one of the governments completely destroys the democratic system and we end up with a dictatorship.LOL that's exactly the point. Dictatorship with a mechanism for removal. I know you've been propagandised to think dictator=bad/democracy=good. But that is not true. Democracy is a race to the bottom as far as selecting a leader, and functionally the power structure is the same regardless.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQ3dq57iFnHKWrke by ThighHighSock@rdrama.cc
       2022-10-12T23:01:14.477991Z
       
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       @ned @dave @Dave > Dictatorship with a mechanism for removal.You're stupid if you think that whatever dictatorship is actually gonna honor this "mechanism for removal."
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVQRExRHcQb3oDtpo by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-12T23:05:29Z
       
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       @ThighHighSock @dave@gleasonator.com @Dave If you want to overthrow the government the official way it requires 50% of the population. If you want to do it the unofficial way, it only requires a couple of hundred dedicated men. Just ask Che Guevara. If one method doesn't work, the other will.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVR4S1Oe73Es3lt0i by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-12T23:12:35Z
       
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       @ThighHighSock @dave@gleasonator.com @Dave People approve of things that are perceived as 'legitimate'. That's why the Biden administration spent so much effort to pushing the "free and fair elections" narrative, and "no evidence of widespread election fraud". Because appearance of legitimacy matters in order to quickly solidify power.My proposal accepts the natural method for circulation of elites. But also provides a cultural expectation for legitimacy. Which all dictators crave more than anything else.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOVT3BwZ8auqco2U0u by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-12T23:34:45Z
       
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       @ThighHighSock @dave@gleasonator.com @Dave The transition from one dictatorship to another will be smoother than you think. Because there is only 1 kind of political power, future power. The institutions, military, etc. will fall in line with whoever is perceived to be in power in the future. Achieving that appearance of legitimacy to rule is the biggest advantage in solidifying future power. Once the winds change, they will continue to blow until it is complete.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOXvYC5HqncF4SbqxE by Chaos_Ecksdee@poa.st
       2022-10-14T00:31:37.392359Z
       
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       @ThighHighSock @dave By making the atrocities of the early twenty-first century a major part of people's high-school level curriculum. Every class that's currently dedicated to holocaust or holocaust related stuff? Replace all those courses with material on stuff like drag queen story hour, grade school curriculi about anal sex, the DOJ weaponizing itself against parents unhappy with what goes down in public schools, all the stories of women in prisons getting impregnated by tranny rapists, the systemic protection of rape gangs in countries like France, Britain and Sweden at the hands of law enforcement, the complete destruction of families prior to their creation through draconically one-sided divorce laws, and the general stripping of White youth of perspectives and career opportunities by hr departments and diverse hiring policies. Make sure that all the horrendous things of today remain on the minds of people for centuries, preferably millennia, so they remember very viscerally what lies at the end of softening up voting requirements. Make sure that whenever someone even suggests going back to giving women and minorities voting rights, that there is also someone who asks them "You remember the early 21st century stuff? You remember when they forced us to send our children to public schools where they're put at the mercy of gay child molesters and tell our children to cut their dicks off, and if we take issue, they send CPS to take our children away from us? You remember they basically turned women into a loose cannon with absolute power, where everyone who wasn't a virgin could lose their career overnight because some woman they had sex with 30 years prior decided to metoo them? You seriously want to go back to those days? No you fucking don't. So no, we're not softening up the fucking voting requirements.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfYed1j6BoOV9Ym6i by Dave@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T20:24:40Z
       
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       @ned @dave@gleasonator.com You're also somehow tagging me "Dave" on NAS. That's ok, I just wanted to make sure in case the Dave you're trying to reach didn't see it for some reason.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfYrI5QGYCZJwKJM0 by dave@gleasonator.com
       2022-10-17T20:26:55.363270Z
       
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       That’s weird, because I got the notification too
       
 (DIR) Post #AOflclvYKq1wvl7Ks4 by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T22:50:00Z
       
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       @dave@gleasonator.com @Dave Hey @eriner, Any idea why tagging someone on a different instance would also tag the same user name on NAS?
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfm2boAa20N4lz3mC by eriner@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T22:54:40Z
       
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       @ned I'm not sure why that happened. Protocol supports tagging actors without naming but Mastodon itself doesn't (AFAIK). I'm not sure what to attribute it to other than a bug. My suggestion would be to clear your caches'n'shit and let me know if it happens again.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfmLsR6yubo9JO1FA by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T22:58:08Z
       
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       @eriner Or I could do what most people do with opensource stuff and just live the bug. It seems like most of the effort on development has moved over to Pleroma anyways.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfp6gHiB7TxyqR2qu by josh@social.rebased.network
       2022-10-17T23:22:16.949222Z
       
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       https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/rebasedThis is what you really want
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfp6ghEeDtnG0NQdU by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T23:29:01Z
       
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       @josh @eriner I think it will take quite some selling to convince him to move over an active 10,000 user server.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfrHZMqR7jjcY9jQe by josh@social.rebased.network
       2022-10-17T23:44:17.827034Z
       
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       Don't hate the player
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfrHZxMFMwZRnEtLE by ned@noagendasocial.com
       2022-10-17T23:53:23Z
       
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       @josh What's the maintenance like? I'm thinking of hosting my own instance. But don't have the chops to fix issues. I can follow installation instructions, and basic linux stuff. But cannot be bothered if it's going to be high effort.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOfwbWy3ZHh5jxto4e by josh@social.rebased.network
       2022-10-18T00:40:49.933800Z
       
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       @alex is presently adding documentation but basically you can run it in docker or as an otp release (think untar then run) or in "cheap prod mode" for if you want to muck with it directly in production trivially